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Re: MSDS & consumer products by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com 2. need help with the moon (urgent!) by kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il 3. Re: need help with the moon (urgent!) by IAEG [at] aol.com 4. Re: need help with the moon (urgent!) by Steve Larson 5. Re: need help with the moon (urgent!) by IAEG [at] aol.com 6. Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters... by usctd [at] columbia.sc 7. Re: need help with the moon (urgent!) by doran [at] bard.edu 8. job postings... by Michael Sorensen 9. Re: need help with the moon (urgent!) by "Joe Golden" 10. Luminex by Michael Millar 11. Edward Gordon Craig by "Dave Tosti-Lane" 12. High School Sound (was:Re: High school musical lighting) by CB 13. Re: A hard day, time for a libation by "John D. Palmer" 14. Israeli rental house info by jharari [at] socal.rr.com 15. Re: Israeli rental house info by "Jon Ares" 16. Re: Israeli rental house info by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 17. High School Sound (was:Re: High school musical lighting) by "LES LIND" 18. Re: MSDS & consumer products by MissWisc [at] aol.com 19. Re: MSDS & consumer products by Steve Larson 20. Re: Does anyone recognize this Theater? by "Tony Petruzziello" 21. Re: High School Sound (was:Re: High school musical lighting) by David Duffy 22. Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters by Joe 23. Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters by Chris Wych 24. Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters by Noah Price 25. Re: MSDS & consumer products by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com 26. Re: scenography in relation to puppetry by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com 27. Re: MSDS & consumer products (makeup) by MissWisc [at] aol.com 28. Terminology Question by "Andy Leviss" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1ad.26c1f0e7.2e40cbb0 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:06:24 EDT Subject: Re: MSDS & consumer products >I will assume then that they were there for worker safety [OSHA's bailiwick], >and not for customer safety. >/s/ Richard >MSDS binders that's kept in the R&D lab. >Kristi Ross-Clausen In a nut shell, yes. OSHA's mandate is for the protection of employees. The FDA is focused on consumers. At the manufacturing plant, there are employees working with chemical products so they would need the MSDS for reference. When you sell the finished products to the consumer, do you provide them with an MSDS? I suspect it is an FDA approval that applies. Cleaning supplies are a good example of splitting hairs. If it is my "job" to clean the office, then I must have access to the MSDS and receive HazCom training. If I simply wipe down my own desk (with the same products) it is not required because my use is as a consumer, not as an employee. As noted previously, there are some exceptions to OSHA rules For example, are students covered as "employees"? And, if you work for a governmental agency, are you specifically excluded from OSHA protections? Are you under Federal OSHA or a state plan? In addition, Congress as excluded many classes of consumer products from FDA jurisdiction. All this makes it difficult to generalize. As a precaution, some are following all possible regulations even if they are not mandated as Litigation always seems to be lurking. Steve Vanciel Orlando, FL ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1091533573.410f7b05a89c7 [at] webmail.tau.ac.il> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:46:13 +0300 From: kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il Subject: need help with the moon (urgent!) Hi everybody: I have a show with a moon box, about 5 feet in diameter, about 5 or 6" de= ep, with a perspex cover. It has to shine white and then turn red. We lined t= he circumference with bulbs, base on the edge and pointing inward. That work= s ok for the white circuit(sort of),but for the red, where the lamps are weake= r, we can't get an even glow. We tried all kinds of different incandescent lamp= s, from the simplest to various reflector lamps as high as 80W, and we keep getting spotty results. We don't have enough budget for neon, which would= be ideal, or for fluorescents which would necessitate a special dimming circ= uit. Any ideas? It's pretty urgent, so if you think of something and want to e= mail me directly that would be great. Thanks Judy ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:59:15 EDT Subject: Re: need help with the moon (urgent!) In a message dated 8/3/04 4:47:04 AM, kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il writes: << I have a show with a moon box, about 5 feet in diameter, about 5 or 6" deep, with a perspex cover. It has to shine white and then turn red. We lined the circumference with bulbs, base on the edge and pointing inward. That works ok for the white circuit(sort of),but for the red, where the lamps are weaker, we can't get an even glow. We tried all kinds of different incandescent lamps, from the simplest to various reflector lamps as high as 80W, and we keep getting spotty results. We don't have enough budget for neon, which would be ideal, or for fluorescents which would necessitate a special dimming circuit >> As for lamp placement, I have used appliance / music stand bulbs (tubular) and placed them around the opening length wise, not with the tip pointing in. This should give you a pretty even wash. I have also played with adding reflective surfaces around them for more efficiency. It would seem to me a triple row, three deep of tubular appliance lamps, one row clear, and two rows "dipped" for your red should do the trick. That is if your existing moon box has suitable depth. IIRC from my old Opera Company of Boston days, , we had a MONSTER sun box, (J & M? ) with photoflood lamps pointed straight forward, and a Gerriets "plastic" face to it to help diffuse. Lamps would overheat in there and blow, it needed forced air ventilation. The thought of that unit still scares me. Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 08:05:46 -0400 Subject: Re: need help with the moon (urgent!) From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Try using rope lights. Available at Home Depot and Lowes. If the covering of the moon box is frosted or diffused, you should be able to start at the center and run the rope in an ever widening circle. Run the red and white side by side from center to outer edge. Circuit separately. Should work. Steve on 8/3/04 7:46 AM, kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il at kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi everybody: > > I have a show with a moon box, about 5 feet in diameter, about 5 or 6" deep, > with a perspex cover. It has to shine white and then turn red. We lined the > circumference with bulbs, base on the edge and pointing inward. That works ok > for the white circuit(sort of),but for the red, where the lamps are weaker, we > can't get an even glow. We tried all kinds of different incandescent lamps, > from the simplest to various reflector lamps as high as 80W, and we keep > getting spotty results. We don't have enough budget for neon, which would be > ideal, or for fluorescents which would necessitate a special dimming circuit. > > Any ideas? It's pretty urgent, so if you think of something and want to email > me > directly that would be great. > Thanks > Judy > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <194.2b99ef2f.2e40e04e [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 08:34:22 EDT Subject: Re: need help with the moon (urgent!) In a message dated 8/3/04 5:06:58 AM, tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com writes: << Try using rope lights. Available at Home Depot and Lowes. If the covering of the moon box is frosted or diffused, you should be able to start at the center and run the rope in an ever widening circle. Run the red and white side by side from center to outer edge. Circuit separately. Should work. Steve >> great idea Steve, , , I will file that one away Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3667.129.252.241.105.1091542754.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 10:19:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters... From: usctd [at] columbia.sc You may not want to do the scale thing. It is more trouble than it's worth. Once you scale it you would have to tweak the shaft, plate hole size and spacing, etc.... You really want to use the actual caster you are using as not all 6" casters are the same. If you go to the McMaster Carr catalogue (or the hamilton caster site as Patrick said), you can get specs for hundreds of casters. There are drawings and 3d views available. You can make your drawing from them quite easily. -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > At 03:51 PM 8/2/2004, you wrote: >>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >>--------------------------------------------------- >> >>Does anyone happen to have any CAD blocks of a 6"x2"w >>swivel caster? My caster supplier hasn't been able to >>get them from the manufacturer, so I'm hoping someone >>the list might have some that they are willing to >>share. >> >>Thanks, >>Mike H > > I've got a 3D of a Bassick 4 x 1-1/2 that you could maybe scale? > > If you want 2D, go to hamiltoncasters.com and download the file of your > choice. > > Patrick > > G. Patrick McCreary > Ass't. Professor - Technical Director > Department of Theater and Dance > Indiana University of Pennsylvania > Indiana, PA 15701 > (Office) 724-357-2644 > (Home) 724-349-4309 > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1091544152.410fa4588c5e2 [at] webmail.bard.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 10:42:32 -0400 From: doran [at] bard.edu Cc: kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il Subject: Re: need help with the moon (urgent!) References: In-Reply-To: Judy, We couldn't afford the real neon either, but we did a pretty convincing "red neon" light box this year with Osram Linestra lamps, which I've seen in both 40" and 20" lengths. They're incandescent, and at full seem to have a bit of an amber color. But, with a light diffusion over the moon hole, and one row of red gel-wrapped lamps and one row of un-wrapped lamps, I think you can do something. We've used them wrapped before, and it works pretty well. I will admit that most everyone here, including myself, was skeptical about getting a really good neon look out of a shop-made light box, but our Production manager, Jeff Drucker, convinced