Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 7053377; Sat, 04 Dec 2004 03:02:03 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #215 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 03:01:46 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #215 1. Color Coding Fixtures by Cosmo Catalano 2. PAUL RICHARDSON/QVC is out of the office. by PAUL_RICHARDSON [at] qvc.com 3. Angus of God by Joseph Champelli 4. Re: Angus of God by "Immel,Patrick" 5. Re: Angus of God by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 6. Re: Angus of God by "Jon Ares" 7. Re: Angus of God by IAEG [at] aol.com 8. Re: Color Coding Fixtures by "Paul Schreiner" 9. Re: Angus of God by "Paul Schreiner" 10. Re: Angus of God by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 11. Re: Angus of God by "Tony" 12. Re: Angus of God by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 13. Sewing machine by "jknipple" 14. Re: Sewing machine by "Delbert Hall" 15. Re: portable fixtures by "Karl G. Ruling" 16. Re: portable fixtures by "Jonathan S. Deull" 17. Re: Angus of God by "Tony" 18. Re: Angus of God by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 19. Re: Color Coding Fixtures by Mick Alderson 20. Re: Current Threads by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 21. Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson) by MissWisc [at] aol.com 22. Luminaire by "Steve B." 23. Re: Fixtures & Luminaires by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 24. Re: Color Coding Fixtures by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 25. Re: Color Coding Fixtures by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 26. Re: Color Coding Fixtures by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 27. Re: Current Threads by "Paul Schreiner" 28. Re: portable fixtures by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 29. Re: Fixtures & Luminaires by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 30. Re: Current Threads by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 31. Re: Fixtures & Luminaires by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 32. Re: Current Threads by "Jon Ares" 33. Re: Current Threads by "Joe Golden" 34. Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson) by John Bracewell 35. Re: Current Threads by Bill Sapsis 36. S4 Barrel Storage by "Randy Whitcomb" 37. Re: Current Threads by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 38. Re: Luminaire / Instrument by "Matthew Breton" 39. Re: Current Threads by "Don Taco" 40. Re: Current Threads by "Jon Ares" 41. Re: S4 Barrel Storage by "Douglas McCracken" 42. Re: Current Threads by "Michael Feinberg" 43. Re: Sewing machine by "Frank E. Merrill" 44. Re: S4 Barrel Storage by Greg Bierly 45. Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson) by "Tom Heemskerk" 46. Number the messages on the list by Michael Cook 47. Re: Number the messages on the list by Pat Kight 48. Re: portable fixtures by Andy Ciddor 49. Re: High density plastic glides by MPTecDir [at] aol.com 50. Re: Number the messages on the list by Jared Johnson 51. Work Boot Recommendations.... by "qstage" 52. Re: Work Boot Recommendations.... by Mat Goebel 53. Re: Number the messages on the list by MissWisc [at] aol.com 54. Re: Number the messages on the list by Pat Kight 55. Re: Work Boot Recommendations.... by Dale Farmer 56. Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson) by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:22:46 -0500 From: Cosmo Catalano Subject: Color Coding Fixtures In-reply-to: Message-id: <0A58715B-4526-11D9-AE89-000D936C1414 [at] williams.edu> References: To continue to whip this poor dead horse, we use a piece of velcro with the appropriate number on it on the yoke of the units. We have many more lens tubes than bodies, so part of prepping the hang is to assemble the correct number of lensed bodies. This does not solve the problem of seeing what tube is in the unit from the deck after it is hung, and requires some diligence in making sure to swap the velcro when the tube is changed. I like the idea of painting the gel holder area a specific color, except when the units will be visible to the audience. With apologies to Paul, Later's Cosmo "Who broke my projector?" asked Tom, bellowing and howling. ------------------------------ Subject: PAUL RICHARDSON/QVC is out of the office. From: PAUL_RICHARDSON [at] qvc.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 08:14:08 -0500 I will be out of the office starting 12/03/2004 and will not return until 12/06/2004. In my absence, please contact Chuck Grill or Lou Venuto at 6908 to take care of your live show needs. Scheduling questions should be refered to Chuck Lester at 1546. I will respond to any other emails as soon as I return. Thanks-- ------------------------------ From: Joseph Champelli Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 08:33:37 -0500 Reply-To: Subject: Angus of God Message-ID: Does anyone have available or know of a place to rent the blood= effect for Agnes of God? Joseph Champelli University of Tennessee Department of Theatre - Entertainment= Technology 865.974.7069 office 702.429.5859 cell 775.206.6078 fax champelli [at] knology.net - home = jchampel [at] utk.edu - office ------------------------------ Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE390241F66F9 [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu> From: "Immel,Patrick" Subject: RE: Angus of God Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 07:54:21 -0600 Try the slaughter house <> <> I couldn't resist...see subject line! I crack me up! Pat Immel > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Champelli [mailto:champelli [at] knology.net] > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:34 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Angus of God > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Does anyone have available or know of a place to rent the > blood effect for Agnes of God? > > > Joseph Champelli > University of Tennessee Department of Theatre - Entertainment > Technology > 865.974.7069 office 702.429.5859 cell 775.206.6078 fax > champelli [at] knology.net - home > jchampel [at] utk.edu - office > > > ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Angus of God Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 06:42:40 -0800 Message-ID: <004301c4d946$57b6c370$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-reply-to: ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY HAGIOGRAPHY TO KNOW. DOOM ==================================================== A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops ==================================================== Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world a healthier & safer place. Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com ==================================================== International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org ==================================================== 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Immel,Patrick Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 5:54 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Angus of God For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Try the slaughter house <> <> I couldn't resist...see subject line! I crack me up! Pat Immel > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Champelli [mailto:champelli [at] knology.net] > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:34 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Angus of God > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Does anyone have available or know of a place to rent the > blood effect for Agnes of God? > > > Joseph Champelli > University of Tennessee Department of Theatre - Entertainment > Technology > 865.974.7069 office 702.429.5859 cell 775.206.6078 fax > champelli [at] knology.net - home > jchampel [at] utk.edu - office > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000401c4d947$9dbbea20$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Angus of God Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 06:51:47 -0800 That was a wonderful laugh, first thing in the morning. Visions of a new musical, with cows in habits..... -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative http://www.wlhs.wlwv.k12.or.us/aresj/theatre/index.htm ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:51:43 EST Subject: Re: Angus of God In a message dated 12/3/04 9:43:24 AM, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net writes: >ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY HAGIOGRAPHY >TO KNOW. DOOM Anges ? ? ? ? ? ? Anges in America ? very best, Keith Arsenault ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Color Coding Fixtures Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:54:22 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A74ADAE [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > I like the idea of painting the gel holder=20 > area a specific color, except when the units will be visible to the=20 > audience. My philosophy on this sort of thing (audience visibility) is that if the audience members are paying attention to the colors on the instruments or the cables I hang in the air, then there's lots more important issues with the show than colored instruments and cables! I have tried coloring the gel frame holder before, but with results that were less satisfying (primarily because of the "instruments standing on the deck" factor) than I had hoped, so in reading all of this I'm thinking now of doing some colored tape around the lens tube itself; it gives almost 360 degrees of visibility, and if I locate the tape down at the "crease" where the barrel flares out I won't interfere with barrel travel. And it'll mean one piece of tape will work for both floor and when hung, and will automatically travel with the tubes... ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Angus of God Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:58:43 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A74ADB0 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Subject: Re: Angus of God > That was a wonderful laugh, first thing in the morning. =20 > Visions of a new=20 > musical, with cows in habits..... Yes...been a while since I've chuckled like that at this time of day! ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Angus of God Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 07:09:31 -0800 Message-ID: <000301c4d94a$181cbb80$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-Reply-To: Agnes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. doom ==================================================== A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops ==================================================== Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world a healthier & safer place. Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com ==================================================== International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org ==================================================== 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of IAEG [at] aol.com Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:52 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Angus of God For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 12/3/04 9:43:24 AM, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net writes: >ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY HAGIOGRAPHY >TO KNOW. DOOM Anges ? ? ? ? ? ? Anges in America ? very best, Keith Arsenault ------------------------------ Message-ID: <021c01c4d94d$35e75a00$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References: Subject: Re: Angus of God Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:31:47 -0000 GLOVES OFF WHEN TYPING!!! 8-))) Ynot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Angus of God > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Agnes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. doom > > ==================================================== > A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public > Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - > Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, > 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana > > Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops > ==================================================== > Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world > a healthier & safer place. > Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com > ==================================================== > International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - > Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. > Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org > ==================================================== > 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 > ==================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of > IAEG [at] aol.com > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:52 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Angus of God > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > In a message dated 12/3/04 9:43:24 AM, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net writes: > > >ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY > HAGIOGRAPHY > >TO KNOW. DOOM > > > Anges ? ? ? ? ? ? > > Anges in America ? > > > very best, > > Keith Arsenault > > ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Angus of God Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 07:42:06 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01c4d94e$a51108d0$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-Reply-To: Tony, did you get my latest from Laura Koch? This morning. doom ==================================================== A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops ==================================================== Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world a healthier & safer place. Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com ==================================================== International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org ==================================================== 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:32 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Angus of God For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- GLOVES OFF WHEN TYPING!!! 8-))) Ynot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Angus of God > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Agnes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. doom > > ==================================================== > A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public > Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - > Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, > 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana > > Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops > ==================================================== > Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world > a healthier & safer place. > Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com > ==================================================== > International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - > Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. > Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org > ==================================================== > 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 > ==================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of > IAEG [at] aol.com > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:52 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Angus of God > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > In a message dated 12/3/04 9:43:24 AM, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net writes: > > >ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY > HAGIOGRAPHY > >TO KNOW. DOOM > > > Anges ? ? ? ? ? ? > > Anges in America ? > > > very best, > > Keith Arsenault > > ------------------------------ Subject: Sewing machine Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:52:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "jknipple" Just wanted some opinions on sewing machines. We recently got a LOT of = curtain fabric (velour, canvas, etc), but don't have a sewing machine. = We don't usually have people skilled at sewing, so I've been doing a lot = of training on a borrowed machine. Anyone have an opinion on what a = good, cost effective sewing machine for heavy duty work by novice sewers = would be? James Knipple =A0 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: RE: Sewing machine Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:00:57 -0500 I have Juki DNU-1541 that I am very pleased with. 1/2 HP motor will sew through anything. Cost is around $1,750 as I recall. Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) >--------------------------------------------------- > >Just wanted some opinions on sewing machines. We recently got a LOT of >curtain fabric (velour, canvas, etc), but don't have a sewing machine. We >don't usually have people skilled at sewing, so I've been doing a lot of >training on a borrowed machine. Anyone have an opinion on what a good, cost >effective sewing machine for heavy duty work by novice sewers would be? > >James Knipple > >Technical Director >REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage >Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College >- www.howardcc.edu/studentarts >jknipple [at] howardcc.edu >410-772-4451 > > ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:06:49 -0500 Subject: Re: portable fixtures Reply-to: kruling [at] esta.org Message-ID: <41B048C9.21834.764F6A [at] localhost> In-reply-to: > > So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all portable what > would they be called? "Luminaires" if they put out light to illuminate something. If you weld it in place so it never moves, it'll still be a luminaire if it still puts out light to illuminate something. "Fixture" only tells you about the mounting; it doesn't tell you what a thing does. It doesn't even tell you that the thing has anything to do with lighting; a urinal (unless it's portable) is a "fixture." It's a plumbing fixture, but it's a fixture. > Or because they are temporarily attached to a structure by > a tee or c-clamp are they considered fastened in place? The c-clamp is a temporary fastening. You're not serious are you, or are you really suggesting that a luminaire should be a "fixture" when fastened to a pipe by a c-clamp, but "not a fixture" when an electrician unfastens it and carries it the the storage rack, and which point it becomes a "fixture" again, but only if the c-clamp is tightened on the rack? If that's the case, who cares if it's "a fixture" or not? This is not useful information--which was exactly my original point. ------------------------------ From: "Jonathan S. Deull" Subject: RE: portable fixtures Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:44:33 -0500 In-reply-to: Message-ID: > So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all portable what > would they be called? Just an ignorant question from out of the loop: some of us grew up calling them "instruments." Is that term dead? Jonathan Deull ------------------------------ Message-ID: <023301c4d957$6bb4f520$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References: Subject: Re: Angus of God Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:44:52 -0000 Yep - haven't you seen my reply to yours? TD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Angus of God > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Tony, did you get my latest from Laura Koch? This morning. doom > > ==================================================== > A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public > Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - > Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, > 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana > > Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops > ==================================================== > Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world > a healthier & safer place. > Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com > ==================================================== > International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - > Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. > Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org > ==================================================== > 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 > ==================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Tony > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:32 