Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 20702069; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:47:04 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #325 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:46:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #325 1. DMX Channels by "Thad Kramer" 2. Re: Listers Talents by "Fred Schoening, Jr." 3. Currency on USITT Expo floor by "Immel,Patrick" 4. Re: Peeps... sigh by "Paul Guncheon" 5. Re: PDA's by "Paul Guncheon" 6. Help Looking for a part. ASAP by "Jonathan Wills" 7. Re: Peeps... sigh by "LES LIND" 8. Re: Peeps... sigh by Stephen Litterst 9. Re: Peeps... sigh by "Immel,Patrick" 10. Listers Talents by "LES LIND" 11. Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 12. Re: Peeps... sigh by Adam Fitchett 13. Re: Peeps... sigh by "Paul Schreiner" 14. Re: Peeps... sigh by IAEG [at] aol.com 15. Re: Peeps... sigh by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 16. 520i by "jknipple" 17. Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor by Barney Simon 18. Re: Subject: Summer Trap Rebuild project by "Bll Conner" 19. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by Stuart Wheaton 20. Re: 520i by "Storms, Randy" 21. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by "Paul Schreiner" 22. Re: Peeps... sigh by "Merel Ray-Pfeifer" 23. Re: Peeeeeps by "Jon Ares" 24. Re: PDA's by "Nigel Worsley" 25. Re: Peeps... sigh by "Joe Golden" 26. Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor by "richard j. archer" 27. Re: PDA's by "Jon Ares" 28. Re: Listers Talents by "Jon Ares" 29. Re: PDA's by "Jon Ares" 30. Re: 520i by "Klyph Stanford" 31. Re: PDA's by "Steve B." 32. Re: video by Stuart Wheaton 33. Re: PDA's by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" 34. Job Posting - Sound Engineer by "Shakespeare & Company Production Manager" 35. Re: LX board monitor compatibility by Ford H Sellers 36. Re: Peeeeeeps by "Josh Ratty" 37. Re: 520i by "C. Andrew Dunning" 38. Re: Peeeeeps by Nicholas Kuhl 39. Re: Costumers by "Bryan H. Ackler" 40. Re: Listers Talents by "Don Taco" 41. Re: PDA's by "Delbert Hall" 42. Re: 520i by Samuel Jones 43. Re: Peeeeeeps by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 44. Re: LX board monitor compatibility by Greg Bierly 45. Why carry equipment? by Michael Heinicke 46. Re: Why carry equipment? by Steve Larson 47. Re: Why carry equipment? by Mark O'Brien 48. Re: PDA's by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 49. Re: Why carry equipment? by Bill Sapsis 50. Re: PDA's by Bill Sapsis 51. Stage Expo, Stagecraft stickers by Jerry Durand 52. Re: PDA's by "Ronnie Thevenot" 53. Re: Why carry equipment? by "Paul Schreiner" 54. Re: Why carry equipment? by Stephen Litterst 55. Re: audience signage by CB 56. Re: audience signage by "Don Taco" 57. Re: Peeeeeeps by "Josh Ratty" 58. Re: Why carry equipment? by "Josh Ratty" 59. Re: Why carry equipment? by John Bracewell 60. Re: Peeps... sigh by Greg Williams 61. Re: Why carry equipment? by Dale Farmer 62. Re: PDA's by "Andy Leviss" 63. Need info on doing Peter Pan by "Gray Chontelle" 64. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" 65. Re: Peeps... sigh by "Merel Ray-Pfeifer" 66. Re: Why carry equipment? by Mark O'Brien 67. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan by Greg Bierly 68. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan by IAEG [at] aol.com 69. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" 70. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan by Andrew Vance 71. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan by "Delbert Hall" 72. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 73. Re: DMX Channels by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 74. Re: DMX Channels by Herrick Goldman 75. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 76. Re: Why carry equipment? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 77. Re: Why carry equipment? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 78. Re: Why carry equipment? by Greg Persinger 79. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by Brian Munroe 80. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by "Andy Leviss" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thad Kramer" Subject: DMX Channels Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:17:50 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: FYI, The Source 4 Revolution doesn't necessarily use all 31 channels. It depends on which modules you're using in them. The 31 channels are only for the shutters. For example, if you're only using one bay and an iris I think it drops down to around 17-20. I don't remember off the top of my head. I've got a touring rig for AIDA (which is currently on break until April) that has 13 Revolutions, 60 Apollo SmartColor Scrollers, 2 Hazers, and 6 Cyberlight CX units. That eats up pretty much an entire universe in itself, and then I have a second universe controlling my 144 dimmers plus about 15 or so house dimmers we end up using for our FOH positions. That translates into using about 8 outputs on two separate rack mounted Optos and a whole lot of DMX cable. Oh, and incase you're curious, I use an Expression 3 linked via MIDI Show Control to a laptop running HOG PC to control my movers. Thad Kramer, The Light Fantastic, Inc. Dayton, Ohio W (937) 253-4433 F (937) 253-5722 C (614) 477-2225 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <26500170.1110549211782.JavaMail.root [at] wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:53:31 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: "Fred Schoening, Jr." Reply-To: "Fred Schoening, Jr." Subject: Re: Listers Talents Cushy TD position?!? You mean they don't have to work 14+ hour days all the time? Where do I sign up?! ; ) Fred TD, Dallas Theater Center Dallas, Texas, USA -----Original Message----- A few years later I gave up on some cushy TD position ------------------------------ Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE3902625DF72 [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu> From: "Immel,Patrick" Subject: Currency on USITT Expo floor Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:04:17 -0600 Hello all, I am making some final plans for Toronto and I got to wondering. On the expo floor (not the food vendors, but the actual display areas) you can buy books, little tools/gadgets, ie. Will these vendors be taking Canadian currency or US money. Just wondering! Pat Immel Northwest Missouri State University ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 04:19:12 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh Message-id: <006901c52645$4d5174b0$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: <> I had hopes that the list would come up with an identification slightly more menacing. Oh well. Laters, Paul "Oh my god... Quick, Get back... I thinks its poised to spring" Tom peeped. Erm... I don't think that one works. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 04:23:26 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: PDA's Message-id: <006d01c52645$e53a0170$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: I'm not trying to start something... believe me. I truly want this information. I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data assistant... what do members of the list recommend. I would like to be able to link to my computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book. Do these things have web access through cell phnes? Thanks, Paul "As soon as the rain stops, we'll break camp," said Tom intently. ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jonathan Wills" Subject: Help Looking for a part. ASAP Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:24:48 -0500 Organization: Wills Lighting & Stage Message-ID: <0MKz1m-1D9l4H1g44-0003S8 [at] mrelay.perfora.net> Hello, All I am looking for a control module for a Lite-Puter DX1220. I am specifically looking for the DP-5 control module. It sits on the right hand side of the dimmer rack. If you have one or know of a US distributor please call me. I really need some one who has one state-side for an overnight shipment. Please contact me off list as I only receive the digest version. Thank you, Jonathan Wills Wills Lighting and Stage www.WillsLighting.com Toll Free 866.909.4557 Local 423.559.0606 Fax 423.559.0071 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 3/9/2005 ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:26:07 -0500 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh What could be much more menacing than a puffed up peep? Just stick the sugary blob on your neck with a little stage blood. "The Attack of the Menacing Easter Peeps". Les Lind, TD NHS Dramatics Northeastern High School Manchester, PA >>> paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net 3/11/05 9:19 AM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- <> I had hopes that the list would come up with an identification slightly more menacing. Oh well. Laters, Paul "Oh my god... Quick, Get back... I thinks its poised to spring" Tom peeped. Erm... I don't think that one works. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:27:01 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh In-reply-to: Message-id: <3258.172.144.209.203.1110551221.squirrel [at] 172.144.209.203> References: > --------------------------------------------------- > <> > > I had hopes that the list would come up with an identification slightly > more menacing. We could slap an eyepatch on them an make them Pirate Peeps? Steve Litterst ------------------------------ Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE3902625DF76 [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu> From: "Immel,Patrick" Subject: RE: Peeps... sigh Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:32:25 -0600 Pirates are menacing. Could they be "evil" pirates? Or we could have peeps with fricken' laser beams attached to there heads? That's menacing! Pat Immel > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Litterst [mailto:slitterst [at] ithaca.edu] > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:27 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > <> > > > > I had hopes that the list would come up with an identification > > slightly more menacing. > > We could slap an eyepatch on them an make them Pirate Peeps? > > Steve Litterst > ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:37:33 -0500 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Listers Talents Thank you all for your input into this thread. It made for quite interesting reading the past few cold days here in central Pennsylvania. I too have had several jobs in the past. I'm still not quite sure what I want to be when I grow up. Lucky for me I have a wife that has had a teaching position for the last 32 years while I've been floundering. That will all come to a screeching halt in a few years as she informed me that I better have a real job by the time she retires. Pressure is on. ...a real job... a real job? Les Les Lind, TD NHS Dramatics Northeastern High School Manchester, PA ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:41:30 GMT Subject: Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor Message-Id: <20050311.064218.11960.137421 [at] webmail02.lax.untd.com> The previous Calgary and Toronto conventions had primarily US vendors which accepted US currency. The USITT National Office booth, which sells both great new books and USITT-logo items, accepts dollars and credit cards. In fact, Visa/MC/AE cards are accepted worldwide at most conventions and hotels and arguably provide the best exchange rates in any case. /s/ Richard Hello all, I am making some final plans for Toronto and I got to wondering. On the expo floor (not the food vendors, but the actual display areas) you can buy books, little tools/gadgets, ie. Will these vendors be taking Canadian currency or US money. Just wondering! Pat Immel ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4231AE86.50408 [at] fitchtech.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:43:18 -0500 From: Adam Fitchett Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh References: In-Reply-To: That was great! Off to a great start on this Friday, now to go do battle for my life (or rather my education) from something other than peeps (and far more evil: administrators).

-Adam Fitchett


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Pirates are menacing.

Could they be "evil" pirates?

Or we could have peeps with fricken' laser beams attached to there heads?

That's menacing!

Pat Immel 

  
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From: Stephen Litterst [mailto:slitterst [at] ithaca.edu] 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:27 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh

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<<Maybe listers could wear a PEEP proudly on the floor.>>

I had hopes that the list would come up with an identification 
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We could slap an eyepatch on them an make them Pirate Peeps?

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------------------------------ Subject: RE: Peeps... sigh Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:01:40 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C750 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > <> >=20 > I had hopes that the list would come up with an=20 > identification slightly more menacing. What about a connection with something a little more stagecraft-ish, like "Sing Faster"? I'm picturing peeps in Viking helmets brandishing double-bladed candy axes... ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:05:41 EST Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh In a message dated 3/11/05 10:02:49 AM, pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu writes: << I'm picturing peeps in Viking helmets brandishing double-bladed candy axes... >> Are those "double-bladed candy axes" approved for stage combat ? keith ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:04:46 GMT Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh Message-Id: <20050311.070536.11960.137817 [at] webmail02.lax.untd.com> I'll settle for the 'Hamster' sticker created for LDI, if its all the same to you... /s/ Richard <> ------------------------------ Subject: 520i Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:08:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: "jknipple" At the risk of starting another ETC vs Strand thread... Could someone who's switched from an ETC Expression to a 500 series = Strand board email me off list? We're thinking about switching to a 520i = when the new building is completed, so I'm just looking for some = thoughts/opinions, both positive and negative. TIA Jim James Knipple =A0 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4231B4F7.60108 [at] josephchansen.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:10:47 -0500 From: Barney Simon Subject: Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor References: In-Reply-To: ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote: >... and arguably provide the best exchange rates in any case. >/s/ Richard > I just received an updated terms and conditions on my CC's that states they are going to add a conversion fee to historically favorable exchange rates. I'm anxious to see how that affects life. I still like using my ATM card internationally for good rates, until the banks screw that up. Barney Simon JC Hansen Co Drapes, Drops, and Dance Floor ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002501c5264c$9fc36580$8d01a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bll Conner" From: "Bll Conner" Subject: Re: Subject: Summer Trap Rebuild project Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:11:27 -0600 There are several approaches. Were I the td, my preference would be to simply frame the trap area like a floor in a house: 2X8's up and down stage, sub floor, finish floor. I'd probably set a 2x8 band sill into the slab edge with a removable anchor and use joist hangers for the 2X8's. This is quick, cheap, and can be easily modified with a circular saw and rebuilt quickly and inexpensively. For most other than myself, I'd look at the new StageRight products that use a single membrane ply deck. Probably this would require replacing 2x4 ledgers with new steel shelf angles with the locator nodes attached. Span up and down stage with four 4 X 8's (though I'd look in drawings at five 3'2" X 8' which gives you a trap center - or - three 4 X 8' and two 2 X 8's with nodes for all of them in any position). You didn't say what the finish floor was but these could have strip flooring attached - not that I like to do that. You could build your own similar to StageRight scheme. I'd recommend either steel framing on steel shelf angles or site built stressed skin on steel shelf angles. Either system would be more dimensionally stable than 2X and potentially lighter in weight. I don't know how important the resiliency of the neoprene pads is to your program. Adding pads to scheme 1 is tough but that system has some resiliency built in. Scheme 2 would require a fussy shelf angle with separate node bar on top of it - sitting on pads - and held in plan by pins or some locator that allows vertical but not horizontal movement. Third scheme is easy - just place pads under corners of each section. Hold downs are a little tricky to get them to do their job but not be loose or noisy. God luck. Post some pictures when you're done and let us know how they perform. Regards, Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4231B74B.1080408 [at] fuse.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:20:43 -0500 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU References: In-Reply-To: Paul Schreiner wrote: > FWIW, Cyberlights use 20... > I take it this acronym means "Frank Wood is Wrong?" Very useful, will save hours of typing. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: 520i Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:12:44 -0800 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B7323A31 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" Jim - Why would you do this? I've used a 520i daily for the last five = years or so, and it's OK for 90% of what I do, but if I was given a = choice I'd take the ETC in a heartbeat... -- r. Randy Storms, TD Belllingham HS Theatre rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of jknipple Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:08 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: 520i For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- At the risk of starting another ETC vs Strand thread... Could someone who's switched from an ETC Expression to a 500 series = Strand board email me off list? We're thinking about switching to a 520i = when the new building is completed, so I'm just looking for some = thoughts/opinions, both positive and negative. TIA Jim James Knipple =A0 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 ------------------------------ Subject: RE: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:15:27 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C751 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > > FWIW, Cyberlights use 20... >=20 > Ouch! What do they do with them all? Brightness, coarse and=20 > fine pan, tilt,=20 > zoom, and focus. Colour change makes one more. After that, I=20 > suppose you're=20 > into gobo selectors and rotators. But I still can't count twenty. Pan (coarse and fine, 2 channels) Tilt (coarse and fine, 2 channels) Color wheel C/M/Y mix (3 channels, one for each) Static litho selection Rotating litho selection Rotation speed/direction Zoom Focus Iris Effects wheel Frost Shutter Intensity Motor speed Special control (home/shutdown) ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:16:20 -0600 From: "Merel Ray-Pfeifer" Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh Have you seen the blood red peeps that are out now? Those could be scarey in the right light. Or the black cats