Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/ClamAV http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 22142990; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:02:12 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #384 Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 03:01:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #384 1. Re: More fun with guns by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 2. This month in designer history by "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" 3. Re: CD-80 flickering problem - continuing saga by Stuart Wheaton 4. Re: Copper tubing by "Paul Guncheon" 5. Eartec TD 900 pro wireless comm system? by "Jon Ares" 6. Re: Bubble Machine Lifts, The Reality by "Paul Guncheon" 7. Theatre Sound List by CB 8. Re: Personal Ad: MWM Seeking Companionship by Loren Schreiber 9. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by "Paul Schreiner" 10. Re: Copper tubing by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 11. Lighting for architecture by "Michael Finney" 12. Re: Lighting for architecture by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 13. Aluminum Loads and Deflections by "Weston Wilkerson" 14. Bill's tale of woe (dimmers) by "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" 15. Hanging a bubble machine by Brendan Quigley 16. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by Reid G Johnson 17. Re: 3-Phase-Single Phase by Mitch Hefter 18. Re: Aluminum Loads and Deflections by Bill Sapsis 19. Re: Aluminum Loads and Deflections by "Weston Wilkerson" 20. Re: 3-Phase-Single Phase by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 21. Need Source For Bosum's Whistle by "Steven J. Backus" 22. Re: Need Source For Bosum's Whistle by "Don Taco" 23. Re: Suggestions for Rome? by Kevin Lee Allen 24. Re: jefferson/adams by john penisten 25. Re: This month in designer history by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 26. Re: This month in designer history by Mike Brubaker 27. Custom Power Cable by Mike Benonis 28. Re: Light lab activities? by CB 29. Re: New Theater Space by CB 30. Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre by CB 31. Re: Copper Tubing by CB 32. Re: New Theater Space by "Occy" 33. Radiant Floor Heating by "Kurt Pragman" 34. Re: Phasing for Frank was RE: CD-80 flickering problem by "Occy" 35. Re: Bill's tale of woe (dimmers) by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: More fun with guns Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 05:57:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Does that mean my move this month to Littleton one block from Columbine may be in jeopardy .... Doom -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Randy Whitcomb Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:56 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: More fun with guns For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Guys like this are the reason TPTB are so risk adverse. In the TV story yesterday he said they had used pellet guns (airsoft type) before with permission, but it turns out the Archdiocese of Denver has a strict no guns policy even for toy guns. http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2844070,00.html# Randy Whitcomb, TD Price Civic Aud. Loveland, CO. ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" Subject: This month in designer history Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 10:28:56 -0400 Greetings list folk. Here are the designer related anniversaries for May that I have extrapolated from the newly posted May edition of This Month in Theatre History. Enjoy your heritage! Richard Finkelstein http://www.artslynx.org/theatre/ ============================ May 1 36th Anniversary of the death of lighting designer, Jean Rosenthal May 1 130th anniversary of the birth of Russian set and costume designer, Nikolay Ul'yanov May 2 486th Anniversary of the death of of Leonardo da Vinci May 3 93rd Anniversary of the birth of designer, Howard Bay May 3 56th Anniversary of the death of Mario Fortuny Y De Madrazo May 5 56th anniversary of the death of Russian set and costume designer, Nikolay Ul'yanov May 6 21st Anniversary of the death of designer, William Ritman May 7 103rd Anniversary of the birth of designer, Donald Oenslager May 9 108th Anniversary of the birth of lighting visionary, Stanley McCandless May 10 85th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Josef Svoboda May 10 139th Anniversary of the birth of Leon Bakst May 10 4th Anniversary of the death of stage lighting pioneer, Fred Bentham May 10 15th Anniversary of the death of designer, William Pitkin May 10 217th Anniversary of the birth of Augustin-Jean Fresnel who did NOT design the "Fresnel" lens! May 11 101st Anniversary of the birth of Salvador Dali May 11 134th Anniversary of the birth of Mario Fortuny Y De Madrazo May 12 73rd Anniversary of the birth of designer, David Mitchell May 16 15th Anniversary of the death of Jim Henson May 20 114th Anniversary of Edison's demonstration of the Kinetoscope May 22 55th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Paul de Pass May 23 123rd Anniversary of the birth of Russian Director,Designer, Theodore Komisarjevsky May 25 81st Anniversary of the death of Russian designer, Lyubov Popova May 26 133rd Anniversary of the birth of designer, Joseph Urban May 28 76th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Richard Hay May 28 63rd Anniversary of the death of stage photographer, George W. Lucas ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4274F8C7.3050905 [at] fuse.