Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #79 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 03:00:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #79 1. New subject - Fog by "Peter Kiely" 2. Re: New subject - Fog by "Alf Sauve" 3. Was sheet good dimensions by "Steve" 4. Re: 4x8 by "Paul Guncheon" 5. DSF 1500W lamps by Shawn Palmer 6. Re: Speaking of storage by Bruce Purdy 7. Re: Speaking of storage by Steve Larson 8. Gobo Storage by "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" 9. Re: Gobo Storage by "Tony Deeming" 10. speaker slings by "Adam Berns" 11. Re: movies of stage sets by "Tony Deeming" 12. Re: speaker slings by John Bracewell 13. Re: speaker slings by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 14. tour posting by Sunil Rajan 15. Re: New subject - Fog by "Mike Rock" 16. Used Wenger Acoustic Shell for sale by "Muller, David" 17. Wenger 4' x 4' platform for sale (OT) by Dave Reynolds 18. Vietnamese student interested in design by Boyd Ostroff 19. Re: Gobo Storage by Dorian Kelly *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Kiely" Subject: New subject - Fog Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:11:16 +0200 Message-ID: <003301c46fd4$3ac51180$5c95fea9 [at] Peter1> In-Reply-To: Does anyone have the details of how to make and operate a low lying fog using dry ice? I read it once years ago but lost the method. Thanks Best Regards, Peter Kiely Peter.Kiely [at] telkomsa.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <187801c46fe1$bae326b0$0600a8c0 [at] alf> From: "Alf Sauve" References: Subject: Re: New subject - Fog Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:46:32 -0400 You mean something like this? http://sauve.org/images/bandfog.jpg I've seemed to have misplace the other pictures. A few seconds later over half the field was covered. This is outdoors, btw. Alf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Kiely" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:11 AM Subject: New subject - Fog > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Does anyone have the details of how to make and operate a low lying fog > using dry ice? I read it once years ago but lost the method. Thanks > > Best Regards, > > Peter Kiely > Peter.Kiely [at] telkomsa.net > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00e201c46fe6$f70752b0$396b7244 [at] D78YGH41> From: "Steve" Subject: Was sheet good dimensions Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:25:24 -0500 "Now, I am curious... Is 3/4" luaun expensive? (We can't get it here.)" 3/4" Luaun - $16.35 3/4" CDX - $23.95 These are current prices in south LA (Louisiana). I buy it at the local mom and pop hardware store. They still let customers smoke inside the store and in the lumber yard. I was in the place yesterday and it made me wish I wouldn't have quit. Nothin' like firin' up in the plumbing aisle. I have been using a ton of the luaun. It is finished on both sides and paints beautifully. Steve Schepker Southeastern Louisiana University ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003001c46ffb$b4fadb70$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: 4x8 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 04:53:52 -1000 I should have mentioned that the following applies to Hawaii (an actual state in America) although it may not be limited to here. We received plywood here that is stamped "Hawaii Use Only". I have been told that it is labeled thusly because of extra chemical treatment for "moisture or "termites". I suspect the truth of the matter is that the quality of the ply is so poor, it cannot be sold on the mainland. I honestly cannot remember whether I have used 3/4" cross laminated plywood but imagine so. I have used oak, birch, maple, walnut, and koa. I have used 3/4" lauan "meranti" or lumber core, or what I call block board. It consists of two outer veneers of lauan covering a substrate of blocks of a variety of woods, similar in thickness, varying in length. The substrate can have some serious voids... up to 1/2", and as the blocks are of different materials, they vary in density. Both these qualities make cutting and routing an adventure. The surface of lumber core lauan is smooth but the material is weak... its strength being only in the surface laminates. Laters, Paul "I punched him in the stomach three times," said Tom triumphantly. <> ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40FFDA43.8030101 [at] northnet.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:16:19 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: DSF 1500W lamps References: In-Reply-To: If anyone can use six frosted DSF 1500W lamps please let me know off list. I have no use for them. Shawn Palmer Pickard Civic Auditorium Neenah, WI USA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:43:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Speaking of storage From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Cosmo wrote: > > Although I'm sure that most subscribers to this list work in theatres > with all the storage and shop space they need right at hand, but > perhaps some of you have arrived at some interesting solutions... Storage space?? What's that?? When they first built this place back in 1894, and when they remodelled it in 1931, I guess they didn't take 2004 storage needs into consideration. "Shop space" is the stage. Interesting solutions to storing all those lighting accessories? Yeah, Lack of budget to buy them in the first place goes miles towards solving the storage issue! and Chris Warner wrote: > Don't forget about your cabline either. At the > college, we have 3 lengths, short(5' US here), long(10') and stupid > long(25'). In Most situations if we can't get there in 25' we have to > change the direction from which the circuit is coming in. Since all instruments require a home run to the dimmer rack, most of our cables are 50' or 100'. Nothing shorter than 25' in the place! - Goes to show that every place is different! (We stack the coiled spare cables behind the skirting under the apron.) Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:05:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Speaking of storage From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I have a welded steel rack with 15 pipes about a foot long that stick out on each side. The pipes are angled slightly upward. There is also a tray area on top of the bottom frame which attaches to the casters. Our space has no cables longer than 30'. Most are 5', 10', and 15'. Two-fers are bundled into groups of 10 which tie onto the end supports. Rolls anywhere I need it and hold dozens and dozens of cables. Steve on 7/22/04 11:43 AM, Bruce Purdy at bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Cosmo wrote: >> >> Although I'm sure that most subscribers to this list work in theatres >> with all the storage and shop space they need right at hand, but >> perhaps some of you have arrived at some interesting solutions... > > Storage space?? What's that?? When they first built this place back in > 1894, and when they remodelled it in 1931, I guess they didn't take 2004 > storage needs into consideration. "Shop space" is the stage. > > Interesting solutions to storing all those lighting accessories? Yeah, > Lack of budget to buy them in the first place goes miles towards solving the > storage issue! > > and Chris Warner wrote: > >> Don't forget about your cabline either. At the >> college, we have 3 lengths, short(5' US here), long(10') and stupid >> long(25'). In Most situations if we can't get there in 25' we have to >> change the direction from which the circuit is coming in. > > Since all instruments require a home run to the dimmer rack, most of our > cables are 50' or 100'. Nothing shorter than 25' in the place! - Goes to > show that every place is different! (We stack the coiled spare cables behind > the skirting under the apron.) > > Bruce ------------------------------ Message-ID: <297C9E3B63B2D3119C8100508B5ED28F1601FE75 [at] exchange2.ubc.ca> From: "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" Subject: Gobo Storage Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:27:18 -0700 On a slightly smaller scale: I keep the gobos in the little plastic envelopes they get shipped in, I just group all of a like kind into one envelope. Each envelope has a paper square with a photocopy of the gobo on 1 side and the name, code #, and # of gobos in stock, and the date, on the other. These envelopes are kept in a file-card box (from a previous incarnation). They aren't organized in the box, I just don't have that many different styles. I do keep a binder with a page per gobo, including photocopy of gobo, number, code etc., that I can pull out while in my office (10' away from the gobo storage, but up a ladder), and there is a copy in the Tech Office so the bosses can show our stock to clients if need-be. Andrew Riter Chan Centre for the Performing Arts UBC Vancouver, BC ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00c301c4700c$06a71c30$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: Gobo Storage Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:50:42 +0100 I store our gobo's in a CD storage box. Still in the plastic envelopes (if they still exist!). Ynot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 5:27 PM Subject: Gobo Storage > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > On a slightly smaller scale: > > I keep the gobos in the little plastic envelopes they get shipped in, I just group all of a like kind into one envelope. Each envelope has a paper square with a photocopy of the gobo on 1 side and the name, code #, and # of gobos in stock, and the date, > on the other. These envelopes are kept in a file-card box (from a previous incarnation). They aren't organized in the box, I just don't have that many different styles. > > I do keep a binder with a page per gobo, including photocopy of gobo, number, code etc., that I can pull out while in my office (10' away from the gobo storage, but up a ladder), and there is a copy in the Tech Office so the bosses can show our stock to > clients if need-be. > > Andrew Riter > Chan Centre for the Performing Arts > UBC > Vancouver, BC > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:01:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200407221301.AA169607332 [at] adamb.com> From: "Adam Berns" Subject: speaker slings I want to get my speakers off the stage floor. Unfortunatly, the speakers don't have any points for cables, or eyebolts (and installing them, or making a "cage" for them is not an option. So, what I want to do is get a sling that I can "wrap" around the speakers, going through the handles. Something like a come-along that I can wrap around the speaker, sinch tight and then use for points. All I need is some resources for slings. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <023f01c47010$32dc1bd0$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: movies of stage sets Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:20:34 +0100 That'll be "Topsy Turvy" TD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert G. Anderson" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 6:06 PM Subject: Re: movies of stage sets > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I remember (though not in enough detail to come up with the actual movie > title) a movie biography of Gilbert and Sullivan which included lots of > shots of period sets for their operettas...'Zat count? > > Bob Anderson > Starkville Community Theatre > > > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20040722131821.056b6008 [at] pop.lightlink.