Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 23549652; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:00:54 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #450 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:00:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #450 1. Re: Dichoric Sheets (High End Color Merge) by "Paul Sanow" 2. Re: Dichoric Sheets (High End Color Merge) by "Chris Warner" 3. dichroic filter homemade unit by kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu 4. Re: Where does the responsibility lie? by "Ehrenberg, Steven" 5. Re: PDA by "Andy Leviss" 6. Re: Library programs-Catagorization by J Burch 7. looking for a special paint roller cleaner by "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" 8. Re: looking for a special paint roller cleaner by "Steve Jones" 9. Pipe threaders by Michael Heinicke 10. Snow in a low room by "Kevin Linzey" 11. Tape roller by Michael Heinicke 12. Slowing down a mirror ball by "Laura McMeley" 13. Re: Pipe threaders by Richard Bakos 14. Re: Slowing down a mirror ball by Richard Bakos 15. Re: Pipe threaders by "Michael Diederich" 16. Re: Slowing down a mirror ball by "Michael Diederich" 17. Re: looking for a special paint roller cleaner by "Brian Busch" 18. Re: Where does the responsibility lie? by CB 19. Re: OT-Fireworks by CB 20. Re: dichroic filter homemade unit by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 21. Re: Where does the responsibility lie? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 22. Re: looking for a special paint roller cleaner by Scott Parker 23. Re: Begining Production Management by CB 24. Re: Library programs-Catagorization by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 25. Re: Pipe threaders by Dale Farmer 26. Re: OT-Fireworks by "Rob Carovillano" 27. Re: Beginning Production Management by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 28. Re: OT-Fireworks by "Kevin Linzey" 29. Re: OT-Fireworks by Jerry Durand 30. Merchant accounts? by "Steve Jones" 31. Re: Snow in a low room by usctd [at] columbia.sc 32. Re: OT-Fireworks by Stephen Litterst 33. LD/ME Help Needed ASAP! by "Hofmann, Christopher" 34. Re: LD/ME Help Needed ASAP! by "Jon Ares" 35. Re: LD/ME Help Needed ASAP! by "Hofmann, Christopher" 36. Re: LD/ME Help Needed ASAP! by IAEG [at] aol.com 37. Re: Merchant accounts? by Dale Farmer 38. Re: Merchant accounts? by Jerry Durand 39. Re: Slowing down a mirror ball by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 40. Re: OT-Fireworks by Brian Munroe 41. Re: OT-Fireworks by Jerry Durand 42. Re: OT-Fireworks by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 43. Re: Pipe threaders by Greg Bierly 44. Re: OT-Fireworks by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 45. Lamp Question by "Rob Carovillano" 46. Re: Merchant accounts? by Charlie Richmond 47. Re: Lamp Question by John Vink 48. Re: dichroic filter homemade unit by "Chris Warner" 49. Re: looking for a special paint roller cleaner by "Alf Sauve" 50. Re: OT-Fireworks by Joseph Champelli 51. McFeelys Screws by "Rob Carovillano" 52. Re: Merchant accounts? by Richard Bakos 53. Re: Looking for a Star Drop by "Dirk Van Pernis" 54. Re: McFeelys Screws by Greg Bierly 55. Re: Merchant accounts? by Mark O'Brien 56. Re: Merchant accounts? by "James, Brian" 57. Re: Merchant accounts? by Jerry Durand 58. Re: Snow in a low room by "Chad Croteau" 59. Re: still more dichroic filters by "John Gibilisco" 60. Re: Merchant accounts? by Mark O'Brien 61. Re: still more dichroic filters by "Chris Warner" 62. Re: Where does the responsibility lie? by "Bill Nelson" 63. Re: OT-Fireworks by "Bill Nelson" 64. Re: Dichoric Sheets (High End Color Merge) by "Bill Nelson" 65. Re: Merchant accounts? by Dale Farmer 66. Re: OT-Fireworks by "Bill Nelson" 67. Re: dichroic filter homemade unit by "Bill Nelson" 68. Re: Merchant accounts? by "Bill Nelson" 69. Re: Merchant accounts? by Charlie Richmond 70. Re: still more dichroic filters by "Bill Nelson" 71. Re: Merchant accounts? by Charlie Richmond *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Dichoric Sheets (High End Color Merge) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:15:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Paul Sanow" > What I am looking for is a stupid idea I have to build a=20 > dichioric 3 color > mixing system for common lighting fixtures. I know that=20 > morpheus probably > has a stranglehold on this market, but I have not found=20 > anything that uses > dichioric strings. My theory is to use a sort of 3 string=20 > stack, with the > coating gradiant from one end of the string to another. Actually, the product that comes to mind is the Color Merge by High End = Systems http://www.highend.com/products/dichroic_theatre/colormerge.asp Paul *********************************************************** Paul Sanow psanow [at] vls.com Technical Sales www.vincentlighting.com Vincent Lighting Systems 1420 Jamike Ln. #2 Erlanger, KY 41018 (859) 525-2000 x211 FAX (859) 525-2050 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Message-ID: <032f01c58226$8e7249f0$6401a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" References: Subject: Re: Dichoric Sheets (High End Color Merge) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:30:55 -0700 Great product, however, it only works with Source 4 fixtures. I am hoping to put together a device that would work in any fixture. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Sanow" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:15 AM Subject: Re: Dichoric Sheets (High End Color Merge) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > What I am looking for is a stupid idea I have to build a > dichioric 3 color > mixing system for common lighting fixtures. I know that > morpheus probably > has a stranglehold on this market, but I have not found > anything that uses > dichioric strings. My theory is to use a sort of 3 string > stack, with the > coating gradiant from one end of the string to another. Actually, the product that comes to mind is the Color Merge by High End Systems http://www.highend.com/products/dichroic_theatre/colormerge.asp Paul *********************************************************** Paul Sanow psanow [at] vls.com Technical Sales www.vincentlighting.com Vincent Lighting Systems 1420 Jamike Ln. #2 Erlanger, KY 41018 (859) 525-2000 x211 FAX (859) 525-2050 *********************************************************** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1120660420.42cbebc4d4d91 [at] webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:33:40 -0400 From: kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu Subject: dichroic filter homemade unit References: In-Reply-To: Well, the only thing i am thinking is that in my experience the place where the dichroic filters really 'shine' is in the blue range especially with lamps that have a significant uv output. I am not sure you will gain much by trying to make a dichroic mixing system using 'conventional' fixtures. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Where does the responsibility lie? Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:26:55 -0500 Message-ID: <95E1F758C14A0248B42D6FC9D67C7C3203D005B1 [at] CCUMAIL14.usa.ccu.clearchannel.com> From: "Ehrenberg, Steven" Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:21:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Where does the responsibility lie? From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: "Delbert writes:=20 > I can understand why many of you want to place the responsibility on > the production manager, but I feel that if the Equity stagemanager did > nothing to catch and prevent the problem, this is where the > responsibility lies. Well, she did, didn't she? AFTER it was built? ;) And is it really her job, or the job of the designated Equity Deputy? While I remain convinced in my own opinion that primary fault is with the PM, it has been enlightening reading the opinions of others, especially June's. Lots of food for thought. It would seem that a logical case can be made to put primary blame for the snafu on nearly anybody involved...so at this point, I ask: who was the FIRST person who should've caught the problem and who was the LAST person? Cris Dopher" June how do you get any speed up to chase those ambulances? I imagine it must be difficult starting from the follow spot booth in the Hippodrome. Even with the hospital in the next block, I am sure not too many ambulances get that close to the booth! Maybe you are doing it on your way to and from the Theater! Nice Post June! I have to opt for the shared responsibility in the case described. PM/TD and Stage manager all should have foreseen the issue as they looked at the plans or taped the set on the rehearsal hall floor or got an understanding (in the plan stage) of what the cast had to deal with. I do not think the designer is one at whom to point the finger. Practicality, constructability and safety issues are certainly something the PM and SM should help the designer understand and correct. As far as blaming the equity deputy, that is absurd. The deputy's responsibility extends only to informing the union that there is an issue involving equity members, this would certainly be after the fact in this case. A similar situation, from an off-Broadway show a few years back (few is a euphemism for more than I'd care to remember), involved a stage with multiple rakes of differing steepness. I was the PM/TD on the project and did catch the fact that some of these rake angles might be an equity problem. I must admit my initial concern about the rake was not about Equity, but about the difficulty in focusing the lighting plot. I was concerned that we needed to add some focus track to accomplish initial focus and to have easy access for maintenance over the run. Once we got on the subject, the SM and I discussed the equity issue and brought the model and plans to the Equity Off-Bway Rep prior to building the set. After some discussion, we lowered the main rake to 3/4" over 1' it was about 1" over 1' in the original design and were allowed to continue with the steeper, much lower trafficked, smaller portions of the rake as designed. This was acceptable to the designer, director and Equity. Everyone was happy. Interestingly, rather than forbid the steep rake, Equity was going to charge hazard pay for everyone who had to work on the main rake as designed, this also got the producer and the general manager onto the lower the rake bandwagon. I know that had the SM and I not caught this the GM and the producer would certainly have been blaming me, the PM, and to a lesser extent the SM as well. Let ne just toss a number of a very classical sweet rake out to the group - I love both visually and physically(to work on) a 1:20 rake. Thoughts? Obviously each situation is different... etc.