Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 23288593; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:02:08 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #437 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:01:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #437 1. Re: Job Posting: ME/ Shop supervisor by "Robert Bruemmer" 2. Re: Job Posting: ME/ Shop supervisor by "Don Taco" 3. Re: New tools by "Michael Wade" 4. Re: london theatres by Delbert Hall 5. Re: Job Posting: ME/ Shop supervisor by Bill Sapsis 6. Re: LBM monitor by Sunil Rajan 7. air casters by "David R. Krajec" 8. Re: LBM monitor by "Tony Deeming" 9. Colortran Encore Info? by Chris Rovers 10. OT - Cooperstown by JDruc3737 [at] aol.com 11. Re: OT - Cooperstown by Andrew Vance 12. Re: electroluminescent sheeting by "Michael Finney" 13. Re: LBM monitor by Jonathan Wills 14. Re: OT - Cooperstown by Stephen Litterst 15. Re: Colortran Encore Info? by "jonares [at] hevanet.com" 16. C'mon, folks, give us a break! by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 17. Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! by "jonares [at] hevanet.com" 18. Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! by Jerry Durand 19. electroluminescent sheeting by "Mark Peterson" 20. Re: OT - Cooperstown by Delbert Hall 21. Re: air casters by Bill Sapsis 22. Re: air casters by Greg Bierly 23. Re: Colortran Encore Info? by "Chad Croteau" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Bruemmer" Subject: RE: Job Posting: ME/ Shop supervisor Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:53:23 -0400 Organization: Plymouth State University Message-ID: <001c01c577f2$8a639460$3947889e [at] plymouth.edu> In-Reply-To: Sorry bill,=20 It's 12 trees minimum -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill = Sapsis Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:49 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Job Posting: ME/ Shop supervisor For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- 6 trees, give or take... Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.2778.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders benefit ride for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <039a01c577f3$7c02e550$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Job Posting: ME/ Shop supervisor Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:00:02 -0700 Now now, boys. Everyone knows it's not the size of your tree, it's the temperature of your fire... ----- Original Message ----- Sorry bill, It's 12 trees minimum -----Original Message----- 6 trees, give or take... Bill S. ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Michael Wade" Cc: mike [at] focusnote.com Subject: Re: New tools Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:05:00 -0400 Message-ID: <000601c577f4$2b6ce6d0$0100a8c0 [at] Mike> Hi all. As a small commercial shop in NYC we have: 2 Radial Arm Saws, both 12". One with an 18" cut and the other with a 24" cut 1 DeWalt 12" sliding compound miter saw 1 10" Powermatic Table Saw 1 Striebig 'Compact' Panel Saw (best tool ever) 1 Laguna band saw 1 Powermatic band saw Assorted other small power tools In our metal area we have: 1 Dry Cut metal saw for the steel - Very nice cut but loud. 1 DeWalt miter saw for aluminum cutting. Both radial arm saws are Omga saws. These saws are great, they have cut straight from the day we took them out of the crate. One of them we got from EBay and the other came from our tool guy (not Home Depot). I forgot how nice it is to have a 'good' arm saw. We bought the sliding saw because it is easy and accurate for doing moulding. The Striebig saw is great. It is the only panel saw I have used that cuts square, the cost may be prohibitive for you though. Our Powermatic cabinet saw is nice, it has an Accufence and is left tilt. I would stick with a cabinet saw as my primary table saw. I really like the Laguna band saw as well, cuts like a champ. I think Laguna bought someone's design for their lower end models... I could be wrong though. If you have to make a choice for budgetary reasons I would get a good table saw and a sliding miter saw. Good luck! Mike Wade Daedalus Design and Production Inc. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:07:12 -0400 From: Delbert Hall Reply-To: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: london theatres In-Reply-To: References: Rod, As I found out last year, it is really hard to find people in August in London because so many are on holiday. Both the National Theatre and the Dury Lane have public tours that are not bad, but these are not very technical. You might also contact Shakespear's Globe and ask about a tour. I was there for two weeks last August, so I got to see a lot of their theatre. The London Museum is a great place to spend several hours and it is free. There is alo a Theatre Museum in London (near Dury Lane) that is not too bad. It is also free. Charlie R. and I got a great tour at Stage Technologies. =20 Try to get tickets to see MARY POPPINS. I have not seen it, but I hear it is incredible. JERRY SPRINGER: THE OPERA was a hoot. I am not sure what will be at the National in August, but most of there shows are excellent. Have fun. -Delbert --=20 Delbert Hall Phone: 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:21:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Job Posting: ME/ Shop supervisor From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: For a month! Geez. Now that's cold! And I thought St. Johnsbury got cold. Yikes. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.2778.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders benefit ride for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS On 6/23/05 8:53 AM, "Robert Bruemmer" wrote: > Sorry bill, > > It's 12 trees minimum ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <70125112-E3FB-11D9-9677-000A95BD64AC [at] earthlink.net> From: Sunil Rajan Subject: Re: LBM monitor Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:28:24 -0400 On Jun 22, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote: > I have a Lightboard M setting in a storage > closet. > > Thanks, > > Jonathan Wills Probably the best place for it. ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "David R. Krajec" Subject: air casters Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:10:53 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: So, Bill, what is your favorite air caster? I'm a big fan of those bad boys, in the right application. One caveat to anyone who has to/wants to use them. Seal all of the seams in your stage floor with clear packing tape. ANY leak of air through the cracks will cause the unit to sit down and not budge an inch. Even if you are only running them at 20 PSI, the air will finds the smallest opening. David K. ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: RE: LBM monitor Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:41:29 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Sunil Rajan Sent: 23 June 2005 16:28 To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: LBM monitor For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- On Jun 22, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote: .> I have a Lightboard M setting in a storage .> closet. .> .> Thanks, .> .> Jonathan Wills >Probably the best place for it. A totally unfair and untrue statement! Whilst not a desk that could cope with movers etc and not commonly DMX (though I believe there were some later DMX models) the LBM gave us 12 years or so of sterling performance. It did everything we needed it to do, and more, and I'd say would have been at home in a wide variety of fixed installations, am-dram or pro. The versatility of having (on our custom desk) the 72 twin faders coupled with the memory cue system meant that we, as a multi-function venue housing everything from total newbies to occasional pro tours, could accommodate most needs. The only reason for us upgrading was the need to drive movers & DMX kit like foggers etc, plus the extra headroom on the control channel side. Ynot ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:25:14 -0400 From: Chris Rovers Reply-To: Chris Rovers Subject: Colortran Encore Info? Hi, all. I've changed list addresses since the last time I emailed this list, but I was the guy looking for storage ideas for a tiny black box community theatre (80 person capacity) that was being re-built after partially burning down. The lighting board we are putting in there (if we ever get it built!) is a donated old Colortran Encore. It ran a theatre MUCH larger then ours for years and our requirements are not large - no movers, no scrollers, so I expect it will do the job. We'll have 24 channels of dimmers. Any comments, hints, tips, secrets, etc on this board I can pass on to those who will end up using it? (I'm more of a carp then a lights guy) As well, there's no monitor with it. I haven't had a chance to pull it out of the box and/or read the manual yet (being sort of occupied with making sure that the theatre has things like a roof and a floor and four walls) but if anyone knows a> if it uses a monitor and b> what the specs of that monitor might be (cga? ega? vga? when do these things date from, anyways?), that'd be helpful, too. Thanks for the help :) -cdr ------------------------------ From: JDruc3737 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <54.46d9c531.2fec5f91 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:55:13 EDT Subject: OT - Cooperstown My wife and I decided to get away for a couple of days and Cooperstownhas become the destination of choice. (To keep this stagecraft related I will point out that Glimmerglass Opera makes its home there.) Anyone have any restaurant recommendations? Anyone from Glimmerglass on this list? Jeff Jeffrey Drucker Production Manager Bard College Theater & Dance Depts. 