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 11:41:59 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: CD-80 flickering problem - continuing saga References: In-Reply-To: Bill Nelson wrote: > Does anyone happen to know the pinouts for converting from the TA4 to 4 > pin XLR at the board input? > > Bill The TA4M, known as the "mini-stupid plug" at a previous employer.... pin 1 Clock- pin 2 Common pin 3 Clock+ pin 4 Analog AMX The XLR4 is ... pin 1 Common pin 2 Clock+ pin 3 Analog AMX pin 4 Clock- Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 06:49:37 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Copper tubing Message-id: <001301c54e6d$c3b22140$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: <> I would think so... It's also a way bad method. Emery paper is generally for smoothing or roughing, not for polishing. It'll scratch the bejesus out of the copper and you'll spend a very long time getting rid of those scratches. One might do that for stage work but this project will be viewed very closely. <> A polishing wheel works great, but I have 150 + fittings so I was hoping for a chemical process with which someone has had success. Laters, Paul "I never play any music by Hungarian composers," said Tom listlessly. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000301c54e6e$2cea9f70$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" Subject: Eartec TD 900 pro wireless comm system? Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 09:52:35 -0700 Anyone using Eartec's TD 900 series of wireless comm systems? I've been to their website, and there's no technical info, like: what frequency/method is the Tx and Rx? What's the range? Batteries? Durability/reliability? Anyone using these patched into their hardwired system? TIA... -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 06:54:16 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Bubble Machine Lifts, The Reality Message-id: <001701c54e6e$69bdc260$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: <> And rich beyond my wildest dreams. How rich you ask? Well... let's just say that I made enough money to rent anything I wanted. Laters, Paul "That musical really cheered me up" said Tom less miserably. (I wrote that one and I'mdamn proud of it, too.) ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050501095459.00b2fb98 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 09:54:59 From: CB Subject: Theatre Sound List Hey, Charlie (or anyone else on the TSL), could you let Donna Miller know that I am in Kansas City, and that she is probably working the out for the show on Monday, and that when she worked the in she should have said 'hey'? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050501095754.03e95870 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 10:06:05 -0700 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: Personal Ad: MWM Seeking Companionship In-Reply-To: References: MWM, 53, seeks companion of either (and/or/all) genders for fantastic adventure on behalf of Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS. Currently single (i. e., the only) Long Reach Long Rider coming from the west. Serious replies only. Must have own motorcycle. Must raise $1000 (by whatever means) for BC/EFA. Best scenery on Earth--includes Zion, Cedar Breaks, Rocky Mountains, etc. Contact Loren Schreiber or any of the Long Reach Long Riders at, http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html Loren "Grits" Schreiber, Technical Director and Long Reach Long Rider School of Theatre, Television and Film San Diego State University http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 13:33:47 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C7F6 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > the Maryinsky Theatre...and the Peter and=20 > Paul Fortress come to mind. "I'm lea-vin' on a jet plane..." Sorry. Couldn't help myself today. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <97.5ea6270c.2fa678b2 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 14:23:46 EDT Subject: Re: Copper tubing In a message dated 01/05/05 17:50:08 GMT Daylight Time, paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net writes: > I would think so... It's also a way bad method. Emery paper is generally > for smoothing or roughing, not for polishing. It'll scratch the bejesus out > of the copper and you'll spend a very long time getting rid of those > scratches. One might do that for stage work but this project will be viewed > very closely. > > <> > > A polishing wheel works great, but I have 150 + fittings so I was hoping for > a chemical process with which someone has had success. Sorry. There is no substitute for removing all the surface imperfections. It depends on the degree of polish you want. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Subject: Lighting for architecture Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:28:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Michael Finney" In response to: <> Bill Nelson wrote: <> Actually this architect is a client, so I try to be nice and polite! = Besides, he's very talented, a heck of a nice guy, and I really enjoy = working with him. And besides all of that, in this case he had a = perfectly valid concern. His big concern about the nightlighting of the = project was achieving a specific balance between this building (which is = new) and a hotel tower in the background (existing, and unlikely to = change)...and the key to making that match was going to be balancing the = color of the different stonework under lights. (The stone for the new = building is coming from a different source than the older building - = same quarry, but taken from a different area (15 years later) - it's = *amazing* how much of a difference that makes!) Getting a good wash on = the new building and picking out the appropriate details was pretty much = just a matter of mechanics - the real challenge was getting the stone to = look right (I'm leaning towards using a light source with a lower CRI = than I usually like in order to get the slight shift to blue that I need = - if I do this right, I won't need to put a tinted lens on the = fixture).. Architects are interesting people to work with, and lighting for = architecture can be very challenging, satisfying, and (with the right = job!) it can support an awful lot of theatre/dance projects that don't = really pay the bills. It's kind of interesting - but a number of architects I've dealt with = haven't been anywhere near as concerned about how their work will look = under artificial light as they are about how it will look as the sun = moves across it during the day. I actually had one very successful = architect tell me that he never looked at his buildings at night = (yikes!). It was a real adjustment when I first started working on = architectural projects to realize that the architect was rendering the = project with almost no sense of light on it. Coming from the = entertainment industry, I was used to scenic designers (and art = directors) rendering their sets (in most instances) with a strong sense = of light (direction, color, intensity, etc.). Big adjustment - but it = was wonderfully exciting to be able to have that kind of control of the = look of the project (when it wasn't absolutely terrifying to realize = that my decisions might stand for a long, long time!). Of course, my = favourite architects think about how their work will look day or = night...and the really cool ones make the building change dramatically = between the two conditions (look at any of Santiago Calatrava's work for = instance - a lot of it doesn't really reveal the details of its = structure until it's lit at night). But that's just my opinion! PS - Frank and I took the discussion of colour off-list (aren't we well = behaved?) - it's never a bad thing to discuss (and disagree about) = differing approaches to design. Michael Finney Thinkwell Design & Production mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com www.thinkwelldesign.com =A0 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 14:41:59 EDT Subject: Re: Lighting for architecture In a message dated 01/05/05 19:30:06 GMT Daylight Time, mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com writes: > < meeting where an architect said to me (in regards to lighting a building > exterior): "the first thing we have to do is pick the right color to wash > this stone">> It's a question which needs to be asked. Architects and lighting designers come at it from different points of view. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Weston Wilkerson" Subject: Aluminum Loads and Deflections Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 15:17:53 -0400 To the list... I am trying to find a table of Loads and Deflections vs. various spans for 6061 Aluminum Square Tubing. I have founds volumes of this type of material for various steel alloys and aluminum grating, but none for aluminum tubing. Either books or internet sites are welcome. Thanks, weston <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Weston Wilkerson University of Tennessee Theater Lighting Design e: Weston_Wilkerson [at] hotmail.com <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Message-ID: <297C9E3B63B2D3119C8100508B5ED28F160200C0 [at] exchange2.ubc.ca> From: "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" Cc: billn [at] peak.org ('billn [at] peak.org') Subject: Bill's tale of woe (dimmers) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 13:10:42 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] > Sent: May 1, 2005 3:01 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Stagecraft Digest #383 > > > Meanwhile, there is a show that is just under two weeks from opening > night. If it is going to fail, I hope it does so quickly - so we can call > in a factory trained technician to look at it. > > Bill Bill: why would you not call in the factory trained tech NOW???? Something is identifiably broken, you've chased down pretty much every option, and are getting into some really deep levels of trying to source the problem. Call the tech now, cause it will a few days before they get in, get the part, remember the soldering pencil . . . . . . . (see Chris, skwints can edit!)! Andrew M. Riter Head Lighting Technician Chan Centre ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:00:52 -0500 From: Brendan Quigley Subject: Hanging a bubble machine In-reply-to: Message-id: <8a9be679207ea8062ddc250abdd5de3e [at] earthlink.net> References: Paul Guncheon tapped: > I have a fun question for the masses. I have a customer that wants to > hang his bubble macines on his grid in his childrens room. > > Hmmm, wretched excess or necessity spawning invention? > > Some thoughts: > > Hang them from cables or ropes on pulleys. Untie them and lower them. > Make a pole that will hook onto the machine and lift it off the grid. > Attach them to small electric winches. > Run them til the tanks dry, find out what a mess they make, it may not > be a > problem. My pricey suggestion would be a pantograph, used in television studios all the time. Quite probably expensive, hard to