Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #82 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 03:00:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #82 1. Re: London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) by "Delbert Hall" 2. Re: Music Video by "Paul Guncheon" 3. Re: London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) by Steve Larson 4. Re: London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com 5. Re: basic skill levels - was:High school musical lighting by "Scott C. Parker" 6. Re: Homemade Gobo by Bruce Purdy 7. Re: Home made gobo by Jeff Forbes 8. Re: London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) by Mark O'Brien 9. London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) by CB 10. Re: London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) by CB 11. Re: Test by "Douglas McCracken" 12. Re: Does anyone recognize this Theater? by "Douglas McCracken" 13. Re: Music Video by "Douglas McCracken" 14. Re: Music Video by MissWisc [at] aol.com 15. Re: Music Video by James Kosmatka 16. Re: Music Video by "Chris Warner" 17. Re: Music Video by "Jon Ares" 18. Re: Music Video by Jeff Kanyuck 19. Re: Music Video by Boyd Ostroff *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 08:03:25 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <000001c4723f$651270f0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-Reply-To: How do you get on a backstage tour at the National Theatre? -Delbert -----Original Message----- The Royal National Theatre complex is a must see. They have a backstage tour and excellent productions, reasonably priced. SteveV Orlando, FL ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001c01c47242$a86f7020$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Music Video Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 02:26:47 -1000 <> Don't know the theatre but that has got to be one of the most vacuous, boring, and mindless music videos I have ever seen. She has kind of a whiskey voice with not a lot of range and ill suited to the rather boring song she was singing. At least the lyrics were cliché. I did find the shot of her with the styrofoam cup rather gripping. Everyone's a critic... Laters, Paul "I got in through the window after opening it with a crowbar," said Tom enterprisingly. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 08:49:36 -0400 Subject: Re: London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: When I was there I believe that we asked at the box office. They were changing shows that day and there were no tours. Went on a tour at Drury Lane. Only three of us on the tour. The guide sneaked me back in later for a longer tour. Got a better look at Miss Saigon stuff. Steve on 7/25/04 8:03 AM, Delbert Hall at halld [at] etsu.edu wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > How do you get on a backstage tour at the National Theatre? > > -Delbert > > -----Original Message----- > > The Royal National Theatre complex is a must see. They have a backstage > > tour and excellent productions, reasonably priced. > > SteveV > Orlando, FL > > > > ------------------------------ From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: <105.4c350774.2e350975 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:02:45 EDT Subject: Re: London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) When I took it, some years ago (1981), I just bought a ticket at the box office. I think I called in advance to confirm space availability and times. We were given an inside look at each of the stage spaces and machinery (Olivier, Lyttelton, Cottesloe), the workshops, and various rehearsal spaces. There was an interesting running commentary about the history of the construction and some of the challenges they faced. I still have the full color broadsheet they gave out. It covers "What it is / What it costs / How it began", and a look at "Making an NT production." One tidbit I recall about the Olivier Theatre is that the grid-spot winch system is capable of flying a London double decker bus, should someone wish to. The Lyttelton, a proscenium theatre, has off-stage wing spaces equal in size to the stage deck, allowing a rapid change of full settings. Saw a production of "On the Razzel" designed by Carl Toms that took full advantage of this. SteveV >How do you get on a backstage tour at the National Theatre? -Delbert -----Original Message----- >The Royal National Theatre complex is a must see. They have a backstage >tour and excellent productions, reasonably priced. SteveV Orlando, FL ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20040725085825.03effec0 [at] mail.hstech.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:03:39 -0400 From: "Scott C. Parker" Subject: Re: basic skill levels - was:High school musical lighting In-Reply-To: References: hmmm. I'm told the Local 1 IA entry test has nothing to do with stagecraft. I have both scene shops and colleges actively recruiting my high school students, but have had no luck with getting any kind of direct training link to the local unions. Scott At 10:15 PM 7/24/2004, you wrote: >Unions AND major employers are both supporting the program. Scott C. Parker Production Designer/Technical Director Edward R. Murrow High School 1600 Ave. L. Brooklyn, NY 11230 ermtech~AT~hstech.org http://www.hstech.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 10:02:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Homemade Gobo From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: >> I was wondering if it'd be safe for me to make a gobo out of an >> aluminumsoda can for use in an Altman 3.5" Ellipsoidal? Advice >> would be greatly >> appreciated. Thanks! > > I'd be a little worried by that. Aluminum is pretty soft and has a > (relatively) > low melting point. I had some unsuccessful experiments with aluminum > templates in college. I was trying to make a star field, and ended up > making a great animated supernova. I just had my first experience with home-made gobos. When the windmill gobos we ordered for "Man of La Mancha" finally arrived the day of our Final Dress, they sent the wrong ones, so we had to improvise. I designed the pattern I wanted on the computer and printed out a few copies, then I taped it to the metal and cut. I tried roof flashing, which was heavy and I had to cut with a chisel. I also tried disposable oven liners which seemed disturbingly flimsy, but I could easily cut with an Exacto knife. Both turned out looking good, so I used the one heavy gobo and two of the flimsy ones in Source 4s with Gobo rotators. They were only on for a short scene, but they all worked great! Trying my first attempt at home-made gobos for the first time on opening night was nerve wracking, but all's well that ends well. (No, wait, that's a different show ....) Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:01:20 -0700 From: Jeff Forbes Subject: Re: Home made gobo >You can also use disposable baking tins for gobos, but it's a little harder >to cut well b/c of the ridges that most of them have. I've always used cookie sheets for gobos. Same material as the turkey roasting pans, but mostly flat except for a low rim around it. Less wasted material and and a few more gobos for the same money. -- Jeff A Forbes PMB 124 6820 SE Foster Rd Portland, OR 97206 (503) 888-5619 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1090784248.f03adb9fd82c9 [at] www.email.arizona.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:37:28 -0700 From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) In 1989, I took Steppenwolf's production of Grapes O' Wrath to the NT. We played the Lyttleton theatre, and I must say the stagehads were outstanding. Load in in NYC = 30 days,l La Jolla, CA, 10 days, and London was 2 days (of course we only had 2) The spot lines in the Olivier were pretty cool, however it was the full stage drum revolve that got my attention. I watched them 'Corkscrew" a castle out of the deck for the M play. A few years later, when in town for a visit, I used my old keycard to gain access to the hallways. I found myself in the greenroom, and ordered a beer. I was soon surrounded by the stagehands I had worked with earlier. It was if I had never left. A few days later, I was finally able to buy a few rounds, only because it was the 4th of July. What a wonderful place in the world. -- Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile Quoting StevevETTrn [at] aol.com: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > When I took it, some years ago (1981), I just bought a ticket at the box > office. I think I called in advance to confirm space availability and > times. > We were given an inside look at each of the stage spaces and machinery > (Olivier, Lyttelton, Cottesloe), the workshops, and various rehearsal > spaces. There > was an interesting running commentary about the history of the construction > and some of the challenges they faced. I still have the full color > broadsheet they gave out. It covers "What it is / What it costs / How it > began", and > a look at "Making an NT production." > > One tidbit I recall about the Olivier Theatre is that the grid-spot winch > system is capable of flying a London double decker bus, should someone wish > to. > The Lyttelton, a proscenium theatre, has off-stage wing spaces equal in > size to the stage deck, allowing a rapid change of full settings. Saw a > production of "On the Razzel" designed by Carl Toms that took full advantage > of this. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040725143903.0182e0a8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:39:03 From: CB Subject: London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) I fumble-fingered: >As you exit the King's ross tube station, teke a right. I meant to type, "As you exit the King's CROSS tube station, TAKE a right" Sorry... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040725144609.0182e0a8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:46:09 From: CB Subject: Re: London Touristy stuff (off topic -- you've been warned) >There is a lounge in the Marriott (of all places) right behind the Eye that >is wonderful. The woodwork is amazing and the drinks are great. It's called >the city tavern or something like that. And they're very tolerant of loud and rude jazz musician's from America as well. Maybe it was just all the apologies I made, and the huge tips to make up for it... Oh, the only place to get food at four in the morning (that I could find) is the pizza stand next to the cabstand 'round the corner from the 'London Underground' in Camden. P.S. Steve, no need to apologize about correcting my typing. As it says in the sig, you are now eligible for delete key training or post trimming seminars! ; > Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: "Douglas McCracken" Subject: Re: Test Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:05:58 -1000 Message-ID: In-reply-to: Or what NOT to do. Aloha, Douglas "I was asked to memorize what I did not understand; and, my memory being so good, it refused to be insulted in that manner." -Aleister Crowley > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Jon Ares > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 5:58 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Test > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > This is a test. Please do not reply. > > > > -Delbert > > > > > Don't tell me what to do. > > > > -- Jon Ares > Theatre Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts > www.hevanet.com/acreative > ------------------------------ From: "Douglas McCracken" Subject: Re: Does anyone recognize this Theater? Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:14:43 -1000 Message-ID: In-reply-to: I gotta tell ya, that was a boring song, until I used my WMP 9 Series and sped up the song 2 notches to 1.2, and what a difference. I thought the song actually ROCKED at that speed. IMHO Aloha, Douglas "I was asked to memorize what I did not understand; and, my memory being so good, it refused to be insulted in that manner." -Aleister Crowley > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Jason > Tollefson > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 4:19 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Does anyone recognize this Theater? > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > The pop singer, Jessica Simpson's, new video "Angel" takes place > on and backstage of an empty > theater and I was wondering if anyone here recognizes the venue. > If you can't stand her singing > just turn the volume down. > > http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/JessicaSimpson/video/JessicaSimps on_AngelsVidFull_300.asx Thanks, I'm afraid this might drive me nuts if I don't figure it out. BTW: It might make a good recruitment video for flymen : ) Jason Tollefson LD-at-Large Orlando, FL ------------------------------ From: "Douglas McCracken" Subject: Re: Music Video Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:32:55 -1000 Message-ID: In-reply-to: Have you agree with you, Paul ol' boy. Jessica doesn't cut it for me. As a performer