us to try it. Even the director, on seeing it the first time, said, "I thought we couldn't afford neon." The nice thing about these is that they spread their light pretty well at the source, so you don't get a hot, hot spot at the light. Just remember to cut a few vents at the top of your light box, and you should be good for quite a while. We went for about a week-and-a-half with not a single problem. Best of Luck, Andy Champ-Doran Technical Director Bard College Departments of Dance and Theater Annandal-on-Hudson, NY Quoting kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il: > Hi everybody: > > I have a show with a moon box, about 5 feet in diameter, about 5 or 6" deep, > with a perspex cover. It has to shine white and then turn red. We lined the > circumference with bulbs, base on the edge and pointing inward. That works > ok > for the white circuit(sort of),but for the red, where the lamps are weaker, > we > can't get an even glow. We tried all kinds of different incandescent lamps, > from the simplest to various reflector lamps as high as 80W, and we keep > getting spotty results. We don't have enough budget for neon, which would be > ideal, or for fluorescents which would necessitate a special dimming > circuit. > > Any ideas? It's pretty urgent, so if you think of something and want to email > me > directly that would be great. > Thanks > Judy > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040803145504.4212.qmail [at] web50702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:55:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sorensen Subject: job postings... In-Reply-To: here's two openings that just became available as our TD and the Broadcast Media teacher move on to greener pastures. Please pass them on to anyone who might be interested. I'm not sure, but the MFA requirement may be waived depending on experience and due to the emergency search. Michael Sorensen Technical Director, School of Music Austin Peay State University The Department of Communication and Theatre at Austin Peay State University is conducting an emergency search for qualified applicants for 2 vacant faculty positions. The teaching positions are temporary fulltime positions for 2004-05. A national search will be conducted during the fall to fill the tenure-track positions on a permanent basis. If appointed, applicants will join fifteen other faculty in a communication and theatre department known for graduating well-prepared professionals, educated on a friendly campus where teaching is taken seriously. Theatrical Designer /Technical Director: Seeks applications for a Designer/Technical Director for mainstage theatrical productions. Applicants must be qualified to construct and supervise construction of props, scenery, lighting, and theatrical sets. Experience with blueprints, electrics, woodworking, painting, and sound is essential. Applicants must have the ability to lift and carry materials weighing between 50-100 pounds on a daily basis; and endure prolonged standing, frequent bending or stooping and climbing of steps and ladders with occasional work on stage grid at a height of 60 feet. The successful candidate will: assist in the supervision of the daily operation of the shop, supervise student workers, supervise set strike and salvage operations, and other duties as assigned. The applicant will design one show per semester and Tech one show per semester. The teaching load will be 9 hours per semester involving the teaching of Stagecraft and Introduction to the Theatre. Broadcast Media. Seeks applications for an assistant professor in broadcast media. We are seeking a motivated individual who responds to challenges and who can be actively involved in the department's growing broadcast media (sports broadcasting, weekly cable shows, political action forums, university activities, etc.). Candidates must be qualified for teaching broadcast media courses (radio and/or television). Along with other responsibilities, the successful candidate will be expected to work with sports broadcasting and live studio events. Many events, including sports, occur during evening and weekend hours. Minimum Qualifications: Masters Degree with 18 hours in the discipline and must be eligible to work in the United States. Please submit letter of interest, curriculum vitae, official college/university transcripts (copies are appropriate for the initial contact), email address, and three names of references to: Dr. Mike Gotcher, Austin Peay State University, Dept. of Communication and Theatre, P.O. Box 4446, Clarksville, TN 37044. As we are interested in diversifying our candidate pools for all faculty positions, we encourage minorities, women and members of other protected groups to apply. APSU is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer. E-mail: gotcherm [at] apsu.edu Phone: (931) 221-7364 Fax: (931) 221-7265 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Subject: RE: need help with the moon (urgent!) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 08:04:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" Have you thought about LED. We have some 12" long and 54" long with 48" of light LED tubes that will give you a nice red through frosted plexi, but they aren't the best for white. They are both rental item's. Contact me off list if this might work. Joe Golden Entertainment Lighting Services 800-357-5444 > I have a show with a moon box, about 5 feet in diameter,=20 > about 5 or 6" deep, with a perspex cover. It has to shine=20 > white and then turn red. We lined the circumference with=20 > bulbs, base on the edge and pointing inward. That works ok=20 > for the white circuit(sort of),but for the red, where the=20 > lamps are weaker, we can't get an even glow. We tried all=20 > kinds of different incandescent lamps, from the simplest to=20 > various reflector lamps as high as 80W, and we keep getting=20 > spotty results. We don't have enough budget for neon, which=20 > would be ideal, or for fluorescents which would necessitate a=20 > special dimming circuit. >=20 > Any ideas? It's pretty urgent, so if you think of something=20 > and want to email me directly that would be great. Thanks Judy ------------------------------ Message-ID: <410FB370.1000805 [at] ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 08:46:56 -0700 From: Michael Millar Subject: Luminex Has anyone out there used a fabric called Lumiex. It's a fiber optic/led embedded fabric. Potentially really cool. http://www.luminex.it/ My wife is in Spain working on a show for the Biennal in Sevilla, and I stumbled across a page referring to this stuff. The European offices are closed for holiday, of course. And the US distributor in NYC allegedly charges 3 times the european price. They may have the budget for it, but we'd really like to know more about how it handles, batteries, color changing, etc. Thanks, Michael Millar ------------------------------ Subject: Edward Gordon Craig Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 09:20:49 -0700 Message-ID: <4F817A7A53C7F448BF62014A3A91B1C0010F1183 [at] sasha.cornish.edu> From: "Dave Tosti-Lane" >Obviously Craig's theory about the UberMarionete is related to our = subject. But Craig wrote it addressing to the actor and (roughly speaking) = demanded from him/her to turn into a puppet. In our research, another side of a similar (or maybe the same) issue is = being examined: While Craig wished the actor could turn into a = Super-Puppet, we examine scenography as a constant puppet factor in = actors' theatre and the results of this coexistance (mainly from the = scenographer's point of view).< I would encourage people to read _CRAIG_, not what others, particularly = actors and directors, and perhaps worst of all _critics_ have written = about him. Craig himself in the preface to a later edition of his work = pointed out that in that famous (infamous?) essay he absolutely did not = mean to suggest replacing actors with puppets , or making the actors = more "puppet-like" - far from it. He describes the Uber-marionette as = "the actor minus ego and plus fire" (that's only a paraphrase from = memory). If anything, he was reacting strongly to an acting style that = was both overly stylized and wooden. Craig did work with marionettes, = and small scale theaters, but mainly as a means of demonstrating and = experimenting with his scenographic concepts and ideas. The essay is = really pretty clear about that, he is talking about defining the = instrument of the actor, and how it is controled by the artist (still = the actor) in relation to the instrument of a musician, or the = instrument used by a painter, or other artist. Craig himself was an = accomplished actor in early life, and the son of one of the most = important actresses of the time. He was also known for arguing both sides of an issue passionately - = often he constructed dialogs in his writing in which he took both parts. = I think he would be quite at home on this list in fact . Dave Tosti-Lane Cornish College of the Arts www.cornish.edu ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040803111644.0182c798 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 11:16:44 From: CB Subject: High School Sound (was:Re: High school musical lighting) >The hardest thing was keeping track of the 6 wireless mics >while they swapped between actors as required. A meter >bridge on the mixer would have made it easier to see who >was on what mic channel at a glance. Maybe next time. Meter bridges are fairly expensive. Next time, set up your script so that you have each page in front of you, and the back of the last page to make notes on. Making double sided copies with the script page on the front and a 'template' on the back three holes in the left side and this goes into a three-ring-binder, and VIOLA, this happens. Make the template whatever you need to make, but Iike to have a small representation of the stage , and put a number near where any entrances/exits might happen, and a list of who's on stage for what line on what mic. Learn your script as lines on mics as opposed to lines from what actor, and you can skip a mental leap. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200408031836.CCV89990 [at] ms7.netsolmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 11:36:28 -0700 From: "John D. Palmer" Subject: RE: A hard day, time for a libation "I prefer drinking tequila," said Tomas worming his way into the conversation. JDP ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 12:09:27 -0700 From: jharari [at] socal.rr.com Subject: Israeli rental house info Message-id: <186b33018703f2.18703f2186b330 [at] socal.rr.com> I'm the best man for a wedding in Israel, and from what I've been hearing from the groom I'd like to be ready for anything. I'm looking for Phone numbers for a rental house (basic lighting and audio stuff), and a tent (outdoor ceremony) and chair rental company. As well as anything other services the collective knowledge of the "list" thinks I might need :) TIA Joel Harari Theatre Mnager Western High School Anaheim, CA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001a01c47990$4296d810$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Israeli rental house info Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 12:29:56 -0700 > I'm the best man for a wedding in Israel, and from what I've been hearing from the groom I'd like to be ready for anything. I'm looking for Phone numbers for a rental house (basic lighting and audio stuff), and a tent (outdoor ceremony) and chair rental company. As well as anything other services the collective knowledge of the "list" thinks I might need :) "Best Man," or "Production Manager?" :) Congrats, regardless. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1a5.267431c8.2e414342 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:36:34 EDT Subject: Re: Israeli rental house info In a message dated 8/3/04 3:30:43 PM, jonares [at] hevanet.com writes: << "Best Man," or "Production Manager?" :) Congrats, regardless. >> In Israel, as in many other places, they pretty much are the same. Bill S. (not sure whether to offer my congratulations or my condolences. <>) Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 16:24:20 -0400 From: "LES LIND" Subject: High School Sound (was:Re: High school musical lighting) The last time I worked sound for a musical I used 10 wireless mics. I took apart 2, 3-ring binders and gaffed them to the board just below the sliders. As we went on to the next scene I flipped the paper strip below the faders that had the actor and wireless being used for that scene. The hardest part was remembering to flip to the next scene. I wrote a cue in the script to remind myself. It worked pretty slick. Les Lind, TD NHS Dramatics Northeastern High School Manchester, PA >>> psyd [at] cox.net 8/3/04 11:16:44 AM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- >The hardest thing was keeping track of the 6 wireless mics >while they swapped between actors as required. A meter >bridge on the mixer would have made it easier to see who >was on what mic channel at a glance. Maybe next time. Meter bridges are fairly expensive. Next time, set up your script so that you have each page in front of you, and the back of the last page to make notes on. Making double sided copies with the script page on the front and a 'template' on the back three holes in the left side and this goes into a three-ring-binder, and VIOLA, this happens. Make the template whatever you need to make, but Iike to have a small representation of the stage , and put a number near where any entrances/exits might happen, and a list of who's on stage for what line on what mic. Learn your script as lines on mics as opposed to lines from what actor, and you can skip a mental leap. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 17:09:51 -0400 From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Subject: Re: MSDS & consumer products Message-ID: <28AA6E87.4390369C.007B9F2A [at] aol.com> That's why I'm asking... Local legal counsel says we need MSDS for the makeup used in the theatre. FDA doesn't require that, but it makes sense that if you're using it as an employee (or even student though I know OSHA isn't AHJ for them) that you should have them. Help??? Kristi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 17:15:28 -0400 Subject: Re: MSDS & consumer products From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Can't the manufacturers of the makeup provide it? I quit supplying makeup for students years ago. Germs get passed around so easily when they share. Each student bought their own student kit. Saved us a lot of money. Steve on 8/3/04 5:09 PM, MissWisc [at] aol.com at MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > That's why I'm asking... > > Local legal counsel says we need MSDS for the makeup used in the theatre. FDA > doesn't require that, but it makes sense that if you're using it as an > employee (or even student though I know OSHA isn't AHJ for them) that you > should have them. > > Help??? > > Kristi > > ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Does anyone recognize this Theater? Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:28:11 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Tony Petruzziello" I think it's a great song as it is, but I see your point - it does rock when you speed it up. TonyP Electrosonic Systems, Inc. www.electrosonic.com -----Original Message----- From: Douglas McCracken [mailto:dbasMcCracken [at] hawaii.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 6:15 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Does anyone recognize this Theater? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I gotta tell ya, that was a boring song, until I used my WMP 9 Series and sped up the song 2 notches to 1.2, and what a difference. I thought the song actually ROCKED at that speed. IMHO Aloha, Douglas _____ =20 avast! Antivirus : Outbound message clean.