they had out on Halloween? At the local Target there is a whole section in the Easter asle of Peep-mania. I especially liked the Peep hats. Yes, it was a peep big enough to wear. Merel > > > <> > > > > I had hopes that the list would come up with an identification > > slightly more menacing. > > We could slap an eyepatch on them an make them Pirate Peeps? > > Steve Litterst > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002901c52651$0284ef00$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Peeeeeps Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:43:02 -0800 > Try working with some young teens after they ingest 47 (the local record) > Pixie Sticks simultaneously. And for the love... do NOT snort them. Yeah, nothing's worse than walking around with that purple or orange crust on your nose. Reminds me of the gradeschoolers with the purple, red or blue felt pen marks under his nose - from sniffing those fruit 'flavored' pens. (Do they still make those? Talk about yummy.) -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <06b001c5264e$b61a2b00$0c00a8c0 [at] Nigellaptop> From: "Nigel Worsley" References: Subject: Re: PDA's Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:26:34 -0000 Paul Guncheon wrote: > I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data assistant... what > do members of the list recommend. I would like to be able to link to my > computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book. Do these things > have web access through cell phnes? Pocket PCs need third party software to sync with a Mac, there is an example here: http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_pocketpc.php There may well be others, I don't use Macs so I haven't looked. Web and email access is possible through a mobile phone, or anything else that it is connected to eg. when connected to a PC for synchronisation it can use the PC's internet connection ( not sure why you would want to though! ). Can't speak for Palms, as I haver never used them. I had a play around with a Sony Clie, but the idiosyncratic user interface put me off very quickly. Nigel Worsley ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Peeps... sigh Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:38:26 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" Just go to Durand Interstellar to get those. >=20 > I'll settle for the 'Hamster' sticker created for LDI, if its=20 > all the same to you... /s/ Richard >=20 >=20 > <> >=20 >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:52:48 -0500 From: "richard j. archer" Subject: Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > > In fact, Visa/MC/AE cards are accepted worldwide at most >conventions and hotels and arguably provide the best exchange rates >in any case. >/s/ Richard Check your credit card agreements. Some have begun charging you fees for foreign currency purchases in addition to an exchange rate that favors the card issuer (although, as Richard says is usually pretty good) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <005901c52652$a5c82be0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: PDA's Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:54:46 -0800 > I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data assistant... > what > do members of the list recommend. I would like to be able to link to my > computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book. Do these > things > have web access through cell phnes? I have a Pa1mOne Zire 72 and like it a lot. I don't have a cell phone, but the Zire can connect to the i-net (and mail, etc) via Bluetooth and a Bluetooth phone. It comes with a lot of pre-configured connections for various popular phones. Because I'm a masochist, I tried setting up my Zire to surf the net via Bluetooth and my laptop... talk about extreme pain. Too darn many variables - why did it work yesterday, and not today? Why does it say my Zire is unavailable? But I have heard from others that the Bluetooth to the phone thing works like a charm. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <006701c52653$3eafd920$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Listers Talents Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:59:02 -0800 > Thank you all for your input into this thread. It made for quite > interesting reading the past few cold days here in central > Pennsylvania. Come to sunny Oregon!! Mid-seventies for days! Hasn't rained in... what, a year? (Seems like it, as I look out on a snowy mountain that looks as nude as it does in July.) The trees are in bloom, the bugs and ants are out, and the neighboring volcano does a show daily on the hour. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <008601c52654$0ad53360$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: PDA's Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:04:45 -0800 > Pocket PCs need third party software to sync with a Mac, there is an > example here: > > http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_pocketpc.php > > There may well be others, I don't use Macs so I haven't looked. The Palms come with sync software for both Mac and Win. > I had a play around with a Sony Clie, but the idiosyncratic user interface > put me off > very quickly. Personally I'd stay away from Sony Clie - Sony announced recently they're exiting the PDA market. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ From: "Klyph Stanford" Subject: RE: 520i Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:05:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I can actually think of quite a number of reasons, but I don't want to = start that debate yet again. Klyph Stanford =20 336.575.7235 =20 "Let's go get drunk on the light once more." Georges Seurat -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Storms, Randy Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:13 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: 520i For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Jim - Why would you do this? I've used a 520i daily for the last five = years or so, and it's OK for 90% of what I do, but if I was given a choice I'd take the ETC in a heartbeat... -- r. Randy Storms, TD Belllingham HS Theatre rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of jknipple Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:08 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: 520i For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- At the risk of starting another ETC vs Strand thread... Could someone who's switched from an ETC Expression to a 500 series = Strand board email me off list? We're thinking about switching to a 520i when = the new building is completed, so I'm just looking for some = thoughts/opinions, both positive and negative. TIA Jim James Knipple =A0 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:14:19 -0500 From: "Steve B." Subject: Re: PDA's Message-id: <000701c52655$617c2a10$6401a8c0 [at] SBFF> References: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Guncheon" > > I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data assistant... > what > do members of the list recommend. I would like to be able to link to my > computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book. Do these > things > have web access through cell phnes? Mac and PC ?. Can't say for the Pocket PC devices, in terms of how well they play with Mac, but the Palm units are interchangeable. My recommendation is a Treo 600 or 650, depending on your cell carrier. It's a Palm OS PDA, plus phone with web and text messaging, as well as camera phone (more useful then you might think). The 650 series is the improved model - better screen resolution, somewhat better button design, better camera, Bluetooth, etc... available from Sprint, Cingular and others. The older 600 model (still a nice unit) is the model Verizon uses, though you might find a great deal on a 600 from Sprint or Cingular as they switch models. Writing ?. There's a ton of 3rd party software to interface Palm/Word files, though I'd recommend a dedicated Palm keyboard unit for serious typing. The Palms are not, unfortunately, capable of becoming a WiFi RFU, as some of the Pocket PC devices are capable of.... (sigh). Steve Bailey Brooklyn College ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4231B95D.4030103 [at] fuse.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:29:33 -0500 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: video References: In-Reply-To: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/03/05 22:32:02 GMT Standard Time, WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU > writes: > > >> Nine different cameras going to some 20 or 30 monitors (or more) over 4 >> different floors and at opposite ends of the building. > > > Fine. How did you do it? > > Frank Wood > Gee Frank, in the original thread, 8 hours before you posted this, he explained in considerable detail... ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" Subject: RE: PDA's Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:32:37 -0500 I like my palm Pilot but am planning on getting a Treo6550 which combines the phone and PDA Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati -----Original Message----- From: Paul Guncheon [mailto:paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:23 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: PDA's For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I'm not trying to start something... believe me. I truly want this information. I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data assistant... what do members of the list recommend. I would like to be able to link to my computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book. Do these things have web access through cell phnes? Thanks, Paul "As soon as the rain stops, we'll break camp," said Tom intently. ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Shakespeare & Company Production Manager" Cc: THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM (Discussion list for people working in sound for Live Theatre.) Subject: Job Posting - Sound Engineer Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:33:15 -0500 Message-ID: Sound Engineer/Designer sought for an Equity L.O.A. 8 show, 3 stage season at Shakespeare & Company. Contract runs from May 2nd through August 21st. Engineer will assist composers and designers, act as the designer for a dance production, and co-ordinate, implement and maintain all sound. Will also oversee main-stage board-op, and be responsible for tracking budget on all shows. Knowledge of SFX helpful. Housing available, local transportation negotiable, though preferred candidates will have own transportation. Salary commensurate with experience. Experience in fast paced Summer Theater helpful. E.O.E. Send cover letter, resume and references to Jobsearch, 70 Kemble St., Lenox, MA 01240, or e-mail to jobsearch [at] shakespeare.org. Additional information can be found at www.shakespeare.org. Nathan Towne-Smith Production Manager Shakespeare & Company 70 Kemble St. Lenox, MA 01240 (413) 637-3169 (office) (413) 637-4274 (fax) production [at] shakespeare.org This e-mail message is intended for the use of the named recipient. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If the reader is not the intended recipient and has received this communication in error, please (1.) immediately REPLY to the sender, stating "This message was received in error," and (2.) delete all copies of this message and attachments. Thank you. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050311114924.024d5028 [at] postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:53:45 -0500 From: Ford H Sellers Subject: RE: LX board monitor compatibility Our sound guy got a couple of really cheap-o ones for his computerized set-up, and found that they made a bunch of RF noise. So much in fact that he doesn't use them. so if yer gonna set your Light Board and Sound Board up in the same area, Be Careful. ************************ Ford H Sellers Master Electrician Cornell University Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts 430 College Avenue Ithaca NY, 14850 (607) 254-2736 office (607) 254-2733 fax ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:01:56 -0500 From: "Josh Ratty" Subject: Re: Peeeeeeps Message-id: <008101c5265c$08cebb60$a900a8c0 [at] Rattys> References: ahh... The things i've done to "someone else's microwave"....... Josh Ratty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Farmer" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:53 PM Subject: Re: Peeeeeeps > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Stephen Litterst wrote: > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Pat Kight wrote: > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Stephen E. Rees wrote: > > > > Now I'll never get ready to go to USITT!. Waaay too much fun to be had > > > > this weekend. > > > > > > Take the Peeps with you! > > > > Any exhibitors on the list have room for a microwave in the booth? We > > could have jousting competitions on the show floor! > > There was a group of folks I knew who had picked up a beat up but > functional microwave oven. This was dubbed "Someone Else's Microwave" > and they did many things with it that you would only do with someone > else's microwave. After a while they learned to always bring a CO2 > fire extinguisher with it, as dry chemicals do bad things to hotel room > carpeting. > > --Dale > > ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: RE: 520i Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:06:19 -0600 Organization: Landru Design In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I wouldn't mind this being public - or being CCed in the discussion. C. Andrew Dunning Landru Design - Nashville, TN - cad [at] landrudesign.com www.landrudesign.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf=20 >Of jknipple >Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:08 AM >To: Stagecraft >Subject: 520i > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > >--------------------------------------------------- > >At the risk of starting another ETC vs Strand thread... > >Could someone who's switched from an ETC Expression to a 500=20 >series Strand board email me off list? We're thinking about=20 >switching to a 520i when the new building is completed, so I'm=20 >just looking for some thoughts/opinions, both positive and negative. > >TIA > >Jim > > >James Knipple >=A0 >Technical Director >REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage >Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College >- www.howardcc.edu/studentarts >jknipple [at] howardcc.edu >410-772-4451 > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4231D4A1.3050205 [at] bu.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:25:53 -0500 From: Nicholas Kuhl Subject: Re: Peeeeeps References: In-Reply-To: "Reminds me of the gradeschoolers with the purple, red or blue felt pen marks under his nose - from sniffing those fruit 'flavored' pens. (Do they still make those? Talk about yummy.) " they do indeed, and orange is the best :-) Nick Kuhl ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4231D8B2.8030106 [at] ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:43:14 -0800 From: "Bryan H. Ackler" Organization: Va. Tech - Vassar - USITT - NTHP Subject: Re: Costumers References: In-Reply-To: Stephanie Schoelzel asked me to post the following on the subject of Costumers. Can you post this response for me: Theatre organizations who pay below a reasonble living wage to hire a costumer/designer are not going to get a professional costumer/designer to work for them. They are going to get dillatants and want-to-bes who are enamoured by the idea of being a great "creative" person. The people they are hiring clearly know nothing about the business of being a working "designer". A real designer knows that you design to the production circumstances, that what is approriate to the director's desires and serves the actors takes presidence and that making theatre is supposed to be a joyful endeavor that is not served by arbitrary self importance. When you start offering a living wage you will get applications from professionals like me who have to make enough $ to pay for rent, food, a car and health insurance on a steady basis. We don't need exorbitant amounts of money, but the days are long gone by where room and board and $1000 at the end of the season will keep us alive. ___________________________________________________________ stephanie [at] URLy.com - Stephanie A. Schoelzel Web Architect/Project Manager/Production Designer/Webmaster USAA 829, IATSE 705, USITT, The Digirati Guild, Los Angeles SIGRAPH, HTML Writers Guild http://www.URLy.com/ http://www.access-presto.com http://www.stephstuff.com/ ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <03dc01c52664$89376060$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Listers Talents Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:02:47 -0800 > Come to sunny Oregon!! Mid-seventies for days! Hasn't rained in... what, > a year? (Seems like it, as I look out on a snowy mountain that looks as > nude as it does in July.) The trees are in bloom, the bugs and ants are > out, and the neighboring volcano does a show daily on the hour. > > -- Jon Ares I saw one of those joke-y lists recently: 'You know you're really an Oregonian if...' The one that struck me was, 'if you can point in the direction of two volcanoes, even if you can't see them.' I thought, 'that's funny, but, oh-my-gosh, it's true!' The other memorable one was, 'if you live equidistant from a winery, a microbrewery, and a volcano.' dt, (albany-corvallis) ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: PDA's Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:09:28 -0500 If you travel a lot, I recommend the Garmin iQue 3600 or the iQue M5 Pocket PC. Both have a built-in GPS system that works great. -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <6292FB1B-925B-11D9-9F46-000393BB489C [at] ucla.edu> From: Samuel Jones Subject: Re: 520i Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:28:37 -0800 I agree I missed the debate Jim Knipple mentions, and I would have been=20= very keen seeing it. Strand got the bid for our new facility, and I'm=20= moving from an Expression 3 to a 550i and 530i. I'll start the=20 discussion off. First, they are both good console systems. Why switch=20= from what you know? Have you been unhappy with the capabilities? When=20= forced to contemplate the switch, I took polls at to different LDIs. I=20= forget how many production electricians I talked to, but it was between=20= 10 and 15 who had actually run something on ETC and the Strand 500=20 boards. The Obsession was everyone's favorite console for conventional=20= fixtures and was everyone's worst nightmare when programming moving=20 lights. Everyone always wanted a Hog or GrandMA to program the moving=20= lights. I asked if they had to pick between the Obsession, Expression,=20= or Strand 500s, with Hogs and GrandMAs not an option, on a mixed show=20 of conventional and under 20 moving lights, what would they choose? It=20= came out about 65% for Strand and 35% ETC (always Expressions). What=20 would be most helpful, and what I can't remember is the why. Lighting=20= designer Stan Pressner has also worked with an electrician who had disk=20= full of macros that made working with moving lights on the Expression=20 fairly efficient, or at least that seemed to be his experience. I=20 think very few of the people have equivalent experience on both, which=20= was always admitted, and much of the problem was syntax glitches=20 bwtween systems. Couple of things, the Strand is (can be) a fully=20 tracking board. The Expression can track but unless you make=20 everything LTP (last takes precedence), which is not the default,=20 instead of HTP then it has been almost impossible for me to predict=20 track through results. Most people consider an Expression a=20 non-tracking board. If tracking is not a way you like to work, then=20 one of the attractions