Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 23665532; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 03:00:35 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #456 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 03:00:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #456 1. Flamability info by "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" 2. Re: large air tank needed by Jerry Durand 3. Re[2]: large air tank needed by "Frank E. Merrill" 4. Merchant account answer from Amex by Jerry Durand 5. Popcorn machines.. by "Steve Jones" 6. Re: Popcorn machines.. by IAEG [at] aol.com 7. Re: Popcorn machines.. by Jerry Durand 8. Re: Popcorn machines.. by "Steve Jones" 9. Re: Popcorn machines.. by Steve Larson 10. Re: Slowing down a mirror ball by Paul Puppo 11. Scrim too high by "Brendan Bartholomew" 12. Re: Scrim too high by "Tony Deeming" 13. Re: Scrim too high by Stephen Litterst 14. Re: Scrim too high by "Frank E. Merrill" 15. Re: Scrim too high by Mike Brubaker 16. Re: Scrim too high by IAEG [at] aol.com 17. Re: Scrim too high by "Michael Diederich" 18. Re: Scrim too high by Mike Brubaker 19. Re: Slowing down a mirror ball by "Laura McMeley" 20. Re: Slowing down a mirror ball by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 21. Re: Slowing down a mirror ball by "Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center" 22. Re: Slowing down a mirror ball by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 23. Re: Slowing down a mirror ball by Charlie Richmond 24. Spackle by Shell Dalzell 25. Re: large air tank needed by Dale Farmer 26. Re: Flamability info by Dale Farmer 27. Re: Scrim too high by Barney Simon 28. Re: Scrim too high by "Jon Ares" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: From: "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" Subject: Flamability info Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:20:56 -0400 Greetings. I am starting on a show for production in a very strict fire code enforcement locality and am looking at use of a material not traditionally used in theatre. Although I know about the standard match test for sustained flames I am wondering if anyone (Doom perhaps) might have some guidance on translation of MSDS data to help in determining suitability. Ignition temp and a few other such measures are given on MSDSs but I do not know what kind of numbers to look for. Can anyone provide any help here. RichardF ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050712075407.029e0038 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:57:36 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: large air tank needed In-Reply-To: References:

At 01:24 AM 7/12/2005, you wrote: >Yes, it is relatively incompressible. That is why it is used for pressure >testing tanks. It is called hydrostatic testing. A little more explanation... A tank filled with air will explode throwing sharp pieces at you if it cracks. A tank filled with water will squirt a little water out the crack and the pressure will almost instantly drop to zero since the pressure was only maintained by stretching the tank, not by compressing the air. For high pressure testing, you put the tank IN water and fill it with water, that way there's no chance of anything flying anywhere or high-pressure water streams cutting you (water is used to cut steel very effectively). ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:20:17 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1452023368.20050712102017 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Re[2]: large air tank needed In-Reply-To: References:

Howdy ! Tuesday, July 12, 2005, Jerry Durand wrote: > ...water is used to cut steel very effectively. Okay. Lest a whole lot of you go out and sell your oxyacetylene cutting outfit on Ebay in favor of a garden hose with attitude, Jerry is describing a VERY high pressure narrow water jet that carries carborundum powder to do the cutting. It IS cool though, if you'll pardon the pun.... Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050712082500.03e59928 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:25:08 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Merchant account answer from Amex Here's the answer they sent me: >Dear Gerald J. Durand: > >Thank you for contacting OPEN: The Small Business Network(SM). > >PayPal.com, Bidpay, and HSBC Yahoo Paydirect are Merchants that provide a >service for making person-to-person payments via the Internet. > >All American Express card products are eligible for use with these merchants. > >For our charge card products, including Corporate Card accounts, certain >restrictions have been implemented for transactions made through >Person-to-Person Merchants. These restrictions limit the total dollar >amount of transactions, per Cardmember, per 30-day period, that American >Express will authorize at Merchants in the person-to-person online >payments industry. > >These restrictions have been implemented by American Express, not by the >Merchants. > >In most cases, declined charges for these transactions are not due to the >person-to-person restrictions, but are caused by account issues not >related to these merchants. > >Lending products are not subject to Person-to-Person transaction limits. > >I hope this information has been helpful. > >Sincerely, > >N. Pollock >Email Servicing Team >OPEN: The Small Business Network ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: Popcorn machines.. Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:19:50 -0500 Organization: Plaza Theatre In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Anybody have a popcorn machine in their theatre used for concessions? Our theatre now shows movies and we rent one when needed, but are looking to purchase. Can anyone make a brand / model recommendation? We are looking at a 14-16 oz machine. Thanks! Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.org ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1d9.4038b5c0.30053ce8 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:34:00 EDT Subject: Re: Popcorn machines.. In a message dated 7/12/05 11:29:48 AM, steve.jones [at] glasgowplazatheatre.org writes: << Can anyone make a brand / model recommendation? We are looking at a 14-16 oz machine. >> on the size / scale that you are looking for, , , it's a SAM'S CLUB / COSTCO / B J'S moment, machine ( brand new about $ 550 + / - ) and all the supplies as well pay for itself in no time, Lots of places will have large bags of purchased Pre Popped corn stashed away for "peak" times when the machine can't keep up, , and some place sell MOSTLY corn that they buy pre popped, but the AROMA of the machine is what is responsible for the sale as much as anything, , so the machine is needed regardless ! if you want a larger machine, , first check and see if there is a used resturant equipment supplier in your area before purchasig a new one very best, Keith ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050712085457.029ab160 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:59:13 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Popcorn machines.. In-Reply-To: References: At 08:34 AM 7/12/2005, you wrote: >Fon the size / scale that you are looking for, , , it's a SAM'S CLUB / >COSTCO / B J'S moment, Also Smart & Final. >Lots of places will have large bags of purchased Pre Popped corn stashed away >for "peak" times when the machine can't keep up, , and some place sell >MOSTLY corn that they buy pre popped, >but the AROMA of the machine is what is responsible for the sale as much as >anything, , so the machine is needed regardless ! When I worked in a movie theater (you know, the places that DON'T have live actors)* we had a big enough machine to keep up and often popped up huge bags in the morning before opening that we sold to other stores in the shopping center we were in. --- * Our 550 seat theater actually had a small proscenium stage and we DID from time to time have live actors, mayors speaking, bands, etc. That when I fist got to meet "famous people" and also see how nervous TV personalities are before going on stage. This was back in the mid 1970's. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: RE: Popcorn machines.. Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:08:47 -0500 Organization: Plaza Theatre In-Reply-To: Message-ID: All the SAMS, COSTCO, BJ'S machines are 6oz or 8oz. Not large enough. Plus we don't have any of those vendors near us. Thanks! Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf > Of IAEG [at] aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:34 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Popcorn machines.. > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > In a message dated 7/12/05 11:29:48 AM, > steve.jones [at] glasgowplazatheatre.org > writes: > > << Can anyone make a brand / model recommendation? > > We are looking at a 14-16 oz machine. >> > > > > on the size / scale that you are looking for, , , it's a > SAM'S CLUB / COSTCO / B J'S moment, > > machine ( brand new about $ 550 + / - ) and all the supplies as well > > pay for itself in no time, > > Lots of places will have large bags of purchased Pre Popped > corn stashed away > for "peak" times when the machine can't keep up, , and some > place sell > MOSTLY corn that they buy pre popped, > but the AROMA of the machine is what is responsible for the > sale as much as anything, , so the machine is needed regardless ! > > if you want a larger machine, , first check and see if there > is a used resturant equipment supplier in your area before > purchasig a new one > > very best, > > Keith > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:19:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Popcorn machines.. From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: http://www.popcornsupply.com/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=53 will show you some larger machines. We have a 6 oz Sixty Special Model 2085. Works great for a crowd of 244. We give the popcorn away free and generally fill the cardboard containers only 1/2 full. No drinks or treats in the theatre proper. Must consume during intermission or before the show. Steve > From: "Steve Jones" > Organization: Plaza Theatre > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:19:50 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Popcorn machines.. > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Anybody have a popcorn machine in their theatre used for concessions? > > Our theatre now shows movies and we rent one when needed, but are looking to > purchase. Can anyone make a brand / model recommendation? > > We are looking at a 14-16 oz machine. > > Thanks! > > Steve > > ************************************* > Steve Jones, Director > Plaza Theatre > 115 E. Main Street > Glasgow, KY 42141 > Voice: (270) 361-2101 > Fax: (270) 651-2511 > http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.org > > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3998154b0507121034714cc21d [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:34:54 -0700 From: Paul Puppo Reply-To: Paul Puppo Subject: Re: Slowing down a mirror ball In-Reply-To: References: How about trying a fan speed control switch from the home improvment store? On 7/6/05, Laura McMeley wrote: > Does anybody have any ideas on how to slow down a mirror ball.