=20 Virus Database (VPS): 0432-1, 08/03/2004 Tested on: 8/3/2004 5:28:00 PM avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41102B8D.4000705 [at] audiovisualdevices.com.au> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:19:25 +1000 From: David Duffy Subject: Re: High School Sound (was:Re: High school musical lighting) References: In-Reply-To: CB wrote: >>The hardest thing was keeping track of the 6 wireless mics >>while they swapped between actors as required. A meter >>bridge on the mixer would have made it easier to see who >>was on what mic channel at a glance. Maybe next time. >> >> > >Meter bridges are fairly expensive. Next time, set up your script so that >you have each page in front of you, and the back of the last page to make >notes on. Making double sided copies with the script page on the front and >a 'template' on the back three holes in the left side and this goes into a >three-ring-binder, and VIOLA, this happens. Make the template whatever you >need to make, but Iike to have a small representation of the stage , and >put a number near where any entrances/exits might happen, and a list of >who's on stage for what line on what mic. Learn your script as lines on >mics as opposed to lines from what actor, and you can skip a mental leap. > > Yes, the script. Well... I had one and then someone offered to swap it for a properly laid out one similar to what you described. Then they lost it, along with the other lighting documentation we had! So I ended up with a standard script (A5 sized) and had to write notes all over it to get going. Oh well, luckily I was mainly doing the lighting and only had to take over the sound as well when the teacher doing it had to play piano in one song each time. Multitasking's the word! :-) I still might build that meter bridge one day. I'll add it to my to-do list. A general purpose 19" unit with maybe 8 10-segment bargraphs will do. David... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20040804022857.0119b8c4 [at] pop.paonline.com> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 22:28:57 -0400 From: Joe Subject: Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters Cc: Michael [at] paonline.com, "Heinicke Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 19:45:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Wych Subject: Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters In-Reply-To: Are you thinking of http://cben.net/ (Cad Block Exchange Network). If you upload it there please tell us where you put it. They also have alot of furniture too for people that are looking for that. If you want I could also host it on my webspace. Chris Wych --- Joe wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have 3D blocks for Colson Casters, 3" to 10" as > well as Accorn, 4' to > 12". Some use a "2-D solid with thickness" that is > unique to AutoCAD and > may not translate into other cad systems. But, I > would be happy to share > them. I also have some lighting fixtures, but again > some may not translate > well. > > I recall that there was a web page somewhere > which hosted these kinds of > CAD blocks. Perhaps I should just upload it there. > Anyone have a link to it? > Joe Dunfee joe [at] dunfee.com > Gordonville, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. > > ===== IL State U. Theatre Student a_small_idiot [at] yahoo.com ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ My Theatre Techie Sites: Links- http://www.theatretechie.com Webpage- http://members.aol.com/CPWTCH007/tech.html ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <4699D4A9-E5C3-11D8-83E9-000A958ABBF8 [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 20:06:27 -0700 On Aug 3, 2004, at 7:28 PM, Joe wrote: > I recall that there was a web page somewhere which hosted these > kinds of > CAD blocks. Perhaps I should just upload it there. Anyone have a link > to it? I started collecting things for the Stagecraft site at one point, but never got very far. If you'd like to sent it, I'll get a CAD section started again. Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | Web issues: stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | | Web site administrator | Personal: noah [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1de.26723eea.2e41b19a [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 23:27:22 EDT Subject: Re: MSDS & consumer products Kristi writes: >Local legal counsel says we need MSDS for the makeup used in the theatre. >FDA doesn't require that, but it makes sense that if you're using it as an employee.... Yup. Sounds like lawyers covering your hindside with a strict interpretation. So, check the manufacturer's web site. Chances are that they post MSDS info for downloading. If not there, they should have an address (phone number) for requesting sheets. It doesn't hurt to have more information on hand than you think you'll ever need. (I once found an MSDS for ELECTRICITY of all things. Sounds like a joke, but it was actually produced for a power generating outfit.) Also, keep in mind that having the sheets is only one piece of the program. Do you have Hazard Communication (HazCom) training in place? What about a chemical inventory, compliant storage and handling procedures, personal protective equipment, emergency response