Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 23458266; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 03:00:52 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #445 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 03:00:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #445 1. Re: On the Subject of pyro by "Bill Nelson" 2. Re: Projections and Hazers by "Dana Taylor" 3. Re: Projections and Hazers by Dorian Kelly 4. on the subject of Pyro by 5. Job posting by "Stirling Shelton" 6. Berkley Rep Fire! by thetd222 [at] email.unc.edu 7. Re: Job posting by Seth Richardson 8. Re: Crew requirements for majors? by Seth Richardson 9. Small Ellipsoidals by "Frank E. Merrill" 10. Re: Small Ellipsoidals by Mike Brubaker 11. Re: SawStop, We have one and love it..... by Stuart Wheaton 12. LRLR 2006 by Bill Sapsis 13. Re: Small Ellipsoidals by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 14. Re: Small Ellipsoidals by "Stephen E. Rees" 15. Re: LRLR 2006 by Seth Richardson 16. Costa Rica by "Stephen E. Rees" 17. Re: Crew requirements for majors? by Scott Parker 18. Contractor gets nailed: two surgeries required by Scott Parker 19. Re: Small Ellipsoidals by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 20. who is ultimately responsible by b d 21. Re: Small Ellipsoidals by "Bill Nelson" 22. Re: Where does the responsibility lie? by June Abernathy 23. Re: Small Ellipsoidals by "Jon Ares" 24. Stainless Steel by "Rob Carovillano" 25. Re: Small Ellipsoidals by Mike Brubaker 26. Re: LRLR 2006 by Bill Sapsis *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <4438.64.28.54.230.1120213472.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 03:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: On the Subject of pyro From: "Bill Nelson" > Yep - you're right, looking at the description, it won't suit the actual > gag > idea. Have to say I was a bit wary when I was asked about the effect in > the > first place, but, being the sort of guy who never says never (well, hardly > ever!) from the go, I always pride myself on at least investigating > possibilities first. > Thanks for the links, and I'll keep searching for options before I go back > and say that it's a no-brainer in the way they want to play it! I am afraid that any pyrotechnic spark generation is out of question if the prop is going to be tossed around. Such an effect requires high heat - even if the resulting sparks cool rapidly. In all my years involved with fireworks, I have never heard of anything that would be suitable. Small leds could be hooked up to blink in a pseudorandom manner. It might be possible to build a smoke cartridge into the prop, but it is not something that I would want to tackle. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 06:45:53 -0500 From: "Dana Taylor" Subject: RE: Projections and Hazers "Bummer about the scrim. On the tour, we did project some stuff against the back wall as well as the scrim. Depending on sight lines, that might work for you.=20 I'm afraid any fog dense enough to project against would be deeply unpopular with the singers, and probably the director and/or musical director." I agree with June that the sheer density of the fog might be a real = problem for the singers. Thank you for your insight. In regard to the scrim, the director simply does not want to use one. I'm = not really sure why other than a concern that the flyman might miss the = cue. (no, I don't understand that either). Also, in regard to "Javert's Suicide", only the bridge will fly (akin to = the original production". Common sense ruled the day. Thank you all again for your comments. Dana Dana W. Taylor Mt. Vernon Sr. High School 812.838.4356 ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:06:54 +0100 From: Dorian Kelly Subject: Re: Projections and Hazers >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >"What is "chemical fog" and how does it differ from haze, which >presumably is also created by vaporizing a chemical liquid?" > >I said "chemical" to differntiate from a dry ice fog. My wife just walked >by and indicated that a chemical fog is probably drug induced. You will get a lot of beam effects and very little in the way of recognisable image unless you can confine the fog to a single plane by means of e.g. laminar air flow. It would be good for fire and flood effects witht a lot of three dimensional movement if you use a video projector ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002801c57e4b$fa11ba80$0600a8c0 [at] lpt> From: References: Subject: on the subject of Pyro Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:48:40 -0500 Organization: Minnesota Ballet Has theatrefx gotten their license to sell Pyro yet? When they moved from MD to KY they forgot to check the state laws about selling Pyro and for a long time had to close down that side of their business. Kenneth Pogin Production Manager Minnesota Ballet ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200507011602.MAA25935 [at] playhsn.cincyplay.com> From: "Stirling Shelton" Subject: Job posting Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:05:39 -0400 Looking for a GREAT Prop person: Any help would be greatly appreciated Job Posting: Properties Carpenter Job responsibilities will include, but will not be limited to: . Building Props for Productions . Wood, Metal, Plastic Construction . Web searches for new materials . Good eye for color, proportions and style. . Experience with computer graphic and casting . Must have a valid driver's license and reliable transportation. . Outside shopping as needed The Tony Award winning Cincinnati Playhouse in the Park seeks an individual for the position of Properties Carpenter/ Prop Artisan in our high volume prop department. The ideal candidate will be well-rounded and organized with proficiency in carpentry, welding, upholstery, and sewing. Computer and shopping skills a plus. Candidates must be able to manage time well and work independently in a fast paced environment. Positive attitude, strong communication skills, sense of humor, and problem solving abilities required. Position includes vacation and health benefits. Season runs from late July to Mid May. The Cincinnati Playhouse is an Equal Opportunity Employer. Please respond immediately with letter, resume and three references to: Stirling Shelton Technical Director Cincinnati Playhouse in the Park 2827 Gilbert AVE Cincinnati, OH 45213 Stirling.Shelton [at] cincyplay.