find, and ancient, but with the proper balance found, they ought to work just fine. Though stirrup hangers might be an option, you'd still have to get a ladder to get to them. My most realistic solution, however, would be pulleys and some line, with a cleat somewhere out of the way. Personally, I'd vote for "wretched excess" ... and just what kind of "grid" is in a kid's room? Kind Regards, Brendan C. Quigley Head Electrician / Vari*Lite Technician WICKED - A New Broadway Musical ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 17:32:54 -0400 From: Reid G Johnson Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? And of course there is a Hell in the great state of Michigan, USA. Just came through there today. The Mayor is a friend. http://hell2u.com >Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? > >In a message dated 30/04/05 18:45:29 GMT Daylight Time, >stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com writes: > > > I'll remember that the next time someone tells me to go to hell. >Then Frank wrote: >There is such a town in Norway. > >Frank Wood -- ------------------------------------------- Reid G Johnson Utica, MI Team Pterodactyl Logistics and Stats '93 BMW K1100GS .....o~'o ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050501162609.030fa818 [at] mail.DesignRelief.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 16:42:33 -0500 From: Mitch Hefter Subject: Re: 3-Phase-Single Phase In-Reply-To: References: Frank Wood wrote: >I have always thought that US electrical instllations, were insanitary.Now, I >know it. With us, for single-phase. the refernce point tis the neutral. The >centre-point of a star. Each corner is 230V away, and the corner-to-corner >numbers are 380V. Single-phase is always corner-to-neutral. > >billn [at] peak.org writes: > > > Thanks for clarifying the matter. But I doubt if Frank will ever accept > > the feed as single phase, regardless of the facts. > >Not as I understand the term. With our UK numbers, single phase is 230V RMS, >between live and neutral. Nothing else. What we would call single-phase, 2-wire. Yes, the neutral is the reference. Never said it wasn't. Did you look at the links? Well illustrated examples. Note - I used corner to describe the corner of the delta secondary. In a wye- (star) configuration, I wouldn't normally use the term corner. I believe it is safe to say that the majority of power for lighting systems used by this list is 3-phase, 4-wire, in a delta-wye configuration. 120v phase to neutral, 208v (square root of 3 x the phase-neutral voltage). This is followed by the single-phase, 3-wire off of a delta-delta configuration. 120v phase to neutral, 240v phase-phase. For motors, you will find 3-phase, 3-wire delta or wye. As I wrote, the the multiple ways "single-phase" is used is unfortunate as it can be confusing if not fully described, but it is accurate. This is reality - it's not perfect. . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mitch Hefter heftermk [at] DesignRelief.com Office: Entertainment Technology / a Division of the Genlyte Group mhefter [at] genlyte.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:51:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Aluminum Loads and Deflections From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 5/1/05 3:17 PM, Weston Wilkerson at weston_wilkerson [at] hotmail.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > To the list... > I am trying to find a table of Loads and Deflections vs. various spans for > 6061 Aluminum Square > Tubing. I have founds volumes of this type of material for various steel > alloys and aluminum grating, > but none for aluminum tubing. > Either books or internet sites are welcome. > > Thanks, weston > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Weston Wilkerson > University of Tennessee Theater Lighting Design > e: Weston_Wilkerson [at] hotmail.com > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > I suspect you might have a hard time finding that. It's an oddball way of dealing with aluminum tube, at least out there in the real world. Have you spoken with any of the truss manufacturers yet? Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Weston Wilkerson" Subject: Re: Aluminum Loads and Deflections Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 18:00:21 -0400 I contacted Thomas since they are here in town, but both of the people I know are out of town until Tuesday. I have a structural design book from the library that I think will provide the path to derive the information I need, but there is a sizeable learning curve that I was hoping to circumvent. weston >I suspect you might have a hard time finding that. It's an oddball way of >dealing with aluminum tube, at least out there in the real world. Have you >spoken with any of the truss manufacturers yet? > >Bill S. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Weston Wilkerson University of Tennessee Theater Lighting Design e: Weston_Wilkerson [at] hotmail.com <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1dc.3be3d975.2fa6b2b1 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:31:13 EDT Subject: Re: 3-Phase-Single Phase In a message dated 01/05/05 22:43:16 GMT Daylight Time, stagecraft [at] DesignRelief.com writes: > What we would call single-phase, 2-wire. Yes, the neutral is the > reference. Never said it wasn't. > > Note - I used corner to describe the corner of the delta secondary. In a > wye- (star) configuration, I wouldn't normally use the term corner. I think that we are into anglo-american terminology again, and usages. Three-phase delta power is never available, over here. It never gets past the sub-station. Perhaps it can be met in some industrial installations. This implies three feeds, 120 degrees out of phase, and a neutral. Single-phase is supplied from one of the phase wires, and the neutral. The system is designed so as to achieve a reasonable degree of phase balance, reducing the neutral current. > > I believe it is safe to say that the majority of power for lighting systems > used by this list is 3-phase, 4-wire, in a delta-wye configuration. 