Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #16 Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 03:01:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #16 1. Re: Setting up Vector works drawings by "Kacey Fisher" 2. Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart) by Bruce Purdy 3. Position Announcement: by Michael Powers 4. Digest "back issues" available by Noah Price 5. Re: email tracking was: Jamming inside Theatres by "Brian Busch" 6. Re: email tracking was: Jamming inside Theatres by Herrick 7. Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart) by "Delbert Hall" 8. Circus performer dies in fall by "Delbert Hall" 9. Re: Circus performer dies in fall - oops by "Delbert Hall" 10. Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart) by Richard Niederberg 11. Re: Setting up Vector works drawings by Brian Aldous 12. Re: Setting up Vector works drawings by "C. Andrew Dunning" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kacey Fisher" Subject: Re: Setting up Vector works drawings Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 10:29:15 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: C. Andrew Dunning wrote: > > First thing, change your thinking slightly. For the sake of learning: > VW Classes = AC Layers > VW Classes = separate sheets of paper w. (potentially) different scales. > This may be a bit over-simplified, but this mindset has helped me to make > the transition. > I think you may have meant VW LAYERS = separate sheets of paper w. (potentially) different scales?? Now, I have no experience with VW 11 because I was a bad beta tester-having a 1 year old doesn't leave you a lot of time to beta test! Anyhow, I usually set up my drawings like this: Ground Plan/Space Layer- basically the walls and the stage, etc. (This is handy if you are working in the same space over and over because you can delete out other layers and create a template with just the theatre) Scenic Ground Plan-whatever the set is for the show (this may turn into multiple layers for a show with multiple settings for each act.) Lighting Plot Layer-this includes all my instrumentation and lighting positions. I used to put positions in the Ground Plan/Space Layer, but with the lighting position object in Spotlight, that didn't work out so well. Those are the basic layers I work with. Then in terms of classes: On the Ground Plan/Space Layer I'll work within the Soft Goods Class so I can turn curtains on and off Scenic Ground Plan could have any number of classes from windows, doors, to platforms, etc. Then I set up lighting classes that might come in handy-sometimes I will put all of one system of light in its own class. This can become tedious, so I don't do it unless it's an especially large or complicated plot and I need to turn a class off to see/not see stuff. I also got into this habit when Spotlight first came out and was running very slowly. It was handy to turn stuff on and off to speed up screen re-draw time. So, the way I think of it, Layers are your general categories and classes are more specific. I have no experience with AutoCAD, so I'm sorry I can't relate it to paper space etc. But, I hope that gives you a basic idea of one way to work with layers and classes. ~Kacey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:44:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart) From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Bruce - I think Wal-Mart does have a social conscience. I know for a > fact that my Wal-Mart gives lots of money to local schools and > organizations, as well as college scholarships to local students. Delbert, You make a good point, and I concede that Wal-Mart does put a bit back into the community. How much comes from social conscience though, and how much is PR to offset "Anti-Wal-Mart" feelings in the community is debatable. As I responded to another post, the Big Boxes seem to whittle away over time at their initial promises. I'd be curious as to how long after a new Wal-Mart opens their grants and scholarships start to diminish and then fade away. I may be wrong - and I hope that I am. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 14:27:21 -0400 From: Michael Powers Subject: Position Announcement: Message-id: <40B0ED09.1070009 [at] theater.umass.edu> Position Announcement: Due to illness, the Property Master position at The Pioneer Valley Summer Theatre has become available. The Pioneer Valley Summer Theatre (PVST) is a small equity, one week stock company located in historic Easthampton, Massachusetts. For more information about the theatre go to: http://www.summertheatre.net/ Starting date is June 16th through August 25. Salary is negotiable and Commensurate to experience but does include full room and board. Applicants must have their own transportation for shopping, mileage is reimbursed. Interested applicants, asap, please contact: Susan Daniels, Artistic Director SGDaniels [at] aol.com Please don't contact me, Contact Susan Daniels, artistic Director., I'm just designing a couple of the shows there, I don't hire or fire. -- Michael Michael Powers, Technical Director U Mass-Amherst, Dept. of Theatre 112 Fine Arts Center West 151 Presidents Drive Ofc 2 Amherst, MA 01003-9331 Phone: 413-545-6821 Fax: 413-577-0025 mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu mptecdir [at] aol.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <70DC37A5-ACFD-11D8-8924-000A958ABBF8 [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Digest "back issues" available Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 14:09:12 -0700 Some of you have wanted to get issues of the digest from the server, which the new server doesn't support. To allow you to get past issues, I've put them up on the web site for download: Just like them message archives, all email addresses are obscured to avoid the spam-bots! If you got the first couple digests in "MIME" format and were unable to read them, you can download them from the web site. I got rid of the extra headers in the posted versions. Thanks, Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | Web issues: stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | | Web site administrator | Personal: noah [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ From: "Brian Busch" Subject: Re: email tracking was: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:06:53 -0400 Message-ID: <001401c44123$05768250$0200a8c0 [at] trinity> In-Reply-To: While blocking tracking mechanisms at the firewall or router level is probably your best bet, you have now blocked all access to their website and having messages of your own tracked as well. For a low-tech solution or for those of us who do not have firewalls or routers, simply download your email and disconnect your internet connection. This is similar to how the original