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050701145616.u7c80954cgw0ws8g [at] webmail4.isis.unc.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:56:16 -0400 From: thetd222 [at] email.unc.edu Subject: Berkley Rep Fire! References: In-Reply-To: Hello all, I don't know if this has already been discussed & I a bit be hind, but if not... PS - of course the pictures are not attached, email me off list if you want to see them. - Will Leonard ATD - Alabama Shakespeare Festival -Fwd: Message - Folks, Many of you may have already heard, but the Berkley Rep scene/paint shop burned to the ground Wednesday night, Thursday morning. Our paint charge, Lisa Lazar is the paint charge for the rep. From what Lisa tells me, they lost everything including their computers, all files, all tools, paints, and a brand new set they had just finished. Lisa told us they have eight days to build a new one before opening! In addition, the TD was moving and had moved everything he owned into the space before moving it into a new space. He lost everything. On a positive note, no one was hurt. Attached are pictures that were sent to Lisa from friends in Berkley. Herb Herb Garman Safety Coordinator Glimerglass Opera Company www.glimmerglass.org Cooperstown NY 13326 607-547-5704 Ext. 223 607-547-6030 Fax ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:48:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Job posting From: Seth Richardson In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Work for Cincinnati Playhouse you get to play with there New 10" Professional Cabinet Table Saw from SawStop. Seth Richardson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:09:26 -0400 Subject: Re: Crew requirements for majors? From: Seth Richardson In-Reply-To: Message-Id: On Thursday, June 30, 2005, at 10:40 AM, Scott Parker wrote: > > Thanks everyone. The info has been very helpful. I had a meeting with > the chair yesterday and he is ready to shock the system with a new > requirement. The seniors will be the hardest, but I'll get to send > them to the chair. > So Scott, Tell us all what you have come up with and how does it compare to before? Seth Richardson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:46:39 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <754357453.20050701144639 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Small Ellipsoidals Howdy ! A customer of mine is seeking a modest quantity of physically small ellipsoidal spotlights that use a 200 watt or smaller lamp bulb but will accept gobos easily. Any suggestions? Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050701161552.038c8a40 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:16:09 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Small Ellipsoidals In-Reply-To: References: Altman MicroEllipse? At 02:46 PM 7/1/2005, Frank E. Merrill wrote: >ellipsoidal spotlights that use a 200 watt or smaller lamp bulb but >will accept gobos easily. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42C5B862.3040008 [at] fuse.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:40:50 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: SawStop, We have one and love it..... References:

In-Reply-To: Bill Nelson wrote: > I also question the wisdom of repeated demonstrations of the device, > regardless of short term cost. Such quick stopping of the motor and blade > must put some nasty strains on the machinery. > > Bill I was hoping Stirling would respond since he has the real skinny right there, but, IIRC, the module de-couples the blade from the motor, Slams a stopper of some sort into the blade and drops it below the table, all in a heartbeat. By de-coupling the motor, the only mass that stops fast is the blade and arbor, and the blade is toast anyhow. The motor can wind down as with a normal power off stop. As best I can tell, the system only works with the saw running, so if you touch the spinning blade after you turn the saw off, but before the blade stops normally, you will get just as mangled as with any other table saw. This kind of injury is quuite common from what I've seen, usually when grabbing a cut off, or just out of carelessness. Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:52:05 -0400 Subject: LRLR 2006 From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hi folks. Just when you thought it was safe to go out onto the highways again..... The Long Reach Long Riders announce their 2006 charity ride. Dates: July 9 - 18, 2006 Destination: Rapid City, South Dakota So, if you were thinking of coming with us this year but the timing didn't work out, now you know when we're going and can work out your schedules. We're having a great time but would love to have a lot more folks with us. Thanks Be well Bill www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.2778.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders benefit ride for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <20e.4046e6e.2ff72186 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:45:26 EDT Subject: Re: Small Ellipsoidals In a message dated 01/07/05 20:47:18 GMT Daylight Time, Lamplighter [at] tcon.net writes: > A customer of mine is seeking a modest quantity of physically small > ellipsoidal spotlights that use a 200 watt or smaller lamp bulb but > will accept gobos easily. Ellipsoidals tend to be long. The smallest ones I know of are the CCT Minuette and the Strand Minim. Both are about 15" long, and 4" square. Both take 'C'size gobo holders, and, I think, will take 250W lamps. The Minuette is greatly superior. The trouble is, they are both obsolete. If you could find them, I should suggest the original Strand Patt. 23, although they are quite bulky, with their spherical bodies. But they have an antique value. Strand Patt. 100 are small, about 4" cube plus the lenses, but take no known size of gobo. The gate is about 2" square. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42C5CC03.3000405 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:04:35 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Small Ellipsoidals References:

