Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4180452; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 03:00:22 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #105 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 03:00:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, SAVE_MONEY autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #105 1. Re: Drop Rental by "CATHERINE BRUMM" 2. Re: Drop Rental by "Jonathan Wills" 3. Used Lighting Instruments by "Cartwright, Kenneth" 4. Re: Congratulations by "Paul Guncheon" 5. Looking for sound materials for BLEACHER BUMS by "Jim Trenberth" 6. Sound Position Announcement by CB 7. Re: Sound Position Announcement by "Douglas McCracken" 8. Wildfire fixtures by usctd [at] columbia.sc 9. Wildfire fixtures by usctd [at] columbia.sc 10. Wildfire fixtures by usctd [at] columbia.sc 11. Mackie or not by "Dotson, Shelley M." 12. Re: Mackie or not by "Immel,Patrick" 13. Re: Mackie or not by Chris Warner 14. Re: Sound Position Announcement by "Andrew Vance" 15. Re: Anti Cellular wallpaper by "Tony Deeming" 16. Re: Lion King by "Tony Deeming" 17. Re: evacuation by "Tony Deeming" 18. Model Lighting / Mini Light Lab by "Immel,Patrick" 19. Re: CAD vs. Hand by Stuart Wheaton 20. Re: Model Lighting / Mini Light Lab by "Scott C. Parker" 21. Re: Mackie or not by mat goebel 22. Membership in IATSE local 107 by mat goebel 23. Re: Sound Position Announcement by "John Gibilisco" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:01:11 -0400 From: "CATHERINE BRUMM" Subject: Re: Drop Rental There is also Charles Stewart which is www.charleshtewart.com Catherine K. Brumm, General Manager Minnie Evans Arts Center Wilmington, NC P910-)790-2360 x821 F)910-790-2356 cbrumm [at] nhcs.k12.nc.us www.geocities.com/nhcscbrumm/index.html >>> jonares [at] hevanet.com 08/16/04 06:36PM >>> > The archives search isnt working so can anyone list some websites with > online catalogues for drops besides grosh. Thanks Google is your friend. ...up come a dozen great companies such as Kenmark, Tobins Lake, Cobalt Studios, and of course Grosh. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200408171223.i7HCNDJM027153 [at] smtp-mtc05.proxy.aol.com> From: "Jonathan Wills" Subject: Re: Drop Rental Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:22:56 -0400 Organization: Jonathan Wills Rob, I have used: Tobins Lake www.Tobinslake.com Charles H Stewart www.CharlesHStewart.com Schell Scenic www.Schellscenic.com (have to download catalog) These are all I can think of off the top of my head. I am also in the search for a backdrop so I now there are more. Thank you, Jonathan Wills Wills Lighting and Stage www.WillsLighting.com 423.432.8082 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 8/11/2004 ------------------------------ Subject: Used Lighting Instruments Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:22:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cartwright, Kenneth" Hello, I am Ken Cartwright and I am the Technical Director at Saint John's University in Minnesota. I have several lighting instruments that haven't been used in a while, that I would like to sell. They are all in good condition. 10 - 6x9 Strand Century 2209 11 - 6x12 Strand Century 2212 19 - 6x16 Strand Century 2216 5 - 40 degree Strand Lekolite 8 - 6x9 Altman 1kL6-40 12 - 6x22 Altman 360Q I also have a Strand GSX lightboard, 150 pin-out 3 pin twist male newer style connectors, and 125 pin-out 3 pin twist female newer style connectors for sale. If you are interested in any of these, contact me off list at; Ken Cartwright kcartwright [at] csbsju.edu 320-363-3312 Thanks, Ken ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000d01c48462$ba240240$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Congratulations Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 04:01:42 -1000 < August 14, 2004 1:18 AM 7lb 9oz 19 1/2" Noah & Heather>> <> Oh yeah? I was born on the same day as MY birthday. How's that for coincidence? What? Oh... Congratulations indeed. Try and get some sleep. The adventure has begun. Laters, Paul "I love Velveeta," Tom said craftily. ------------------------------ From: "Jim Trenberth" Subject: Looking for sound materials for BLEACHER BUMS Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:20:54 -0500 Message-ID: Iowa State University Theatre will be presenting BLEACHER BUMS September 24- October 3. I am looking for an existing sound design for the production. If you have any leads or are willing to rent this material please contact me OFFLIST at jtrenber [at] iastate.edu Thanks ******************************************** The way to capture a student's attention is with a demonstration where there is a possibility the teacher will die. Jewel Walker Jim Trenberth Production Manager/Lighting Designer Iowa State University Theatre (515)268-8903(H) (515)294-0192(O)(515)294-2652 FAX jtrenber [at] iastate.edu www.theatre.iastate.edu ******************************************** ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040817101550.0182d5c8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:15:50 From: CB Subject: Sound Position Announcement >Sound Designer/Engineer/Assistant Electrician Assistant Electrician? This is really a joke, right? You have your sound designer working for your ME when they hang and focus? Just curious, what are the lighting designer and the set designer doing when this happens? Does the director help in the hang too, or are they busy sweeping the lobby. Look, I'm all for everyone helping everyone. but putting the designer/engineer in another dept's. labor pool is really giving him a hard time establishing any real credibility. I am not a rank and file type of guy, but this is really a bit silly. I guess it simply reflects the present paradygm's view of sound, and you're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem. Any "Sound Designer" that would take this gig under these circumstances is either the nicest guy you ever want to meet, (yeah, right) or he has no other options. I wouldn't bet the house on his credentials or his product. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: "Douglas McCracken" Subject: RE: Sound Position Announcement Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:51:23 -1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > -----Original Message----- > Look, I'm all for everyone helping everyone. but putting the > designer/engineer in another dept's. labor pool is really > giving him a hard time establishing any real credibility. I > am not a rank and file type of guy, but this is really a bit > silly. I guess it simply reflects the present paradygm's > view of sound, and you're either part of the solution or > you're part of the problem. This just perpetuates the white glove sound engineer stereotype. And video is right behind them. You don't even give the institution credit for putting the job description up front. Most would just tell you after your employment begins. ("Oh, by the way...") And I would think that a sound person who could work LX would give them MORE credibility. As a person who can work as a team. Don't get me wrong. I have a lot of respect for Audio Engineers and their skills. But, come on. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2081.129.252.241.105.1092768050.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Wildfire fixtures From: usctd [at] columbia.sc Anybody out there willing to rent four wildfire instruments for a reasonable (uh, read cheap) amount? Right now we are looking at $900 per to RENT. They cost almost as much to purchase. Looking for the 250W versions. Please contact off list. -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2087.129.252.241.105.1092768121.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Wildfire fixtures From: usctd [at] columbia.sc Anybody out there willing to rent four wildfire instruments for a reasonable (uh, read cheap) amount? Right now we are looking at $900 per to RENT. They cost almost as much to purchase. Looking for the 250W versions. Please contact off list. -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2088.129.252.241.105.1092768124.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Wildfire fixtures From: usctd [at] columbia.sc Anybody out there willing to rent four wildfire instruments for a reasonable (uh, read cheap) amount? Right now we are looking at $900 per to RENT. They cost almost as much to purchase. Looking for the 250W versions. Please contact off list. -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Subject: Mackie or not Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:00:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dotson, Shelley M." I am in the process of getting a new sound board for Leach Theatre at the University of Missouri. We currently have a Mackie 24*8 and I was looking at replacing it with a similar model, since I have always had good luck with Mackie products in the past (the board I have right now is about 10 years old and just needs to be sent out to pasture) - but I have heard many others condemn Mackie. Can anyone share some of their positive/negative experiences with Mackie products with me and perhaps suggest a different - simple and user friendly board that may be better. Since I work mostly with non-theatre major student (UMR does not offer a theatre major) the simpler the board, the easier my life is going to be when training students. Thanks in advance for your help. Shelley Dotson Production Manager/Technical Director Leach Theatre, University of Missouri - Rolla 118a Castleman Hall=20 Rolla, MO 65409 573-341-6365 =20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE39011EDC5FD [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu> From: "Immel,Patrick" Subject: RE: Mackie or not Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:20:06 -0500 Hi Shelley, I we have a Mackie 24*8 at Northwest Missouri State University and I love it. Is it the most technologically advanced board in the world? No. But, in my opinion, it is an excellent basic sound board. It has not given us any problems and we have been using it pretty hard for the past 6 years. We only use its most basic function, so any more of a board would be Superfluous. In addition to our departmental shows, our theatre also hosts many touring productions as well as concerts (rock, country, ie). When I purchased the board I new that, because everyone has such wide tastes regarding sound boards, we would probably need to rent for outside groups or they would bring their own! So it boils down to how you use your space! HTH, Patrick Immel Lighting and Scenic designer Northwest Missouri State University -----Original Message----- From: Dotson, Shelley M. To: Stagecraft Sent: 8/17/2004 3:00 PM Subject: Mackie or not For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I am in the process of getting a new sound board for Leach Theatre at the University of Missouri. We currently have a Mackie 24*8 and I was looking at replacing it with a similar model, since I have always had good luck with Mackie products in the past (the board I have right now is about 10 years old and just needs to be sent out to pasture) - but I have heard many others condemn Mackie. Can anyone share some of their positive/negative experiences with