Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #57 Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 03:00:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #57 1. Ghost lights by BKHAIN [at] aol.com 2. Re: Portable Staging/Load bearing welds by usctd [at] columbia.sc 3. Re: Ghost lights by Rigger 4. Re: Ghost lights by "Brian Busch" 5. 4th of July by b Ricie 6. Re: MissWisc by "Paul H. Sullivan" 7. Re: Wireless mic suggestions by Bruce Purdy 8. Re: Ghost lights by Charlie Richmond 9. Re: Ghost lights by Stephen Litterst 10. Need multi-cable by usctd [at] columbia.sc 11. Re: Need multi-cable by Stephen Litterst 12. Re: Ghost lights by Fred Fisher 13. Re: Ghost lights by Jerry Durand 14. Re: ETC S4 vs. Altman Shakespeare vs. Strand SL vs. Selecons by Bob Frame 15. Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) by "Michael Finney" 16. Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) by Stephen Litterst 17. einstein question by Judy 18. Re: einstein question by James Feinberg 19. Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) by Jerry Durand 20. Assistive listening devices by "Robert Steiner" 21. New job... by JAXBEAR31 [at] aol.com 22. Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) by Wood Chip-P26398 23. Job Opening by "Jon Lagerquist" 24. Re: Production triangle by James Ream 25. Re: Wireless wigborne mic suggestions by CB 26. Is it summer? by CB 27. Re: Is it summer? by IAEG [at] aol.com 28. Re: Wireless wigborne mic suggestions by Rigger 29. Re: Is it summer? by Rigger 30. Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) by CB 31. Vocal effects by "Bradley McDevitt" 32. Re: Is it summer? by MissWisc [at] aol.com 33. Re: Ghost lights by Kyle Dugger 34. Re: Vocal effects by Patrick McCreary 35. Re: Vocal effects by Pat Kight 36. Re: Vocal effects by Charlie Richmond 37. Re: portable staging by Stuart Wheaton 38. Re: wireless mics by Steven Hood *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BKHAIN [at] aol.com Message-ID: <6d.2d3a7a69.2e140f74 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:43:32 EDT Subject: Ghost lights Hi All, Simple question -- maybe; What are people using for ghost lights these days? I replace the standard incandescent 60 Watt with a compact fluorescent, but it only lasted a couple months. Anyone discovered a difference in compact fluorescent manufacturers? What else are any of you using? Thanks- Benjamin Hain Jon Hassler Theatre Plainview Minnesota Technical Director / Lighting Designer ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3668.129.252.241.105.1088605935.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Portable Staging/Load bearing welds From: usctd [at] columbia.sc Thank you, Michael. That answered it perfectly. -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > usctd [at] columbia.sc writes: > >>>Mr Powers wrote: "2. Make sure no weld is load bearing in any >>>direction. " >>>How is this possible in a decking application? Curious. > > Eric, > > MR Powers, ???? Did my dad make a post???? > > It is possible by simply designing so that all welds are at a joint > that is in compression or supported by other elements along the > lines of stress and that all joints in tension or latteral stress > are bolt, rivet or other type of mechanical fastener. > > Example, a leg, welded to the under side of a frame is in > compression and the load is not bearing on the weld. A leg bolted > or welded to the inside the frame places the load on the bolt or > weld to support the weight. If a platform frame is constructed with > welded corners, the lid or deck acts as a giant gusset (especcially > in the case of stress skin units) so the welds are reinforced in re: > lateral forces on the welds. > > Hope that answers you question. > > Michael > > Michael Powers, Technical Director > UMass Theatre Department > 112 FAC West > 151 Presidents Drive, Ofc.2 > Amherst, Ma. 01003-9331 > > 413-545-6821 voice > 413-577-0025 fax > > mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu > ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:47:32 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Ghost lights At 8:43 AM -0400 6/30/04, BKHAIN [at] aol.com wrote: >What are people using for ghost lights these days? We have one of those fluorescent lamps that looks like a corkscrew - I can't remember the manufacturer - in both the old Auditorium and in the Wharton's Great Hall. The Aud light has lasted for a couple of years so far, the Great Hall light is only four months old, so I can't say how long it'll yet live. The Great Hall used to have a big-ol' scoop light in the middle of the second catwalk for years... We tried replacing it with a S4 PAR loaded with a 575XL lamp, but cost too much to be wasting on ghosts. Ergo the glowing corkscrew. In the small stage (thrust w/lighting catwalks everywhere) we still have a big-ol' scoop light bolted to the "house ring" catwalk & controlled from a breaker panel upstage. This works great for the space, since the house rig is only summat like a 50' throw to the stage. -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ From: "Brian Busch" Subject: Re: Ghost lights Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:52:50 -0400 Message-ID: <001401c45ea9$8b168790$0300a8c0 [at] trinity> In-Reply-To: Benjamin- In performance spaces that are used 90% of the time for choral or musical recitals and concerts (where there are always lights up in a recital plot) patching two instruments at about 50% to go on with the 'goodbye' cue in Unison works very well. Both instruments are located over the house in roughly the same position, one aimed at the stage, the other illuminating a large portion of the seating. The system works well since the ghost lights always go on when the rest of the lighting in the theatre is turned off. Brian Busch ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040630141903.49476.qmail [at] web50603.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 07:19:03 -0700 (PDT) From: b Ricie Subject: 4th of July In-Reply-To: Greetings all, My favorite time of year is here (time off that is). I again,am hosting an annual 4th of July party. The party times are July 1st to and tru July 7th. We will be at the beach by day and around a bon-fire in my backyard by night. The coolers are stocked and we will be grilling the entire time. There is plenty of room for tents and fun people. So, if you are near Cape Cod, or feel like making the trek, e-mail me directly for more information. If not, then I wish all a happy and SAFE Independence Day ===== Brian Rice b_ricie [at] yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20040630101618.0266fd30 [at] pop.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:17:17 -0400 From: "Paul H. Sullivan" Subject: Re: MissWisc Attention all: New flavors of the Morphine and Korgo viruses have started infecting servers and PC's. It is possible that a server you are using has been infected. Everyone needs to be very aware of these they are the type that virtually shut down all mail servers a year or so ago. There is information on the viruses and solutions at the following addresses: http://www.jcn.net/virus.htm http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-6132-0.html?forumID=32&threadID=24643&messageID=272976 Happy hunting; Paul Sullivan If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:23:36 -0400 Subject: Re: Wireless mic suggestions From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I have seen quite a bit of advice on the list re: Wireless mikes. One I've not seen mentioned has me curious. A couple of shows have come through with Countryman E-6 Ear piece microphones. They sound great to my untrained ear, and appear to be practically invisible (At least beyond the front row or two) They also seem easier to put on & take off. I know they aren't "wigborne" which is the current thread, but I don't recall seeing them mentioned in the past either. I'm curious what experience / opinions others have with these! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:17:40 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Ghost lights In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Rigger wrote: > Great Hall. The Aud light has lasted for a couple of years so far, the Great I have had many years of experience with CF bulbs and have found that there is no reason for any CF bulb not to last its full rated life which is usually a minimum of 8000 hours. Running them continuously is slightly better than switching them on and off but not the huge factor it is with incandescents. I have returned many CF bulbs that lasted less than a year to the dealer for a warranty replacement and that's what you should do. As far as build quality and life, I've found that just about every manufacturer makes good CF bulbs and have been buying the IKEA ones in both North America and Europe as the most cost effective types for a long time now. IKEA also tend to have a wide variety of base and bulb styles and wattages so it's a pretty good one stop shop.... They are made in China, though so if you are averse to third world products don't bother going there... ;-) I suspect they are paying any patent royalties necessary, however... Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:21:05 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Ghost lights Message-id: <40E2DA61.59D87B15 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: I've had mixed success with the CFLs in our Ghost Lights. But our problem is that the CFLs get stolen out of the ghost light with a greater frequency than the 60w incandescants of the past. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3745.129.252.241.105.1088613908.