That would be my suggestion as well. Steve Rees Mike Brubaker wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Altman MicroEllipse? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:04:47 -0400 Subject: Re: LRLR 2006 From: Seth Richardson In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <854F4006-EA84-11D9-A596-00050201851C [at] adelphia.net> On Friday, July 1, 2005, at 05:52 PM, Bill Sapsis wrote: > The Long Reach Long Riders announce their 2006 charity ride. > > Dates: July 9 - 18, 2006 > Destination: Rapid City, South Dakota Same routes? East and West? You know, you may have more luck finding riders if it wasn't dead center of the Summer stock season. If your going to do it in July why not the 1st-10th of July that way you can promote to the 4th Travelers? More people means more money for BC/EFA Just a though, Seth Richardson Oh and Loren 1300 miles in 23 hours on a BIKE to get home. man oh man... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42C5CE2E.9040008 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:13:50 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Costa Rica Hi Folks, Well, the day has finally arrived. My assistant and I leave for Costa Rica in the morning. Thanks to all who provided information several months ago. Have learned an awful lot about the place and even made a quick trip in early June to get the shop started on the set and to familiarize myself with the theatre and the crew. I am anticipating a pretty good time of it all. I am hoping to stay in touch with the list but we'll cross that bridge when I get there. Other wise, I'll be back in early August and will make comments then. Any one else who goes would probably get some value from what we learn. Bye y'all. Steve Rees LD, Madama Butterfly Compania Lirica Nacional San Jose, Costa Rica ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980507011826324f2c77 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:26:34 -0400 From: Scott Parker Reply-To: Scott Parker Subject: Re: Crew requirements for majors? In-Reply-To: References:

I'll give a report as changes are made. What I inherited was: one class called production crew that all freshman majors have to take. Meets once a week for a three hour lecture, once a week for a two hour lab in the shop and then also has to serve on a show crew. As this was only freshman, I was unable to benefit from the upper classmen experience. I have a very limited group of tech majors at the moment. The program has been all but dormant for the past several years. However, the dept. has over 150 acting/musical theater majors! I'll post more as time goes on. Believe me, I'll probably have more questions as well. Thanks, Scott On 7/1/05, Seth Richardson wrote: > So Scott, >=20 > Tell us all what you have come up with and how does it compare to > before? >=20 >=20 > Seth Richardson >=20 >=20 --=20 Take care, Scott Scott C. Parker Professor/Technical Director Dept. of Performing Arts Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza=20 New York, NY 10038 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980507011848405eb761 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:48:34 -0400 From: Scott Parker Reply-To: Scott Parker Subject: Contractor gets nailed: two surgeries required Be careful! Another story of a pro getting nailed.... Literally. Two surgeries and four days in the hospital. My neighbor is having their house redone. The contractor is doing everything just right. To the point that I want to redo stuff I did to my house. This guy is on the ball. However, he nailed himself in the wrist with his nail gun. Yup, the wrist. I had to ask him how... He was on a ladder (no wait, it's not what you think) and his nailer was hanging on one of those big tool belt hooks. Yup, his wrist hit the safety and the gun fired. The trigger was being pressed by the tool belt hook. Remember, it can happen to anyone! This guy wasn't just playing around. Stay safe, Scott --=20 Take care, Scott Scott C. Parker Professor/Technical Director Dept. of Performing Arts Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza=20 New York, NY 10038 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Cc: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: RE: Small Ellipsoidals Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:38:11 -0400 Message-ID: <002701c57eaf$181f7ae0$2f01a8c0 [at] pepys> In-Reply-To: > Altman MicroEllipse? Altman also makes something called the Master Ellipse, but I'm waiting for the Submissive Ellipse. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050702034132.52792.qmail [at] web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: b d Subject: who is ultimately responsible So.. The designer conceives a beautiful set. The TD, production manager and producer have extensive meetings with the design team, the equity SM, the director, and the run crew. According to those in the know, everything is within the parameters of all unions involved. When someone trips and falls on the set, who is responsible? Someone is, of course, because nobody trips on there own! Someone is to blame! We have become so sensitive to crap that we cannot live our lives without living in fear. I'm a damn good TD, but after reading some of he posts over the last few months, I'm beginning to wonder why any of us do the work we do. It must be for our love of Litigation! Apparently, there is still a case pending from the great "Deus Ex Machina tragedy" that the greeks suffered from way back when. I hear the personal injury lawyers have recently caught on to this ancient case and are looking for three sheep and indoor plumbing (thats about 33% of nothing(yeah I know, it's not the ancient greeks who invented indoor plumbing so..)). Any way, just a rant Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2097.64.28.61.99.1120276254.