of the Strand 500s goes away. I haven't had any=20= training on the 550i yet, but I have spent about 5 hours at the factory=20= sitting down with the board and the manual. First, the Strand manual=20 sucks, even compared to other sucky console manuals. The online (on=20 the console) help is excellent and almost always available wherever you=20= are in an operation. Strand seems to think that the online help=20 mitigates the need for a good manual, but it doesn't. Apparently the=20 manual was PDF'd (verbing: gerund of the verb "to verb". I digress)=20 from the html pages of the online help; it didn't work out so well,=20 including a lot of missing pages. Again, Strand online console help=20 excellent, manual bad. I have found the moving light channel displays=20= easier to read and more convenient to manipulate on a Strand 550i than=20= my Expression. I think I like Expression syntax more, but that might=20 be because I'm use to it. I like the buttons on the 550. Ever since I=20= the 4 years I spent on a Prestige 2000 and a Scene Master 60 I have=20 tended to put quality of buttons and faders high on my list, the=20 Prestige and SM60 had crappy buttons and faders. I would love to hear=20= what others like about each console so I can look for those things. =20 What is driving your consideration of a new lighting console, more=20 channels, need tracking, increasing use of moving lights, would like=20 virtual visualization (Emphasis), what? Strand got our bid based on=20 the supplying of 600 plus dimmers both architectural and theatrical,=20 and the 550 was listed in the bid specs as acceptable. If you're just=20= looking at consoles, you might look at a GrandMA. I have heard a lot=20 of good things about this board especially in mixed environments=20 (wiggle/conventional). Lastly, any board that can read a LW patch file=20= or even a tab delimited (text) patch file should be purchased before=20 any others are considered. I hate being on the road and losing the=20 house ME for an hour to do the patch. Let's hear more from others. Sam Samuel L. Jones Theater Production Supervisor Dept. of World Arts and Cultures, UCLA sjones [at] arts.ucla.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D On Mar 11, 2005, at 9:06 AM, C. Andrew Dunning wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- > > I wouldn't mind this being public - or being CCed in the discussion. > > C. Andrew Dunning > Landru Design > - > Nashville, TN > - > cad [at] landrudesign.com > www.landrudesign.com > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf >> Of jknipple >> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:08 AM >> To: Stagecraft >> Subject: 520i >> >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> At the risk of starting another ETC vs Strand thread... >> >> Could someone who's switched from an ETC Expression to a 500 >> series Strand board email me off list? We're thinking about >> switching to a 520i when the new building is completed, so I'm >> just looking for some thoughts/opinions, both positive and negative. >> >> TIA >> >> Jim >> >> >> James Knipple >> =A0 >> Technical Director >> REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage >> Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College >> - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts >> jknipple [at] howardcc.edu >> 410-772-4451 >> >> > > > ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:33:03 GMT Subject: Re: Peeeeeeps Message-Id: <20050311.103323.11826.141858 [at] webmail17.lax.untd.com> Mmmm...As in taking the shielding off and placing it in right in front of a telco or TV dish on an office building roof, with a device created to power it on and off at random intervals? /s/ Richard ahh... The things i've done to "someone else's microwave"....... Josh Ratty ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: LX board monitor compatibility Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:40:27 -0500 > Our sound guy got a couple of really cheap-o ones for his computerized > set-up, and found that they made a bunch of RF noise. So much in fact > that he doesn't use them. so if yer gonna set your Light Board and > Sound Board up in the same area, Be Careful. Hey Ford. What post is this in relation to? I couldn't find an original post. The CD rom tray does work really well for a dowser. I had a slight delay on the open for some reason on the models I used. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050311184627.70628.qmail [at] web81702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:46:27 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Why carry equipment? Recently I have been asked the same question by several different people. Why do tours carry their own light and sound equipment? I have always said that it is for consistency. So that the tour always has the same equipment without worrying about what the venue has. Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my experience is from the venue side rather than the tour side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm missing when I answer this question. Mike H ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:50:14 -0500 Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Three venues that I worked for did not have enough of the instruments they were looking for. They also carried better instruments than I had in those particular venues. sjl > From: Michael Heinicke > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:46:27 -0800 (PST) > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Why carry equipment? > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Recently I have been asked the same question by > several different people. Why do tours carry their own > light and sound equipment? I have always said that it > is for consistency. So that the tour always has the > same equipment without worrying about what the venue > has. > Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my > experience is from the venue side rather than the tour > side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm > missing when I answer this question. > > Mike H > > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:04:35 -0700 The short answer is,, you know what you have got. Many times I have been on shows were the producer (in order to save some shipping costs) has used local staging from an unknown source. Big Mistake. Having a deck delayed because of whatever reason, increases costs exponentially. OT, pissed off client, you name it. I did a show a few years ago in Brasil, and I brought everything* from the States. I even air freighted Bash boxes of iron & sandbags. Just so we would have everything we needed. *Two things out of my control, the speaker cabinets, and the Uplink contractor, were obtained locally. One of the speaker's hanging hardware failed, (While being checked), and the satellite rig, which came out of a VW microbus, took 1 hour extra to get working. This cost someone about $3,000.00 per minute extra. Go with what you know... Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Mar 11, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Michael Heinicke wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Recently I have been asked the same question by > several different people. Why do tours carry their own > light and sound equipment? I have always said that it > is for consistency. So that the tour always has the > same equipment without worrying about what the venue > has. > Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my > experience is from the venue side rather than the tour > side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm > missing when I answer this question. > > Mike H ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:06:30 GMT Subject: Re: PDA's Message-Id: <20050311.110713.11826.142497 [at] webmail17.lax.untd.com> At less than $30 each, including software, a cradle for syncing to your desktop, and 'beaming' capacity built in, a Palm 111xe is a good deal if your PDA could be exposed to dropping or other rough treatment. /s/ Richard Can't speak for Palms, as I haver never used them. Nigel Worsley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:13:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 3/11/05 1:46 PM, Michael Heinicke at mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Recently I have been asked the same question by > several different people. Why do tours carry their own > light and sound equipment? I have always said that it > is for consistency. So that the tour always has the > same equipment without worrying about what the venue > has. > Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my > experience is from the venue side rather than the tour > side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm > missing when I answer this question. > > Mike H $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:19:28 -0500 Subject: Re: PDA's From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 3/11/05 2:06 PM, ladesigners [at] juno.com at ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > At less than $30 each, including software, a cradle for syncing to your > desktop, and 'beaming' capacity built in, a Palm 111xe is a good deal if your > PDA could be exposed to dropping or other rough treatment. > /s/ Richard > > > Can't speak for Palms, as I haver never used them. > Nigel Worsley > > My appt. book/phone book/to do list/ never loses data. It's paper. GPS? If I need to know to that detail where I am, I move. I figure someone else might have me in their sights also. Riding on the subway watching (surreptitiously) the person across the way furiously stab at his PDA. Then, after 2 minutes he cries out in anguish "No. It can't be. It's all gone. Sh*t, Sh*t, Sh*t." Never had to do that with my spiral bound notebook. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050311110715.057cb600 [at] localhost> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:16:59 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Stage Expo, Stagecraft stickers I just received 67 Stagecraft stickers for badges. I don't have the file to print any more, so...first come, first served. :) Booth 853. They won't be out, you'll have to ask for them. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: "Ronnie Thevenot" Subject: RE: PDA's Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:19:35 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c5266f$46893670$6401a8c0 [at] ronnie> In-Reply-To: I also have a Zire and enjoy it a lot. I am almost certain there are third-party programs to sync with Mac. IT is really nice have a camera = (even though it definatly has its flaws) on it because sometimes you need it = when you don't expect to. I use Bluetooth to sync to the PC and it is really nice not having to = mess with the cables. > I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data = assistant...=20 > what > do members of the list recommend. I would like to be able to link to = my > computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book. Do these=20 > things > have web access through cell phnes? I have a Pa1mOne Zire 72 and like it a lot. I don't have a cell phone, = but=20 the Zire can connect to the i-net (and mail, etc) via Bluetooth and a=20 Bluetooth phone. It comes with a lot of pre-configured connections for=20 various popular phones. Because I'm a masochist, I tried setting up my = Zire to surf the net via Bluetooth and my laptop... talk about extreme pain. = Too darn many variables - why did it work yesterday, and not today? Why = does it say my Zire is unavailable? But I have heard from others that = the=20 Bluetooth to the phone thing works like a charm. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org=20 ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Why carry equipment? Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:24:15 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C753 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > The short answer is,, you know what you have got. There's also something to be said for the consistency involved, especially lighting-wise. If you carry your own rig, you don't have to coninuously tweak cues (as much) for level because the venue doesn't have exactly what you spec and substituted, or uses a different set of lamps (HPL vs. HPL-X, for example), or whatever. =20 > the satellite rig, which came out of a VW microbus Was it, by any chance, a red VW microbus? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:44:12 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? Message-id: <4231F50C.81B35CCA [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Michael Heinicke wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > Recently I have been asked the same question by > several different people. Why do tours carry their own > light and sound equipment? > Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my > experience is from the venue side rather than the tour > side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm > missing when I answer this question. Not just consistency but speed. If you carry your own dimmers, multicable and lights then you have to patch and cue the show just once. If you're hanging and circuiting from scratch at every venue there will always be time taken to wring out the patch, find the wrong color in each system, etc. In my time on the road with a small ballet company it became apparent that we carried our own equipment to allow us to play *anywhere*. Small high school in the wilds of Virginia? Sure! We'll bring our own stuff! Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050311124250.016ed728 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:42:50 From: CB Subject: re: audience signage >Shown below are the individual signs we use, and we also have signs with >various combinations: > >Smoke and/or fog effects are used during this performance. ...and my all time favoriite, "This show contains nudity and gunfire". Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <043201c52674$155f5c00$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: audience signage Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:54:05 -0800 >>Shown below are the individual signs we use, and we also have signs with >>various combinations: > > ...and my all time favoriite, "This show contains nudity and gunfire". > Chris "Chris" Babbie Isn't that one shown after 6:00 PM on every American TV channel? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:00:51 -0500 From: "Josh Ratty" Subject: Re: Peeeeeeps Message-id: <018a01c52675$07ecdd80$a900a8c0 [at] Rattys> References: More like as when people say to me "you can't put metal in a microwave!" I reply, "Oh, but you can put anything that will fit in a microwave. In fact if you had a large microwwave you could put a smaller one inside of it." Did you know that a can of soda set on a table for 1/2 hour and one in a microwave for the same amount of time will do the exact same thing. NOTHING! A real let down no doubt. So then people ask "well how do you know the microwave was working." To which the accurate reply is "well i put a fork in and it got real hot right away so i'm sure it was working." Never understood why the would let college students have these things in their room for the whole year. See we didn't have a TV and if you think about it a microwave can be kinda like TV. It's got a screen and knobs and can be very entertaining. But I assure you this is but the tip of the iceberg. Josh "maybe sterile, maybe not" Ratty ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Peeeeeeps > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Mmmm...As in taking the shielding off and placing it in right in front of a telco or TV dish on an office building roof, with a device created to power it on and off at random intervals? > /s/ Richard > > > ahh... The things i've done to "someone else's microwave"....... > Josh Ratty > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:04:52 -0500 From: "Josh Ratty" Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? Message-id: <019201c52675$96bd88c0$a900a8c0 [at] Rattys> References: I know we have a number of custom gobos and templates in a few moving lights, and it seems to take a bit of time to switch them when an instrument goes down, I can't imagine having to do that every in and out. If you didn't have all your own gear I guess you'd have to count on the venue or rent it and there is certainly more available in some areas of the country than others, so you could easily be up the creek if you're doing a show in the middle of no-where. Josh Ratty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Heinicke" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: Why carry equipment? > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Recently I have been asked the same question by > several different people. Why do tours carry their own > light and sound equipment? I have always said that it > is for consistency. So that the tour always has the > same equipment without worrying about what the venue > has. > Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my > experience is from the venue side rather than the tour > side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm > missing when I answer this question. > > Mike H ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20050311151022.027ef550 [at] pop.lightlink.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:14:02 -0500 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? In-Reply-To: How many venues can you name that have one Cadac J-type, let alone a J-type with a wing. And frames of line arrays? Not likely, nor the necessary power amps if the speakers are not self-powered. Or something like XTA's or a Soundweb? I could go one, but you want a system that you know in sound, and you want to be able to set it up quickly. That happens when the shop has prebuilt racks with mult connectors, etc. From the sound point of view, it just makes sense. Not many venues are going to have all the things a show, especially a big show, needs. -- JLB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:27:18 -0500 Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh From: Greg Williams In-Reply-To: Message-Id: On Friday, March 11, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Merel Ray-Pfeifer wrote: > At the local Target there is a whole section in the Easter asle of > Peep-mania. I especially liked the Peep hats. Yes, it was a peep big > enough to wear. > Er... Merel... maybe big enough for _you_ to wear, and perhaps Dr. D? -=Greg Williams=- Support the Long Reach Long Riders & Broadway Cares www.sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR ------------------------------ Message-ID: <423204F7.FBC71814 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:52:07 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? References: Michael Heinicke wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Recently I have been asked the same question by > several different people. Why do tours carry their own > light and sound equipment? I have always said that it > is for consistency. So that the tour always has the > same equipment without worrying about what the venue > has. > Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my > experience is from the venue side rather than the tour > side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm > missing when I answer this question. > > Mike H Speed of setup, known quantities when troubleshooting a problem, you know that it was working at the last site, you already have in your spares box the right bulbs, fuses, etc. Disadvantages are: truck breaks down or driver gets lost. ( This is, inevitably, the truck that has the rigging gear or the deck in multitruck shows. ) Paying all the tickets. --Dale ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: RE: PDA's Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:54:47 -0500 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <001001c52674$2e9e3830$a19afea9 [at] AndyLeviss> In-reply-to: Bill Sapsis wrote: > Riding