plan? These are what can make a difference, not just having a binder full of papers. SteveV Orl, FL ------------------------------ From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 23:47:29 EDT Subject: Re: scenography in relation to puppetry Stathis writes: >An Actor pretends to be someone else than his/her real character >(except in some cases where he PRETENDS to be himself). >One could say that through his/her interpretation of the role he/she reveals him/herself. >But there is a difference between the two natures and the way they expose themselves. This reminded me of a book written by Peter Brook, _The Empty Space_. As the dust cover states: " One of the world's most famous directors gives us the distillation of his knowledge and experience of the theatre." It contains four chapters, which originated as university lectures: 1. The Deadly Theatre 2. The Holy Theatre 3. The Rough Theatre 4. The Immediate Theatre You might find this relevant to your line of inquiry. Steve Vanciel Orlando, FL ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <29.5dfac01c.2e41c9ac [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 01:10:04 EDT Subject: Re: MSDS & consumer products (makeup) Cc: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com A single phone call got me MSDS for the Mary Kay products I use as stage makeup. Foundation/cleanser/skin care products come in squeeze tubes or bottles so they can be safely shared by squeezing on to a cotton ball or a clean disposable surface (I use small styrofoam plates cut in fours). For color items I use samples or cut/scrape some onto the plate. Since I only do one show a year and my students are young enough that most don't wear makeup, this is MUCH less expensive for everyone. I provide the makeup at wholesale and can tell others on the list how to get it that way too - email me off list. I prefer to do it this way instead of having a student buy the wrong thing or buy something they use once and let it sit with the dust bunnies under the bed until next year. I teach them how to apply it safely and have a parent who's trained supervise the kids in the makeup area. Never had a problem and my kids don't get "acne cosmetica" - a condition common to people who share makeup or don't remove it properly. That ghastly community tackle box with 20 dirty fingers digging into the same tube of greasepaint from 1960 is just wrong, wrong, wrong. Sharing sponges wiped over Pan-Cake that's so old it's cracked into a million pieces is wrong. I'm shocked at the number of high schools and community theaters who are using unhygienic practices for something that can be so inexpensive to do safely. If yours still is, please contact me! Yes, Steve, we do have a hazardous materials clean-up protocol, blood born pathogens protocol (State of WI mandates that), and emergency protocol for fire, flood, bomb, intruder, etc. Training is given each year and personal protection items are easily obtainable. The school is small - only 150 kids - but a VIP parent who's an attorney helps us follow the rules. That's why I was asking about what OSHA requires and where to find it in writing. Cosmetics are an odd duck when it comes to US government regulations. FDA is responsible, but has no pre-market approval and will only investigate a product when several claims of adverse reactions have been made. In other words, Susie down the street can start producing harmful makeup in her bathtub and selling it in dirty jars with no address or company name on the label but there's nothing the FDA can do about it until they can prove someone was hurt. Most people think cosmetics are double-blind tested like pharmaceuticals since it's the same government agency supervising. Nope. And cosmetics have a shelf life that depends on proper storage too. One of the reasons I became a consultant with Mary Kay is they make their own products in an OSHA star certified, FDA monitored plant in Dallas. I've been in it several times (tours available to the general public - just call and ask), have talked with people who work there, and have photos of what happens. Only place I've ever been with a huge sign saying "Welcome OSHA" hanging over the door. So different from the kid's Halloween makeup that's made in China with heaven-only-knows-what for ingredients. THAT is SCARY!!!! Kristi http://www.marykay.com/kross-clausen ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: Terminology Question Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 01:48:00 -0400 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <00cf01c479e6$9a686b70$2802a8c0 [at] AndyLeviss> Hey gang, I may just be having a total brain fart, but a friend of mine recently asked me a question about a piece of theatre "jargon" he'd recently heard but couldn't recall, and I'm currently stumped. He asked, "A traveling show is called a 'road show.' What is the home base show called?" The only thing I could think of was a resident company, but he said it wasn't that, it was more of a slang term. Any ideas? Preferably more obscure ones that aren't going to make me smack my head and feel stupid for not thinking of it ;o) Thanks, Andy "Will sound engineer/system tech/RF tech for food" --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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