Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 17366982; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 03:00:19 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #283 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 03:00:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #283 1. Re: piano tuning by "Alf Sauve" 2. Re: silk by Barney Simon 3. Censorship by Dawn Ashley 4. Re: Censorship by "Matthew Breton" 5. Proper sizing of neutrals by "Curt Mortimore" 6. Re: Proper sizing of neutrals by "Rob Carovillano" 7. Re: Proper sizing of neutrals by "James, Brian" 8. Re: Censorship by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <05fe01c50a67$8143a350$0400a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" References: Subject: Re: piano tuning Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:44:13 -0500 Keith, I'm not talking about the initial pitch of A above middle C, but how the keys in the lower and upper octaves (0,1,& 2, and 5,6, & 7) are tuned. Pianos can be tuned with the upper octaves are progressively sharper and the lower progressively flatter, which generally sounds better to the ear (this is the "standard"). Alternatively, a piano could be tuned to a perfect scale, that is perfect harmonics of lower octaves, but the intervals (partials) will clash. So, depending on the arrangement and the style of play, a pianist might want something between these extremes. So, not looking for something other than 440 but for a temperament request in a rider. Anybody? Alf ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 8:47 PM Subject: Re: piano tuning > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > In a message dated 2/3/05 8:43:43 PM, alf [at] sauve.org writes: > >>Question still stands. Who has first hand knowledge of the rider for some >> >> >>of the bigger names? In regards to piano tuning? > > > i would say in terms of pop stars,, I would doubt that any of them ask > for > anything other than A440, , > > Classical artists, , soloists in recital might ask for a special tuning > other > than 440, , but only bigger names would actually get what they asked for,, > smaller names would probably get laughed at by presenters. Classical > artists > doing concerti with a symphony MIGHT get a special tuning, , but they > would have > to be huge stars to get a pitch other than the one that the orchestra > traditionally used, , > > it would come down to "clout" > > keith > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4202EF84.7030809 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 22:44:04 -0500 From: Barney Simon Subject: Re: silk References: In-Reply-To: rodok [at] telus.net wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >I'm looking for a source for large sheets of silk, 30 or 40 feet square. Light >weight or medium wt. >Any ideas? >Rod Osiowy >Wild Theatre >Cranbrook, BC >250-426-5241 > > > > Sale? Rent? Many of us here on the list make those all the time for kabuki drops and film work. Real silk usually comes only 45" wide, but we can always use synthetics, the FR will still be treated (I cannot think of an IFR synthetic silk this second) but the synthetic will be less expensive. Barney Simon JC Hansen Co. Drops, Drops, and Dance Floors NYC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 00:09:41 -0500 From: Dawn Ashley Subject: Censorship Message-Id: <7ced7fa1.c92d630f.82f8700 [at] mirapoint.uc.edu> So this doesn't have much to do with stagecraft, necessarily, but it would be very helpful to me... I'm writing a research paper on censorship in the theatre (all around the world, any time), so I thought I'd ask...has anyone ever run into problems? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated and I promise if I use your comments I will properly cite you! Thanks! Dawn Ashley TD student College-Conservatory of Music ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: RE: Censorship Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 00:24:53 -0500 >I'm writing a research paper on censorship in the theatre >(all around the world, any time), so I thought I'd ask...has >anyone ever run into problems? Any feedback would be greatly >appreciated and I promise if I use your comments I will >properly cite you! Rather broad topic; but since you mention it, the Boston Phoenix has an article in this week's issue on Edward Albee's "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?", now playing at the Wilbur Theater as part of its pre-Broadway run. "[I]n 1963, the city censor required the deletion of all taking of the Lord’s name in vain. The play’s not-infrequent explosions of 'Christ' and 'Jesus' were deemed 'highly offensive' and had to go." More at http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/arts/theater/documents/04440681.asp . And I'm certain plenty of other source material abounds. -- Matt ====== _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Subject: Proper sizing of neutrals Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 23:56:00 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Curt Mortimore" All, I am having difficulty searching the archives so forgive me if I am asking a question that has been discussed to death. I have inherited a brand-new-never-been-plugged-in 