845-758-7956 drucker [at] bard.edu ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: OT - Cooperstown Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:16:29 -0500 On 23 Jun, 2005, at 13:55, JDruc3737 [at] aol.com wrote: > My wife and I decided to get away for a couple of days and > Cooperstownhas > become the destination of choice. (To keep this stagecraft related > I will point > out that Glimmerglass Opera makes its home there.) Anyone have any > restaurant > recommendations? Anyone from Glimmerglass on this list? I worked at Glimmerglass a couple of years ago. Nothing is more beautiful than that area in the summertime [provided its not raining, like it always seemed to while I was there]. Definitely make it out to Glimmerglass if you get the chance. If you're there on a Saturday, stay and watch the changeover between the afternoon opera and the evening one. While I've only seen a sped up video version of it [having had to work them instead], I've heard there actually quite interesting to watch. The PM or another staff member gives running commentary and answers guests questions during it. I still know a couple of people who work at Glimmerglass if you'd like me to contact them. Restaurants: In Cooperstown, there's a little restuarant not far from the Hall of Fame called the Bistro. Very nice food and great atmopshere. Not too terribly expensive for a trouist town in the middle of summer. There's another great restaurant in between Glimmerglass and Copperstown on State Highway 80 on the lakeside of the road. I think its the Blue Mingo, but its a seafood/steak house; pricey as I remember it, but well worth it. The restaurant and the hotel/golf course just on the northern outside of Copperstown is also very, very nice. Sorry I can't remember all the names, but it has been awhile. Of course, I always went to the Arby's on the way to Oneonta or in Herkimer when I had the time, but I'm a sucker for sliced beef. If its still open, you should check out Banana Dan's [Whipty-Dip as the folks at Glimmerglass call it]. Its the best ice cream shop/drive in food stand I've been to. Its on US20, not too far east of the US20/NY80 intersection. I highly recommend it. I never went to the Baseball Hall of Fame because I wasn't a baseball fan when I was there. [I also grew up in a tourist town, so I like to avoid tourist traps if I have the chance.] The Soccer Hall of Fame is in Oneonta, which isn't that far away. Always a good idea to check out Otsego Lake whenever you can. There's tons of golf around, and just driving/biking around the countryside is beautiful enough for me. Finally, a subject I know something about! Let me know if you have any other questions. -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer www.andrewvance.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: electroluminescent sheeting Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:39:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Michael Finney" On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 Cris Dopher wrote: <> Not really local, but the folks at CeeLite have a distributor in Ambler = PA: Luminosity, Inc. 1430 Jonathan Way Ambler, PA 19002 215.643.5244 (phone) 215.643.7125 (fax) CeeLite's home is: CeeLite, Inc 30 West Vine St. Lansdale, PA 19446 877.223.3633 (phone) 215.412.3770 (fax) www.ceelite.com (web) I've had real good luck with these folks for quick turnaround and good = selection of sizes for sheets....=20 Michael Finney Thinkwell Design & Production mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com www.thinkwelldesign.com =A0 PS - I completely concur with the selection of Shakespeare's Pizza in = Columbia as possibly my favourite pizza of all time. I may not have = survived college without them.... ...and, of course, The Heidelberg - the closest bar (and restaurant) to = the theatre.... ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:37:39 -0400 From: Jonathan Wills Reply-To: Jonathan Wills Subject: Re: LBM monitor In-Reply-To: References: I enjoyed this board. My big problem with it is it started to "forget" things and began to create unusual cues during a show. It ran a local college theatre here for 10 years until it was replaced with an Express 24/48. I have many fond memories on the LBM. I just do not necessaryily want to have to work on one again. If I have a choice. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:51:33 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: OT - Cooperstown Message-id: <42BB3CF5.368BCA07 [at] Ithaca.edu> Organization: Ithaca College References: JDruc3737 [at] aol.com wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > My wife and I decided to get away for a couple of days and Cooperstownhas > become the destination of choice. (To keep this stagecraft related I will point > out that Glimmerglass Opera makes its home there.) Anyone have any restaurant > recommendations? Anyone from Glimmerglass on this list? Nearby in Oneonta is Brooks Barbecue. Amazing chicken barbecue and fantastic ribs. (The pork didn't do much for me) In Cooperstown proper there's a basement cafe whose name I don't remember that was a nice place to grab a chili dog for lunch. Steve Litterst ------------------------------ Message-ID: <61750-220056423225818781 [at] M2W118.mail2web.com> Reply-To: jonares [at] hevanet.com From: "jonares [at] hevanet.com" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:58:18 -0400 Subject: RE: Colortran Encore Info? We'll have 24 channels of dimmers=2E Any comments, hints, tips, secrets, etc on this board I can pass on to those who will end up using it?=20 You don't mention which model of Encore, but basically, it's a good, robus= t board=2E It uses an off-the-shelf VGA monitor, as well=2E Every board ha= s its quirks, but all-in-all, the Encore is reliable (in my experience)=2E - Jon Ares -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Cc: jonares [at] hevanet.com Subject: C'mon, folks, give us a break! Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:14:03 -0400 Message-ID: <001d01c57849$3f323d50$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: Originally, on the Internet, it was the practice to indicate quoted text with a "greater than" sign.... > So that quoted text > looked like this. Some mail programs indicate quoted text by setting it between parallel lines.... 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In-Reply-To: References: At 04:14 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote: >...But *please* use some means of indicating which is the quoted text and >which is your contribution! I've noticed some of the web-based mail programs seem incapable of quoting text. Some also takes out or does other strange things with carriage returns. Oh, and Eudora (which I use on the PCs here) shows quoted text as a vertical grey bar on my screen, but as you can see it gets fixed by the time you see it. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: "Mark Peterson" Subject: electroluminescent sheeting Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:33:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cris - Is this what you mean: http://www.e-lite.com/ These guys are in Trumbull,CT. I'm sure there are other distributors, maybe even some closer to you. It is great stuff - but not cheap. Mark Peterson Subject: electroluminescent sheeting Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:51:46 -0400 Does anybody have leads on vendors for electroluminescent sheeting? Local to New York would be preferable. Thanks! Cris Dopher ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:52:52 -0400 From: Delbert Hall Reply-To: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: OT - Cooperstown In-Reply-To: References: I did some work for Glimmerglass a couple of years ago, and I can tell you that it is a first-class operation. If you want me to contact the TD and try to get you a backstage tour, email me privately. I did not eat at any great resturants in the short time I was there, but the Farmer's Museum was a great hands-on historical site that I highly recommend. They had a really nice selection of old tools. I was not all that impressed with the Fenimore Art Museum. -Delbert --=20 Delbert Hall Phone: 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:11:38 -0400 Subject: Re: air casters From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: In places with bad floor, I'm kinda partial to the ones that employ a bladder that works like a piston. It forces down a standard caster which then allows you to roll the unit around and then set it back down when you're done. What I think may be the problem with the current location is just how rough the floor really is. If it's "off-road" rough then there's not much hope no matter what you do. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.2778.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders benefit ride for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS On 6/23/05 1:10 PM, "David R. Krajec" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > So, Bill, what is your favorite air caster? I'm a big fan of those bad > boys, in the right application. > > One caveat to anyone who has to/wants to use them. Seal all of the seams in > your stage floor with clear packing tape. > ANY leak of air through the cracks will cause the unit to sit down and not > budge an inch. Even if you are only running them at 20 PSI, the air will > finds the smallest opening. > > David K. > > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <35edee8a192d7dee89f0312e186b76f7 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: air casters Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:19:04 -0400 > It forces down a standard caster which > then allows you to roll the unit around and then set it back down when > you're done. The Spoon Group has a very snazy style that you apply air pressure and it locks both the roll and swivel of the caster. They are very expensive but they work very well. You wouldn't use them as all your casters I just made two 12' (11'6") circular platforms that had five triple swivel casters (four compass points and center) and four airlock casters centered between the compass point casters. They locked enough for 4 dancers to do full choreography on them. The actual caster without the pneumatic piston costs about $45 and I believe was developed for airline cart use. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000701c57876$f9c309b0$6601a8c0 [at] cz1lbfinkbrlun> From: "Chad Croteau" References: Subject: Re: Colortran Encore Info? Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:41:21 -0400 I'll second that... My old highschool has an Encore that is now 15 years old. They have yet to have any trouble with it. Good board for what it is/was... Chad > You don't mention which model of Encore, but basically, it's a good, robust > board. It uses an off-the-shelf VGA monitor, as well. Every board has its > quirks, but all-in-all, the Encore is reliable (in my experience). ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #437 *****************************