Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 8565958; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 03:00:43 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #226 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 03:00:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #226 1. Re: Holidays threads by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 2. Re: Red Skelton Storage by RHolen [at] vinu.edu 3. Rosco/DHA MK4 controller question by "Michael Burris" 4. Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) by Mick Alderson 5. Re: plexi windows (was plexi floor) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 6. Re: Folding and storing an RP screen. by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 7. Re: RP TLC by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 8. Looking to rent Gam SX4 Gobo rotators by JLUCS [at] peddie.org 9. Carpentry work available in NYC by "William Knapp" 10. Re: Looking to rent Gam SX4 Gobo rotators by Stephen Litterst 11. Fire in Tucson Convention Center Arena by CB 12. Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) by CB 13. Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) by CB 14. Folding and storing an RP screen. by CB 15. Re: Looking to rent Gam SX4 Gobo rotators by gregg hillmar 16. Re: Warning: OT (special SPAM at the Shubert Theatre!) by MissWisc [at] aol.com 17. Re: Folding and storing an RP screen. by Greg Bierly *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Holidays threads Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 09:37:18 -0500 Hey gang we could do our own list Nativity Scene, we have lots of Wise Men and Shepherds ...................oh wait, what are we missing? Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ********** E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act. ********** ------------------------------ From: RHolen [at] vinu.edu Subject: Re: Red Skelton Storage Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:52:46 -0500 Message-ID: We have a storage area across campus. We were going to have a trap storage room. One problem we are less then two blocks from the Wabash River and found a great well under the foundation. So storage under the stage went away. The theatre is still going to be one of most beautiful theatres in Indiana. Opening date Nov. 05. Come down and see it anytime. Best, Rick Holen Vincennes University Vincennes, Indiana ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Michael Burris" Subject: Rosco/DHA MK4 controller question Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:53:53 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c4e073$8bf533e0$119a65c0 [at] Lighting> In-Reply-To: Oh wise and powerful list. In the past, I have used my Rosco/DHA MK4 (gobo rotator/effect wheel) controller to dim LEDs and small 12 volt indicator lights. It has served me well so far. For an upcoming production I need to push this technology even further. Does anyone know the current handling capacity of this unit. Or conversely the current draw on the rotators? Thank you. Michael Jon Burris ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41BC8616.5030405 [at] uwosh.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:55:34 -0600 From: Mick Alderson Subject: Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) CB wrote: > So far, squints are losing by a huge margin. I may have to do it by per > capita post, as there are so few sound guys on the list. I dunno if we're > winning because we follow instructions well, we're so polite, or we're so > rare here. I'm thinking its the latter... I'd have to agree with you, Chris. Based on the ones I know, skweeks who follow directions well and are polite ARE pretty rare! :-P Mick Alderson Unreconstructed squint ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <159.46341b8c.2eede4c3 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:15:31 EST Subject: Re: plexi windows (was plexi floor) In a message dated 12/12/04 00:18:53 GMT Standard Time, jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes: > We were just looking at a closed Navy base near here for possible rental of > some of the nice Type 1 magazines. There's a guard shack and two watch > towers next to the magazines and I was surprised the windows are REALLY > thick glass, not Lexan. The base was closed 8 years ago, but Lexan's been > around a lot longer than that. Several people have used them for target > practice, barely dented them. If I remember right, the windows of the Oval Office are six inch thich toughned glass. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <13c.8671c49.2eede642 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:21:54 EST Subject: Re: Folding and storing an RP screen. In a message dated 12/12/04 05:23:59 GMT Standard Time, ben.travis [at] gmail.com writes: > Is there a proper way, or suggested > way in how to store / fold it for a long duration to help to decrease > the wrinkling? The absolute best way is just to fly it out, and leave it henging. Next best is to roll it. Carpet warehouses usually have heavy 4" diameter cardboard tubes around, and rolling it around one of these should keep it uncreased. This assumes that you have somewhere to store such a thing. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Subject: Re: RP TLC Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:46:53 -0500 on 12/12/04 Ben wrote: Message-ID: <486dbc510412112123708207a6 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 00:23:24 -0500 From: Ben Reply-To: Ben Subject: Folding and storing an RP screen. Hello. Quick question regarding the storage of an RP. We are loading out our current configuration of our black box tomorrow. A new addition to our config this year was a Black RP. It came to us just folded in a box straight off of another show. We now need to store it until next year. Our next semester config is in the round, so we have no use for it. Is there a proper way, or suggested way in how to store / fold it for a long duration to help to decrease the wrinkling? Thanks -ben -- Benjamin Travis ben.travis [at] gmail.com 781.223.5769 (m) 501.640.0371 (f) btravis [at] vtext.com (sms) Ben: With all due respect to the answers you gotten so far - and many sound right - I would still suggest you contact the manufacturer ( Rosco?) and ask their advice. Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ********** E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act. ********** ------------------------------ Subject: Looking to rent Gam SX4 Gobo rotators From: JLUCS [at] peddie.org Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:54:02 -0500 Message-ID: Hey All, I am looking to rent 4 - 6 Gam SX4 gobo rotators for our WIZ production. I am having a difficult time finding anyone that rents them. Is there anyone here that has leads on this. I found one location, but found the rental price to be high and looked at renting a couple of VL1000 Vari-lites and board for about 1/2 to 2/3 the price. The down side of renting the VL1000's is the programming time versus using SX4s. You can contact me off-line at Jlucs [at] peddie.org or respond back to the list. Thanks and happy holidays..... If I can wrap up this little project before the break starts I may be able too, otherwise I may have to throw another lump of coal in the furnace and work through it. Blah hum-bug. --JEL-- <>< The Peddie School Theatre Tech Director Hightstown, NJ ------------------------------ From: "William Knapp" Subject: Carpentry work available in NYC Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:58:17 -0500 Organization: Cunningham Dance Message-ID: Hey, Once again we need some help with road boxes. Any decent carpenter in New York City who get to the west Village. Experience building road boxes. Nice rate for about a week's work starting immediately. Best to contact me on the mobile. Thanks, Will Knapp ---- Will Knapp Production Manager Merce Cunningham Dance Company 55 Bethune St. New York, NY 10014 212-255-8240 X20 mobile: 646-732-9274 mailto:will [at] thebase.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:16:22 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Looking to rent Gam SX4 Gobo rotators In-reply-to: Message-id: <1368.172.171.68.208.1102886182.squirrel [at] 172.171.68.208> References: > --------------------------------------------------- > I am looking to rent 4 - 6 Gam SX4 gobo rotators for our WIZ production. > I > am having a difficult time finding anyone that rents them. Is there > anyone > here that has leads on this. I believe that GAM rents their effects directly. You might want to contact Steve Hoffman at GAM, he's a frequent list lurker and has been the person I've talked to about renting the FilmFX and GAMTorch. Steve Litterst ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041212165708.0180aba8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:57:08 From: CB Subject: Fire in Tucson Convention Center Arena >Being a former Stagehand Supervisor at this facility, >Chris B... I wasn't even near the building this time!!! I ain't providing no alibis for now one. I know a bunch of the art crew, I'm betting it was a roach dropped behind scenery. Just kidding, I'm sure that his re-hab went just fine... My favorites: "then had to contend with six live rattlesnakes loose on the set" and All six snakes were accounted for" Only in Tucson. "The biggest losses were incurred by the movie production company, which lost cameras, film, computers and various movie equipment" "The fire was not suspicious and there were no pyrotechnics or planned explosions on the set" and "Filmmakers had constructed the mine-shaft set and were filming a scene in which a group of Vietnamese miners runs through the shaft as it collapses around them" and "The production crew was using a machine to simulate smoke and dust". "Vongtheung said many of the film extras thought the explosion and smoke were part of the movie. But, he said, the director started telling everyone to "run, run."". All very dissapointing when I discovered the nwe Viet-Namese/Sushi place on Congress St. was just a front. I was looking at having a new eatery to hang out in. Looked real authentic, too! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041212170224.0180aba8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:02:24 From: CB Subject: Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) >Ah, well, if you are relying on manufacturere's specifications. I have, alas, >met too many of them to place great faith in them. Yes, we all know that consumer gear specs are a bit optomistic, but I still don't see them making a spec twenty times what they can deliver. I know that the 36 mpg sticker is optomistic, and "your mileage may vary", but if I bought 40 mpg and got 2, I'd have a case. Still doesn't explain where you get a 30-1 contrast ratio for TV yet, though. Odd how we've strayed from that point once specs were available for those aren't familiar with TV technology to peruse at will. Explain the 30-1 ceiling for television to me again, Frank? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041212170348.0180aba8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:03:48 From: CB Subject: Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) >Fine. I think that you are right. Now, tell me how this relates to film >exposure, and to TV dis[lays. Don't fall for it, Charlie! He didn't understand it the first time, he won't understand it a second, and he'll just argue with you anyways. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041212171315.0180aba8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:13:15 From: CB Subject: Folding and storing an RP screen. >Is there a proper way, or suggested >way in how to store / fold it for a long duration to help to decrease >the wrinkling? Everone will tell you to roll it. All this does is make the wrinkles random, and make the thing hard to store. If its a FastFold, Dalite, or similar (sewn into a pleather border with snaps all around it): Fold it top to bottom, pleather to pleather. Fold it top to bottom again, screen material to screen material (i.e., don't fold it all the way up, just to where the pleather starts. Pleather and RP material shouldn't meet, and that goes double for the snaps!) Wash, rinse, repeat until you have a strip that is as wide as the bag it came in. If there is no bag, get one, make one, whatever. Fold the left over to the right, pleather to pleather. Fold the left over to the right again, RP mterial to RP material (again, just short of the pleather) Bag it.] Next time you use it, get the thing out early and aim a coupla 575W or better lights at it until it reaches just above room temperature and stretch it on the frame. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: gregg hillmar Subject: Re: Looking to rent Gam SX4 Gobo rotators Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:21:36 -0500 I just rented a bunch of rotators from Main Lights in Delaware. Tho they were part of a whole package, the price did not strike me as out of line. You might check them out. I've also had good luck with Fisher Theatrical in Columbia MD, tho I cannot say for sure if they rent rotators or not... HTH g. _____________________ gregg hillmar scenic & lighting design portfolio & life as we know it: http://www.hillmardesign.com "Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching." Satchel Paige On Dec 12, 2004, at 1:54 PM, JLUCS [at] peddie.org wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Hey All, > > I am looking to rent 4 - 6 Gam SX4 gobo rotators for our WIZ > production. I > am having a difficult time finding anyone that rents them. Is there > anyone > here that has leads on this. I found one location, but found the > rental > price to be high and looked at renting a couple of VL1000 Vari-lites > and > board for about 1/2 to 2/3 the price. The down side of renting the > VL1000's is the programming time versus using SX4s. > > You can contact me off-line at Jlucs [at] peddie.org or respond back > to the > list. > > Thanks and happy holidays..... If I can wrap up this little project > before the break starts I may be able too, otherwise I may have to > throw > another lump of coal in the furnace and work through it. Blah hum-bug. > > --JEL-- <>< > The Peddie School > Theatre Tech Director > Hightstown, NJ > ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:21:07 EST Subject: Re: Warning: OT (special SPAM at the Shubert Theatre!) <> Gonna make it diffiuclt to tour... Kristi ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <8F8ADBB6-4CC3-11D9-B305-000D936BFA94 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Folding and storing an RP screen. Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:57:59 -0500 > Ignore the wrinkling. ( But don't wad it up either) fold it so the > metal > snaps on the edges are not touching the actual screen. I was taught 1)fold the screen in half 2)then almost in half again so the folded edge just meets the black border without touching it. Depending on size repeat step 2. The fold the opposite direction in the same manner. This keeps the snaps from touching the RP surface. Any moisture can cause the steel snaps to rust and cause unfixable marks. I see many rental screens come with sheets of tissue paper between layers of the folds if you think the snaps might possibly touch the screen surface. I'll ditto the wrinkle thing. Most fastfold designs are stretched enough that most wrinkles will be gone in less than a day of hanging. Good luck Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #226 *****************************