Mackie products with me and perhaps suggest a different - simple and user friendly board that may be better. Since I work mostly with non-theatre major student (UMR does not offer a theatre major) the simpler the board, the easier my life is going to be when training students. Thanks in advance for your help. Shelley Dotson Production Manager/Technical Director Leach Theatre, University of Missouri - Rolla 118a Castleman Hall Rolla, MO 65409 573-341-6365 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20040817151150.00a1c2a0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:15:05 -0700 From: Chris Warner Subject: Re: Mackie or not In-Reply-To: At 03:00 PM 8/17/04 -0500, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > > >I am in the process of getting a new sound board for Leach Theatre at >the University of Missouri. We currently have a Mackie 24*8 and I was >looking at replacing it with a similar model, since I have always had >good luck with Mackie products in the past (the board I have right now >is about 10 years old and just needs to be sent out to pasture) - but I >have heard many others condemn Mackie. Can anyone share some of their >positive/negative experiences with Mackie products with me and perhaps >suggest a different - simple and user friendly board that may be better. >Since I work mostly with non-theatre major student (UMR does not offer a >theatre major) the simpler the board, the easier my life is going to be >when training students. Thanks in advance for your help. If I were to make a suggestion it would be to go with a Yamaha Digital console, if you can come up with the approximately 2200 to purchase one, not knowing all the ins and outs of your applications, It might be too much/Too little for you needs. Not having touched the 01 series since the original promix (and I have to say, that board was a dream to operate for me), it might not fit your needs, yet, if you take a look you might find that the scene system, and the general operation can be pretty easy taught. My .02 Chris Warner ------------------------------ Message-ID: <024801c484af$41cdb500$0500000a [at] anneb> From: "Andrew Vance" References: Subject: Re: Sound Position Announcement Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:09:31 -0500 Somewhere in Arizona, Mr. Babbie wrote: > Assistant Electrician? This is really a joke, right? Its not. I knew somebody would throw their two cents in about this = because we re-hash it every time a similar position is advertised. Some theatres [and colleges and whatever] are not blessed enough to have = all the funds available to structure themselves in the ideal way. Is = having our sound person help me out when needed ideal? No its not, and = I'll be the first to admit it. Is it better than the current situation? = Yes. Do my crew or I help out sound when needed? Yes. I'd rather = have our sound person just doing sound and I'd have enough people in my = department so they wouldn't have to help out. I know its not the ideal = situation to have your focus split between two fields and to shift = between them, but the reality of things now [and I'm sure this applies = to other places as well] is that there is crossover between departments. = Doesn't always make all of us happy, but sometimes its what needs to be = done. I don't think I've worked at one theatre where one department = hasn't helped out another when needed. > Just curious, what are the lighting designer and the set designer = doing when this happens? Not that I feel I have to justify it, but our lighting designer [me for = the most part] is right there hanging lights every show; our production = manager, technical director, and scenic artist all design shows for us = because they choose to. Does that make me [or any of them] any less = credible as a designer? I don't think so; its the nature of the company = I work for. If I felt it made me less credible, I don't think I would = have accepted my position years ago. Anyone reading the ad who doesn't = want to help out another department won't apply. As someone said, we = like team players here. =20 FYI, I have the utmost respect for sound folk. No matter how many times = they explain how they're routing the signal from A to B, processors, = compressors, and matrixes I still can't manage to retain, let alone = understand, any of it. I think I have the same blank look on my face as = Omaha third graders do when you try and explain lighting to them. And no offense meant, Chris. I agree its not ideal, but its what we've = got to work with so we make the best of it. I'll still ship you some = Leinies next time my aunt and uncle make the trip down there. [Assuming = you want some, that is.] -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer/Supervisor Omaha Theatre Company/Omaha Theatre Ballet ------------------------------ Message-ID: <02ad01c484c2$5c5cbd40$0000fea9 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: Anti Cellular wallpaper Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:26:17 +0100 Only problem is that you'd then have to get an aerial and a cell repeater installed for your own phone to work during downtime! Ynot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark O'Brien" To: "Stagecraft" Cc: "Mark O'Brien" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 7:58 PM Subject: Anti Cellular wallpaper > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I saw something this morning (tomorrow morning) In the Sydney Morning > Herald, tech section http://www.smh.com.au/ > that described wallpaper that passively would block cellular, and Wi-Fi > signals. > > How 'bout we paper the town? > > Mark