=20 Steven Ehrenberg=20 Director of Technical Supervision=20 Clear Channel Entertainment - Theatrical=20 220 W 42nd St. 14th floor NY, NY 10036=20 Office 917 421 5461=20 Mobile 917 331 0207 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4868.208.54.14.17.1120664033.squirrel [at] webmail.ducksecho.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:33:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PDA From: "Andy Leviss" I'm gonna heartily second all the recommendations of Palm OS devices; they're a lot more functional then every comparable Windows ME/Pocket PC device I've used. The programs are just generally better written, and there is a MUCH wider variety of programs out there, from basic add-ons to the datebook and address apps to rigging calculators and DMX control programs. I love my new Treo 650, but it sounds like that might be overkill for you. If you do end up looking at Sunil's Palm V, which is not top of the line today by any means, but still very functional and a great starter unit if you don't need the color display or hi-res, I actually have the Palm Portable Keyboard for it that I've been looking to sell for quite some time--it's a laptop sized keyboard that folds up to slightly larger than the Palm itself. Between that and a good word processing program (I recommend WordSmith by Blue Nomad software, personally) you actually can do a great job of word processing on it, provided you have a table surface to work on (the keyboard can't be used on a lap). Or, if you're looking for color and hi-res, I also have the Palm Tungsten T3 I replaced with the Treo that I'd be looking to sell; will spare you the sales pitch, since this isn't the place, but if you're interested in either that or the keyboard to go with Sunil's, drop me an e-mail offlist. Otherwise, I'd seriously consider the Tungsten E as a good middle of the road device, or any of the Zire series, as more current models with great feature options on the lower price range of the scale (the T5, LifeDrive, and Treo 650 being the high end). Best, Andy http://OneFromTheRoad.com Tools, Toys, and Tales for the Theatrical Technician No matter what you choose, though, I don't think you can go wrong with a Palm OS device. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050706155506.18726.qmail [at] web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:55:06 -0700 (PDT) From: J Burch Subject: Re: Library programs-Catagorization In-Reply-To: Greetings There are a variety of ways and programs to input basic information - author, title, ISBN, and so forth. However, at one point in this thread it was brought forth that the need arose from being able to cross reference pictures, designers, and detailed information within the book. I don't have much of an answer on how to accomplish this, and I would be interested to hear suggestions on this as well. It seems as though the database would need to have table of content info, index info, and/or appendix info (list of pictures used for instance) for you to be able to cross reference in this manner. From the responses it seems as though you can create a form and manually input all of the information you want (very time consuming) or perhaps use a library program that will input information based on the ISBN number. Has anyone used these library programs? How much information about the book will they provide about the book? Is it possible to add content / notes to the entries? My other question about this topic (I am currently re-inventorying my library as well) is if there are any thoughts about what to do with computer content. Files of articles, essays, on line research, web page content and so forth. Thanks Jean Burch ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" Subject: looking for a special paint roller cleaner Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:55:42 -0400 Hi listers. I likely asked this a few years ago but never got an answer from anywhere so here goes again. Our TD where I work purchased a few years back an amazing paint roller cover cleaner and I'd like to get one for myself but can't seem to locate the product. It is NOT (I repeeat NOT) that stupid contraption that works like an old fashion spinning top! This device more resembles those pneumatic tubes that bank drive-thrus use. You first attach a special fitting to the sink faucet. Then when you put the roller cover in the tube and screw on the lid, you next screw the lid to the sink fitting. You turn on the water and the water comes out the bottom of the attached tube. Voila in only 10 seconds the water is totally clean! You unscrew the tube from the faucet, open it up and have a perfectly totally clean roller cover!!! I went to the paint store where the TD purchased it from but they forgot where they got theirs from and do not even know what it is called! I asked the paint folk at Home Depot and got my least favorite answer "oh yet I've seen these somewhere but forgot where". For those of you who have hated cleaning those #$%^& roller covers, I hope I have inspired you in the knowledge that there is a FUN way to do it, if only one of us can find out the name or supplier of these blasted things that do exist! Richard Finkelstein rfinkels [at] msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: RE: looking for a special paint roller cleaner Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:08:21 -0500 Organization: Plaza Theatre In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How about: http://www.rollerwizard.com/ Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf > Of RICHARD FINKELSTEIN > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:56 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: looking for a special paint roller cleaner > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi listers. I likely asked this a few years ago but never got > an answer from anywhere so here goes again. > > Our TD where I work purchased a few years back an amazing > paint roller cover cleaner and I'd like to get one for myself > but can't seem to locate the product. It is NOT (I repeeat > NOT) that stupid contraption that works like an old fashion > spinning top! This device more resembles those pneumatic > tubes that bank drive-thrus use. You first attach a special > fitting to the sink faucet. Then when you put the roller > cover in the tube and screw on the lid, you next screw the > lid to the sink fitting. You turn on the water and the water > comes out the bottom of the attached tube. Voila in only 10 > seconds the water is totally clean! You unscrew the tube from > the faucet, open it up and have a perfectly totally clean > roller cover!!! > > I went to the paint store where the TD purchased it from but > they forgot where they got theirs from and do not even know > what it is called! I asked the paint folk at Home Depot and > got my least favorite answer "oh yet I've seen these > somewhere but forgot where". > > For those of you who have hated cleaning those #$%^& roller > covers, I hope I have inspired you in the knowledge that > there is a FUN way to do it, if only one of us can find out > the name or supplier of these blasted things that do exist! > > Richard Finkelstein > rfinkels [at] msn.com > > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050706161539.7695.qmail [at] web81708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:15:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Pipe threaders I am looking to purchase a hand operated pipe threader to repair boom pipes and for other various uses. Since I am wanting to use it on booms, it needs to be able to handle 1-1/2" pipe. Can anyone recommend a supplier? I have looked at McMaster-Carr but I would like to see if there are any less expensive options. TIA, Mike H ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Linzey" Subject: Snow in a low room Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:22:17 -0400 Message-ID: <003b01c58246$e0891910$1101a8c0 [at] nemetschek.net> I am looking for some recommendations for making snow form a height of = about 12ft. I need to cover about a 30'x30' area. My first thoughts were to use a pair of Le Maitre machines and a few = fans to blow