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Small Ellipsoidals From: "Bill Nelson" >> Altman MicroEllipse? Do you mean the 3.5Q? As far as I know, they are still in production. There are 5 different focal lengths 5, 6, 8, 10 and 12 inch. There are a couple of different lamp base assemblies available. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050702035446.35024.qmail [at] web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:54:46 -0700 (PDT) From: June Abernathy Subject: Re: Where does the responsibility lie? >My question is: Who is responsible in these >situations to ensure that >the design is in keeping with equity contract? I >certainly have my own opinions but would like to here >what you all think. >Jason Tollefson The answer is, unfortunately, it depends. There isn't really a universal clear job description for a lot of theater jobs, and, as was discussed on a recent thread, "Production Manager" is one of the most fluid of job descriptions. And who is in charge of making sure you don't violate Equity rules? Well, generally the Stage Manager and Equity Deputies in terms of Rehearsals and staging, and often the Company Manager or General Manager in terms of Housing, Transportation and Payroll. But for Scene Design and Technical issues in general? Not really well defined. I'd say Production Manager heads the list, though. But it varies. Looking out for Equity limitations on the technical elements (whether the issue is a rake, a sprung floor, fog, railings, or whatever), would, in my opinion, be a consideration for the Designer, the Production Manager, and the TD. And in early production or design meetings, when the Scenic Designer said "Well, I'm thinking of doing a big raked stage . . .", it would not be unusual for the Producer or Director or Stage Manager to ask if he had taken Union Limitations into account. Certainly, an experienced Producer, seeing that the design called for a rake, might have a chat with the Designer and/or the Production Manager and/or the TD to make sure that the exact situation you encountered did not occur. Who should be responsible? All of them - Producer, Designer, Production Manager, and Technical Director. You could throw some blame at the Director if you were so inclined. If you have any one of these jobs in an Equity house, you should always be on the lookout for potential problems like these. But who gets called on the carpet and who gets away clean? That depends on the specific team and not only company policies, but their interwoven histories, loyalties, and etc. Looks like in this instance, the Scenic Designer had the muscle and the Production Manager did not. And since he was covering for the TD, he insulated the TD from blame too. Bummer, maybe, but I doubt there is anything you could do about it. June Abernathy IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL) FOH Electrician The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000501c57ebe$e30d68c0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Small Ellipsoidals Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:31:16 -0700 >>> Altman MicroEllipse? > > Do you mean the 3.5Q? As far as I know, they are still in production. No, the MicroEllipse. I've used 'em. Small profile fixture - uses MR-16 lamps. Shutters get a little "moushy" with age (don't hold their positions well). Cute, but really longer on cuteness than on ruggedness. Don't know if they still are in production from Altman. I bet a trip to Altmanlighting.com would tell one the answer.... - Jon Ares ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 02:07:36 -0400 From: "Rob Carovillano" Subject: Stainless Steel Message-id: <000201c57ecc$584b3880$6401a8c0 [at] desktop> References: Does anyone know a good online source for stainless steel, I am looking for a piece approx 2'x4'. Rob Carovillano Technical Director - Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University (610) 660-1044 rcarovillano [at] verizon.net ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050702001137.04101d90 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 00:12:48 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Small Ellipsoidals In-Reply-To: References:

No. The 3.5Q is a little larger than the MicroEllipse. Mike At 10:50 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: > >> Altman MicroEllipse? > >Do you mean the 3.5Q? As far as I know, they are still in production. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 03:23:20 -0400 Subject: Re: LRLR 2006 From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: For every person who has a conflict with those times, there's another who doesn't. We had to pick something and these dates are what we believe will work the best. Yeah, Loren was a man possessed. Kids, don't try that at home. Later Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.2778.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders benefit ride for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS On 7/1/05 7:04 PM, "Seth Richardson" wrote: > Same routes? East and West? You know, you may have more luck finding > riders if it wasn't dead center of the Summer stock season. If your > going to do it in July why not the 1st-10th of July that way you can > promote to the 4th Travelers? More people means more money for BC/EFA > > Just a though, > > Seth Richardson > > Oh and Loren 1300 miles in 23 hours on a BIKE to get home. man oh man... ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #445 *****************************