on the subway watching (surreptitiously) the person > across the way > furiously stab at his PDA. Then, after 2 minutes he cries > out in anguish > "No. It can't be. It's all gone. Sh*t, Sh*t, Sh*t." > > Never had to do that with my spiral bound notebook. Well, that's that guy's own fault for not properly backing up. If my Palm (Tungsten T2, for those curious) gets stolen, I can rapidly reload my up-to-date as of that morning backup back onto it from my computer. If I'm travelling, it's just as easy--if I should for some reason lose all the data due to a hard reset, I can very easily restore it from the automated backup that gets saved to my SD card every night while I sleep. What happens when somebody steals/you lose your notebook? I'm guessing you don't have two separate up-to-date/nearly so complete backups of it readily at hand? Not to mention all the non-planner functions it serves, from giving me newspapers and magazines to read via Avant Go to eBooks to a calculator to a rigging calculator to giving me games to play when I'm bored to...well, you get the idea. I tried keeping a paper planner, but the thing was so big and bulky that I never wanted to carry it. Now I've got one barely larger than a pack of cards that does oh so much more. I'm certainly not going back! FWIW, Andy Grand Poobah, http://OneFromTheRoad.com Tools, Toys, and Tales for the Theatrical Technician -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005 ------------------------------ Subject: Need info on doing Peter Pan Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:58:05 -0700 Message-ID: <53210209D26CD743BA3DC2A18096732E018BBE [at] STAFFMAIL.cwc.edu> From: "Gray Chontelle" Hi! I am a first time poster, but I've been reading posts for a few months now. =20 I am hoping I can benefit from your expertise - I am the tech half of a two person theatre department at a community college in Wyoming. My director wants us to do Peter Pan in the fall. We have a fly system but no grid or loft - we only have about 38 feet from floor to the I-beams supporting our fly system. I would need to rent the system and pay for it to be rigged. So question number one is about how much would that cost? (ballpark)Then, I know there is a "learning curve period" wherein the actors and fly operators have to work out how the flying will be done (my director has to understand that he will lose some actor rehearsal time for this). In your experience, how much time should we allow for this learning curve? Also, is there anything else you can think of that I should be alerted to in doing this production? He is still getting the script (he also wants to do the play version as opposed to the musical version) so although I haven't read it yet, I am familiar with the musical version and know the scenery is going to be demanding and that flying adds a new set of complications. I want to be sure that if I agree to this show (after reading it), that I am doing it with my eyes open. For those of you who have done this show - is there something that you wish you could have known before doing this production?=20 Thanks for your help! =20 Chontelle Gray=20 Technical Director, Central Wyoming College ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" Subject: RE: Need info on doing Peter Pan Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:03:17 -0500 Delbert Hall!!! Paging Delbert Hall!!! Has anyone seen Delbert Hall? Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati -----Original Message----- From: Gray Chontelle [mailto:cgray [at] cwc.edu] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 3:58 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Need info on doing Peter Pan For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hi! I am a first time poster, but I've been reading posts for a few months now. I am hoping I can benefit from your expertise - I am the tech half of a two person theatre department at a community college in Wyoming. My director wants us to do Peter Pan in the fall. We have a fly system but no grid or loft - we only have about 38 feet from floor to the I-beams supporting our fly system. I would need to rent the system and pay for it to be rigged. So question number one is about how much would that cost? (ballpark)Then, I know there is a "learning curve period" wherein the actors and fly operators have to work out how the flying will be done (my director has to understand that he will lose some actor rehearsal time for this). In your experience, how much time should we allow for this learning curve? Also, is there anything else you can think of that I should be alerted to in doing this production? He is still getting the script (he also wants to do the play version as opposed to the musical version) so although I haven't read it yet, I am familiar with the musical version and know the scenery is going to be demanding and that flying adds a new set of complications. I want to be sure that if I agree to this show (after reading it), that I am doing it with my eyes open. For those of you who have done this show - is there something that you wish you could have known before doing this production? Thanks for your help! Chontelle Gray Technical Director, Central Wyoming College ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:05:48 -0600 From: "Merel Ray-Pfeifer" Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh HATS You know on your head. Head size and height are not the same. Merel >>> gwilliams [at] appstate.edu 3/11/2005 2:27:18 PM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- On Friday, March 11, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Merel Ray-Pfeifer wrote: > At the local Target there is a whole section in the Easter asle of > Peep-mania. I especially liked the Peep hats. Yes, it was a peep big > enough to wear. > Er... Merel... maybe big enough for _you_ to wear, and perhaps Dr. D? -=Greg Williams=- Support the Long Reach Long Riders & Broadway Cares www.sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:09:17 -0700 On Mar 11, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Paul Schreiner wrote: >> the satellite rig, which came out of a VW microbus > > Was it, by any chance, a red VW microbus? The downlink guy pulled up in a nice van, towing a satellite dish, and after we ran his power, he was up in about 15 minutes. The uplink guy pulled up in a chartreuse microbus (just kidding about the color) and started pulling parts out to set up the dish. It took about two hours, as it looked like he was assembling a barbecue grill. I wish I had taken pictures. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:17:50 -0500 > Delbert Hall!!! Paging Delbert Hall!!! Has anyone seen Delbert Hall? > > Steve Waxler > Technical Director Isn't Tracy Nunally who they should be looking for as per Delbert's prior post about selling out... I mean selling the business. :-) Seriously check out flyingfx.com and contact them for all your answers. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:22:00 EST Subject: Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan In a message dated 3/11/05 4:19:28 PM, gbierly [at] dejazzd.com writes: << Isn't Tracy Nunally who they should be looking for as per Delbert's prior post about selling out... I mean selling the business. :-) Seriously check out flyingfx.com and contact them for all your answers. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS >> actually it seems Delbert is still in the biz, , as he just completed a Peter Pan ( ballet version ) in Atlanta, , very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" Subject: RE: Need info on doing Peter Pan Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:24:30 -0500 What can I say, Alzheimer's I forgot. Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati -----Original Message----- From: Greg Bierly [mailto:gbierly [at] dejazzd.com] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:18 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > Delbert Hall!!! Paging Delbert Hall!!! Has anyone seen Delbert Hall? > > Steve Waxler > Technical Director Isn't Tracy Nunally who they should be looking for as per Delbert's prior post about selling out... I mean selling the business. :-) Seriously check out flyingfx.com and contact them for all your answers. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <40cc7ee6daeaf51c173f58f88f2d1a92 [at] andrewvance.com> From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:49:29 -0600 Nothing to do with the flying aspect of it, but make sure your audience knows that its not the musical version. My current employer did the non-musical version before I arrived here, and I heard many audience members were shocked to learn there wouldn't be any singing and it wasn't the "Peter Pan" they were expecting. Don't know if it hurt ticket sales or not, but there's still murmurs about why we choose that production instead of the "real" one. Of course, the rights for the musical version are tied up with the Cathy Rigby tour, so that's a moot point. I did "Peter Pan" long, long time ago in my college summerstock days and having seen pictures of the scenery from my theatre's production a few years ago, I can tell you there's no real difference between the size/scale from musical to non. Its the same story, just no one breaks into song randomly. Foy came in and did the flying for us, though I can't tell you what they required or how long their flight choreographer worked with the actors. I think it was three or four days start to finish [rigging installation to final rehearsal with the Foy guy], but don't quote me. -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer www.andrewvance.