O'Brien > Opera Technical Director > University of Arizona, School of Music > Tucson, AZ > 520/621-7025 > 520/591-1803 Mobile > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <037701c484c4$25ca7c20$0000fea9 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: Lion King Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:39:05 +0100 I could have sat and watched the opening number all night - fantastic start to a show, even if I did sit and figure out how it worked (and how I could plagiarise the type of some of the effects used!!) Ynot ----- Original Message ----- From: "mat goebel" To: "Stagecraft" Cc: "theatre sound" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:03 AM Subject: Lion King > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Who's seen the lion king? I'm going on my birthday (20 August), and want > to know if there's any specific absolutely amazing thing to look out > for? So far I've hear mentions of the sunrise and stampede scenes. Being > a sound guy, I'm especially excited to experience Tony Meola's sound > design. Is anyone on the list working the show? > > -- > Mat G. > Entertainment Technical Services > Paramount's Great America > "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln." > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <03d801c484c6$25a52ef0$0000fea9 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: evacuation Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:53:24 +0100 Holidaying in the Mouse's home as I was last week with my family, we found ourselves smack bang in the path of ol' Charley! Watched the impending havoc approaching on the TV, kept a close eye on things as it moved around us. It was quite surreal at times - in the early stages quite a few curious bodies (self included, I have to admit) braved the growing winds on the balconies of the hotel (only 2 storeys high) to watch the effects, but as the eye approached, we all sensibly retreated to the safety of the solidly built rooms! The Disney area itself seemed to get away extremely lightly - the organised precautions seemingly rather effective. Yes, many trees were uprooted or snapped, a fair number of signs alongside the roads were conspicuous by their absence, but very little structural damage was obvious. Downtown Disney was the most evident spot that showed scars - a couple of smashed window panes on the AMC theater, whilst the Cirque du Soleil suffered the loss of most of it's distinctive white sails around the building - I counted only 2 remaining. It was an experience I'm in some ways glad I had, (based on the fact I was in a solid and safe environment) though one I'm not sure I'd care to repeat - certainly not in a lesser environment - the Fort Wilderness camp/RV site was evacuated to our hotel, so the car park was crammed with huge RV's parked sideways! Ynot ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: evacuation > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > thanks for everyone's good wishes, , > > as I am sure you know CHARLEY took a right hand turn and has devestated Punta > Gorda and Arcadia in particular. > > my heart and best wishes go out to those folks, from what I have seen on > television it looks pretty bad, a classic case of "there but for the grace of god > go I" > > thanks again, , , > > my question is now, , do I leave the tape and boards on my windows ? there > looks like another storm coming on the same path ! ! > > very best, > > Keith Arsenault > President > IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group > Tampa, Florida > > 813 831 3465 Mr. Arsenault's Office > 813 205 0893 Mr. Arsenault's Cellular > > www.iaeginc.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE39011EDC5FE [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu> From: "Immel,Patrick" Subject: Model Lighting / Mini Light Lab Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:06:26 -0500 I am putting together a grant for funds to purchase or build a mini light lab. I want something big enough to light a 1/2" scale model. The last couple of years at the USITT conference, there has been a table with a setup which used fiber optics. Does anybody have any more information on this fiber setup? Has anybody created a home built unit? Thanks in advance, Patrick Immel Northwest Missouri State University ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4122BD17.9010105 [at] fuse.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 22:21:11 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: CAD vs. Hand References: In-Reply-To: Paul Guncheon wrote: > I agree that some things must be dimensioned. What I > disagree with is that EVERYTHING must be dimensioned and that NO ONE should > EVER have put a SCALE RULE to a DRAWING. OK, you win, you caught me with the everything game. Here's a better way to phrase it. When drafting in normal theatrical scales, like 1/2"=1'-0" it is impossible to scale more accurately than 1/2", quarter inches can be guessed at, anything more precise is pure fantasy. Even at 3"=1'-0" you can only get to 1/8" accuracy. Almost every carpenter should be able to work more precisely than these limits. In most scales the thickness of the lines you are measuring between (in scale) is larger than the accuracy the carpenter is capable of achieving. If the draftsperson desires greater accuracy than this, the dimension must be provided in some way, or the drawing needs to be in huge scales. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20040817223708.04cdbec0 [at] mail.hstech.org> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 22:37:27 -0400 From: "Scott C. Parker" Subject: Re: Model Lighting / Mini Light Lab In-Reply-To: References: http://www.seelightbox.com hth. Scott Scott C. Parker Production Designer/Technical Director High School Tech Production Web Site hstech~AT~hstech.org High Schoolers: come visit the HS Tech Web Site... http://www.hstech.org Our Mission: To assist High School Technical Theater students in their desire to learn about, create, and execute theatrical productions. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4122C7B4.2060908 [at] comcast.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 20:06:28 -0700 From: mat goebel Subject: Re: Mackie or not References: In-Reply-To: I will give you my professional experience with several different brands in a theme parks settings. Mackie stuff has given me a lot of headaches. I have a 1604 that has been sent in multiple times for repair, but the stereo bus is still not 100%. Its only 4 years old. I have three SR2404s that each have their own sets of problems. The one most recently taken out of service was averaging the loss of a channel every week. Luckily the show only used about 8 channels. Dirty, crackly, low quality garbage sound all around. Granted, these boards have been through a lotof use and even more ABuse. The current favourite is the allen and heath mixwiz. Nearly identical in configuration, only it has two semi-parametric EQs, and boy are they worth it. Much better electronics two, stuff just plain sounds better coming through it. Tough to get used to the fischer-price colour scheme, though. We just got a Yamaha 02R96 this season. Very very nice board. Superlative sound quality and functionality - but the biggest pain in the [at] $$ ever to try and get anything done on. Would definately not reccomend it for live mixing. It's very complicated and takes a lot of getting used to. Things are not always just a grab away, you might find yourself in the wrong scene/layer/patch/etc. The upshot, though, it can do almost anything without the need for outboard gear. Since you've asked for a "basic" console, I would reccomend one of the smaller consoles from allen and heath. If you want to kick it up a notch in quality, perhaps consider soundcraft - but its a big price jump. -- Mat G. Entertainment Technical Services Paramount's Great America "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4122D549.1050005 [at] comcast.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:04:25 -0700 From: mat goebel Cc: THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM (theatre sound) Subject: Membership in IATSE local 107 Does anyone have any contact information for local 107? I've been trying to talk to someone about membership or overhire or something, but no one has returned any phone calls or emails from the information available on their website. Thanks in advance. -- Mat G. Entertainment Technical Services Paramount's Great America "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003f01c484ee$b731e5c0$0200a8c0 [at] om.cox.net> From: "John Gibilisco" References: Subject: Re: Sound Position Announcement Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:43:47 -0500 CB wrote: > >Sound Designer/Engineer/Assistant Electrician > Assistant Electrician? This is really a joke, right? No. No joke here in Omaha. We call it "working" doing something we want to do. I have no problem with The Omaha Children Theater's job post. I agree that it is difficult to concentrate and do a good job with audio while hanging lights. I know, I've done it for 17 years for the Omaha Playhouse. I really don't think of my position as joke. > Any "Sound Designer" that would take this gig under these circumstances is > either the nicest guy you ever want to meet, (yeah, right) or he has no > other options. Glad to hear there are plenty of options in Arizona. I don't imagine you will be applying for this job! The OCT is really a great company. And they get to work in an incredible space. I am sure whomever takes the position will be grateful and probably one of the nicest gal or guy you would ever want to meet. > I wouldn't bet the house on his credentials or his product. Your right. The product will not be as good while time is shared. But lets get real. This is the best the company can do. It is not a matter of a producer trying to save money. It will be a great job for the right person. Count your blessings Chris. Best, John Gibilisco ----- Original Message ----- From: "CB" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: Sound Position Announcement > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >Sound Designer/Engineer/Assistant Electrician > > Assistant Electrician? This is really a joke, right? You have your sound > designer working for your ME when they hang and focus? Just curious, what > are the lighting designer and the set designer doing when this happens? > Does the director help in the hang too, or are they busy sweeping the lobby. > Look, I'm all for everyone helping everyone. but putting the > designer/engineer in another dept's. labor pool is really giving him a hard > time establishing any real credibility. I am not a rank and file type of > guy, but this is really a bit silly. I guess it simply reflects the > present paradygm's view of sound, and you're either part of the solution or > you're part of the problem. > Any "Sound Designer" that would take this gig under these circumstances is > either the nicest guy you ever want to meet, (yeah, right) or he has no > other options. I wouldn't bet the house on his credentials or his product. > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ > > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #105 *****************************