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Angus of God > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > GLOVES OFF WHEN TYPING!!! > > 8-))) > > Ynot > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" > To: "Stagecraft" > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: Angus of God > > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Agnes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. doom > > > > ==================================================== > > A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public > > Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - > > Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, > > 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana > > > > Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops > > ==================================================== > > Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the > world > > a healthier & safer place. > > Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com > > ==================================================== > > International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) > - > > Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. > > Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org > > ==================================================== > > 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 > > ==================================================== > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of > > IAEG [at] aol.com > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:52 AM > > To: Stagecraft > > Subject: Re: Angus of God > > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > In a message dated 12/3/04 9:43:24 AM, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net > writes: > > > > >ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY > > HAGIOGRAPHY > > >TO KNOW. DOOM > > > > > > Anges ? ? ? ? ? ? > > > > Anges in America ? > > > > > > very best, > > > > Keith Arsenault > > > > > > ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Angus of God Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 08:51:42 -0800 Message-ID: <000e01c4d958$5fe5ed70$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-reply-to: Now, I have. Thanks. doom ==================================================== A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops ==================================================== Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world a healthier & safer place. Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com ==================================================== International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org ==================================================== 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:45 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Angus of God For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Yep - haven't you seen my reply to yours? TD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Angus of God > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Tony, did you get my latest from Laura Koch? This morning. doom > > ==================================================== > A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public > Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - > Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, > 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana > > Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops > ==================================================== > Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world > a healthier & safer place. > Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com > ==================================================== > International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - > Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. > Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org > ==================================================== > 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 > ==================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Tony > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:32 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Angus of God > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > GLOVES OFF WHEN TYPING!!! > > 8-))) > > Ynot > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" > To: "Stagecraft" > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: Angus of God > > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Agnes. Yes. Yes. Yes. 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FWIW, I'd still only do it with some sort of >> reservations (or just do the three 50s), since there's always >> room for inventory expansion... > >Even in that case, I'd code the tubes rather than the yokes. >Occasionally, one might want to replace an existing 50-degree with a 36 >(or vice versa); in that case it's much easier to swap a barrel than an >entire fixture. This whole thread is a prime example of why there is no one "right" answer to any question (and how we all like to argue! ;-). Different situations require different solutions. Use what works for you. In my case, I store my instruments "in place" between shows, so marking the yokes makes it easier to identify them from behind when moving them around during hang. The number of lens trains and the number of bodies I have are the same, so I never remove them. I mark with colored electrical tape, which is easily removed if necessary. In a different situation I'd do something different. It makes no sense to me to follow a "standard" that doesn't work for you. I think my students are clever enough to learn a new system when they go elsewhere. They've learned mine! Mick Alderson TD, Fredric March Theatre University of Wisconsin Oshkosh alderson [at] uwosh.edu ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Current Threads Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:55:59 -0500 Anyone else intrigued by one thread regarding color coding and another re: color blind casting? I once replaced a color blind L.D. which is a pretty interesting thought. As Ludwig Von B. was eventually deaf this guy was able to do a good job requiring only very careful numbering on gels. Directors may be color blind for casting but not designers. I've worked with African-Americans who happily refer to Rosco 99 as: "Flesh Chocolate", R63 does terrible things to Asian skin tones and I once had a nightmare on a production of 'THE BEGGARS OPERA': The director wanted the actor who delivered a long prologue and was Caucasian, pale and bald, in a single open white special - the guy looked dead. I put in a piece of flesh pink and he looked fine. Next day we started a run thru and he was beet red, it was a small venue, I knew he wasn't wearing make up so we pulled the pink and he looked OK. That night at dress he looked dead again, the director, never a calm