the snow around. I'm also thinking about using several Chauvet = snow machines and just placing them around the room to get the full coverage. If you have tried it I'd like to hear what worked, or what didn't. Thanks, Kevin ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050706162740.50747.qmail [at] web81704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:27:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Tape roller In addition to the pipe threader that I just mentioned, I am also looking to purchase a tape roller to use when taping down our dance floor. I know that a lot people just build their own, but I have also seen commerically made units. Can anyone recommend a commercial product to look at? I have already seen the one at http://www.taperoller.com/index.htm. Any others I should consider? TIA, Mike H ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Laura McMeley" Subject: Slowing down a mirror ball Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:29:56 -0500 Does anybody have any ideas on how to slow down a mirror ball. I already tried running it on a dimmer and a Variac. I have thought of replacing the motor with a variable speed motor but don't know where to find one. Laura McMeley LD, Dallas, TX www.geocities.com/lmcmeley/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42CC0756.9040000 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:31:18 -0500 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: Pipe threaders References: In-Reply-To: Harbor freight has one http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=38438 Michael Heinicke wrote: >I am looking to purchase a hand operated pipe threader >to repair boom pipes and for other various uses. Since >I am wanting to use it on booms, it needs to be able >to handle 1-1/2" pipe. > -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42CC07F8.5030908 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:34:00 -0500 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: Slowing down a mirror ball References: In-Reply-To: Power the motor off an oscillator and an audio power amplifier. Change the frequency of the signal. The other option is to pulse the power on and off. Laura McMeley wrote: > Does anybody have any ideas on how to slow down a mirror ball. I > already tried running it on a dimmer and a Variac. I have thought of > replacing the motor with a variable speed motor but don't know where > to find one. -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Pipe threaders Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:40:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Michael Diederich" >>>>>>I am looking to purchase a hand operated pipe threader to repair boom pipes and for other various uses. Since I am wanting to use it on booms, it needs to be able to handle 1-1/2" pipe.<<<<<< I found this one with only a few attachments, but 1 1/2" is one of them, for $40. http://www.toolprice.com/product/7262Q ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Slowing down a mirror ball Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:53:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Michael Diederich" >>>>> Does anybody have any ideas on how to slow down a mirror ball. I already=20 tried running it on a dimmer and a Variac. I have thought of replacing the=20 motor with a variable speed motor but don't know where to find one.<<<<< DJ sites are where to look for the more versatile mirror ball equipment. This is probably more money than what you want to spend, but it does have some pretty nice features that I haven't seen on a mirror ball motor before (like 2 channels of DMX).=20 http://www.djdepot.com/lighting-mirror-balls-c-23_48.html ------------------------------ From: "Brian Busch" Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:57:11 -0600 Subject: Re: looking for a special paint roller cleaner Message-Id: <20050706165712.B0B2DCDA74 [at] ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> I believe the roller washer you are looking for is called the Roller Washer= and can be located at the following address: http://www.rollerwasher.com/ Order Information Contact: Paint Cleaners PO Box 700 Nunda, NY 14517 1-585-335-9099=20 Email: rollerwasher [at] msn.com Have a nice day, Brian Busch Technical Director Coterie Theatre ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050706102833.00cccf20 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:28:33 From: CB Subject: Re: Where does the responsibility lie? >Sorry, I guess I was being to subtle. An opera with a line of singers >holding hands at they enter and cross - and major actors sliding from USC >to DSC would be "musical comedy", at least to me. 'Sarright, the rest of us were giggling. We got it. And to keep it on subject, I think the responsibility lies with the cause of the PM sitting in for the TD (if I have the alpha-bits in the correct order). This would have the PM trying to cover all the TD's bases AND getting the PM gig accomplished. There is no way that something wouldn't be expected to fall through the cracks. If there is no 'someone' responsible for the TD not being there, chalk it up to 'force majeure' and consider yourselves blessed that this is the only thing that went wrong, and no-one was hurt. Keep in mind that the last time I was in a situation where the PM bailed, the replacement was one of the fathers of one of the dancers. Yep, that was his theatrical resume as well, other than he did some walk-on parts in a certain cold-weather ballet that shall not be named. With these qualifications and no idea of the 'way things are' in the theatrical world, he began the long and arduous task of relieving the company of its skilled and experienced crew. Little by little the good folk are leaving, starting with me. The first two shows after I left had sound problems serious enough to bring in the curtain DURING each show. The next season had similar problems. I don't want to know what's gonna happen next since some of their their best flymen have moved on. Be careful where you point the blame gun. If someone is punished because of personal and/or political reasons, and, at least in thier mind, they were actually covering someone else and working thier *HONK* off, you've just alienated the *HONK* out of him, if you haven't lost him. You've definitely taught him that he shouldn't try to bail you out of a serious jam again. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050706104543.00cccf20 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:45:43 From: CB Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks >If the show is synchronized to music, it will be electrically fired, I have *never* seen this gag work well. Ever. I've done sound for these gigs, and I've seen them at shows, watched 'em from the backyard listening to the radio, and they all seemed very 'loosely' based on the rythm of the music, at very best. A lot of this can be attributed to the fact that sound and light travel at different speeds, but even allowing for that, 'eh' was the best marks I've ever given a synchronize display. Not that the fireworks weren't beautiful, though. Yep, that includes this weekend in NY synchronized with the NY Phil. The Macy's display was wonderful, and the music was excellent (although, who can get enough of the Sousa Standards played by a philharmonic orchestra?!?) but the timing did nothing for me. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1c3.2bfebe24.2ffd6efe [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:29:34 EDT Subject: Re: dichroic filter homemade unit In a message dated 06/07/05 15:51:40 GMT Daylight Time, kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu writes: > Well, the only thing i am thinking is that in my experience the place where > the dichroic filters really 'shine' is in the blue range especially with > lamps > that have a significant uv output. I am not sure you will gain much by > trying > to make a dichroic mixing system using 'conventional' fixtures. I think this is so. Dichroic filters work by applying alternate layers of high and low refractive index material to the substrate. By varying the relative thickness of these, a very tightly controlled pass-band can be achieved. This is useful for scientific work. Why it seems to work well for the blues is probably the nature of normal blue gels. A quick look through a LEE swatch book shows that most of the blues have quite significant transmission in the red area. Dichroics would not. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1f1.3f16752c.2ffd7118 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:38:32 EDT Subject: Re: Where does the responsibility lie? In a message dated 06/07/05 16:27:33 GMT Daylight Time, StevenEhrenberg [at] clearchannel.com writes: > I have to opt for the shared responsibility in the case described. PM/TD > and Stage manager all should have foreseen the issue as they looked at > the plans or taped the set on the rehearsal hall floor or got an > understanding (in the plan stage) of what the cast had to deal with. I > do not think the designer is one at whom to point the finger. > Practicality, constructability and safety issues are certainly something > the PM and SM should help the designer understand and correct. I can't agree with this. If you set yourself up as a Set Designer, you need to be aware of all the constraints, real or possible, on your design. To take an extreme example, I have met a design which just did not fit on the stage. Beside that, an excessive rake pales into insignificance. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980507061040395b344c [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:40:30 -0400 From: Scott Parker Reply-To: Scott Parker Subject: Re: looking for a special paint roller cleaner In-Reply-To: References: I"ve used this one and it's great! > How about: >=20 > http://www.rollerwizard.com/ >=20 > Steve >=20 > ************************************* > Steve Jones, Director--=20 Take care, Scott =09Scott C. Parker =09Professor/Technical Director =09Dept. of Performing Arts =09Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University =09Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F =09Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza=20 =09New York, NY 10038 =09212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050706110224.00cccf20 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:02:24 From: CB Subject: Re: Begining Production Management > Combined with the fact >that it's a job in the corporate world, and I've been all but directly >told that I will not advance with this company, I've decided to start >planning the next stage of my career. If you have skills, especially in the corporate gig scene, you can call your bosses competition. Let them know that you work for their competition, and that you've been given clear indications that you have no where to go but else, and that you are willing to start in a subordinate position, but wish to be 'large and in charge' as soon as you catch the drift of things. Nothing tastes so good as someone elses' candy. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <15.481f88a3.2ffd739b [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:49:15 EDT Subject: Re: Library programs-Catagorization In a message dated 06/07/05 16:55:49 GMT Daylight Time, jeanburch_td [at] yahoo.com writes: > There are a variety of ways and programs to input > basic information - author, title, ISBN, and so forth. > However, at one point in this thread it was brought > forth that the need arose from being able to cross > reference pictures, designers, and detailed > information within the book. I don't have much of an > answer on how to accomplish this, and I would be > interested to hear suggestions on this as well. It > seems as though the database would need to have table > of content info, index info, and/or appendix info > (list of pictures used for instance) for you to be > able to cross reference in this manner. Cross-linked databases are the way, I think. My wife has an ambition to log all the operas she has seen. Every performance. Data entry is the problem, here. Calling up a title should produce a cast list, which needs to be filled in. Entering this would be tedious. But filling in the title should produce a form in which to fill in the cast, conductor, etc. I know that it can be done, but lack the skill to do it. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42CC1C70.46C63420 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:01:21 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Pipe threaders References: Michael Heinicke wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I am looking to purchase a hand operated pipe threader > to repair boom pipes and for other various uses. Since > I am wanting to use it on booms, it needs to be able > to handle 1-1/2" pipe. Can anyone recommend a > supplier? I have looked at McMaster-Carr but I would > like to see if there are any less expensive options. > > TIA, > Mike H My experience with the larger pipe threaders are that you definitely get what you pay for. If you figure you just are going to need it a few times a year to touch up damaged threads on a pipe, then one of the cheapies is fine. If you are cutting new threads into a lot of pipe, rent a professional grade powered unit for a day. Use *lots* of cutting oil, and thoroughly deburr and de-sharp the pipe after cutting. Degrease afterwards and then use one of the spray-on metal preservatives after degreasing to keep the rust away. The degreasing solvents and cutting oil vapors can be nasty; well ventilated area, organic solvent respirator, eye protection, oil-proof gloves, and wear your oldest painting clothes that day. --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:40:41 -0400 From: "Rob Carovillano" Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks Message-id: <000b01c5825a$363d6d30$6401a8c0 [at] desktop> References: > I have *never* seen this gag work well. Ever. I've done sound for these > gigs, and I've seen them at shows, watched 'em from the backyard listening > to the radio, and they all seemed very 'loosely' based on the rythm of the > music, at very best. Take a trip to Disney in florida sometime. Rob Carovillano Technical Director - Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University (610) 660-1044 rcarovillano [at] verizon.net ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Beginning Production Management Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:37:39 -0400 Frank wrote: From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <8.6bae1339.2ffc6226 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:22:30 EDT Subject: Re: Begining Production Management In a message dated 05/07/05 20:10:55 GMT Daylight Time, morydd [at] gmail.com writes: > My duties as "lighting technician" have included, among other things, > ordering equipment, interviewing technicians, creating and tracking a > budget database, acting as contact for all technical aspects of events > in our space, lighting design, minor set/props maintnence, running > sound, publishing a newsletter, and occasionally running the light > board. > Any suggestions where to look for something like an "Assistant > Production Manager" sort of role? > Thank you. Don't do it! As a lighting technician, you have a well defined job. As a PM, you don't. Anything and everything can fall on your head. Read back on the list: if it goes wrong, it's your fault. Frank Wood Actually that's not a bad definition for the PM position Frank. When civilians ask what I do I frequently reply: "Not much, just if something bad happens it's my fault." Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ********** E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act. ********** ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Linzey" Subject: RE: OT-Fireworks Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:43:53 -0400 Message-ID: <004b01c5825a$a8c8da10$1101a8c0 [at] nemetschek.net> In-Reply-To: Listening to synchronized fireworks when you are not at the official = viewing spot can be a big let down. I've worked with the system used to launch = the fireworks and it's impressive. The firing system takes into account the time delay of the sound and the different times it takes for the = different types of shells to explode. You pick the point in the music you want to = see the firework and the system knows to launch the shell x seconds before = then. It has gotten to the point that some fireworks companies build in an electronic time delay for exploding the shell rather then depending on a simple time delay fuse that is lit by the lift charge. If you want to see and hear it done right plan a visit to Disney. Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:46 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks >=20 >=20 > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > >If the show is synchronized to music, it will be electrically fired, >=20 > I have *never* seen this gag work well. Ever. I've done=20 > sound for these gigs, and I've seen them at shows, watched=20 > 'em from the backyard listening to the radio, and they all=20 > seemed very 'loosely' based on the rythm of the music, at=20 > very best. A lot of this can be attributed to the fact that=20 > sound and light travel at different speeds, but even allowing=20 > for that, 'eh' was the best marks I've ever given a=20 > synchronize display. Not that the fireworks weren't=20 > beautiful, though. Yep, that includes this weekend in NY=20 > synchronized with the NY Phil. The Macy's display was=20 > wonderful, and the music was excellent (although, who can get=20 > enough of the Sousa Standards played by a philharmonic=20 > orchestra?!?) but the timing did nothing for me.=20 > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ >=20 > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. =20 > Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... >=20 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706114841.029e9ea8 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:52:14 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks In-Reply-To: References: At 11:43 AM 7/6/2005, you wrote: >It has gotten to the point that some fireworks companies build in an >electronic time delay for exploding the shell rather then depending on a >simple time delay fuse that is lit by the lift charge. > >If you want to see and hear it done right plan a visit to Disney. Of course Disney quit using the chips and pretty much just uses standard shells with the lift charge removed (they use air canons to fire the shells). An e-match is taped directly to the time fuse. When the computer knows the air valve is open AND the shell has started to move, then it fires the e-match. No low bursts, no smoke, no flowerpots. They test hundreds of shells in the desert to get the timing right. That's known as having a budget. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: Merchant accounts? Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:46:16 -0500 Organization: Plaza Theatre In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Any of you out there that deal with selling/services that accept plastic able to recommend a Merchant Account provider? Preferably low fees and good customer service - and one familiar w/ the theatre industry would be nice. Thanks! Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2522.69.162.0.57.1120676186.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Snow in a low room From: usctd [at] columbia.sc I'm also thinking about using several Chauvet snow > machines and just placing them around the room to get the full coverage That's a huge amount of space for such little height! I have tried using the Chauvet machines, but they are just too loud for my taste. Worse than a fogger. If you are planing on renting or buying these, make sure you find out how loud the machines you are geting are. Assuming that your space is fairly intimate, you won't be able to do much scene work while these things are running. -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:00:42 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks Message-id: <42CC2A5A.C74D594D [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Jerry Durand wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > They test hundreds of shells in the desert to get the timing right. That's > known as having a budget. Or, that's known as having no budget. "Just get it done, whatever it costs." Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Subject: LD/ME Help Needed ASAP! Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:17:39 -0400 Message-ID: <56439B09A4ADDC46876BDFF2BBD35DF0061F2F6B [at] ex1.capecod.edu> From: "Hofmann, Christopher" =20 The Cape Cod Melody Tent is looking for an experienced Lighting Director/Designer to finish out their summer season. They're loosing their current LD sometime in the next week. 48k of conventional units/ 8 Mac 550s/ Whole Hog - some "grid monkey" work as well. One day road shows made up of mostly B-list acts. Anyone in the area who might be available to help can contact the Tent or me directly. http://www.melodytent.com/ Christopher Hofmann Technical Director Cape Cod Community College 2240 Iyanough Road West Barnstable, MA 02668 508.362.2131 ext. 4356 voice 508.375.4113 fax =20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000501c58260$5ac4ded0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: LD/ME Help Needed ASAP! Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:24:39 -0700 > One day road > shows made up of mostly B-list acts. Liza Minnelli will be so disappointed to hear she's now considered a 'B-list act.' :) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Subject: RE: LD/ME Help Needed ASAP! Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:27:10 -0400 Message-ID: <56439B09A4ADDC46876BDFF2BBD35DF0061F2F6C [at] ex1.capecod.edu> From: "Hofmann, Christopher" >=20 > Liza Minnelli will be so disappointed to hear she's now=20 > considered a 'B-list act.' =20 I said "mostly"....=20 ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <15b.5442e5bc.2ffd8b87 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:31:19 EDT Subject: Re: LD/ME Help Needed ASAP! In a message dated 7/6/05 3:29:11 PM, chofmann [at] capecod.edu writes: << > > Liza Minnelli will be so disappointed to hear she's now > considered a 'B-list act.' I said "mostly".... >> I hear it depends on what night you catch her as to if she is "A" list or "B" list quality, , , very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42CC32DF.FD03D356 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:37:04 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? References: Steve Jones wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Any of you out there that deal with selling/services that accept plastic > able to recommend a Merchant Account provider? Preferably low fees and good > customer service - and one familiar w/ the theatre industry would be nice. > > Thanks! > > Steve A non-profit group I'm involved with uses a company called Miva. I'm more involved in the hardware side, keeping up the swipe boxes, and until we recently switched over to wireless boxes, dealing with phone and programming issues. Are you going to be using these for online sales, telephone sales, and or in-person sales? What is your anticipated dollar volume per year? Are your transactions based around one or two events per year, or spread more or less evenly in time? Lots of variables that are not obvious that can bite you in the butt. We have had the merchant account for over ten years, and we had an issue bite us in the butt last year because we hadn't noticed some of the fine print in the agreement. Do your research. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706123329.02953130 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:35:33 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? In-Reply-To: References: At 11:46 AM 7/6/2005, you wrote: >Any of you out there that deal with selling/services that accept plastic >able to recommend a Merchant Account provider? Preferably low fees and good >customer service - and one familiar w/ the theatre industry would be nice. We just use PayPal and also have YowCow (but that hasn't been popular). There's a rumor that Google is getting into the online merchant account service, too. If you have reasonable volume, join Costco as an Executive Member and use their merchant services. That way you can also get your snacks in the extra large size. :) ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: RE: Slowing down a mirror ball Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:38:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050706193804.JCA25800.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> > Does anybody have any ideas on how to slow down a mirror > ball. I already tried running it on a dimmer and a Variac. I > have thought of replacing the motor with a variable speed > motor but don't know where to find one. It sounds like your mirror ball uses a synchronous ac motor. The speed of this motor is derived from the frequency of ac power (hence someone else's suggestions of using a power amp with a variable frequency oscillator). A dimmer or variac reduces the energy applied to the motor, but doesn't change the frequency. When the power level drops too low, the motor won't work properly. You need to use a motor that is easier to control. In my opinion, a good choice would be a small 90VDC motor. You can run it from 120VAC rectified with a diode. You can control it's speed with a regular lamp dimmer before the diode. If you want to get more sophisticated, you can control it with a pulse-width-modulation power driver. In all cases, speed control is fairly linear and controllable. Perhaps a local surplus supplier can find something that will work. In general, you can use a smaller DC motor than the ac synchronous motor you are replacing, because the ac motor is less efficient. If you can only find 12V or 24V dc motors, you'll have to use a transformer to step down your supply voltage. Use a highly over-rated transformer if you plan to put a dimmer on the 120V side -- a chopped wave will cause lower efficiency and higher temperatures in the transformer, and may lead to premature failure. Good luck! Jim www.theatrewireless.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:22:26 -0400 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks In-Reply-To: References: Here is a news story, with video, of a town fireworks display gone very wrong. According to the story, sparks from a lit fuse fell onto fireworks on the ground, setting them all off at once. http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=3D81427 Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706133120.029517c8 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:36:50 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks In-Reply-To: References: At 01:22 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote: >Here is a news story, with video, of a town fireworks display gone >very wrong. According to the story, sparks from a lit fuse fell onto >fireworks on the ground, setting them all off at once. > >http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=81427 > >Brian Munroe >bpmunroe [at] gmail.com Sounds like a reload show that didn't use a "ready box". Reload shows are strongly discouraged, but if you do one, you MUST use a "ready box" or this WILL happen. === A reload show is where you put fresh shells into used mortars during the show. This saves on the number of mortars you need, but you are handling live shells with sparks falling all around you. There are LOT of sparks, that's why I'm covered in Nomex from head to toe when hand-firing. A ready box is a plywood box that you keep the fresh shells in. The lid must fall closed when you let go and must keep out sparks. You never remove more than one shell at a time from the box. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:01:00 GMT Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks Message-Id: <20050706.140128.21088.357748 [at] webmail12.lax.untd.com> The pyrotechnics timing at the Hollywood Bowl has always been VERY precise. I have analyzed the synchronization of the attack of the appropriate played note and overlayed the audio waveform on a vectorscope containing the video information. It is virtually always in the same vitc or SMTPE timecode frame. /s/ Richard >If the show is synchronized to music, it will be electrically fired, I have *never* seen this gag work well. Chris "Chris" Babbie ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Pipe threaders Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:18:11 -0400 > My experience with the larger pipe threaders are that you > definitely get what you pay for. I'll second that. I have the Harbor Freight Tools kit. As stated it will work fine for fixing threads and light duty but mine broke teeth after about the third set of new threads. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <110.4d39135b.2ffdafcd [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:06:05 EDT Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks In a message dated 06/07/05 21:23:06 GMT Daylight Time, bpmunroe [at] gmail.com writes: > Here is a news story, with video, of a town fireworks display gone > very wrong. According to the story, sparks from a lit fuse fell onto > fireworks on the ground, setting them all off at once. Scarcely news, since it happened some years ago. But our local 'big' town, in France, once did a big fireworks show, on 14th July. They did it on the bank of the river. Unfortunately, they were using what were then rather ubreliable Chinese fireworks. They were all done by the local fire brigade, from one bank of the river. They dropped two in the town hall car park, and blew somebodies' front bumper (fender) off! Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:48:38 -0400 From: "Rob Carovillano" Subject: Lamp Question Message-id: <000401c5827c$d9ee35f0$a8a44481 [at] rcarovil> References: I was going through our lamp inventory and I came across a question I couldn't figure out. What is the difference between a HX600 and HX 601? They both say they are 115v/575w and both have the same base. One seems to have a longer filament. Rob Carovillano Technical Director Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University 610-660-1044 rcarovil [at] sju.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:01:17 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Jerry Durand wrote: > We just use PayPal and also have YowCow (but that hasn't been popular). We use PayPal also and their European store is pretty new and has some serious teething problems but has to be recommended for relatively low fees and pretty good service. Communicating with them when their automated problem reporting system doesn't actually produce the correct responses is horrible but not bad otherwise. > If you have reasonable volume, join Costco as an Executive Member and use > their merchant services. That way you can also get your snacks in the extra > large size. :) Now there's an interesting idea... I'll have to see if they've got a Euro setup yet... Charlie ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:11:02 -0600 From: John Vink Reply-To: John Vink Subject: Re: Lamp Question In-Reply-To: References: I believe the HX-600 is 3200K and rated for 300 hours while the HX-601 is 3050K and is rated for 1500 hours average life. John On 7/6/05, Rob Carovillano wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > I was going through our lamp inventory and I came across a question I > couldn't figure out. What is the difference between a HX600 and HX 601? > They both say they are 115v/575w and both have the same base. One seems = to > have a longer filament. >=20 > Rob Carovillano > Technical Director > Bluett Theatre > Saint Joseph's University > 610-660-1044 > rcarovil [at] sju.edu >=20 > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <03fe01c58285$471fe120$6401a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" References: Subject: Re: dichroic filter homemade unit Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:48:58 -0700 The idea is to have a gel string that will virtually last forever, also if the coating can be gradiated the entire length of the string, the smoothness and quality of the fade will be better. It's a long shot, but worth researching. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:33 AM Subject: dichroic filter homemade unit > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Well, the only thing i am thinking is that in my experience the place where > the dichroic filters really 'shine' is in the blue range especially with lamps > that have a significant uv output. I am not sure you will gain much by trying > to make a dichroic mixing system using 'conventional' fixtures. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/2005 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <031c01c58286$0c1553c0$0400a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" Subject: Re: looking for a special paint roller cleaner Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:54:25 -0400 To get on my economic soap box again, I'm not sure how cleaning rollers with or without the "roller thing-a-ma-bob" either saves time or is neater than just throwing them away. At my place there are only so many person-hours available each week. All tasks must be accomplished on schedule. No added labor (or overtime) may be purchased. Anything that eats up time will cause us to miss schedule. So I buy more rollers instead. Alf [Is it a cleaner for special rollers? Or is it cleaner for rollers of special paint? Or a special cleaner? What makes it special? Can you purchase an ordinary cleaner?] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <621d2eb00507061703195e9324 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:03:38 -0400 From: Joseph Champelli Reply-To: Joseph Champelli Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks In-Reply-To: References: Or Disney Annaheim. On 7/6/05, Rob Carovillano wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > > I have *never* seen this gag work well. Ever. I've done sound for the= se > > gigs, and I've seen them at shows, watched 'em from the backyard listen= ing > > to the radio, and they all seemed very 'loosely' based on the rythm of = the > > music, at very best. >=20 > Take a trip to Disney in florida sometime. >=20 > Rob Carovillano > Technical Director - Bluett Theatre > Saint Joseph's University > (610) 660-1044 > rcarovillano [at] verizon.net >=20 >=20 --=20 Joseph Champelli University of Tennessee Entertainment Technology 865.974.7069 office=20 702.429.5859 cell=20 775.206.6078 fax champelli [at] knology.net - home =20 jchampel [at] utk.edu - office ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:22:04 -0400 From: "Rob Carovillano" Subject: McFeelys Screws Message-id: <000201c58289$e77a75a0$6401a8c0 [at] desktop> References: I am switching to square drive. Do you all pretty much use the #8 unplated for general purpose? http://www.mcfeelys.com/subcat.asp?subcat=20.1.5.7.3 Rob Carovillano Technical Director - Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University (610) 660-1044 rcarovillano [at] verizon.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42CC7B99.4010303 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:47:21 -0500 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? References: In-Reply-To: Dale, So what was the issue that bit you in the but? I ask so that I may be on the look out. > Lots of variables that >are not obvious that can bite you in the butt. > We have had the merchant account for over ten years, and we >had an issue bite us in the butt last year because we hadn't noticed >some of the fine print in the agreement. Do your research. > > > -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Looking for a Star Drop Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:00:21 -0400 Message-ID: <993D0A40B5754441B09BA4FA2A629585341DFC [at] stage.otc.olneytheatre.org> From: "Dirk Van Pernis" Main Light in Wilmington, Delaware sells and rents. I want to say the Rose Brand will rent, too. Dirk Van Pernis Master Electrician Olney Theatre Center for the Arts 301.924.4485 x 126 301.924.2654 fax =20 2001 Olney-Sandy Spring Road Olney, MD 20832 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Chris Fretts Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 5:58 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Looking for a Star Drop For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I am looking for a star drop for the first show of our upcoming season. The trick is that I don't have a fly house so this unit ideally is two panels approx. 20'x20' that track open and closed. So, the curtain and its LED/Fiber Optics/Light sources must be able to track open and closed without becoming a Boy Scout's nightmare. I could work with a single panel approx. 40'w 20'h if that is all that can be found.=20 =20 Hopefully I can find one out there that I could rent from someone but I may consider investing in one to call our very own....or it may just be a cloudy night for that scene instead. I would need the star drop from around Aug. 29-Oct. 15. If anyone has a drop or knows of one please contact me directly or respond back to the list Thanks, Chris Fretts Technical Director Indiana Repertory Theatre ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <6fc43e44ab75d381abaab7ddfe6ad2d4 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: McFeelys Screws Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:19:08 -0400 > Do you all pretty much use the #8 unplated for general purpose? I have been using the Black Oxide #8 but they don't come in 3". Somehow I have missed the unplated version (cheaper btw). I think I try switching over on my next order. I have been very happy with McFeelys and the square drive in the high school setting. I have another year or two of transition where we have to keep a phillips and square bit on each drill. I have also found the super wide head screws very handy at times. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <28ea3a1ad2c35cc8b696c6f3d507145b [at] email.arizona.edu> Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:30:05 -0700 At the University, we use a purchasing card system to buy most everything up to $1000.00 We have been warned by the p-card people that using Pay-pal, or any other 3rd party systems will result in a immediate thumping by the bookkeeper, purchasing agent, and the attorney general. Just a thought for anyone wanting to deal with a University or a large corporation. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Charlie Richmond wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Jerry Durand wrote: > >> We just use PayPal and also have YowCow (but that hasn't been >> popular). > > We use PayPal also and their European store is pretty new and has some > serious teething problems but has to be recommended for relatively low > fees and pretty good service. Communicating with them when their > automated problem reporting system doesn't actually produce the > correct responses is horrible but not bad otherwise. > >> If you have reasonable volume, join Costco as an Executive Member and >> use their merchant services. That way you can also get your snacks >> in the extra >> large size. :) > > Now there's an interesting idea... I'll have to see if they've got a > Euro setup yet... > > Charlie ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Merchant accounts? Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:48:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: "James, Brian" This an excellent point. We have the same issues with the University = here that Mark indicated. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Mark O'Brien Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:30 PM To: Stagecraft Cc: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- At the University, we use a purchasing card system to buy most=20 everything up to $1000.00 We have been warned by the p-card people=20 that using Pay-pal, or any other 3rd party systems will result in a=20 immediate thumping by the bookkeeper, purchasing agent, and the=20 attorney general. Just a thought for anyone wanting to deal with a=20 University or a large corporation. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Charlie Richmond wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Jerry Durand wrote: > >> We just use PayPal and also have YowCow (but that hasn't been=20 >> popular). > > We use PayPal also and their European store is pretty new and has some = > serious teething problems but has to be recommended for relatively low = > fees and pretty good service. Communicating with them when their=20 > automated problem reporting system doesn't actually produce the=20 > correct responses is horrible but not bad otherwise. > >> If you have reasonable volume, join Costco as an Executive Member and = >> use their merchant services. That way you can also get your snacks=20 >> in the extra >> large size. :) > > Now there's an interesting idea... I'll have to see if they've got a=20 > Euro setup yet... > > Charlie ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7D6FB56C-C47A-439D-A339-B14F5353DC8F [at] interstellar.com> From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:05:39 -0700 On Jul 6, 2005, at 8:30 PM, Mark O'Brien wrote: > At the University, we use a purchasing card system to buy most > everything up to $1000.00 We have been warned by the p-card people > that using Pay-pal, or any other 3rd party systems will result in a > immediate thumping by the bookkeeper, purchasing agent, and the > attorney general. Just a thought for anyone wanting to deal with > a University or a large corporation. We ran into that some time back with American Express. They claim it's because they can't tell if the purchase is authorized by the corporation. Now, if you have a personal card or a regular corporate card, they are happy for you to use it with PayPal, etc. I can't really see how that makes any difference, other than I'm not paying them the large monthly fees we used to as a merchant. My response is Visa/MasterCard work fine as well as checks. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002d01c582a8$8be58a80$6601a8c0 [at] cz1lbfinkbrlun> From: "Chad Croteau" References: Subject: Re: Snow in a low room Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:01:24 -0400 Hi Kevin! The LeMaitre and Chauvet snow machines are excellent options, provided noise isn't an issue. These machines normally sound like a shop vacuum while they're running, unless you get the quiet machines, which are a lot better, but still audible. That being said... I saw once a snow machine that was basically an 8" diameter pipe with 1/2" holes cut in it randomly. It was mounted in a kind of suspended roller system and equipped with a low rpm motor. The pipe was filled with snow, and end caps put on both ends. On cue, the motor was powered, the pipe rotated, and shredded plastic snow fell through the holes. Looked pretty good, and was inaudible. If you want more details, feel free to contact me. Hope this helps, Chad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Linzey" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:22 PM Subject: Snow in a low room > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > I am looking for some recommendations for making snow form a height of about > 12ft. I need to cover about a 30'x30' area. > My first thoughts were to use a pair of Le Maitre machines and a few fans to > blow the snow around. I'm also thinking about using several Chauvet snow > machines and just placing them around the room to get the full coverage. > > If you have tried it I'd like to hear what worked, or what didn't. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004701c582ab$6be7d0a0$0200a8c0 [at] om.cox.net> From: "John Gibilisco" References: Subject: Re: still more dichroic filters Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:22:00 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- From: > Well, the only thing i am thinking is that in my experience the place where > the dichroic filters really 'shine' is in the blue range especially with lamps > that have a significant uv output. I am not sure you will gain much by trying > to make a dichroic mixing system using 'conventional' fixtures. In addition to the "Color Merge" there is another dichroic color mixing system for conventional that is made specifically for a Source 4. Ocean Optics out of Dunedin Florida has new product called the SeaChanger. Ocean Optics manufactures the dichroic glass for the Vari LiteVL 2 and 3 thousands. The SeaChanger model we are currently using has 4 gradated color wheels. Cyan, Magenta, Amber and Extreme Magenta. I wish it had and Extreme Blue as well. Even so, they are quite nice. Smooth mixing, great colors, dead quiet and built well. Check them out at: http://oceanoptics.com/Products/seachanger.asp John Gibilisco Omaha Playhouse ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:33:47 -0700 That is true on your end, however, when I bought something from you, I had to use my personal Visa, If it were for something more expensive, I may well have just shopped elsewhere, rather than gong through the reimbursement process on my end. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Jul 6, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Jerry Durand wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > On Jul 6, 2005, at 8:30 PM, Mark O'Brien wrote: > >> At the University, we use a purchasing card system to buy most >> everything up to $1000.00 We have been warned by the p-card people >> that using Pay-pal, or any other 3rd party systems will result in a >> immediate thumping by the bookkeeper, purchasing agent, and the >> attorney general. Just a thought for anyone wanting to deal with a >> University or a large corporation. > > We ran into that some time back with American Express. They claim > it's because they can't tell if the purchase is authorized by the > corporation. Now, if you have a personal card or a regular corporate > card, they are happy for you to use it with PayPal, etc. I can't > really see how that makes any difference, other than I'm not paying > them the large monthly fees we used to as a merchant. My response is > Visa/MasterCard work fine as well as checks. > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <045b01c582af$db791380$6401a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" References: Subject: Re: still more dichroic filters Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:53:46 -0700 Same issue with the Color Merge. What I am looking to do is create a mixing system for PAR cans and the like, that is dichroic. Again, a long shot. Thanks guys. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gibilisco" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:22 PM Subject: Re: still more dichroic filters > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > > Well, the only thing i am thinking is that in my experience the place > where > > the dichroic filters really 'shine' is in the blue range especially with > lamps > > that have a significant uv output. I am not sure you will gain much by > trying > > to make a dichroic mixing system using 'conventional' fixtures. > > In addition to the "Color Merge" there is another dichroic color mixing > system for conventional that is made specifically for a Source 4. > > Ocean Optics out of Dunedin Florida has new product called the SeaChanger. > Ocean Optics manufactures the dichroic glass for the Vari LiteVL 2 and 3 > thousands. The SeaChanger model we are currently using has 4 gradated color > wheels. Cyan, Magenta, Amber and Extreme Magenta. I wish it had and Extreme > Blue as well. Even so, they are quite nice. Smooth mixing, great colors, > dead quiet and built well. Check them out at: > > http://oceanoptics.com/Products/seachanger.asp > > John Gibilisco > Omaha Playhouse > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/2005 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2182.64.28.50.179.1120712856.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Where does the responsibility lie? From: "Bill Nelson" So this guy wasn't an emergency body to do what he could, but a full time replacement? That is scary. > Be careful where you point the blame gun. If someone is punished because > of personal and/or political reasons, and, at least in thier mind, they > were actually covering someone else and working thier *HONK* off, you've > just alienated the *HONK* out of him, if you haven't lost him. You've > definitely taught him that he shouldn't try to bail you out of a serious > jam again. I agree. No matter where the actual responsibility may lie - ALL involved should accept part of the responsibility/blame when something goes wrong. Of course, it helps if you have a team where everyone is willing to help the rest and also listen to suggestions - rather than everyone jealously guarding their own little fiefdoms as if any intrusion was a mortal assault on their character and capabilities. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2188.64.28.50.179.1120713386.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks From: "Bill Nelson" >>If the show is synchronized to music, it will be electrically fired, > > I have *never* seen this gag work well. Ever. I've done sound for these > gigs, and I've seen them at shows, watched 'em from the backyard listening > to the radio, and they all seemed very 'loosely' based on the rythm of the > music, at very best. A lot of this can be attributed to the fact that > sound > and light travel at different speeds, but even allowing for that, 'eh' was > the best marks I've ever given a synchronize display. . . . If you go by the sound, there certainly problems. Another problem is that the chemical fuses are not precise enough. I have not seen a Disney World show, but they were working on a pneumatic system with electronic timing for the burst. This would give at least the necessary precision to the light flashes. Of course, it would do nothing about the delayed sound. A system that can provide precise effects activation is Bill Ofca's "No Match" system using shock tube and precision delays. But it still does not correct the variable shell delay problem. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2193.64.28.50.179.1120713824.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Dichoric Sheets (High End Color Merge) From: "Bill Nelson" > Great product, however, it only works with Source 4 fixtures. I am hoping > to put together a device that would work in any fixture. I believe Morpheus has a dichro color changer that will fit everything from a PAR64 on down. Check out www.morpheuslights.com Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42CCD06D.1B6621F3 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:49:17 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? References: Richard Bakos wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Dale, > > So what was the issue that bit you in the but? > I ask so that I may be on the look out. We ran a convention that was quite a bit larger than our normal annual convention. We found out that there was an upper limit on how much money could be processed in a calendar month. So we had to call our card account rep on a saturday to get an increase on the limit. This, of course, had a service fee attached to it. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2280.64.28.50.179.1120722413.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OT-Fireworks From: "Bill Nelson" > Sounds like a reload show that didn't use a "ready box". Reload shows are > strongly discouraged, but if you do one, you MUST use a "ready box" or > this WILL happen. Or an insufficient ready box. We used to have a head pyro who felt that a cardboard box with a piece of canvas over it was sufficient. I refused to work those shows. If there were only three people on the line, that is not enough people for doing a reload show. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2290.64.28.50.179.1120723350.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: dichroic filter homemade unit From: "Bill Nelson" > The idea is to have a gel string that will virtually last forever, also if > the coating can be gradiated the entire length of the string, the > smoothness and quality of the fade will be better. It's a long shot, but > worth researching. Unless you are using only one gel string per fixture, the cost is going to be rather prohibitive. Three gel string fixtures are very expensive - although Morpheus makes them. If you want dichro, look at the newest Morpheus changer, which I believe uses three wheels. You get "unlimited" color choices and they even provide reference charts for the DMX settings needed to "duplicate" popular gel filters. The color changes can be bumped, rather than having to do them in blackout. Wish our local theatre could afford a few. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2297.64.28.50.179.1120724329.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? From: "Bill Nelson" > At the University, we use a purchasing card system to buy most > everything up to $1000.00 We have been warned by the p-card people > that using Pay-pal, or any other 3rd party systems will result in a > immediate thumping by the bookkeeper, purchasing agent, and the > attorney general. Just a thought for anyone wanting to deal with a > University or a large corporation. Are you sure that just isn't the purchasing card people attempting to protect their turf? Nor should it be the purchasing agent's business how you fund your purchases. Before anyone went to Paypal, I WOULD check with the accountant (not the bookkeeper) and possibly your state attorney general. But Paypal is legal in all 50 states, as well as a number of foreign countries. But Paypal is NOT a credit or deferred payment system. You need to have a credit card, bank account or cash deposit with Paypal to make purchases. There is no Paypal charge to the customer - the merchant pays all fees. The disadvantages are that not all credit cards are accepted and not all merchants accept Paypal. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:12:37 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Mark O'Brien wrote: > to $1000.00 We have been warned by the p-card people that using Pay-pal, or > any other 3rd party systems will result in a immediate thumping by the > bookkeeper, purchasing agent, and the attorney general. Just a thought for > anyone wanting to deal with a University or a large corporation. Is this a common thing? What is the rationale? I've never had any complaints about PayPal and many customers are already users, have a PayPal cash account ant even have funds in it waiting to be spent! ;-) Charlie ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2541.64.28.50.179.1120729379.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 02:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: still more dichroic filters From: "Bill Nelson" > Ocean Optics out of Dunedin Florida has new product called the SeaChanger. > Ocean Optics manufactures the dichroic glass for the Vari LiteVL 2 and 3 > thousands. The SeaChanger model we are currently using has 4 gradated > color wheels. Cyan, Magenta, Amber and Extreme Magenta. I wish it had and > Extreme Blue as well. Even so, they are quite nice. Smooth mixing, great > colors, dead quiet and built well. Amber? Why would you need "Extreme Blue"? The extreme magenta should give you the deeper blues and reds. What is the price of the beasts? Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:51:34 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) Subject: Re: Merchant accounts? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Charlie Richmond wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Mark O'Brien wrote: > >> to $1000.00 We have been warned by the p-card people that using Pay-pal, >> or any other 3rd party systems will result in a immediate thumping by the >> bookkeeper, purchasing agent, and the attorney general. Just a thought >> for anyone wanting to deal with a University or a large corporation. > > Is this a common thing? What is the rationale? I've never had any > complaints about PayPal and many customers are already users, have a PayPal > cash account and even have funds in it waiting to be spent! ;-) I should have read the rest of the thread as usual, and clarified that most Universities and large corporations usually make their departments go through a purchase order process anyway so that's almost always the way we deal with those kinds of purchases. PayPay/credit card sales are almost exclusively performed by individuals and small companies with more flexibility. > > Charlie > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #450 *****************************