Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.5) with PIPE id 4795502; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:00:37 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.5 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #174 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:00:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #174 1. radios by b Ricie 2. Re: Radios by Greg Bierly 3. Re: A cautionary tale by Greg Bierly 4. Re: Radios by Colin Koffel 5. Re: Radios by IAEG [at] aol.com 6. Re: Radios by Mike Brubaker 7. Re: Fire as Stage Illumination by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 8. Re: Fire as Stage Illumination by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 9. Re: Fire as Stage Illumination by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 10. Re: Life as a Scenic Artist by CB 11. Re: Fire on Stage by Dorian Kelly *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <20041024135727.31057.qmail [at] web50605.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:57:27 -0700 (PDT) From: b Ricie Subject: radios In-Reply-To: >>I would also like your collected advice on what type of communication tools that you use.<< We have been using two way radios on the road. The problem is they go dead very quickly, as a result the A.T.D, Master carp. and myself use Squeaky Clown noses. The nose works great when you are attempting to find someone through a sea of people in a strange venue, and the best part is no batteries to go dead. ===== Brian Rice b_ricie [at] yahoo.com _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <33D6CC7C-25D9-11D9-A66F-000D936BFA94 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Radios Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:24:39 -0500 > Actually, they are out if you have the budget.... > http://www.vocera.com/products/documentation.shtm That is just too cool! I am just not sure I want to be THAT connected. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <947623AA-25D9-11D9-A66F-000D936BFA94 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: A cautionary tale Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:27:21 -0500 > [My apologies in advance for the length of this post. > In a situation such as this, I am choosing accuracy > rather than brevity.] Great Post! Very well written. A very well thought out, calm, and rational reply. I wish everyone could compose a rebuttal so tactfully. Thanks for taking the time out of your schedule to add your side of the story. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:22:58 -0400 From: Colin Koffel Subject: Re: Radios In-reply-to: Message-id: References: On Oct 23, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Fitch, Tracy wrote: > Actually, they are out if you have the budget.... > http://www.vocera.com/products/documentation.shtm I read that Apple gave these to the employees of their new Apple Mini stores. If one is near you, you should check it out. Wired wrote a little thing about them: The mini-stores will use IP-based communications gear from Vocera Communications, which includes a small, 2-oz. "badge" that clips to your pocket or ID lanyard, and uses Wi-Fi to link together other badges and even a telephone system. It provides all the features of a telephone, a two-way radio, a pager, and voice mail, all using voice commands. A Vocera network can span buildings, cities or even states, allowing you to call someone no matter where they are, just by saying, "Call Steve Jobs." The Mini stores are in - Palo Alto, CA - San Jose, CA - Santa Rosa, CA - Tukwila, WA - Bridgewater, NJ - Rockaway, NJ with two more opening in a week at - Rancho Cucamonga, CA - Danbury CT more info at http://www.apple.com/retail/ If only wood scraps turned into $100 bills... Colin Koffel ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <9a.17bfb4a7.2ead3559 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:42:01 EDT Subject: Re: Radios In a message dated 10/24/04 12:22:01 PM, c.koffel [at] charter.net writes: << I read that Apple gave these to the employees of their new Apple Mini stores. If one is near you, you should check it out. >> just what I need, , an excuse to go to an APPLE store and spend more money, , , very best, Keith Arsenault President IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida www.iaeginc.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20041024150722.01c51288 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:07:50 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Radios In-Reply-To: References: Steel scraps are getting close... Mike At 11:22 AM 10/24/2004, Colin Koffel wrote: >If only wood scraps turned into $100 bills... ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Fire as Stage Illumination Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:06:44 -0700 Message-ID: <065001c4ba15$c0037c70$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-Reply-To: Is "yikes" in order, or is that too bombastic? Doom ==================================================== A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops ==================================================== Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world a healthier & safer place. Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com ==================================================== International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org ==================================================== 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Richard Niederberg Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 10:58 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Fire as Stage Illumination For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Dear Frank, Lets not go there; we really don't know whose job duties were supplemented to include espionage with funding under the Patriot Act. There could very easily be an monitor essentially all e-mail traffic for character strings that include the 'd' word that you used in the below post. /s/ Richard > > Well, color me clueless. All this time, and it never even > > occurred to me til now that Frank was a potential terrorist! ;) > Well, I suppose I am. I know how to make a bomb, > and how to detonate it. > Frank Wood ________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <127.4de97840.2ead853c [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:22:52 EDT Subject: Re: Fire as Stage Illumination In a message dated 24/10/04 23:07:43 GMT Daylight Time, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net writes: > Is "yikes" in order, or is that too bombastic? Doom Not at all. I'm sure that many of us know how to make and detonate explosive devices. I am sure that you do. But, safely. Both of us could, if we wished, prepare a car bomb which would lay waste a city block. But, we are more civilised. > Dear Frank, > Lets not go there; we really don't know whose job duties were > supplemented to include espionage with funding under the Patriot Act. > There could very easily be an monitor essentially all e-mail traffic for > character strings that include the 'd' word that you used in the below > post. > /s/ Richard > > > > Well, color me clueless. All this time, and it never even > > > occurred to me til now that Frank was a potential terrorist! ;) > > > Well, I suppose I am. I know how to make a bomb, > > and how to detonate it. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Fire as Stage Illumination Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:26:57 -0700 Message-ID: <066401c4ba18$92fd6d00$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-Reply-To: Yes. I have, sadly, been into, shall we say, explosives in many avenues. You are correct. Doom ==================================================== A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops ==================================================== Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world a healthier & safer place. Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com ==================================================== International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org ==================================================== 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:23 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Fire as Stage Illumination For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 24/10/04 23:07:43 GMT Daylight Time, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net writes: > Is "yikes" in order, or is that too bombastic? Doom Not at all. I'm sure that many of us know how to make and detonate explosive devices. I am sure that you do. But, safely. Both of us could, if we wished, prepare a car bomb which would lay waste a city block. But, we are more civilised. > Dear Frank, > Lets not go there; we really don't know whose job duties were > supplemented to include espionage with funding under the Patriot Act. > There could very easily be an monitor essentially all e-mail traffic for > character strings that include the 'd' word that you used in the below > post. > /s/ Richard > > > > Well, color me clueless. All this time, and it never even > > > occurred to me til now that Frank was a potential terrorist! ;) > > > Well, I suppose I am. I know how to make a bomb, > > and how to detonate it. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041024202813.01983380 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:28:13 From: CB Subject: RE: Life as a Scenic Artist >Ken talks not only about the process but also about the emotions >involved in making theatre. Welcome to my world. Today is day 24 in a row without break, and I can commiserate. I'm a carpenter between sound gigs till 'Dracula' opens, not because I need the money (I made as much on one mixing gig as I did an entire week of carping) but because I love theatre, and the scenic designer/artist that I get to work with. I don't build sets for anyone else. Not anyone. The checks are nice, but they aren't what I'm used to. I couldn't even eek out the meager existence that I'm used to on a carps pay, and I do NOT live luxuriously. I am blessed with beer tastes to go with my beer budget. What struck me as od during this last three weeks of set building was what I was thinking as I built. I was thinking about the audience. Thier willingness to suspend disbelief, was I doing what was necessary to help them, and thier wonder. Carps don't get paid enough, neither do painters, nor soundcrew or electricians, loaders riggers, etc. And it ain't because these shows make no money. 'Theatre People' have money, and 'theatre people' don't. It was hard to look at the Mercedes Kompressor driven by the producer of the last show I toured with while cashing my meager paycheck. I went out for what would be considered per diem by most road dogs, again, a favor for a friend. Something should be done. Until the people that actually MAKE theatre can dress at least as nice as the people who go to theatre, and drive something younger than they are, things'll just be wrong. Fewer talented folk will be drawn to theatre craft, and artists will sel their wares elsewhere. Theatre will continue to dwindle until it's digitized... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:33:49 +0100 From: Dorian Kelly Subject: Re: Fire on Stage >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >>Frank Wood >Yes, but it's black smoke. That's harder to do. And its toxic usually DK ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #174 *****************************