Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4070430; Fri, 06 Aug 2004 03:01:52 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #93 Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 03:01:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.60 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.2.3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #93 1. gobo moon by kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il 2. Re: gobo moon by Herrick 3. Dimming Fluorescents by "Stirling Shelton" 4. Re: plays as scenes in movies by Paul Masck 5. Re: OTR Again by "Frank E. Merrill" 6. Re[2]: Life Plans by "Frank E. Merrill" 7. Re[4]: Israeli rental house info by "Frank E. Merrill" 8. Re: Those darn balloon drops by Sunil Rajan 9. Re: Best Boy by "Paul Guncheon" 10. Re: Lightwright layout by "Scott C. Parker" 11. Re: Those darn balloon drops by Richard Bakos 12. Celastic and Heat Activated Materials by "Brian Jeffrey" 13. Re: moon by "Phil Johnson" 14. Away by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 15. Re: Celastic and Heat Activated Materials by IAEG [at] aol.com 16. Re: Lightwrite & portfolios by "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" 17. Re: college vs union & Matt G. by "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" 18. Re: Lightwrite & portfolios by Richard Bakos 19. Re: college vs union & Matt G. by Dave Bowman 20. Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info by Bruce Purdy 21. Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info by Boyd Ostroff 22. Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters by Chris Wych 23. Re: Those darn balloon drops by Wood Chip-P26398 24. Re: Those darn balloon drops by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 25. Re: college vs union & Matt G. by mat goebel 26. Re: college vs union & Matt G. by "Chris Warner" 27. Re: Lightwrite & portfolios by John McKernon *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <1091701948.41120cbc6d556 [at] webmail.tau.ac.il> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:32:28 +0300 From: kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il Subject: gobo moon Herrick, Your moon looks beautiful. But mine is behind a black gauze so that solut= ion isn't an option! thanks anyway Judy Herrick Goldman wrote: " had a similar issue a few years ago with the Moon for Batboy and a designer who wanted an 18' moon box to "float in". It was way too expensive. We ended up putting 2 selecon zoom fixtures in a tree DS of the cyc and using a glass gobo. It was gorgeous. one light with the moon gobo was light orange (harvest) the other was just the same size circle slightly fuzzed with a blood red gel. the 2 blended beautifully. Pics are on my website under Batboy. The Selecons gave me an appx. 14' moon. YMMV." ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 07:29:13 -0400 Subject: Re: gobo moon From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: I don't suppose you have room upstage to rear project? On Thursday, Aug 5, 2004, at 06:32 America/New_York, kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il wrote: > But mine is behind a black gauze so that solution > isn't an option! > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: "Stirling Shelton" Subject: Dimming Fluorescents Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 07:37:49 -0400 Message-ID: Just a few notes about dimming Fluorescents. AKA "Things we (technical Personnel at Playhouse in the park) have learned about Dimming Fluorescents" AKA "Do's and Don't about dimming Fluorescents" All of the dimmable fluorescents that we have used require at least a 100 hour BURN IN! They mean it. 100 hours. Turn them on, let them run for 100 hours, then turn them off. Really, this makes a big difference. GROUND. GROUND. GROUND is very important. Follow the manufacturers guidelines for wiring to the letter. Some daisy chain, some do not. Do what ever they tell you. They all appear to use ground to stabilize the warm and dim circuit. Dimming Fluorescents require a warming circuit. A non-dim circuit to function. Make sure that the non-dim circuit and the dimming circuit are on the SAME phase. We have a bunch of t-8 (the really small stuff) and the the standard t-12 size (do not a lots of this size) of dimming fluorescents ballasts, lamps and sockets. Contact me off list for borrowing. Stirling Shelton Technical Director Cincinnati Playhouse in the Park 2827 Gilbert AVE Cincinnati, OH 45206 513-345-2255 ext 302 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <6C892F00-E6DB-11D8-8E73-00039301A716 [at] masck.com> From: Paul Masck Subject: Re: plays as scenes in movies Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 08:31:50 -0400 > "Douglas McCracken" wrote: > > In the movie "The Life of David Gale", What is the opera the cowboy=20 > attends? Turandot. It was very carefully picked for the film, if you know your opera, it all ties together. The music underneath, and of course the plot: "Li=F9 snatches a dagger from one of them and kills herself. The grieving Timur and the crowd follow her body as it is carried away. Turandot remains alone to confront Cal=E0f, who at length takes her in = his arms, forcing her to kiss him. Knowing physical passion for the first=20 time, Turandot weeps. The prince, now sure of his victory, tells her his name. As the people hail the emperor, Turandot approaches his throne, announcing that the stranger's name is - Love" -- from http://www.metopera.org/synopses/turandot.html Watch the film again. The ending is much richer with this background information. Cheers- P... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Masck paul [at] masck.com www.masck.com slave to the misshapen chaos of well-seeming forms ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 07:48:13 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <699140336.20040805074813 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Re: OTR Again In-Reply-To: References: Howdy! Wednesday, August 04, 2004, Chris Babbie wrote about his gerry mandered trip through the midwest: pcn> Anyone along the route that wants to buy me a beer can pop a note pcn> to my addy. And you're not stopping in Indy this weekend for the NASCAR Brickyard 400 or the United States National girls-under-18 Fast Pitch Softball Tournament? Not able to provide any beer, but I'll pop for a Sprite and a Subway (But I get to keep the Subway frequent-buyer stamps...) Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Eastablished 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 07:51:36 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <116719987.20040805075136 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Re[2]: Life Plans In-Reply-To: References: Howdy! Thursday, August 05, 2004, June Abernathy wrote: JA> June Abernathy JA> IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL) JA> B.A. Florida State University JA> FOH Electrician JA> The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle) June, Are you the same great lady that was involved in theatre in Indianapolis some years ago? My goodness...those were the days! Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Eastablished 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 07:56:36 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1232322211.20040805075636 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Re[4]: Israeli rental house info In-Reply-To: References: Howdy! Wednesday, August 04, 2004, Andy Leviss wrote in comment about the role of the "Best Boy": AL> So, apparently, did the leading lady! See why this list is so much fun? If you open your dictionary and look up "Esoteric Humor" you'll find a hyperlink to the Stagecraft Digest! Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Eastablished 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <702C3C94-E6BB-11D8-9EFA-000A95BD64AC [at] earthlink.net> From: Sunil Rajan Subject: Re: Those darn balloon drops Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 04:42:52 -0400 On Aug 2, 2004, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote: > From: "Joe Meils" > > I say we call it a "Producer Malfunction", and use it as an excuse to > curb > freedom of expression in America. It's the "in" thing to do! So, does that mean, when a producer "suggests" something on a show we're designing, that we have a 7 second delay to compensate for the stupidity of the request/suggestion before we respond?! Cheers, Sunil Rajan Freelance Audio Mercenary ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002801c47af1$50c102f0$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Best Boy Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 03:37:11 -1000 >My rationalization for going to school (even though I >am planning to join the union) is that having a >degree, I will know what's going on and >have solid theory behind me before I try to put >things in practice. My experience has shown that you will come out of college "thinking" you know what's going on... solid "theory" and all. Working in the outside, "professional" world will show you what's really going on. It's how you deal with the two worlds that makes you. According to my information, the term "best boy" refers to one's assistant. The head of the department is referred to as "the key", and his number one can be referred to as his "key" or "best boy". The term derives from, when being asked to do something, the gaffer or key grip would say "I'll put my best boy on it". Usually the person is identified within the company as "best boy grip" or "best boy electric". I am currently being killed in the position of "leadman" on the TV series "Hawaii" (http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Primetime_Preview_04_05/new_shows.shtml) which is foreman of the set decorating crew. The name of the position is sometimes changed to "leadperson"., but I have never seen "best girl" or "best person". Leading lady and best boy??? Maybe in a parallel universe... Laters, Paul "I hope I can still play the guitar," Tom fretted. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20040805094759.0441dec0 [at] mail.hstech.org> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:49:03 -0400 From: "Scott C. Parker" Subject: Re: Lightwright layout In-Reply-To: References: I wish our other software creators would use such a system. Vectorworks, SFX, WYSIWYG, etc.... I HATE these dongles! At 05:17 PM 8/4/2004, you wrote: >Actually, I've known some pretty good hackers in my day and they were >unable to get around John's registration coding (purely as an academic >exercise, of course). Scott C. Parker Production Designer/Technical Director High School Tech Production Web Site hstech~AT~hstech.org High Schoolers: come visit the HS Tech Web Site... http://www.hstech.org Our Mission: To assist High School Technical Theater students in their desire to learn about, create, and execute theatrical productions. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41123D9F.4030202 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:01:03 -0500 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: Those darn balloon drops References: In-Reply-To: I think we all have days that we wish the human mind came with a built in seven second delay. Spouse: " Do you think that this looks good on me?" Your Response: -----Insert your own joke here------ Sunil Rajan wrote: > So, does that mean, when a producer "suggests" something on a show > we're designing, that we have a 7 second delay to compensate for the > stupidity of the request/suggestion before we respond?! -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00ba01c47af6$b4cbb8d0$0200a8c0 [at] DESKTOP> From: "Brian Jeffrey" Subject: Celastic and Heat Activated Materials Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:15:48 -0400 Hi- Does anyone by chance still work with, or better yet, know where to obtain that old forming material called "CELASTIC"? Although I'm not a Celastic proponent, since it's activated with nasty solvents, we still get calls from folks looking for it and I'm currently trying to locate a source or see if anyone might have a few sheets squirrled away. For whatever reason, a few people, believe it or not, still don't mind working with solvents despite the availability of our heat activated or thermoformable products like WONDERFLEX and FOSSHAPE that we provide the entertainment industry for a multitude of applications to crafty artisans, Disney theme parks and costumers. Although we could not get any end use details, we shipped a couple hundred sheets of WONDERFLEX to Greece awhile back to be utilized in some fashion for the opening ceremony pageantry that you may see during the upcomming Summer Olympics. Hope this is not blatant advertising, but just wanted to make you aware, if you are not already, of these unique "limited by your imagination" type products. Both products are utilized in producing costumes, props, mascots, animatronics, masks, armor etc. I would be glad to mail you swatches to experiment with if interested. Wonderflex is a thermoplastic available in 39"x57" size sheets, that when heated/formed/molded (hot air gun, hot water, microwave etc.), activates its own built in adhesive. Fosshape sold by the 45" wide yard, oftentimes used for millinery, is a white felt like product, that when exposed to varying degrees of heat (fabric steamer or steam iron) and pressure, you can modify surface textures and densities. Both products save time and labor since no long set-up time and readily accept most artisan paints and coatings for producing lightweight and durable structures. Contact me offline and I would be glad to send along more info and free sample swatches for you to experiment with. You may want to check out our website www.dazian.com for more info as well. Regards, The Thermoman of Dazian Brian Jeffrey b.jeffrey [at] comcast.net ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:38:39 -0500 From: "Phil Johnson" Subject: Re: moon Judy Another option for the flourescents is to get lighting gel in the tube form and dim them using the grey or chocolate gels. You can reduce the amount of light at least a half a stop or more depending on the gel you use. There are other gels with color which should reduce the amount of light output and you might get away without having to buy the dimmer circuit for the flourescents. Rosco and Lee filters will tell you the transmission rates and purpose of their gels in the swatch books. Their factory reps or dealers will be able to give you the specifics. Phil Johnson Texas A& M -Corpus Christi Designer & TD ------------------------------ Subject: Away Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 11:12:26 -0400 I'll be in the UK until 8 September. Anyone coming near Bath who wants to say hi can e-mail at: MartySRQ [at] aol.com Cheers, Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1ea.26ff9aa2.2e43a737 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 11:07:35 EDT Subject: Re: Celastic and Heat Activated Materials In a message dated 8/5/04 7:16:40 AM, b.jeffrey [at] comcast.net writes: << Hi- Does anyone by chance still work with, or better yet, know where to obtain that old forming material called "CELASTIC"? Although I'm not a Celastic proponent, since it's activated with nasty solvents, we still get calls from folks looking for it and I'm currently trying to locate a source or see if anyone might have a few sheets squirrled away. For whatever reason, a few people, believe it or not, still don't mind working with solvents >> doesn't MEK work on Celastic as well as ACETONE ? MEK is fairly "safe" if=20 memory serves me right as for availability, , a quick GOOGLE came up with=20 http://www.atlasortho.com/sub%20Products/Materials/reinforcementmaterials/Ce= la stic.htm#Celastic=F4 seems like it's still there !=20 very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group=20 Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-ID: <297C9E3B63B2D3119C8100508B5ED28F1601FE8D [at] exchange2.ubc.ca> From: "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" Subject: RE: Lightwrite & portfolios Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 08:54:53 -0700 I wouldn't be too concerned about having your university's name on the bottom of your paperwork. Insert your name at the top of the paperwork, along with the theatre, the electrician, director, and your favourite hobby (hmmm, skip that) in the open fields under the page title. These fields can appear on only the first page of the Instrument Sched/Channel Hook-up, etc., or every page. Any one looking at the portfolio doesn't care who owns the program. As an assistant, you could end up using the designers copy (with their name on it), or your own (if you purchase it). Cheers Andrew M. Riter Head Lighting Technician Chan Centre ------------------------------ Message-ID: <297C9E3B63B2D3119C8100508B5ED28F1601FE8E [at] exchange2.ubc.ca> From: "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" Subject: RE: college vs union & Matt G. Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:00:06 -0700 Matt: Good looking ahead. No reason not to do both. You get such a broader experience going to college/university, than if you just freelanced. "that piece of paper" aka the diploma, may open doors later on when looking for full time employment. You meet a wide range of people, take classes outside of theatre (go figure, life does exist outside the black box.) and have something to fall back on while you wait 2-5 years to meet entrance requirements at the local office of the IA. I learned more at residence at university than I did in first year classes (ok, I was sheltered a little bit at high school). Good luck Andrew M. Riter Head Lighting Technician Chan Centre ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41125D5C.4030306 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:16:28 -0500 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: Lightwrite & portfolios References: In-Reply-To: As far as the bottom of the page goes think "White Out " and photo copies. Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg) wrote: >I wouldn't be too concerned about having your university's name on the bottom of your paperwork. Insert your name at the top of the paperwork, along with the theatre, the electrician, director, and your favourite hobby (hmmm, skip that) in the open fields under the page title. These fields can appear on only the first page of the Instrument Sched/Channel Hook-up, etc., or every page. > >Any one looking at the portfolio doesn't care who owns the program. As an assistant, you could end up using the designers copy (with their name on it), or your own (if you purchase it). > > -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <411261B6.50105 [at] syr.edu> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 12:35:02 -0400 From: Dave Bowman Organization: Syracuse Stage/SU Drama Subject: Re: college vs union & Matt G. References: In-Reply-To: Matt et all, Let me take Andrew's words a bit farther.... The "social" aspect of college/university is helpful. For many, it's the first time truly away from home/on their own. My learning to deal with others, I owe a great deal to the wide ranging dynamic of living in the dorms. I can think back and name 1/2 a dozen people on my floor over the years whose personalities I later ran into in my professional life. I now know better how to "deal" with them because of that experience in the dorms in a situation where my next paycheck wasn't on the line. I would also say that you would find other classes/interests that will help shape your career. Where I first started college, the "advisor" at the time (he's no longer there) would question me as to why I wanted a degree if I was "just going to be a technician anyways." I'd like to think that the design classes I took and, more importantly, the management classes I took have made me a better technician/department head. That is not to say that I could not have learned those things getting right into the business, but as others have said, this is what worked for me. It may or may not work for you..... I can also say that here at Syracuse design, stage management, and technical theatre majors (yes, Frank, on this side of the pond there's even a college major for your hated stage manager) take a certain number of classes OUTSIDE of the department. The idea is that in doing so (and not eating, breathing, sleeping theatre 24/7), the student has a more rounded experience. Designs are better due to contact with the outside world, etc.... These classes can either be a smattering of what interests you or you can apply them towards a minor of interest (conveniently most minor require the same number of classes). For stage managers and technicians, we recommend the management minor. For costume designers it may be a fashion minor or an art minor. Bottom line: you must do what feels right for you. There are lifetimes worth of experiences no matter what path you take.... dave B. -- David M. Bowman Syracuse Stage / SU Drama Master Electrician / Adj. Professor dmbowman [at] syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 12:58:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Boyd wrote: > What is the movie... Monty Python and the Holy Grail I think? In the > credits it lists the Best Boy, then after that it says "Worst Boy: Adolf > Hitler." Funny, I was about to mention that same credit line, but you beat me to it. However it was NOT in any Monty Python film. That line was in the closing credits for Airplane Airplane II Naked Gun 2 1/2 and Top Secret! -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:04:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Aug 2004, Bruce Purdy wrote: > However it was NOT in any Monty Python film. Aha. Like they say, the memory is the first thing to go.... or at least I think that's what they say... Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040805191113.27978.qmail [at] web40804.