120v > phase to neutral, 208v (square root of 3 x the phase-neutral > voltage) I think your nunbers are right. . This is followed by the single-phase, 3-wire off of a > delta-delta configuration. 120v phase to neutral, 240v phase-phase. For > motors, you will find 3-phase, 3-wire delta or wye. Now, this has me beat. Single-phase, by me, is wired between line and neutral. Period. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 17:25:04 -0600 (MDT) From: "Steven J. Backus" Subject: Need Source For Bosum's Whistle Message-ID: A friend is doing a production and needs one. They look kind of pricey on the web. Any ideas where to borrow one for a short duration and perhaps program credit? Thanks, Steve ------------------------------ Message-ID: <02ca01c54ea6$9a700f20$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Need Source For Bosum's Whistle Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 16:36:22 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven J. Backus" > A friend is doing a production and needs one. They look kind of > pricey on the web. Any ideas where to borrow one for a short > duration and perhaps program credit? I'll be at the theatre for a board meeting tonight at 6:30. Just stop by and I'll loan you one of ours. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 20:02:32 -0400 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: Suggestions for Rome? In-reply-to: Message-id: <5ff7ddefc66b3af26b10d8b48fb67c13 [at] klad.com> References: We stayed at the Hotel Artemide on Via Nationale near the Stazione=20 Termini this past New Year's Eve. Rather than join the many celebrants=20= in the streets, we opted for a night in the hotel room with friends and=20= little buffet. This sent us looking (all too late in the day) for=20 markets and we wound up at the 'pharmacy' in the train station. The=20 shops reminded us of Union Station in DC, without the US national=20 chains. The food we found, even there, was amazing. But, the real fun=20 was hanging with my buddy waiting for our wives to return from hunting=20= down some chocolate. Many had already begun to party and the people=20 watching was superb. I can only imagine what the return trips brought. On Apr 30, 2005, at 7:30 PM, Bill Sapsis wrote: > When I'm in London I stay at the hotel attached to Victoria Station. =20= > The > station is a great place to watch the people parade go by. Especially=20= > on a > Friday night after the pubs have closed. > > ----- Kevin Lee Allen Production Designer http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com =F0 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:32:01 -0500 Subject: Re: jefferson/adams From: john penisten In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Chris, Just tell me where to ship, and how much you need. I knew there was a reason I still lived in Wisconsin, besides my wife. Offer stands for any other interested parties, within reason of course. > Leinenkugels's beer. This year, unfortunately, I was on the road and > the > beer went (I believe) to the sister-in-law's parents, ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: This month in designer history Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:37:49 -0700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Scary, Richard, to know that I actually knew six of these people on a personal level. I must be getting damn old. Doom -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of RICHARD FINKELSTEIN Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 7:29 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: This month in designer history For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Greetings list folk. Here are the designer related anniversaries for May that I have extrapolated from the newly posted May edition of This Month in Theatre History. Enjoy your heritage! Richard Finkelstein http://www.artslynx.org/theatre/ ============================ May 1 36th Anniversary of the death of lighting designer, Jean Rosenthal May 1 130th anniversary of the birth of Russian set and costume designer, Nikolay Ul'yanov May 2 486th Anniversary of the death of of Leonardo da Vinci May 3 93rd Anniversary of the birth of designer, Howard Bay May 3 56th Anniversary of the death of Mario Fortuny Y De Madrazo May 5 56th anniversary of the death of Russian set and costume designer, Nikolay Ul'yanov May 6 21st Anniversary of the death of designer, William Ritman May 7 103rd Anniversary of the birth of designer, Donald Oenslager May 9 108th Anniversary of the birth of lighting visionary, Stanley McCandless May 10 85th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Josef Svoboda May 10 139th Anniversary of the birth of Leon Bakst May 10 4th Anniversary of the death of stage lighting pioneer, Fred Bentham May 10 15th Anniversary of the death of designer, William Pitkin May 10 217th Anniversary of the birth of Augustin-Jean Fresnel who did NOT design the "Fresnel" lens! May 11 101st Anniversary of the birth of Salvador Dali May 11 134th Anniversary of the birth