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: RE: Need info on doing Peter Pan Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:27:47 -0500 Boy .... log off for a couple of hours and everyone starts talking about you. While I sold the Hall Associates, I still am very much involved in flying and can answer most of Chontelle's questions. First, 38' feet of height will certanly work for PETER PAN. Generally speaking, PETER PAN uses one track system and three pendulum systems. The PETER PAN ballet that I just finished used two tracks, but John and Michael did not fly (Peter, Wendy, and Tinkerbell did, not never more than two of them at one time). The price will depend on the company that you hire and the length of time the equipment is needed. The three companies in the US that can do this for you are Flying by Foy (www.flybyfoy.com), Hall Associates Flying Effects (www.flyingfx.com), and ZFX Flying Illusions (www.zfxflying.com). A "ballpark price" would probably be in the $4.5 - $5.5K range. The company usually sends someone in for three days. During this time they install the equipment (about 4-5 hours) and train your cast and crew how to fly. You will need at least five good strong operators. Typically, I like three rehearsals with the cast and crew (each rehearsal lasting about 2 - 2.5 hours) for the musical. The straight play generally takes less time. Hall and ZFX can do technical workshop of the mechanics of flying performers for your students. If that interests you, ask about it. The additional cost is pretty low. If you or the director has some specific desires for the flying, tell the flying effects company early so that they can spec the right equipment. Flying affects the scenery, lights, and costumes. All the companies should send you information to make this easier. The biggest problem is often with designers not providing enough room between the track system and other hanging scenery and light. Be very aware of this. The more you tell the flying effects company what your plans are, the more they will guide you. Trust me here, it is a lot easier to solve these problems a month before the show opens than to deal with them when someone arrives to install the equipment. If you have any additional questions, just email me and I will answer them. -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Need info on doing Peter Pan Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:04:05 -0800 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And as I recall Foy Inventerprises still does Peter Pan, do they not? doom -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Greg Bierly Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:18 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > Delbert Hall!!! Paging Delbert Hall!!! Has anyone seen Delbert Hall? > > Steve Waxler > Technical Director Isn't Tracy Nunally who they should be looking for as per Delbert's prior post about selling out... I mean selling the business. :-) Seriously check out flyingfx.com and contact them for all your answers. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <194.3a77fefa.2f637ecc [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:07:56 EST Subject: Re: DMX Channels In a message dated 11/03/05 13:26:36 GMT Standard Time, thad [at] nls.net writes: > I've got a touring rig for AIDA (which is currently on break until > April) that has 13 Revolutions, 60 Apollo SmartColor Scrollers, 2 > Hazers, and 6 Cyberlight CX units. That eats up pretty much an entire > universe in itself, and then I have a second universe controlling my 144 > dimmers plus about 15 or so house dimmers we end up using for our FOH > positions. That translates into using about 8 outputs on two separate > rack mounted Optos and a whole lot of DMX cable. > > Oh, and incase you're curious, I use an Expression 3 linked via MIDI > Show Control to a laptop running HOG PC to control my movers. It seems to me that you are putting more effort into controlling all the moving lights, and so on, than you are into the real show lights. The ones which allow the audience to see what's going on on the stage, and presenting them with good pictures. If that's what you and your director want, fair enough. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:15:59 -0500 Subject: Re: DMX Channels From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: OH FRANK SHUT THE HELL UP!!! Your opinions just show your complete ignorance of the tools at your disposal. Stick to a screw driver the rest of us will use screw guns. (and have screw drivers for when we need/want them) Sorry for the shouting folks it's my yearly Rant at Frank. -H On 3/11/05 6:07 PM, "FrankWood95 [at] aol.com" wrote: > It seems to me that you are putting more effort into controlling all the > moving lights, and so on, than you are into the real show lights. The ones > which > allow the audience to see what's going on on the stage, and presenting them > with good pictures. > > If that's what you and your director want, fair enough. > > Frank Wood > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <19c.2ef09309.2f638107 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:17:27 EST Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU In a message dated 11/03/05 15:16:11 GMT Standard Time, pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu writes: > > Ouch! What do they do with them all? Brightness, coarse and > > fine pan, tilt, > > zoom, and focus. Colour change makes one more. After that, I > > suppose you're > > into gobo selectors and rotators. But I still can't count twenty. > > Pan (coarse and fine, 2 channels) > Tilt (coarse and fine, 2 channels) > Color wheel > C/M/Y mix (3 channels, one for each) > Static litho selection > Rotating litho selection > Rotation speed/direction > Zoom > Focus > Iris > Effects wheel > Frost > Shutter > Intensity > Motor speed > Special control (home/shutdown) It adds up, but the tech must be a nightmare. So many variables. I'm old fashioned. All I have to decide on is where it's pointing, and how bright it is. Primitive, yes, But I think you get better lighting. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1de.36f402da.2f638375 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:27:49 EST Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? In a message dated 11/03/05 18:47:31 GMT Standard Time, mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net writes: > Recently I have been asked the same question by > several different people. Why do tours carry their own > light and sound equipment? I have always said that it > is for consistency. So that the tour always has the > same equipment without worrying about what the venue > has. > Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my > experience is from the venue side rather than the tour > side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm > missing when I answer this question. I think not. Tours are always working against time. They need to know what they will meet, at their get-in. Having to work out how best to use the house rig to achieve your design is something of a pain. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:32:15 EST Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? In a message dated 11/03/05 19:45:10 GMT Standard Time, slitterst [at] ithaca.edu writes: > In my time on the road with a small ballet company it became apparent > that we carried our own equipment to allow us to play *anywhere*. > Small high school in the wilds of Virginia? Sure! We'll bring our > own stuff! If, of course, there is an adequate power supply. This is not always true. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:30:25 -0600 Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Steve Litterst wrote: > In my time on the road with a small ballet company it became apparent > that we carried our own equipment to allow us to play *anywhere*. > Small high school in the wilds of Virginia? Sure! We'll bring our > own stuff! Frank Wood responded: >If, of course, there is an adequate power supply. This is not always true. Frank, I have played in the middle of nowhere where they didn't have power. That's right, no power! A field with a stage. We had this company called GE Energy rentals bring in this really cool thing called a generator. It made electricity for us on the spot. With enough planning, and sometimes with none, GE, Agrekko, Kohler, Bebe, or any number of local generator companies can get you up and running. Yes you are correct you have to know if the power will or won't be adequate, but there have been several times when we have gotten to the venue and found out the day of show the power wasn't adequate (usually because of misinformation from the venue) and made the show happen with a generator. Greg Persinger Vivid Illumination Greg [at] Vividillumination.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:39:52 -0500 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU In-Reply-To: References: On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:17:27 EST, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > > It adds up, but the tech must be a nightmare. So many variables. I'm old > fashioned. All I have to decide on is where it's pointing, and how bright it is. > > Primitive, yes, But I think you get better lighting. > > Frank Wood > Don't you also need to figure out how far into the salt water to put the electrodes? Brian Munroe brian [at] themunroes.com ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: RE: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:27:24 -0500 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <000201c526ab$078113d0$a19afea9 [at] AndyLeviss> In-Reply-To: Frank (who else) wrote, regarding discussion of the ETC Revolution: > It adds up, but the tech must be a nightmare. So many > variables. I'm old > fashioned. All I have to decide on is where it's pointing, > and how bright it is. > > Primitive, yes, But I think you get better lighting. Do you even have the slightest clue what you're talking about? We happen to be discussing the ETC Revolution, which is ETC's new intelligent Source Four. It uses the same basic optics, the same lamp, the same everything as the standard Source Four, just automates everything. It's the SAME EXACT FRICKIN' LIGHTING, just with more flexibility. Go back under your bridge, Frank. --A -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. 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