soul to begin with, was getting somewhat hot with me personally wanting to know why I kept changing the color so I went to see the actor. As it happened he suffered from periodic high blood pressure, when he took his meds he remained pale but when he missed he walked onstage red as a beet. We worked out a timetable which stage management kept him to and the show went well although that director always claimed I'd brought him new meaning to the word "dim". Marty Petlock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 12:11:19 -0500 From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Subject: Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson) Message-ID: <2F641523.4C1C4F08.007B9F2A [at] aol.com> Bernina 1008 and Kenmore are two names that have been discussed as good choices for novice sewers. There is an extensive discussion going on bout this on the costumer's list. Subscribe: costumeinfo-subscribe [at] yahoogroups.com Other factors discussed include availablilty of part and service in your area. Kristi P.S.And for those of you who aren't well versed in Latin or Catholic history... Agnus (Agnes) is "lamb" and Agnus Dei = lamb of God. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 12:13:33 -0500 From: "Steve B." Subject: Luminaire Message-id: <002901c4d95b$6b6f63d0$6401a8c0 [at] SBFF> References: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan S. Deull" > Just an ignorant question from out of the loop: some of us grew up calling > them "instruments." Is that term dead? Jeez..... Karl has ruled and they shall be called "Luminaires". Can we call this a Ruling by Karl ?. It is not to be called an "Instrument", as that term is used, such as "Instrument of Death", though a Luminaire sans safety cable might then qualify - remember that "The c-clamp is a temporary fastening". Sometimes too temporary. Or it might be confused with a "Surgical Instrument", which is descriptive enough. Maybe "Lighting Fixture" would be allowed. Gets confusing though as you might need the Surgical Instrument to repair the damage caused by the Lighting Instrument. And us electricians are already confused thinking that a hammer is a "Surgical Instrument". I like "Luminaire". Has a French feel to it. Might not go over well in the Red states though. Perhaps dropping the "e" at the end and making it "Luminair" might work. Drives the Brits nuts though, as we already mis-spell all sorts of their words. Such as "favour", and "neighbour". Hell, I'm 'gonna keep calling it a Unit. Easy to spell.. Steve "Trying to be Andy Rooney" Bailey Brooklyn College P.S. I'm off today and have too much time on my hands.... Time to re-commision the snow blower. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:04:51 EST Subject: Re: Fixtures & Luminaires In a message dated 03/12/04 03:14:12 GMT Standard Time, rcarovillano [at] verizon.net writes: > "Things that are > >fastened in place are fixtures; things that are portable aren't" > > So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all portable what would > they be called? Or because they are temporarily attached to a structure by a > > tee or c-clamp are they considered fastened in place? "Fixtures" are connected to the building wiring systems solidly. Hard wired. "Portable Appliances", and this includes anything from the stage lighting to an electric kettle, find their power from various outlets, ususlly hard wired. In the UK at least, these are required to undergo a Purtable Appliance Test (PAT) from time to time. This involves a visual check of the appliance cable and connectors, including the security of the cable clamps, of the earth bond, at 25A, when applicable, an insulation test, a leakage current test, a load test, and possibility a 2.5KV flash test. For double insulated equipment the integrity of the double insulation envelope is checked at 1.5KV. There are devices which carry out all these tests, with pass/fail displays, and more elaborate ones which display all the parameters. When it has been done, the tester can sign it off. Normally, these tests are done annually, and after any service or modification. They can't be done by Joe Soap. I ran the outfit which maintained the lighting gear for the BBC's Film Department for some time, and I'm a qualified and experienced Engineer. Some of the things I found would make your hair curl. Initially, we thought it another big nuisance wished on us by the Health and Safety Executive (=OHSA). But, after some of the things we found, I wonder how many lives we saved, and how many fires we prevented. It wasn't the most interesting job I did for the BBC. I'm an electronics specialist, and that is the trade I prefer to ply. But, with hindsight, it may have been the most valuable. Saving ONE life is worth more than building a studio centre. I shall never know. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <19a.2c7c67d0.2ee2076b [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:16:11 EST Subject: Re: Color Coding Fixtures In a message dated 03/12/04 12:20:40 GMT Standard Time, Cosmo.A.Catalano [at] williams.edu writes: > To continue to whip this poor dead horse, we use a piece of velcro > with the appropriate number on it on the yoke of the units. We have > many more lens tubes than bodies, so part of prepping the hang is to > assemble the correct number of lensed bodies. This does not solve the > problem of seeing what tube is in the unit from the deck after it is > hung, and requires some diligence in making sure to swap the velcro > when the tube is changed. I like the idea of painting the gel holder > area a specific color, except when the units will be visible to the > audience. This thread has run and run. And, from the UK, I don't see the need for it. Well I do, in the way you work. We use a lot of Varifocal lanterns, where the beam angle is, within the limits of the luminaire, what you tell it to be. It's a built-in function of the luminaire, and is set at focus time. This may mean that this is longer, although I doubt it. If you are after the optimum optical efficency, fixed focus luminaires are better. How often is this true? Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <8d.1b513284.2ee207e2 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:18:10 EST Subject: Re: Color Coding Fixtures In a message dated 03/12/04 14:55:07 GMT Standard Time, pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu writes: > My philosophy on this sort of thing (audience visibility) is that if the > audience members are paying attention to the colors on the instruments > or the cables I hang in the air, then there's lots more important issues > with the show than colored instruments and cables! Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <46.5de6a3cc.2ee208bd [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:21:49 EST Subject: Re: Color Coding Fixtures In a message dated 03/12/04 14:55:07 GMT Standard Time, pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu writes: > My philosophy on this sort of thing (audience visibility) is that if the > audience members are paying attention to the colors on the instruments > or the cables I hang in the air, then there's lots more important issues > with the show than colored instruments and cables! First, sorry for the spurious post. Now to the meat. Full agreement. If you except visiting lighting designers, if the audience is looking at the lighting rig, there is something wrong. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Current Threads Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:24:19 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A74ADB3 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Anyone else intrigued by one thread regarding color coding=20 > and another re: color blind casting?=20 To be honest, I actually did that at my last venue...along with color-coding the cables, I also painted on stenciled numbers with the lengths in black in case there were any color-blind crew. As I now work at an all-woman's college (and the fact that color-blindness in women is very rare), that's not really a consideration for me any more. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <15d.454fed9a.2ee20ab8 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:30:16 EST Subject: Re: portable fixtures In a message dated 03/12/04 16:45:43 GMT Standard Time, jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com writes: > > So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all portable what > > would they be called? Portable Appliances. Luminaires is the preferred term. It depends on whether you are talking about their function or not. > > > Just an ignorant question from out of the loop: some of us grew up calling > them "instruments." Is that term dead? I don't know. I think, but may well be wrong, that this term was coined by Adolphe Appia, or someone else of that period. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Fixtures & Luminaires Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:40:25 -0500 Message-ID: <002201c4d967$8de96a80$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > > So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all > portable what > > would > > they be called? It doesn't matter, as long as the lens tubes are color-coded correctly. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:43:17 EST Subject: Re: Current Threads In a message dated 03/12/04 16:54:57 GMT Standard Time, Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com writes: > Anyone else intrigued by one thread regarding color coding and another re: > color blind casting? I once replaced a color blind L.D. which is a pretty > interesting thought. As Ludwig Von B. was eventually deaf this guy was able > to do a good job requiring only very careful numbering on gels. By the colour blind casting, yes. I assume that this is not about the black/white actors. If it is, I have no view. But I have worked, and sailed, with a seriously red-green colour-blind director. Having made sure that there was someone on watch with him, the sailing was no problem. In the theatre, he trusted me. A colour-blind LD is a big no-no. While I don't value colours much, they have their places. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <12d.50eca2de.2ee21109 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:57:13 EST Subject: Re: Fixtures & Luminaires In a message dated 03/12/04 18:41:26 GMT Standard Time, stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com writes: > > > So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all > > portable what > > > would > > > they be called? Luminaires is the most generally acceptable term, and the most precise.. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003901c4d96a$35561050$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Current Threads Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:59:25 -0800 > To be honest, I actually did that at my last venue...along with > color-coding the cables, I also painted on stenciled numbers with the > lengths in black in case there were any color-blind crew. I've started stenciling and color-coding my crew. (Is this thread dead yet?) -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative http://www.wlhs.wlwv.k12.or.us/aresj/theatre/index.htm ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Current Threads Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:02:04 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" I prefer colored socks. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Ares [mailto:jonares [at] hevanet.com]=20 > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:59 AM > To: Stagecraft > I've started stenciling and color-coding my crew. >=20 > (Is this thread dead yet?) no ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:04:46 -0500 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson) In-reply-to: Message-id: <5.2.0.9.0.20041203140408.00bbb1a8 [at] pop.lightlink.com> >P.S.And for those of you who aren't well versed in Latin or Catholic >history... Agnus (Agnes) is "lamb" and Agnus Dei = lamb of God. Miserere nobis! --JLB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:13:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Current Threads From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 12/3/04 2:02 PM, Joe Golden at Joe [at] elslights.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I prefer colored socks. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jon Ares [mailto:jonares [at] hevanet.com] >> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:59 AM >> To: Stagecraft > >> I've started stenciling and color-coding my crew. >> >> (Is this thread dead yet?) > > no OK. I've told this story before but, given the current thread, it's worth repeating. Back in '76 or so, Pete Feller, SR. moved his shop from the Bronx to Newburgh NY. At that point he sold the various departments of the shop (Iron, rough carpentry, props, etc.) to the various department heads. In Newburgh they all worked in the same really big airplane hanger. As you can imagine, things started to disappear on a regular basis so people started color coding their supplies and equipment. Doc, who ran the iron shop painted all of his stuff blue. And I do mean "all" of his stuff. When Rudy, his head welder, walked away from you you were rewarded with a nice view of his back....with a blue stripe painted down the center of it. Ah...... Those were the days. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <01ac01c4d96c$67304ad0$0300a8c0 [at] D4D3R151> From: "Randy Whitcomb" Subject: S4 Barrel Storage Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:15:07 -0700 Now that we've color coded them, how do you store them. I've got 6 extra barrels now but plan on getting more. I've been considering a honeycomb of sonotube. Randy Whitcomb, TD Price Civic Aud. Loveland, CO. ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Current Threads Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 14:29:59 -0500 Message-ID: <002301c4d96e$9b85be80$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > > (Is this thread dead yet?) > > no > Yes. ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: RE: Luminaire / Instrument Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:31:34 -0500 >Or it might be confused with a "Surgical Instrument", which is descriptive >enough. At my theatre, whenever somebody twangs a shutter on an instrument, we call it "shutter music." We keep talking about how, in our Copious Free Time (tm), we're going to figure out how to tune all the instruments -- musically, not in terms of a bench focus. Generally, it's the newer guys who make shutter music. The ones who start dreaming they're a conductor, we invite outside. -- Matt ====== _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <007d01c4d96f$159b40f0$d39e1518 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Current Threads Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:34:19 -0800 > I've started stenciling and color-coding my crew. > -- Jon Ares At the high school, the costume crew went out one year and obtained, by and for themselves, some very nice matching black T-shirts that read 'Costumes.' I told them they should get identical shirts made to wear to the closing night cast party that read 'Street Clothes.' ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000f01c4d96f$6f6788f0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Current Threads Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:36:50 -0800 > At the high school, the costume crew went out one year and obtained, by > and for themselves, some very > nice matching black T-shirts that read 'Costumes.' I told them they > should get identical shirts made to wear > to the closing night cast party that read 'Street Clothes.' LOL!! What an idea! -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative http://www.wlhs.wlwv.k12.or.us/aresj/theatre/index.htm ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Douglas McCracken" Subject: RE: S4 Barrel Storage Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:44:14 -1000 Message-ID: In-reply-to: We use empty PAR64 lamp boxes. 6 to a case. Aloha, Douglas > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf > Of Randy Whitcomb > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:15 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: S4 Barrel Storage > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Now that we've color coded them, how do you store them. I've > got 6 extra barrels now but plan on getting more. I've been > considering a honeycomb of sonotube. > > Randy Whitcomb, TD > Price Civic Aud. > Loveland, CO. > ------------------------------ From: "Michael Feinberg" Subject: Re: Current Threads Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:08:24 -0400 Message-Id: <20041203200611.M76596 [at] joyce.eng.yale.edu> In-Reply-To: References: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:59:25 -0800, Jon Ares wrote > I've started stenciling and color-coding my crew. I've actually done the color-coding the crew part, at least with hard hats. For load-ins in college when there would be a lot a of unskilled labor on hand, I gave the blue hard hats to the crew who knew what was going on and instructed everyone else to find a blue hard hat and ask them if they had any questions. And I bought a green hard hat for myself so it would stand out, couldn't quite bring myself to buy the hot pink one. :) -Michael Feinberg, CTS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:53:26 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1801026486.20041203155326 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Re: Sewing machine In-Reply-To: References: Howdy! Friday, December 03, 2004, James Knipple wrote: j> Anyone have an opinion on what a good, cost effective sewing j> machine for heavy duty work by novice sewers would be? I have a fabulous cast iron Singer model 111-W155 that has processed many, many miles of curtain fabric. I believe they are no longer manufactured, but my favorite Singer service center here in town sees several of them. I'd check Ebay or your local sewing service center. Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Eastablished 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v3.0 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: S4 Barrel Storage Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:11:24 -0500 Mine sit three deep and 7 wide perfectly on an old set of shelves I inherited from the AV dept. If you care they are all gel frame holder down with the degree marking facing forward. 36 deg should be only place in front of other 36 deg as with all the different degrees. > Now that we've color coded them, how do you store them. I've got 6 > extra barrels now but plan on getting more. I've been considering a > honeycomb of sonotube. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <62799.142.179.101.174.1102111506.squirrel [at] 142.179.101.174> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 14:05:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson) From: "Tom Heemskerk" > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Bernina 1008 and Kenmore are two names that have been discussed as good > choices for novice sewers. There is an extensive discussion going on bout > this on the costumer's list. Subscribe: > costumeinfo-subscribe [at] yahoogroups.com > > Other factors discussed include availablilty of part and service in your > area. Another machine that is fairly common is the Pfaff 138 reversing zig-zag, but any machine with a 1/2 horse motor is perhpas a wild ride for a beginner.... th ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41B0F85E.7020409 [at] stmarys-ca.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:35:58 -0800 From: Michael Cook Subject: Number the messages on the list I get the list in digest form. The messages are nicely numbered on the top. Any chance we could get the messages numbered in the lower portion of the digest, or even linked? I often spend many minutes trying to find the message I want to read and sometimes, I hate to admit, give up and delete the whole digest in frustration. Just wondering, Michael ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41B121B6.1020502 [at] peak.org> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:32:22 -0800 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Number the messages on the list References: In-Reply-To: Michael Cook wrote: > I get the list in digest form. The messages are nicely numbered on the > top. Any chance we could get the messages numbered in the lower portion > of the digest, or even linked? I often spend many minutes trying to find > the message I want to read and sometimes, I hate to admit, give up and > delete the whole digest in frustration. Just wondering, I don't think it's easy - or even possible - to set that up in the list software. But if you're a Windows user, hitting Ctrl-F while you have a documetn (including an e-mail message) open will generate a search box; then you can just type in the subject you're looking for, or a keyword or two, and find the right message almost instantly. -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20041204133535.035a9b68 [at] pop3.kilowatt.com.au> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 13:39:27 +1100 From: Andy Ciddor Subject: Re: portable fixtures In-Reply-To: References: At 03:06 4.12.2004, Karl Ruling wrote: >a urinal (unless it's portable) is a "fixture." It's a >plumbing fixture, but it's a fixture. What about the all mirror urinal in the "Home" nightclub is Sydney? It also has several video screens embedded in it.... I think that may make it an A/V fixture. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 21:47:47 -0500 From: MPTecDir [at] aol.com Subject: Re: RE: High density plastic glides Message-ID: <571A6C99.7C1B9046.00740ECC [at] aol.com> "Immel,Patrick" < Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 21:57:39 -0700 From: Jared Johnson Reply-To: Jared Johnson Subject: Re: Number the messages on the list In-Reply-To: References: or just use gmail. the "hide message" and "show all messages in thread" is really nice. On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:32:22 -0800, Pat Kight wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Michael Cook wrote: > > > I get the list in digest form. The messages are nicely numbered on the > > top. Any chance we could get the messages numbered in the lower portion > > of the digest, or even linked? I often spend many minutes trying to find > > the message I want to read and sometimes, I hate to admit, give up and > > delete the whole digest in frustration. Just wondering, > > I don't think it's easy - or even possible - to set that up in the list > software. But if you're a Windows user, hitting Ctrl-F while you have a > documetn (including an e-mail message) open will generate a search box; > then you can just type in the subject you're looking for, or a keyword or > two, and find the right message almost instantly. > > -- > Pat Kight > kightp [at] peak.org > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <01e401c4d9ca$04d97d80$923fff18 [at] tc.ph.cox.net> From: "qstage" References: Subject: Work Boot Recommendations.... Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 23:25:15 -0700 Hi all, The time has come to retire my pile of worn out boots, and I figured, hell, why not enliven the list with a debate about the merits of various brands of footwear. We all know WFWWD, but for those who like to protect their soles from puncture and support their arches, what say you? thanks, Dylan Smith The Quintessential Stage Tucson, AZ ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 22:23:02 -0800 From: Mat Goebel Reply-To: Mat Goebel Subject: Re: Work Boot Recommendations.... In-Reply-To: References: I've been sporting a pair of wolvering steel-toes for about a year now. When I first got them, I had some problems with my ankle and the steel counter in the heel. Luckily, my friend is a certified pedorthist and was able to take care of me =) One other person I know has reported similar comfort problems with the exact same style/maker of boot, so it may be a design flaw. Either way, they work well for me now. They're so well broken in, they're the shoes I wear all the time. I have a friend who recently bought a pair of caterpillar steel-toes that he's very happy with. They hurt his feet the first couple days he wore them (understandably, breaking them in), but he tells me they're very comfortable now. As far as arch support goes, I have after-market inserts in mine. I don't know what brand they are - my pedorthist friend put them in. Prior to the wolverine's I currently wear, I had a cheap (US$20 on sale) pair of boots from a sporting goods store. They worked okay and were marginally comfortable, but they blew out after about 6 months. I guess I got my money's worth out of them. =) Just my two cents. On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 23:25:15 -0700, qstage wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi all, > > The time has come to retire my pile of worn out boots, and I figured, hell, > why not enliven the list with a debate about the merits of various brands of > footwear. We all know WFWWD, but for those who like to protect their soles > from puncture and support their arches, what say you? > > thanks, > > Dylan Smith > The Quintessential Stage > Tucson, AZ > > -- Mat Goebel Cell: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 01:34:51 EST Subject: Re: Re: Number the messages on the list In a message dated 12/3/4 8:19:43 PM, kightp [at] peak.org wrote: <> And on my antique Mac running AOL 3.0, the Edit menu drops down to reveal a "find in top window" box that will do the same. :) Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41B1747B.3080401 [at] peak.org> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:25:31 -0800 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Number the messages on the list References: In-Reply-To: Jared Johnson wrote: > or just use gmail. the "hide message" and "show all messages in > thread" is really nice. Michael was talking about the digest version of the list, which would show up in gmail as it does elsewhere, as one loooooooong message. (Mozilla has the same features, by the way...) -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41B17469.FCB78EA8 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 03:25:13 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Work Boot Recommendations.... References: qstage wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi all, > > The time has come to retire my pile of worn out boots, and I figured, hell, > why not enliven the list with a debate about the merits of various brands of > footwear. We all know WFWWD, but for those who like to protect their soles > from puncture and support their arches, what say you? > > thanks, My big concern is finding a pair that actually fits. I wear a large and wide size, so finding a pair that actually fits is rather a challenge. I am also a big believer in those blue gel inserts. They help cut down on the sore feet problem enormously. In the US, OSHA requires you to buy your employees safety shoes on a periodic schedule. So having the one of the companies who have the shoe-mobiles come by twice a year is well worth it. You can try on many different brands, comparing prices and features till you find the right one for you. --Dale ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 01:11:37 -0800 Message-ID: <00df01c4d9e1$4477afe0$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-reply-to: Oratre pro nobis. doom ==================================================== A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. 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