Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4485736; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:02:04 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #140 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:01:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #140 1. Projections . . . Help! by Brian Hatfield 2. Re: IR Video systems by Ron Cargile 3. Re: Projections . . . Help! by James Feinberg 4. Re: Projections . . . Help! by "Tony Deeming" 5. pipe storage by James Feinberg 6. World's second longest burning lamp -- theatre mention by Mat Goebel 7. Re: IR Video systems by "Michael Finney" 8. Re: pipe storage by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 9. Re: [spamcatcher] Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol (SFX) by Jerry Durand 10. Re: [spamcatcher] Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol (SFX) by Stephen Litterst 11. Re: [spamcatcher] Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol (SFX) by Charlie Richmond 12. Re: IR Video systems by Michael Feinberg 13. Re: [spamcatcher] Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol (SFX) by Stephen Litterst 14. Re: Simple set realization software? by Paul Masck 15. Re: pipe storage by Greg Bierly 16. Re: pipe storage by Greg Bierly 17. Web Pages by "Chris Summers" 18. Re: Semi trailer questions by Greg Persinger 19. Re: Projections . . . Help! by Dale Farmer 20. Re: Simple set realization software? by "Jon Ares" 21. Re: Projections . . . Help! by Charlie Richmond *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <20040921133021.7101.qmail [at] web81001.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 06:30:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hatfield Subject: Projections . . . Help! In-Reply-To: We are putting together a show which calls for multiple projections. Is there away which you can control multiple projectors from a single computer? Thanks Brian Hatfield ===== I took the road less traveled now where the heck am I? ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20040921091928.01b46b18 [at] pop.uci.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:24:38 -0700 From: Ron Cargile Subject: re: IR Video systems Steve L. said: >We're beginning the install of our new video systems and noticed that >we (I) neglected to get IR emitters for our FOH Ir camera. Does >anyone have Ir emitters that they love and would recommend (or that >they hate and wouldn't recommend)? Even though it's not specifically invisible to the eye, what I do if my cameras need a bit of a boost it put a couple of cuts of R27 in a relatively low powered stage fixture. It doesn't read to the eye unless you look at the fixture, but the cameras love it. I once put about 9 cuts in a 50w MR-16 fixture and while the room looked unlit to the eye, even after allowing plenty of time to adjust, on camera the stage looked like it was lit with a searchlight. From stage the fixture looked like a somewhat brighter than normal spotting light. I haven't used any IR emitters, but I hope this helps anyway. ....Ron __________ Ron Cargile Electrics & Audio Supervisor Claire Trevor School of the Arts University of California, Irvine (949) 824-4031 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200409211713.i8LHDQ8r012922 [at] gryphon.auspice.net> Subject: Re: Projections . . . Help! Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:13:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Brian Hatfield" at Sep 21, 2004 06:30:21 AM From: James Feinberg On a lark, I found this: http://officeone.mvps.org/powershow/powershow.html It seems to let you run multiple Powerpoint slide shows on multiple monitors (or projectors), which sounds like what you want to do. I've never used it, but I'd assume (I know, I know...) that you'd just need a powerful machine with multiple video cards. If you want the same display on all of the projectors, then you probably just need a suitable video splitter. Extron comes to mind as a reputable manufacturer for that. Hope this helps, --James Feinberg University of San Diego > --------------------------------------------------- > > We are putting together a show which calls for > multiple projections. Is there away which you can > control multiple projectors from a single computer? > > Thanks > Brian Hatfield ------------------------------ Message-ID: <01eb01c49fff$f442c570$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: Projections . . . Help! Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:25:11 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Feinberg" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Projections . . . Help! > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > On a lark, I found this: > http://officeone.mvps.org/powershow/powershow.html > > It seems to let you run multiple Powerpoint slide shows on multiple > monitors (or projectors), which sounds like what you want to do. > > I've never used it, but I'd assume (I know, I know...) that you'd just > need a powerful machine with multiple video cards. > > If you want the same display on all of the projectors, then you > probably just need a suitable video splitter. Extron comes to mind as > a reputable manufacturer for that. > > Hope this helps, > --James Feinberg Yep - that's about the size of it. Multiple video cards. Win 2K and Win XP (I think) will auto-handle more than one card, but I suspect it would be wise to look at some software that will let you switch between outputs etc at will. We did this for an Xmas show last year, but I wasn't directly involved in the video - one of my guys dealt with that end of things. Ynot ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200409211821.i8LILZT1013455 [at] gryphon.auspice.net> Subject: pipe storage Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:21:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Ron Cargile" at Sep 21, 2004 09:24:38 AM From: James Feinberg I have what may be a silly question about steel pipe. At my theatre, we have a small collection of 1.5" schedule 40 steel pipe in lengths up to 21 feet. They're currently stored lying down. In order to make them more accessible (and to free up that floor space), I'm considering a vertical storage solution that would basically involve leaning them in a corner (with adequate chains, etc., to keep them from falling over). My question is, do I need to worry about the pipe bowing or warping under it's own weight, since it will effectively only be supported at the two ends? Now that I've written it out, this seems silly, but I'm going to ask it anyway. It would really suck to think it was fine and then to discover that all of my pipe was bowed after six months. Thanks! --James Feinberg ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:12:06 -0700 From: Mat Goebel Subject: World's second longest burning lamp -- theatre mention In case anyone is interested. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=3&u=/nm/20040921/od_nm/odd_lightbulb_dc -- Mat Goebel Entertainment Technical Services Paramount's Great America Cell: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: IR Video systems Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:14:43 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Michael Finney" On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Stephen Litterst wrote: <> Hey there, Steve: I've had good luck with emitters from a company called Cantronic Systems. Rugged enough for full time operation, and pretty darned cost effective. Web site is: http://www.almexltd.com/Cantronic/illuminators.htm I think you can still order directly from the company. There are couple of "home user" sites that also sell IR emitters - both smarthome.com and hometech.com usually have a decent selection. Most of them will be sized for smaller spaces, and shorter throws but they're a decent "gotta have it now" source (they also sell systems that would work for smaller stage areas for anybody else looking to go to IR monitors). One other cool set of toys - the guys at Photonlight make a whole bunch of cool, small LED flashlights (my favoured LED keychain light is a Photon - and we've started issuing them to our Urban SAR boys here by the handful so they always have a flashlight/strobe on their persons). One of their new additions is a couple of IR illuminators in "flashlight size" (including a single LED keychain model). Really, really cool for marking individual elements in an IR environment and making those individual elements really, really stand out. Like, fer instance, marking the pipe ends on a piece that's flying in in black (cause those can sometimes blend into the background using a broad area illuminator). They're really intended for use with IR nightvision goggles (a purpose they absolutely excel at!), but they aren't very expensive so they can be great additions to the IR kit. Web site for the Photonlight IR stuff is: http://www.photonlight.com/products/infrared_photons.html=20 Enjoy! (and you headed to LDI? I must owe you a beer or something.....) Michael Finney Thinkwell Design & Production mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com =20 http://www.thinkwelldesign.com =20 ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1ee.2b3a51df.2e81d84c [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:17:32 EDT Subject: Re: pipe storage Nope. Not a silly question. You should have no problem with bowing or warping. The pipe can support itself. However, I would be very careful about the vertical storage. I've seen too many accidents where someone pulled out 1 pipe only to have the whole bunch come over. I would suggest that you support the pipes in compartments. If you have, for example, 20 pipes stacked in the corner, use a chain to secure 10 and another chain to secure the other 10. That way, when you need only one, you don't have the entire stack loose. Zat help? Bill S. (Anyone interested in a motorcycle ride this summer? It's for a great cause and I can pretty much guarantee you a great time. Please note I did not say I could guarantee you great weather.) Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.0.20040921141554.00aef8c0 [at] localhost> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:18:11 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: [spamcatcher] Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol (SFX) In-Reply-To: References: At 07:54 AM 9/7/2004, you wrote: Interesting idea. When I read the first query from Dave Reynolds, I was thinking about some sort of wireless IR transmitter in the barrel of the gun, triggering an audio gizmo of some sort. It would take some fiddling to get it so the player went instantaneous. >Something someone like a Jerry Durand could whip up in minutes, no doubt. :) Figures, I'm busy when my name is mentioned (and in a good way, too!). :) >I suppose a gizmo that transmitted a radio frequency could work too - and >we all know how reliable these wireless things are... I've designed wireless modems and had the hardest time convincing the people who owned the company that wireless isn't the most reliable thing around. Your could do this wireless, infra red, or ultra-sonic, depending on where the gun's aiming and things like that. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com pgp: 45A2 0A52 1D56 70C2 B865 9D5C 83F2 2112 04CE 2B54 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:33:14 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: [spamcatcher] Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol (SFX) Message-id: <41509E1A.A79F003 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: We all know what SFX refers to in theatre, but unfortunately our email server doesn't. *sigh* -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:02:03 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: [spamcatcher] Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol (SFX) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Stephen Litterst wrote: > We all know what SFX refers to in theatre, but unfortunately our email > server doesn't. The theatre-sound list thinks it stands for Sound Effects but I always felt it stood for Special Effects... Charlie ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:04:07 -0400 From: Michael Feinberg Subject: Re: IR Video systems >We're beginning the install of our new video systems and noticed that >we (I) neglected to get IR emitters for our FOH Ir camera. Does >anyone have Ir emitters that they love and would recommend (or that >they hate and wouldn't recommend)? This was discussed on the theatre-sound list last year. Look at the 10/03 archives under the subjects "I Hate Vicons" and "IR Cameras" http://www.brooklyn.com/theatre-sound/archive/older/OCTOBER-2003/ I also found a lot of units searching google with the term "IR Illuminator" rather than "emitter" which mostly returned links to remote control extenders. -- -Michael Feinberg, CTS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:16:09 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: [spamcatcher] Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol (SFX) Message-id: <4150A829.8E07AC8E [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Charlie Richmond wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Stephen Litterst wrote: > > > We all know what SFX refers to in theatre, but unfortunately our email > > server doesn't. > > The theatre-sound list thinks it stands for Sound Effects but I always felt it > stood for Special Effects... Well, we all know what it stands for, we just don't agree sometimes. :) Unfortunately, my mail server thinks it's a misspelling of SEX. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Paul Masck Subject: Re: Simple set realization software? Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:50:56 -0400 I'll add a second recommendation for sketchUp. It is a brilliant program, built more for architects than anything, but you can certainly make it work easily for our purposes. Best program I've ever seen for turning thought process directly into 3D. You can't do that with a pencil. > A friend of mine uses a program called Graphite for CAD, it seems to be > pretty quick and easy, he claims it's going to revolutionize the > drafting world. Graphite is made by ashlar-vellum, (ashlar.com). The program used to be called Vellum. (Name change around the same time MiniCAD became Vectorworks) It is the "drafting" part of a suite of programs including "Carbon", "Neon", and "Argon" for Modeling, Animating, and Rendering. Until ashlar creates a better user interface I'm afraid they'll never take over the drafting world. It has a fast learning curve and does do 3D, but for anything at all complicated, I want my AutoCAD. Cheers- P... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Masck paul [at] masck.com www.masck.com slave to the misshapen chaos of well-seeming forms ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: pipe storage Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:10:58 -0500 > My question is, do I need to worry about the pipe bowing or warping > under it's own weight, since it will effectively only be supported at > the two ends? I haven't had any problems and ours (up to 18') have been stored that way for 10 years. I just put down a sacrificial piece of 3/4" ply underneath to save the threads (or thread on a pipe coupler to accomplish the same thing). Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <6272C516-0C4D-11D9-95DA-000D936BFA94 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: pipe storage Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:10:48 -0500 Sorry for the multiple sig's. I am not sure what is going on. ------------------------------ From: "Chris Summers" Subject: Web Pages Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:21:50 -0400 Message-ID: We have a multi-purpose facility hosting everything from banquet dinners, to web cast meetings, to high school proms, to various concerts and theatrical shows. Are there any similar facilities out in the world with web sites that they are especially proud off. My own web site is desperately needing to be reworked and I'm trying to get ideas to on the best way to organize the web site. Feel free to email me links off list. Thanks in advance, Chris Summers, Technical Director John A. Walker Community Center Wilkes Community College 1328 Collegiate Dr Wilkesboro, NC 28697 _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfeeŽ Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:13:33 -0500 Subject: Re: Semi trailer questions From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Try Looking up the following entertainment trucking companies: Road Show 1-800-861-3111 Show moves Stage Call Upstaging 847-949-4900 Sorry I only had two phone numbers on hand but the others should be easy to find. In my touring experience with theaters, convention centers and arenas, we never had wheel chokes unless the venue required them and then they provided them, BUT the trailers were also never dropped. I would suspect if you were dropping the trailers you would want to chok the wheels. All of the above companies are great to work with. If you let them know your need for wheel choks while developing the contract they will be sure to supply them for you. Hope this helps. Greg Persinger Vivid Illumination Greg [at] Vividillumination.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <415038E4.12DD651A [at] cybercom.net> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:21:24 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Projections . . . Help! References: Brian Hatfield wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > We are putting together a show which calls for > multiple projections. Is there away which you can > control multiple projectors from a single computer? > > Thanks > Brian Hatfield There is a current and very active discussion on this very subject going on over on the show-control mailing list. <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Show-Control/ You have to join yahoo groups to subscribe. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001901c4a05d$ee17b3f0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Simple set realization software? Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:37:55 -0700 I just wanted to thank everyone for their suggestions (on- and off-list) for low-tech 3D realization software. Excellent stuff. My friend is looking at the goods now. That "SketchUp" software looks sweet! Wish I had that kind of coin for my own personal use... Interestingly, "Design Workshop," one of the softwares suggested, is the actual name of the class my colleague is teaching! He thought that must be prophetic in some way.... -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative http://www.wlhs.wlwv.k12.or.us/aresj/theatre/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:02:23 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Projections . . . Help! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Dale Farmer wrote: > You have to join yahoo groups to subscribe. Not necessarily. There are email commands you can use plus you can just visit the Show-Control list's home page (see my sig below...) Charlie + Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design Ltd - Aura Show Control Ltd + + http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com -- http://www.AuraShowControl.com + +---- "Performance for the Long Run" ----- "Creativity in Control" ----+ +------ To get info or join the Show Control Mailing List go to: ------+ +----------- http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/sclist.html -----------+ ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #140 *****************************