24 channel ETC Sensor portable dimmer rack. Bought new and been sitting in the corner for at least a year. There isn't anywhere to plug it in. By chance there is a 600A three-phase disconnect that previously fed some air conditioning equipment (air conditioning now comes from a chiller plant across campus) available for feeding my dimmer rack. There is about 170 feet of distance between the 600A disconnect and the studio theatre where we are proposing to install a 200A three-phase, company switch to power the dimmer rack. This project will be done by facilities services here on campus. There was mention of under-sizing the neutral between the 600A panel and the new company switch. I've thrown a red flag but I am not exactly sure why. I have heard of 200% neutrals, double neutrals, oversized neutrals and the like to power dimmer racks and other switching power supplies but I am not exactly sure what all of this means. The Facilities Services guys looked at me funny and said something to the effect of "We'll make sure and size the wire according to the load." But I got the feeling they thought I was off my rocker, which may be true. My guess is that this is probably a lot more complex than I anticipate but I need a direction to go in. Ideally what I am looking for is advice on what to say to the guys here on campus that will steer them in the direction they need to go to properly design this system. Does anyone have advice that may help me? Thank you! Curtis L. Mortimore Graceland University 1 University Place Lamoni, IA 50140 (641) 784-5265 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000401c50a80$6c6be870$6501a8c0 [at] LAPTOP> From: "Rob Carovillano" References: Subject: Re: Proper sizing of neutrals Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 01:11:52 -0500 The high end power stuff always gets me confused as well. I have yet to find a very clear understandable description of it all. Any takers? Rob Carovillano Technical Director - Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University (610) 660-1044 rcarovillano [at] verizon.net ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Proper sizing of neutrals Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 01:38:38 -0500 Message-ID: <89DE71075FCD6E44A4D117FBFBBD801CE97D3F [at] fangorn.cc.vt.edu> From: "James, Brian" Try the NEC, articles 518 and 520. Both have some specific information = about 3 phase systems and the supply neutral.=20 Article 520.53 may be particularly useful (page 424 in the 2002 NEC, bottom right of the page or page 433 in the = 2005 NEC, left side of the page). Both are under (O) Neutral number 1 I am by no means a code authority, but it may be a starting point. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Curt Mortimore Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:56 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Proper sizing of neutrals For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- All, I am having difficulty searching the archives so forgive me if I am asking a question that has been discussed to death. I have inherited a brand-new-never-been-plugged-in 24 channel ETC Sensor portable dimmer rack. Bought new and been sitting in the corner for at least a year. There isn't anywhere to plug it in. By chance there is a 600A three-phase disconnect that previously fed some air conditioning equipment (air conditioning now comes from a chiller plant across campus) available for feeding my dimmer rack. There is about 170 feet of distance between the 600A disconnect and the studio theatre where we are proposing to install a 200A three-phase, company switch to power the dimmer rack. This project will be done by facilities services here on campus. There was mention of under-sizing the neutral between the 600A panel and the new company switch. I've thrown a red flag but I am not exactly sure why. I have heard of 200% neutrals, double neutrals, oversized neutrals and the like to power dimmer racks and other switching power supplies but I am not exactly sure what all of this means. The Facilities Services guys looked at me funny and said something to the effect of "We'll make sure and size the wire according to the load." But I got the feeling they thought I was off my rocker, which may be true. My guess is that this is probably a lot more complex than I anticipate but I need a direction to go in. Ideally what I am looking for is advice on what to say to the guys here on campus that will steer them in the direction they need to go to properly design this system. Does anyone have advice that may help me? Thank you! Curtis L. Mortimore Graceland University 1 University Place Lamoni, IA 50140 (641) 784-5265 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Censorship Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 05:37:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000301c50aa5$90474a80$6701a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > I'm writing a research paper on censorship in the theatre > (all around the world, any time), so I thought I'd ask...has > anyone ever run into problems? Do a web search on "The Cradle Will Rock". ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #283 *****************************