Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4321648; Sat, 04 Sep 2004 03:00:44 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #122 Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 03:00:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4 X-Spam-Level: X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #122 1. tour bus by b Ricie 2. Best "entry" moving lights by Dactyldude [at] aol.com 3. Re: tour bus by "Hofmann, Christopher" 4. Re: tour bus by "C. Andrew Dunning" 5. Re: Best "entry" moving lights by "Randy Whitcomb" 6. Wenger choir risers by Shawn Palmer 7. Re: moving light by Stephen Litterst 8. Re: moving light (Auto Yoke) by Shawn Palmer 9. Cheseborough ratings by Michael Heinicke 10. Re: Cheseborough ratings by Bsapsis [at] aol.com *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <20040903143959.97534.qmail [at] web50606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 07:39:58 -0700 (PDT) From: b Ricie Subject: tour bus In-Reply-To: Can anyone give me the skinny on tour buses? I know it is a sleeper, but I am not sure if it will have things like bedding or more importantly a coffee maker. If you have toured on a bus and could give some wisdom on how to be more comfortable while doing so, it would be most appreciated. ===== Brian Rice b_ricie [at] yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 12:54:21 -0400 From: Dactyldude [at] aol.com Subject: Best "entry" moving lights Message-ID: <6932072A.20B2A603.0AC570E3 [at] aol.com> Hi, I recently have taken a new job as Arts Director at a new highschool auditorium, they have a new ETV Express board, and have equipped it with ETC source 4 lights and 8 inch fresnels onstage. I'd like to add possibly 4-6 moving lights to the inventory so the kids get a chance to see them, and use them. What would be a good entry level intelligent light to look at purchasing? personally I'd like an instrument that has full color and half color, full gobo wheel, strobing, iris, dimming, etc etc. If anyone can give me some opinions, and where I can look for best prices that would be great. Thanks Dan ------------------------------ Subject: RE: tour bus Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:55:37 -0400 Message-ID: <56439B09A4ADDC46876BDFF2BBD35DF001C17484 [at] ex1.capecod.edu> From: "Hofmann, Christopher" > If you have toured on a bus and could give some wisdom on > how to be more comfortable while doing so, it would be > most appreciated. No matter what your business, always sit down when using the lavatory. You never know when that pot hole will creep up. - Chris =20 Creativity is the inability to follow someone else's rules. - Cliff Stoll ------------------------------ From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: RE: tour bus Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:30:23 -0500 Organization: Landru Design In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brian - In your bunk, you should expect to find a sheeted mattress, a comforter, and a pillow. It will also have a reading light and an AC vent. The bunk will have a curtain. Some bunks have small flip-down TVs. Plan on sleeping w. your feet toward the front of the bus. (I usually try to get a middle bunk. Less road noise and I'm too tall for most top bunks.) Plan on dressing for bed in layers. Most of the busses I've been on have been kept nice and chilly. After all, it is much easier to put on sweats if you are cold than it is take something else off if you're sitting there in nothing but your shorts and are too warm. Depending on the age of your particular bus, you will find an ice-box and/or refrigerator, a microwave, and (yes) a coffee maker. Some organizations stock their busses w. food and drinks before an outing. W. others you will need to bring your own. It is rather common in Nashville to meet one's bus in the parking lot of a grocery store. Getting stuff there is pretty convenient. The lounges will have TVs, stereos, and DVD players/VCRs. Many busses these days also have satellite service. Some busses will have movies. Others will come bare. Don't plan on being allowed to take anything into the bus other than what you want with you in your bunk. Some organizations/road folk (especially crew members) are fairly militant about not wanting other people's stuff lying around the bus. Bays are there for everything else. I've seen things that were left out hidden and/or thrown away. If you wake up, the bus is stopped and you don't see the driver, there is no-one else up, and you need to get off for some reason, leave something on his/her seat to let him/her know that you're not in your bunk. Otherwise, you run the risk of being stranded. One last thing. This is not pleasant, but is a reality. NO SOLIDS IN THE TOILETS. You'll need to let the driver know if you need to stop. Have fun! C. Andrew Dunning Landru Design - Nashville, TN - cad [at] landrudesign.com www.landrudesign.com >Can anyone give me the skinny on tour buses? I know it is a >sleeper, but I am not sure if it will have things like bedding >or more importantly a coffee maker. If