Juno email used to work- your connection was only live long enough to download your mail and then you could peruse at your leisure. As long as you've opened and closed the email before the internet connection is restored, you're in good shape. Furthermore, their claim that the tracking is undetectable is false as it only takes one quick look at the message headers to see if rampellsoft.com is present to know if you're being watched. Armed with that knowledge it is easy to create a filter that funnels all tracked email to a special folder for later inspection. Didtheyreadit.com's product is frighteningly fast though, check it out. Use the five free messages to test the security method of your choice. Brian Busch ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:19:11 -0400 Subject: Re: email tracking was: Jamming inside Theatres From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Did they read it has been slightly debunked on slashdot.com On Sunday, May 23, 2004, at 20:06 America/New_York, Brian Busch wrote: > Didtheyreadit.com's product is > frighteningly fast though, check it out. Use the five free messages to > test the security method of your choice. > > Brian Busch > > > > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 22:25:11 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <000201c44136$581ea7e0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-Reply-To: Bruce, Let's talk a bout a few other "national" companies, that many of us frequent, which have stores in most cities: Sears, Granger, and Ace Hardware, to name just three. Because these companies purchase in large quantities, just as Wal-Mart does, they have the ability to sell for less than "mom and pop" stores. Do these big companies drive out some local stores? Sure they do, so why are they not being condemned the same way as Wal-Mart? From what I have seen, these companies give back far less to their communities than Wal-Mart. Shouldn't these companies be held to the same standard that you want from Wal-Mart? In my area Wal-Mart, Target, and a few car local dealership seem to be some of the major businesses that give grants and scholarships to high schools and their students. I am not saying the Wal-Mart is perfect, just that they are not as black as some people would like to paint them. -Delbert -----Original Message----- Delbert, You make a good point, and I concede that Wal-Mart does put a bit back into the community. How much comes from social conscience though, and how much is PR to offset "Anti-Wal-Mart" feelings in the community is debatable. As I responded to another post, the Big Boxes seem to whittle away over time at their initial promises. I'd be curious as to how long after a new Wal-Mart opens their grants and scholarships start to diminish and then fade away. I may be wrong - and I hope that I am. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Circus performer dies in fall Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 22:36:32 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <000301c44137$ecf0d770$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-Reply-To: A Ringling Bros. tissue performer fell to her death Saturday in St. Paul. Here is what CNN had on their web site: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Midwest/05/23/circus.accident/index.html For those of you who are not familiar with circus acts, all tissue performers that I know supply their own apparatus, and most rig it themselves. Hall Associates, Inc. does this type of rigging for some performers (in fact we rigged a tissue act on May 1 in Atlanta), so we are very interested in finding out what when wrong on Saturday. From what was in the CNN report, it seems that it may have been an problem, but the article does not give enough details to really say for certain. Keith may be able to learn more and fill us in. -Delbert ------------------------------ From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Circus performer dies in fall - oops Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 22:55:13 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <000b01c4413a$898415a0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-Reply-To: I have added the missing word "equipment" in the corrected sentence below. From what was in the CNN report, it seems that it may have been an EQUIPMENT problem, but the article does not give enough details to really say for certain. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:20:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart) Message-ID: <20040523.202013.3748.1.ladesigners [at] juno.com> From: Richard Niederberg Also made available are abandoned large commercial spaces for minimal rent or sales price in neighborhoods. These can be transformed into stage theatres. Unfortunately, the loss of too many businesses in an area also diminishes the amount of patrons to buy tickets at these new theatres. /s/ Richard > Big Boxes seem to whittle away over time > Bruce ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Brian Aldous Subject: Re: Setting up Vector works drawings Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:07:36 -0400 > Setting up Vector works drawings Everyone has their preferred method - one of the nice things about Vectorworks is that there are usually several different ways to do something. I tend to use many levels on a plot (one for each floor of theatre architecture, then scenery, moving linesets, fixed positions, rep plot, specials, circuit & twofer layout, elevations, scenic details - whatever. My line to students is the usual : "Classes are kinds of things, layers are containers for putting things into."). I then make use of the "sheet" saving function to move back and forth easily between different combinations of active layers & classes. Each sheet is like a different plate. Your printer will render whatever "saved sheet" you have open when you send the document to print. BA ------------------------------ From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: Re: Setting up Vector works drawings Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 04:10:47 -0500 Organization: Landru Design In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Kacey - >I think you may have meant VW LAYERS = separate sheets of paper w. >(potentially) different scales?? You are correct. Too bad Outlook doesn't have a "dummy" check along w. its spell-check. I've seen a bunch of VW user work the way that you do - major divisions on layers and more specific in classes. I've chosen not to work that way because it makes 3D work more difficult and 99.9% of my work is either hybrid or 3D. Regards - C. Andrew Dunning Landru Design - Nashville, TN - cad [at] landrudesign.com www.landrudesign.com ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #16 ****************************