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 12:11:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Wych Subject: Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters In-Reply-To: I have upload the casters to my website for anyone to download. http://www.theatretechie.com/AutoCAD2002-Casters-Accorn-Colson.zip Chris Wych --- Joe wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have 3D blocks for Colson Casters, 3" to 10" as > well as Accorn, 4' to > 12". Some use a "2-D solid with thickness" that is > unique to AutoCAD and > may not translate into other cad systems. But, I > would be happy to share > them. I also have some lighting fixtures, but again > some may not translate > well. > > I recall that there was a web page somewhere > which hosted these kinds of > CAD blocks. Perhaps I should just upload it there. > Anyone have a link to it? > Joe Dunfee joe [at] dunfee.com > Gordonville, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. > > ===== IL State U. Theatre Student a_small_idiot [at] yahoo.com ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ My Theatre Techie Sites: Links- http://www.theatretechie.com Webpage- http://members.aol.com/CPWTCH007/tech.html ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message-ID: <6728517EECE7D511981B00D0B78290310E38CB96 [at] az33exm27.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: Those darn balloon drops Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 12:22:20 -0700 My favorite "I wish I had a 7sec delay brain" story- Wife and I watching Gwen Verdon do her umpteenth Lola when she was about 50. Wife: I hope I look that good when I reach 50. Me: I wish you looked that good now. Hey, I was young and stupid. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Richard Bakos I think we all have days that we wish the human mind came with a built in seven second delay. Spouse: " Do you think that this looks good on me?" Your Response: -----Insert your own joke here------ ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1ac.277f2395.2e43f2ff [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 16:30:55 EDT Subject: Re: Those darn balloon drops In a message dated 8/5/04 4:23:16 PM, Chip.Wood [at] motorola.com writes: << My favorite "I wish I had a 7sec delay brain" story- Wife and I watching Gwen Verdon do her umpteenth Lola when she was about 50. Wife: I hope I look that good when I reach 50. Me: I wish you looked that good now. Hey, I was young and stupid. >> And you lived to tell the story? Either you're very fast or her aim is lousy. Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4112D447.3050508 [at] comcast.net> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 17:43:51 -0700 From: mat goebel Subject: Re: college vs union & Matt G. References: In-Reply-To: Keep in mind all, that the college I'm planning on attending is a 2yr programme for a 4yr technical degree. The is very little GE, though I will be dealing with a lot of other people, and a lot of "talent". http://www.expression.edu/sa Has anyone on the list worked with a graduate from this programme? -- Mat G. Entertainment Technical Services Paramount's Great America "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <010001c47b52$dd2dfd90$6501a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" References: Subject: Re: college vs union & Matt G. Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:15:29 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: "mat goebel" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: Re: college vs union & Matt G. > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Keep in mind all, that the college I'm planning on attending is a 2yr > programme for a 4yr technical degree. The is very little GE, though I > will be dealing with a lot of other people, and a lot of "talent". > > http://www.expression.edu/sa > > Has anyone on the list worked with a graduate from this programme? > Well Matt, the Community College I attend has one of the best equiped theatre programs this side of the Mississippi River, and is staffed by some truely awesome individuals, the trouble is that not many students get to design main stage shows, and I am hoping for my chance this year. I am planning a transfer to San Diego State University this year, and from a technical standpoint they are just as well setup as the community college is, however, if it's live audio you want to do, I am not familiar with too many places, that do have a good live audio, particularly in my neck of the woods. Cheers to you Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 00:17:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Lightwrite & portfolios From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > As far as the bottom of the page goes think "White Out " and photo copies. >> Any one looking at the portfolio doesn't care who owns the program Don't be too sure about that - most professional designers have Lightwright, and know that there *should* be a name at the bottom of the page. Having it whited out is something of a red flag that you're trying to hide something. This happens occasionally at the union exam, and it immediately puts the judges in "hmm..." mode because it makes them wonder if you bootlegged the software - which if true, would make you less than trustworthy. Usually they wind up asking the applicant about it. If it's a student printing from the university's copy, that's fine - (so long as you hadn't yet graduated when you did the printing...) If you did the work while you were in school, then be proud of it! Your resume is going to say you did the show there anyway, why try to hide it? - John ------------------------------ === john2004 [at] mckernon.com ==== ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #93 ****************************