you have toured on a >bus and could give some wisdom on how to be more comfortable >while doing so, it would be most appreciated. > >===== >Brian Rice >b_ricie [at] yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000701c491d9$0866c4a0$ac5b0918 [at] attbi.com> From: "Randy Whitcomb" References: Subject: Re: Best "entry" moving lights Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:11:19 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- From: > I recently have taken a new job as Arts Director at a new highschool auditorium, they have a new ETV Express board, and have equipped it with ETC source 4 lights and 8 inch fresnels onstage. I'd like to add possibly 4-6 moving lights to the inventory so the kids get a chance to see them, and use them. What would be a good entry level intelligent light to look at purchasing? personally I'd like an instrument that has full color and half color, full gobo wheel, strobing, iris, dimming, etc etc. > > If anyone can give me some opinions, and where I can look for best prices that would be great. I've had 2 High End StudioSpot 250's in my school for 4 years now. We are using HogPC for control. These are the only robotic lights I have experience with, but I have been very happy with them. I find their operation to be pretty straight forward with easy access to color and gobo wheels. Last May we used one "live" as our TinkerBell for "Peter Pan" I've been finding Production Advantage pretty hard to beat on prices. www.proadv.com Randy Whitcomb, TD Price Civic Aud. Loveland, CO. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4138B66B.708 [at] northnet.net> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 13:22:35 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Wenger choir risers References: In-Reply-To: Apologies in advance for the commercial nature of this post. I have ten used Wenger three step choir risers. They are the brownish-orange variety. I am looking to sell them. They are in good condition and are ready to use right away. I may try eBay, but they might get lost- there isn't much in the way of risers or staging on there. If anyone would be interested please contact me off list. I'd also be interested in opinions of their worth. Thanks, Shawn Palmer Neenah, WI USA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 15:17:42 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: moving light Message-id: <3f88540f77.40f773f885 [at] ithaca.edu> ----- Original Message ----- From: Chad Croteau Date: Thursday, September 2, 2004 6:17 pm Subject: Re: moving light > ---------------------------- > Have you looked into the AutoYoke? It basically takes a standards > SourceFour and turns it into a moving head instrument. You can > also get various > add-ons (iris, gobo rotator, gel scroller, etc.) to make it more > versatile.You can check it out at www.citytheatrical.com. Have to > admit from the > get-go that I've never priced these units... Can't tell you how > much they'd > cost, or if it's in your price range... > Last time I priced AutoYokes, the whole package costs about as much as an average Moving Light. Steve L Stephen Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College, Dept of Theatre Arts 607.274.34947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4138C57F.4090900 [at] northnet.net> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:26:55 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: moving light (Auto Yoke) References: In-Reply-To: > Last time I priced AutoYokes, the whole package costs about as much as > an average Moving Light. > > Steve L > Agreed. And it is still that expensive. I like City Theatrical's stuff, but man are they pricey. I know you get what you pay for, but you can get a small followspot for less than the Source 4 spot accessories, you can get a real moving light for less than the AutoYoke and accessories, and I can make about 150 fifty-five gallon drum dry ice foggers for the price of one Aqua Fogger. The math doesn't compute, for me at least. Shawn Palmer Neenah, WI USA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040903194942.12804.qmail [at] web81710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:49:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Cheseborough ratings In-Reply-To: Can anyone tell me if Cheseborough clamps are rated, and if so what they are rated at? Thanks, Mike H ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <145.32be77f2.2e6a4a9a [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 18:30:50 EDT Subject: Re: Cheseborough ratings In a message dated 9/3/04 3:50:26 PM, mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net writes: >Can anyone tell me if cheeseboro clamps are rated, >and if so what they are rated at? Standard, off the shelf, "cheeseboro" type clamps are not rated for anything. They were designed to position pipes in a structure, not actually carry load. There are plenty of pipe clamps somewhat similar in design that are rated. Check with the manufacturer. Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #122 *****************************