of Mario Fortuny Y De Madrazo May 12 73rd Anniversary of the birth of designer, David Mitchell May 16 15th Anniversary of the death of Jim Henson May 20 114th Anniversary of Edison's demonstration of the Kinetoscope May 22 55th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Paul de Pass May 23 123rd Anniversary of the birth of Russian Director,Designer, Theodore Komisarjevsky May 25 81st Anniversary of the death of Russian designer, Lyubov Popova May 26 133rd Anniversary of the birth of designer, Joseph Urban May 28 76th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Richard Hay May 28 63rd Anniversary of the death of stage photographer, George W. Lucas ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050501210317.03f19368 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:04:17 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: This month in designer history In-Reply-To: References: Dr. Doom, As long as one of them isn't Leonardo, you're doing fine... Mike At 08:37 PM 5/1/2005, Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson wrote: >Scary, Richard, to know that I actually knew six of these people on a >personal level. I must be getting damn old. Doom > >From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of RICHARD >FINKELSTEIN > >May 2 486th Anniversary of the death of of Leonardo da Vinci ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:16:16 -0400 Subject: Custom Power Cable From: Mike Benonis Message-ID: Does anyone know of any reputable dealers in the Washington, DC (Northern VA) area who can manufacture a custom power cable for me? I need a 50' SEOW 10/5 cable terminated with L21-20 twist lock connectors. Please reply off-list. Best regards, -Mike Benonis Senior and Sound Designer/Technician Stone Bridge High School 43100 Hay Road Ashburn, VA 20147 (703) 779-8900 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050501123057.00b30388 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 12:30:57 From: CB Subject: Re: Light lab activities? >If they used a lot of colour, they got it wrong. See the movie before you judge. There is color, and done so well that even a lowly squint reveled in the quality of the lighting, almost to the point of tears. The lighting was extrordinarily beautiful, and hugely representational of what might have been avalaible for the period, IMO. Saying that they heve erred without actually looking at anything that they have done, Frank, is the peak of pomposity. At least deign to look before you condemn. I'd love to see your esponse to a critic that said that your design was in error without seeing your show. Ya know, when you put your foot in your mouth like this, we'd forgive you far more often if, every once in a while, we got the barest minimum of an apology. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050501121536.00b30388 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 12:15:36 From: CB Subject: Re: New Theater Space >Heavy power feed for touring sound ampland. ...and room for those amps and their accompanying roadboxes and RF racks. Not on the sames side as the rail would be nice, and DSL seems to be traditional. >Large empty conduit ( 4 inch minimum, six inch better ) from ampland >to FOH mix position. Go at least 12" if you are going to use a conduit, and make as few turns as possible, with the radii as large as possible. 4" will almost never get used, unles the FOH guy needs to check e-mail and you can get an ethernet cable that long, or maybe for a coupla headset runs. The stuff I have running out to FOH on this small-ish setup is about 4" in diameter by itself, not to mention the connectors. Even without connectors I'd have to pull the runs all at once. And, speaking of pulling, some method of keeping a rope in the conduit should be discussed. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050501122116.00b30388 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 12:21:16 From: CB Subject: Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre >> >The amount of gear to be stored expands to fill the available space, and >> >probably to overflow it. >Actually, it's a paraphrase of Parkinson's Law. "Work expands to fill the >time available." Most of these are true. Parkinson was a slacker. Usually the gig is done and I'm ready for the next before the next is ready for me. As far as I'm concerned, you want to milk something, work at a dairy. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050501130825.00b30388 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:08:25 From: CB Subject: Re: Copper Tubing >I spill about a tablespoon or two of soup into the sink after I've >poured the rest into a bowl, and then let the pan sit in it. Just the soup, or do you pour a coupla tbsp's into standing water? I like to add a bit of 2% milk to my Campbell's Tomato to give it some body, and to make it creamy, and then pepper the hell out of it (you can almost no longer taste that its a cheap canned soup after all that!). Anyone know if that'll change whatever chemical reaction we're starting? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: New Theater Space Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 21:21:29 -0700 Don't forget major power in the fore and main grid in 3 phase. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Farmer" > Front of house lighting positions that can be reached without ladders and > lifts. > Additional heavy power feeds for touring racks. > Heavy power feed for touring sound ampland. > Large empty conduit ( 4 inch minimum, six inch better ) from ampland > to FOH mix position. > Rehearsal location out in audience for lighting board/sound/etc. > Appropriate > cabling to support it. Power/intercom/DMX/lan. > Convenience outlets all over the place in the seating area. You never > know where you may want to put a follow spot or some damn thing > that needs power. Power plugs in the handicapped seating areas for > recharging their mobies. > Empty conduits from a central wiring closet or booth to everywhere > for future low voltage use. > Wifi access to regular LAN ( not the show control network ), and if > you are an educational institution, lots more power outlets for students > to plug in their laptops. > Empty conduits, power and mounting locations for cameras from > the local cable company public access channel. > Seats that are wider to accommodate the spreading butts of your > audiences. Remember that someone who comes to a show and > spends most of the evening concentrating on their uncomfortable > seat is probably not coming back. > Loading dock that you can back in a 53 foot semitrailer. Parking > spots > for the tour bus, with power, water, drain, phone and LAN connections. > Tall and wide doorways and hallways from the loading dock to the stage > and scene shop. > Showers in the dressing rooms. > Cable pass-throughs next to doorways, especially outside doors for > a recording or production truck. Consider a parking spot for a satellite > uplink truck. Power and cable passthroughs, and a equatorial view. > Courtesy monitors and sound system for lobby, bar/lounge, bathrooms, > and dressing rooms fed from fixed camera in the house. Zoned paging for > them as well. Integrate with fire alarm system. > Smoke detectors that can be turned off temporarily when using > smoke/haze/mist effects. Provision for automatic re-enabling of > smoke detectors after n hours. work with fire marshall on system > design. > Assuming you are in a no-smoking building area, a smokers exile > area that is comfortable, not too far away, and provided with a > courtesy monitor and sound during performances. No ventilation > intakes around the smokers area. > No lifts needed for handicapped access to stage, upper and > lower seating areas. Lifts are expensive and break down a lot. > Insist on on-site inspections during construction. Go on-site > at least twice a week to keep on top of things. Agreed upon > changes have an unfortunate habit of falling off the plans. Other > changes just happen without any design team consultation. > > --Dale > > ------------------------------ From: "Kurt Pragman" Subject: Radiant Floor Heating Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 01:52:11 -0400 Message-ID: <000801c54edb$172cbf20$0200a8c0 [at] shark> In-Reply-To: Scott, I put hydronic radiant heat in the basement slab, garage slab, and both floors. It turned out to be the single most tedious part of building = the house... and was worth every minute! It sounds like your basement ceiling is open. If you don't insulate it after stapling all that pipe up under the first floor you'll be = pleasantly surprised that it will radiate down to the slab just as effectively as = it radiates up through the floor. My basement zone under an unfinished = ceiling has never been used. Radiantec in Vermont was very helpful. BTW, I can't make the USITT meeting Monday. Kurt Pragman ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Phasing for Frank was RE: CD-80 flickering problem Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:28:22 -0700 Dan, You hit it on the nose as I been watching this thread since it started. It is a ground problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Mills" To> > > > > Apparently, your cookers are higher wattage than ours. > > The real place where this shows in in kettles which in the UK have 13A > plugs > and are often rated at between 2 and 3KW. > > The American ones just cannot compete! > > REF the CD-80 problems, try running a heavy earth between the rack and the > console. I have never used AMX, but in D54 installations (an even more > half > assed analogue mux protocol) you often see strange flickers due to earth > noise. > > As both of these systems are single ended with respect to thee level > control > signal I can see the same problem in AMX as I have painful experience of > with > D54. > > Sometimes just running a extension lead from near the racks to power the > desk > (and its video monitor!) will solve this problem. > > I do not miss analogue controlled dimmers! > > Regards, Dan. > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1095.64.28.53.88.1115027401.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 02:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Bill's tale of woe (dimmers) From: "Bill Nelson" >> Meanwhile, there is a show that is just under two weeks from opening >> night. If it is going to fail, I hope it does so quickly - so we can >> call >> in a factory trained technician to look at it. > > Bill: why would you not call in the factory trained tech NOW???? > Something is identifiably broken, you've chased down pretty much every > option, and are getting into some really deep levels of trying to source > the problem. If it were my choice, I would have called a tech a week ago. But this is a community theatre on a very tight budget, and I have to convince the management that such an expenditure is necessary. The nearest factory authorized tech is several hours drive away. And if the equipment does not act up, then it is unlikely that he will find anything to fix. Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #384 *****************************