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:45:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Need multi-cable From: usctd [at] columbia.sc Hi all, Wondering if anyone has any idea where I can find (new, used, surplus, cheap) 85' of 12 or 10 guage rubber jacketed multi cable. I need a minimum of 17 conductors. Thanks -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:02:18 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Need multi-cable Message-id: <40E2E40A.4D02CD98 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: usctd [at] columbia.sc wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > Wondering if anyone has any idea where I can find (new, used, surplus, > cheap) 85' of 12 or 10 guage rubber jacketed multi cable. I need a > minimum of 17 conductors. New: www.productionadvantageonline.com Used: http://www.prg.com/equipment/lighting/used/ www.lightbroker.com -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:16:40 -0500 From: Fred Fisher Subject: Re: Ghost lights In-reply-to: Message-id: <5.2.1.1.2.20040630111442.022ebd68 [at] wiscmail.wisc.edu> > >What are people using for ghost lights these days? I replace the standard >incandescent 60 Watt with a compact fluorescent, but it only lasted a couple >months. Anyone discovered a difference in compact fluorescent manufacturers? >What else are any of you using? >Thanks- >Benjamin Hain I use the cheapos from Feig Elec. that are in lots of home improvement stores and they work well, for the most part. After rebates, they cost like a dollar apiece and I've had them in my ghost lights for a couple of years. Fred Fisher ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.0.20040630092910.026c58f0 [at] localhost> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:29:55 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Ghost lights In-Reply-To: References: At 05:43 AM 6/30/2004, you wrote: >What are people using for ghost lights these days? I replace the standard >incandescent 60 Watt with a compact fluorescent, but it only lasted a couple >months. Anyone discovered a difference in compact fluorescent manufacturers? >What else are any of you using? CF lights work well if you keep them cool. I've had to add cooling holes to some fixtures, they REALLY don't like confined spaces. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2FDDC3C2F5B5F4499C096779EF5493B99C2F38 [at] EXCHANGE_NT.cayuga-cc.edu> From: Bob Frame Subject: Re: ETC S4 vs. Altman Shakespeare vs. Strand SL vs. Selecons Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:42:42 -0400 In case we forget, the original request was very specific regarding the 10 deg. fixtures. Can't help you there but as the thread has morphed: Although not as worldly as many on the list, just thought I would chime in. I've worked in Shakespeare houses- Well it's better than the Alt360 but not by much. I own 3 in my space and all the critiques (especially lamp failure) are true. For various reasons as I started to replace my existing inventory of 360's and 360Q's I choose the Strand SL and I have not regretted it. Even purchased two zooms. I have had some experience with S-4's and yes it is a damned good fixture (although the TV station here has a couple of the Juniors and I'm certainly under whelmed), but I don't see it as being head and shoulders above the SL- fairly comparable. Have not used the Selecon, but then again at $400+ per unit I don't see that changing anytime soon. My inventory doesn't get a lot of abuse (that's abuse, not use) but I can't complain about the SL's sturdiness. The S-4 revolutionized the ERS so by nature it is the one most requested, but I would have no qualms recommending the SL. Yes there is something to be said for going for a full S-4 family in your inventory (ERS, Parnel, PAR) and all using the same lamp, but is it really that difficult to grab the proper lamp for a fixture. FWIW, my $.02, But then again I think that SoftPlot by Crescit lighting is an excellent lighting design program, that does plotting and ALL paperwork at half to 2/3's the price of the "big boys" so what do I know!! Bob Robert M. Frame, Coordinator of Theatre Operations Cayuga Community College 197 Franklin St. Auburn, NY 13021-3099 (Voice): 315-255-1743 ext. 2340 (Fax): 315-255-2117 (E-mail): framer [at] cayuga-cc.edu Some days you're the bug, some days the windshield ------------Original message---------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:46:13 -0400 From: Danielle Maul Subject: Re: ETC S4 vs. Altman Shakespeare vs. Strand SL vs. Selecons Hi guys- As a freelancer in the business for many years in=20 NYC, I've noticed a few things. The Shakespeare doesn't accept abuse over time as=20 well as a Source-4. As Steve said; ETC quality=20 control is far superior to Altman. Weirdly enough=20 the Source-4 10=B0's pool seems slightly smaller,=20 though I'm not sure of the truth of that. I=20 wouldn't even consider the Strand units; they're=20 6 pegs down from Altman w/ all the same reasons &=20 more. If I had unlimited funds, I'd go with the=20 Selecon every time. (Even though their ass-end=20 make them hard to fit in some coves/slots,=20 depending.) But the cost makes them prohibitive.=20 My vote, of the three, for price and lasting=20 ability would be the Source-4. Enjoy your new toys, whatever they are, when you get them. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:25:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Michael Finney" On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 CB wrote: <> =20 <> <> Nicely said! In this case, the client isn't actually smoking crack, but they suffer from the same "budget perception" issues that I see a lot. And it's not just clients from outside of our industry - it's people with experience in only one portion of our business. A couple of "fer instances": I'm working with a major developer right now on a permanent exhibit/theatre set-up. The developer knows what it costs to build a retail store or an office building, and can quote those "per square foot" costs off the top of his head (so can I anymore...scary!). But those costs really don't apply to what we're doing now...I'm coming in at least double the construction costs he'd guessed. *That* was a big surprise to him - especially when I was able to pull up similar project budgets from past construction to back the estimates up. Now we're adjusting budgets and looking at options (and he's great about that). Like you said, part of our job is education. The other "fer instance" is actually related to our business and "limited experience"...I've got a new guy working as a ATD in my office. He comes out of the theatre world, and I'm very, very happy to have drug him in. But what I'm noticing is that he's also suffering a bit of that "budget perception" issue. I think he's pretty typical of what happens to a lot of us when we make the transition from theatre into other areas of the entertainment industry. We get so used to "making do" in the theatre, and so used to building things that have a limited life span (even touring sets only get used a couple of times a day over a limited life span) that we sometimes get surprised at what it costs to build something that has to last for 10 years under daily use/abuse. Again, just a little education...and a good reason why everybody who wants to work at the management level (and that includes TD's and designers) has to learn budgeting and costs from industries besides theatre.....darn it..... When I was in college, I *swore* I wouldn't have to learn about the "business" side....guess I was wrong! Back to writing a budget for that "cutting edge" project....hope I have enough zeros loaded onto the computer!=20 =09 Michael Finney Thinkwell Design & Production mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com =20 http://www.thinkwelldesign.com =20 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:31:14 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) Message-id: <40E2F8E2.704CDDD2 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Michael Finney wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- ...and a good reason why everybody who wants to > work at the management level (and that includes TD's and designers) has > to learn budgeting and costs from industries besides theatre.....darn > it..... Suggestions on how to do that, without quitting my day job? > Back to writing a budget for that "cutting edge" project....hope I have > enough zeros loaded onto the computer! Well, I'm sure we could all contribute some from our budgets. Sounds like a lot of us have all our zeros in the wrong place! Steve L -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40E3073C.2030801 [at] post.tau.ac.il> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:32:28 +0200 From: Judy Subject: einstein question Hi all, Does anybody know anything about any special projects in theater, dance or other arts that are being done in honor of the "Einstein year"? I'd appreciate any info, I have to write something about it. Thanks Judy ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200406301748.i5UHm1Md013597 [at] gryphon.auspice.net> Subject: Re: einstein question Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:48:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Judy" at Jun 30, 2004 08:32:28 PM From: James Feinberg Here at the University of San Diego, we did an adaptation of Alan Lightman's book, Einstein's Dreams, last October. I'd be happy to tell you all about it if you're interested. --James Feinberg Production Manager, Theatre Arts Program University of San Diego > > Hi all, > > Does anybody know anything about any special projects in theater, dance > or other arts that are being done in honor of the "Einstein year"? I'd > appreciate any info, I have to write something about it. > Thanks > Judy > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.0.20040630104733.026c8088 [at] localhost> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:50:36 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) In-Reply-To: References: At 10:25 AM 6/30/2004, you wrote: >Back to writing a budget for that "cutting edge" project....hope I have >enough zeros loaded onto the computer! I recently replaced my keyboard and the new one has a slower scan speed. When I type things like ten thousand it often comes out as "1000". I've found I have to be REALLY careful when typing up bids and such. My wife suggests I type slower. :) So, I guess my computer doesn't have enough zeros in it (but it has 100 times as much DRAM as our first computer had hard disk!). ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:55:10 -0700 From: "Robert Steiner" Subject: Assistive listening devices I'm interested in hearing about your experiences with assistive listening devices for the hearing impaired. We currently have an FM system in our main theatre and we want to expand it as well as possibly get another system for our music recital hall. What are the pluses and minuses for FM versus IR? One thing that I don't like about what we currently have (or at least the way we are using it) is the background ambient room noise that is amplified in the system. I have a shotgun mic in the auditorium ceiling that is pointed at the stage. It feeds into the mixer in the sound booth which is then transmitted to the individuals. I would like to put a mic in closer to reduce the room noise but I can't figure out a better place to put it short of on the floor at the front of the stage and that's not practical to do for all of the different types of events that we do especially since the orchestra pit lift moves and is sometimes used as part of the stage and sometimes part of the house. I could put them on the sides attached to the back of the proscenium - don't know how well that would work. Any thoughts? Thanks, Bob Steiner Santa Clara University Mail has been scanned for viruses and SPAM by GWGuardian at SCU (MGW2). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:02:52 -0400 From: JAXBEAR31 [at] aol.com Subject: New job... Message-ID: <765B659C.63CBD556.021F819D [at] aol.com> Hello everyone, I would like to share a little story with you. Maybe there is a savior out there willing to pull me back from hell. For the past two months I have been working as a Tier 1 Tech for Directv. I thought...hey...let try a different field for a change of pace. Show business finally got me! I thought I needed a break from it all. I was wrong. I thought the training was going to be simple and easy. They crammed 15 weeks of training into three. Im glad that I caught on quickly. I scored a 93% on my certification test and what did I learn from all of this? I learned that you can teach an old dog new tricks (well, Im not that old..Im only 39)...more importantly...I need to get back in the business. Dressing showgirls beats handling 30-40 calls a day hands down. I guess this story is told more out of frustration than pity. If anyone has any comments..feel free to speak up. Eric S By the way...If you have a satellite tv question you need answered...email me offline at jaxbear34 [at] yahoo.com. Maybe I can help. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <6728517EECE7D511981B00D0B78290310CF97411 [at] az33exm27.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:51:48 -0700 The Turkish Lira is something like 1.3M per dollar. When I was there, it is hell to keep from giving the cabbie a 5000000 bill instead of a 500000 bill. They don't use commas either. Talk about problems with zeros. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Durand When I type things like ten thousand it often comes out as "1000". I've found I have to be REALLY careful when typing up bids and ------------------------------ From: "Jon Lagerquist" Cc: members [at] socalusitt.org Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:25:53 -0700 Subject: Job Opening Message-ID: <40E2B151.6130.5FAFEF0 [at] localhost> After five years at SCR my current Master Carpenter is moving on, so ... **************** MASTER CARPENTER - SCR is seeking a Master Carpenter with professional experience in theatrical carpentry, rigging, metal work and shop organization. Duties include set construction, installation, maintenance and strike, as well as other scenery-related responsibilities. Each season offers a minimum of 14 classical and new plays in a two-theatre complex, as well as children's and touring productions. Contract runs August through June. Salary is competitive and includes excellent health benefits. SCR values diversity in the work place and is an Equal Opportunity Employer. Send a letter and resume to Tom Aberger, Production Manager, South Coast Repertory, P.O. Box 2197, Costa Mesa, CA 92628-2197, or fax to 714-545-0391. No phone calls please. ************************ Jon Lagerquist ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40E314CC.9070609 [at] uindy.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:30:20 -0500 From: James Ream Subject: Re: Production triangle References: In-Reply-To: Forgive if this has already been expressed and I missed it. Appreciated all the discussion on this production triangle issue. The way I learned it was in the form of a 3rows x 3 columns grid. Actually Stan Abbott from Purdue taught me this as "Friedlander's Law." Column headers are A. Minimize/Maximize B. Constraint C. Accept Row are 1. Costs 2. Schedule 3. Quality Place 3 X'.s to mark your choice. The limitation is that you cannot have two marks in the same column. ie one from each column.. You can for example choose to Minimize costs, constrain/adjust the schedule and accept the quality. Or you could maximize the quality, constrian the costs and accept the schedule, but obviously you cannot minimize the cost, minimize the schedule and maximize the quality. Jim Ream University of Indianapolis ream [at] uindy.edu ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040630140430.01822828 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:04:30 From: CB Subject: Re: Wireless wigborne mic suggestions >Even I, a lowly slug, can ring out an MKE-II This sounds like the same sort of self-depracation that I dish out when the lighting and carping gigs start coming around. "I don't know nuthin' 'bout no lightin' miz TD!" Yeah, right. Dave's an adequate skweek, at the very least. From hearing him talk, he knows more about it than a lot of guys that I've met at FOH. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040630140856.01822828 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:08:56 From: CB Subject: Is it summer? Is the list so short lately because: 1) Its summer, 2) Everyone with an IQ over eighty has finally decided to trim their replies, 3) Everyone took the 'No Non-Stagecraft Threads' thing seriously, or 4) All those threatening to leave because they couldn't see the relationship between politics and working stagecrafters actually left? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <143.2cdf8cdf.2e148d44 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:40:20 EDT Subject: Re: Is it summer? In a message dated 6/30/04 2:39:02 PM, psyd [at] cox.net writes: << All those threatening to leave because they couldn't see the relationship between politics and working stagecrafters actually left? >> most likely the subject for the next Michael Moore extravaganza........ very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:41:50 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Wireless wigborne mic suggestions At 2:04 PM -0400 6/30/04, CB wrote: >This sounds like the same sort of self-depracation that I dish out when the >lighting and carping gigs start coming around. It can't be; I can neither spell or pronounce self-depra... Self-depraca... Humility. -DV ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:43:18 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Is it summer? At 2:08 PM -0400 6/30/04, CB wrote: > 2) Everyone with an IQ over eighty has finally decided to trim their > replies, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH[*THUD!*] [*wiping tears of laughter*] Oy, Chris... You slay me. -DV ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040630142327.01822828 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:23:27 From: CB Subject: Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) >A classic post, Chris - and one of the prime reasons I read every one ;-) My pleasure, sir, and right back at you! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Subject: Vocal effects Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:08:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Bradley McDevitt" Hello all, wise & theatrical, For our next production, the script specifies one character with a tracheotomy, and subsequently, our actor wants to *sound* like he has a tracheotomy without actually receiving one. Any suggestions on how to create this distinctive vocal effect on stage w/o tying in to the house sound system? And w/o spending hours over the soldering table? We have ruled out the actor smoking 3 packs a day and gargling salt water. Thank you for any and all advice. Bradley Bradley McDevitt Assistant to the Production Manager INTIMAN Theater 206.269.1901 x.202 bradley [at] intiman.org ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <6d.2d4840a5.2e14b738 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:39:20 EDT Subject: Re: Is it summer? Cc: psyd [at] cox.net In a message dated 6/30/4 4:39:02 PM, psyd [at] cox.net wrote: <> Pick one: A) the summer stock people are running shows at night while building during the day, B) this week is high festival season in the USA due to July 4th and/or C) they watched you and me get skewered and aren't certain they want to join us on the spit. ;) Personally, I'm letting my brain return to normal after (finally!) meeting Doctor Doom and Jay Stone in person last weekend. Went to the ISETSA congress in Milwaukee and expanded my knowledge base even more. I shared tips to make makeup safer and learned still more about liability issues. Had the PLEASURE to meet Stirling Shelton from Cincinnati, several HS theatre teachers, and kudos to David Krajec from Cardinal Stritch College for hosting it. Next one will be in Denver. Tell every stressed-out HS theatre teacher you know about it. There is strength in numbers and having that knowledge pool to pull from can be very helpful for us all! Someone mentioned the entertainment workshop Doom and Jay are doing in Indiana. If you haven't seen these two in action, GO!!! The (most likely tax deductible) $$ is well worth it and the life you save may be your own. http://www.riskit.com is their web site. Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40E36628.20206 [at] earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:17:28 -0500 From: Kyle Dugger Subject: Re: Ghost lights References: > > > We have one of those fluorescent lamps that looks like a corkscrew - I > can't remember the manufacturer - in both the old Auditorium and in > the Wharton's Great Hall. The Aud light has lasted for a couple of > years so far, the Great Hall light is only four months old, so I can't > say how long it'll yet live. I use the same type flourescent and it is now going on its third year. kyle dugger ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.1.20040630213412.00b3d7b8 [at] incoming.verizon.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:37:02 -0400 From: Patrick McCreary Subject: Re: Vocal effects In-Reply-To: At 04:08 PM 6/30/2004 -0700, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Hello all, wise & theatrical, > >For our next production, the script specifies one character with a >tracheotomy, and subsequently, our actor wants to *sound* like he has a >tracheotomy without actually receiving one. > >Any suggestions on how to create this distinctive vocal effect on stage >w/o tying in to the house sound system? And w/o spending hours over the >soldering table? We have ruled out the actor smoking 3 packs a day and >gargling salt water. > >Thank you for any and all advice. > >Bradley Yeah - teach them to act. But seriuosly, folks, the tracheotomy speaking device is just a vibrator - it should work, with a little practice, on anyone with a throat, with or without vocal cords. You could probably get one from your local hospital or medical supply. Patrick G. Patrick McCreary Ass't. Professor - Technical Director Department of Theater and Dance Indiana University of Pennsylvania Indiana, PA 15701 (Office) 724-357-2644 (Home) 724-349-4309 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40E36D70.2090001 [at] peak.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:48:32 -0700 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Vocal effects References: In-Reply-To: Patrick McCreary wrote: > Yeah - teach them to act. Heh. That was my first thought, too - and I'm an actor, as well as a technician. > > But seriuosly, folks, the tracheotomy speaking device is just a vibrator > - it should work, with a little practice, on anyone with a throat, with > or without vocal cords. You could probably get one from your local > hospital or medical supply. Yup. -- Pat Kight Albany (Ore.) Civic Theater kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:54:03 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Vocal effects In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Pat Kight wrote: >> Yeah - teach them to act. > > Heh. That was my first thought, too - and I'm an actor, as well as a > technician. A vocal training coach might even be able to help a non-actor sound more like what is wanted ;-) Charlie ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40E375A3.7030408 [at] fuse.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:23:31 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: portable staging References: In-Reply-To: MPTecDir [at] aol.com wrote: > "neesa" writes: > > >> ........ in need of portable staging. Everything I've >> seen commercially seems abominably heavy. ...... >> anything that two people could move ......... aluminum >> tubing for the frames, but I'm not sure about decking >> material. > Is your shop set up to weld aluminum? Snip > If you decide to weld them up yourself out of > aluminum and your or your crew are not skilled and > practiced at ALUMINUM welding, either 1. hire a skilled > welder. 2. Make sure no weld is load bearing in any > direction. 3. re consider. > 5 things to keep in mind for sucessful Aluminum welding... 1. Proper preparation of the joint 2. Proper design of the joint 3. Really good preparation of the joint 4. Welding all the way around a joint whenever possible 5. Don't scrimp on joint preparation Absolutely agree that whenever possible, the joint should be designed so the weld is holding parts in proper alignment so that the weight or stress passes from one member directly to the next. Requiring the weld to carry the shear or torsional forces increases the likelyhood of weld failure and related serious problems. And don't forget that few of us have cobra guns, so please design the joints so that we can get in there with the bulk of a spoolgun! Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040701055954.37518.qmail [at] web20813.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:59:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Hood Subject: Re: wireless mics In-Reply-To: First off, take everything CB said and highlight it... I, for my money, would add the Countryman E3 earset mic to the list. Sound pretty good for the voices I've heard on them... You may have access to better voices than I do, so YMMV ;) Cheers, Steven PS: I have to admit I haven't used a mic in a year and a half... I turn 2x4s and plywood into usable splinters most days... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! 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