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:20:40 -0400 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: speaker slings In-Reply-To: >I want to get my speakers off the stage floor. Unfortunatly, the speakers >don't have any points for cables, or eyebolts (and installing them, or >making a "cage" for them is not an option. So, what I want to do is get a >sling that I can "wrap" around the speakers, going through the >handles. Something like a come-along that I can wrap around the speaker, >sinch tight and then use for points. All I need is some resources for slings. There may be quibbles with this, but what I've done for some speakers is to check the handles carefully to make sure that they're made of metal. Then I've through-bolted the handles into the case, making sure that there are ample washer on the inside. Then I hang the speakers by the handles. Just make sure that the hanging cable is straight to the lift point on the speaker and not fleeting off to the outside. I prefer a more accepted method of hanging, but this works in a pinch. -- JLB ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:01:07 EDT Subject: Re: speaker slings In a message dated 7/22/04 1:02:43 PM, ab [at] adamb.com writes: << I want to get my speakers off the stage floor. Unfortunatly, the speakers don't have any points for cables, or eyebolts (and installing them, or making a "cage" for them is not an option. So, what I want to do is get a sling that I can "wrap" around the speakers, going through the handles. Something like a come-along that I can wrap around the speaker, sinch tight and then use for points. All I need is some resources for slings. >> I sell slings. Lots of different kinds of slings. But I gotta tell you that in most cases speakers that don't come with flying hardware should stay on the ground. Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <8175A344-DC0C-11D8-9E79-000A95BD64AC [at] earthlink.net> Cc: THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM (Discussion list for people working in sound for live theatre.) From: Sunil Rajan Subject: tour posting Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:25:27 -0400 Hello all! Just got yet another offer to go on tour... and sadly I can't do it! National tour, mostly weekers with some splits. Cadac w/ surround system. Modified "Pink" contract. Seems like a good gig, and a few of my friends are on it. Looking for an A1 (FOH mix and crew head) available the end of August to tour thru May '05. Contact me off-list if you or someone you know may be interested! Cheers, Sunil Rajan Freelance Audio Mercenary ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000a01c4701b$2de11490$80fea8c0 [at] Mikesmadmachine> From: "Mike Rock" References: Subject: Re: New subject - Fog Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:39:10 -0500 > > http://sauve.org/images/bandfog.jpg Is that the stagecraft marching band? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3FBB59451418D511B53E00B0D0AADEBD982ACA [at] pa-es1.arts.ucla.edu> From: "Muller, David" Subject: Used Wenger Acoustic Shell for sale Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:38:26 -0700 Folks, I have been off the list for sometime now, but finally asked to be put back on the digest. I guess I've missed out on a bit. So what's my first email? Used equipment for sale. Sorry. Anyway, If anyone is interested in purchasing a used portable Wenger Acoustic Shell contact me off list. In great condition! I have six rolling units, that were used when our program was moved to the Wadsworth theater, during the restoration and seismic upgrade of Royce Hall here in Los Angeles. From 1994 (Northridge earthquake) through 1998. Since then they have been sitting unused in our rehearsal room. All six units are tapered style. Hoping they find themselves a nice home somewhere here in California. But if you are willing to pay shipping sure we can work something out. Though ours is only labeled as a Rollaway II by Wenger they seems to call it a Legacy on their web site. Couldn't get a link directly to that page so click on this link http://www.wengercorp.com/wenger/wengerhome.nsf/MainFrameset!OpenFrameset then Click on Shop and Browse Click on Theatre Product Click on Legacy If you want to see a picture of a standard set up click on "Companion Product" Pop up window Click on Legacy Acoustic Shell sets. David Muller, Technical Director B100 Royce Hall Box 951529 Los Angeles, CA 90095-1529 310. 794.4048 dmuller [at] arts.ucla.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:18:15 -0500 From: Dave Reynolds Subject: Wenger 4' x 4' platform for sale (OT) Message-id: <2147483647.1090505895 [at] [141.140.13.64]> Hi folks, I don't know if this is the right place to post this announcement, so please forgive me if it is not the right place to post this announcement. I have a Wenger 4' x 4' Versalite platform in like-new condition that I want to sell. It has at lease 2 pairs of adjustable legs. I have used it maybe 2 times since purchasing it. E-mail me off-list for more details. Dave Reynolds SONBURST Productions A man finds joy in giving an apt reply - and how good is a timely word! --Proverbs 15:23, New International Version ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:03:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Vietnamese student interested in design Message-ID: I got the following message out of the blue today and thought someone else out there might have helpful ideas for this person. I wrote back and suggested they subscribe to the stagecraft list, but in the meantime feel free to contact Nhan directly at , I'm sure it would be appreciated! Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 03:43:42 -0700 (PDT) From: nhan thanh To: ostroff [at] operaphilly.com Subject: I'm from Viet Nam ! hi ! I'm a student in Viet Nam , I'm very interested in working as a stage designer , in my country this isn't popular so I don't know where to start , can you see me where I can study it ? ( can I study it online ? because I don't have enough money to study abroad ! ) , some materials for studying which I can search online ? Thank you for your helping ! I'm looking forward to your reply ! ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:06:46 +0100 From: Dorian Kelly Subject: Re: Gobo Storage >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > I use 6 x 4 photo albums with clear plastic pockets. It works a treat DK ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #79 ****************************