and singer. I saw her on the 4th of July celebration in the Ford Theatre. IMHO she was blown away and off the stage by Patti Labelle and the other woman (can't remember her name right now. I now I'm going to catch flak for that) Aloha, Douglas "I was asked to memorize what I did not understand; and, my memory being so good, it refused to be insulted in that manner." -Aleister Crowley > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Paul > Guncheon > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:27 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Music Video > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > < backstage of an empty theater and I was wondering if anyone here > recognizes > the venue. If you can't stand her singing just turn the volume down>> > > Don't know the theatre but that has got to be one of the most vacuous, > boring, and mindless music videos I have ever seen. She has kind of a > whiskey voice with not a lot of range and ill suited to the rather boring > song she was singing. At least the lyrics were cliché. > > I did find the shot of her with the styrofoam cup rather gripping. > > Everyone's a critic... > > > Laters, > > Paul > > "I got in through the window after opening it with a crowbar," said Tom > enterprisingly. > > ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:48:09 EDT Subject: Re: Music Video Cc: dbasMcCracken [at] hawaii.rr.com In a message dated 7/25/4 5:33:29 PM, dbasMcCracken [at] hawaii.rr.com wrote: <> Hear, hear!! The difference between packaging and true talent. I'll take Patti anyday over 99% of the stuff on MTV. Is it just me, or is there no more creativity to music videos? Remember the cool cartoon/live video of "Take On Me" by A-Ha? Peter Gabriel morphing into food? Even Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney horsing around with a shaving brush showed some originality. We have so much more potential to do things thanks to CGI but it seems music videos don't use it. Don't need anymore skeleton girls with fake boobs doing aerobics and calling it dance. Don't need anymore pretty boy guitar players with boring three chord tunes. Look at what B.B. King can do with those same three chords! Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4104628D.30308 [at] cleveland-theater.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:46:53 -0400 From: James Kosmatka Subject: Re: Music Video References: In-Reply-To: Yeah, I remember the good ol' days when the music industry had INTEGRITY. Classic and original acts like The Archies, Pat Boone, The Village People, Tiffany, and Milli Vanilli. -james MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: >The difference between packaging and true talent. I'll take Patti anyday over >99% of the stuff on MTV. Is it just me, or is there no more creativity to >music videos? Remember the cool cartoon/live video of "Take On Me" by A-Ha? Peter >Gabriel morphing into food? Even Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney horsing >around with a shaving brush showed some originality. We have so much more >potential to do things thanks to CGI but it seems music videos don't use it. > >Don't need anymore skeleton girls with fake boobs doing aerobics and calling >it dance. Don't need anymore pretty boy guitar players with boring three chord >tunes. Look at what B.B. King can do with those same three chords! > >Kristi > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <02b901c472b3$9e443880$6501a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" References: Subject: Re: Music Video Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:55:25 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Music Video > Don't need anymore skeleton girls with fake boobs doing aerobics and calling > it dance. Don't need anymore pretty boy guitar players with boring three chord > tunes. Look at what B.B. King can do with those same three chords! > > Kristi What does that say about our society? When community theatre have trouble keeping anyone under the age of 50 in seats and you walk into a hobby shop and all you see is assembled models. Well, I'll get off of my soap box for awhile. Chris ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001101c472b4$0b2bb4f0$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Music Video Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:58:26 -0700 > > What does that say about our society? When community theatre have trouble > keeping anyone under the age of 50 in seats and you walk into a hobby shop > and all you see is assembled models. So there's the secret. Jessica Simpson needs to go sit in a community theatre and build a model. I expect she'll be wearing very little while she does this. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:50:43 -0800 From: Jeff Kanyuck Subject: Re: Music Video Message-id: <000401c472bb$5a8f2d40$c04bed18 [at] anchorageak.net> References: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Ares" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Music Video > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > What does that say about our society? When community theatre have trouble > > keeping anyone under the age of 50 in seats and you walk into a hobby shop > > and all you see is assembled models. > > So there's the secret. Jessica Simpson needs to go sit in a community > theatre and build a model. I expect she'll be wearing very little while she > does this. > > -- Jon Ares > Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts > www.hevanet.com/acreative > Of course.. she wouldn't want to ruin any of her clothes! .. silly !. .. achem. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 23:24:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Music Video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Jul 2004, Douglas McCracken wrote: > IMHO she was blown away and off the stage by Patti Labelle I designed a show that Patti appeared in a year ago (Denyce Graves PBS concert) and I gotta say that she is simply incredible, the true definition of a diva. Actually the rehearsal was even more amazing for me than the performance - she rolled up in her stretch black SUV limo, walked right out on stage, said hi to everyone, then sang a new duet for the very first time and totally nailed it. Everyone onstage and in the theatre went nuts, it's something I'll never forget. Denyce is great also, but even she was in awe of Patti. I can't even imagine pairing her with a no-talent like Jessica... Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #82 ****************************