=20 Paul Puppo Illumineering www.Nifty-Gadgets.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200507121751.j6CHpFGv008866 [at] moose.scu.k12.ca.us> From: "Brendan Bartholomew" Subject: Scrim too high Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:59:52 -0700 I had to order a black scrim (60' w x 30' h) for my new space based on the construction drawings. Now that we've taken it out of the box and hung it we've discovered that there are 4' to 6' that won't hide when flown all the way out. Does anyone have a clever idea on how to fix this? Thanks, Brendan Bartholomew Technical Director/Production Manager Mission City Center for the Performing Arts Phone: 408 423 2415 x2598 Fax: 408 423 2490 ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: RE: Scrim too high Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:08:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Brendan > Bartholomew > Sent: 12 July 2005 19:00 > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Scrim too high > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I had to order a black scrim (60' w x 30' h) for my new space based on > the construction drawings. Now that we've taken it out of the box and > hung it we've discovered that there are 4' to 6' that won't hide when > flown all the way out. Does anyone have a clever idea on how to fix > this? Thanks, > > Brendan Bartholomew > Technical Director/Production Manager > Mission City Center for the Performing Arts > Phone: 408 423 2415 x2598 > Fax: 408 423 2490 > > > First question - is it just too long? Can you gather the top if so? Could be a problem with a gauze, but what MIGHT work is to use the barrel from another line (or maybe use a length of electrical conduit) and gather the excess at the top, and sandwich it between the two barrels, keeping the flat integrity of the gauze. Secure the 'extra' barrel to the main cloth bar by use of fishing line threaded thru the gauze itself, maybe. Just thinking aloud, really.... The other option, though this would be visible lines thru the scrim, would be to 'trip' the bottom etc. That is drop 3 or 4 lines down the back of the gauze attached to the bottom pocket, which should have a solid barrel weighting it down. Those lines (should be lightweight) then feed thru pulleys attached to the main cloth bar, and taken up to the fly rail. Once the bar's out, these additional lines are hoisted enough to fold the cloth back on itself, hence taking the 'slack out of the drop. This method's used a lot in houses that don't have full-height grids. TD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:30:46 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Scrim too high Message-id: <42D40C56.2E73C1C2 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Brendan Bartholomew wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > I had to order a black scrim (60' w x 30' h) for my new space based on > the construction drawings. Now that we've taken it out of the box and > hung it we've discovered that there are 4' to 6' that won't hide when > flown all the way out. Does anyone have a clever idea on how to fix > this? If it's literally right out of the box, talk to your vendor about exchanging it. 60' x 30' is a pretty standard size so they'd probably be able to resell it pretty easily. How permanent (or temporary) do you want your solution to be? For a permanent solution, you can have it recut and new webbing & grommets put on. That might be pricey, though. Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:36:46 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1709579749.20050712133646 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Re: Scrim too high In-Reply-To: References: Howdy ! Tuesday, July 12, 2005, Brendan Bartholomew wrote: > we've discovered that there are 4' to 6' that won't hide when flown > all the way out. Does anyone have a clever idea on how to fix this? For many years, the top edge of a scrim or scene drop was clamped between two boards parallel to the stage floor, with one on the downstage side and one on the upstage. The boards were usually clamped together from above, but often were secured with bolts and nuts, penetrating the fabric. With your scrim hanging properly, lower the pipe batten until the scrim is where you'd like the new top to be, then carefully affix pairs of 1x4's to each other, sandwiching the fabric between. Be cautious about drilling holes through the wood where the chips will be forever tangled in the scrim mesh. When completed, lift the boards to the batten and secure with pipe clamps, plumbing strap, duct tape, ty-raps, or whatever seems appropriate to your level of risk-taking.... When you fly the assembly out, the bottom hem will be right where it was supposed to be all along. NEXT time, ask me to make the scrim for you so you can clobber ME if I make it wrong! Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050712134627.03e8a328 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:50:35 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Scrim too high In-Reply-To: References:

The scrim may not be made wrong. What Brendan didn't tell us is whether the total height is needed to use the scrim. If it is, than tripping the bottom is what needs to be done--one approach to that has already been described. Seems to me, though, that you could use Frank's clamping system on the bottom edge, insert eye-bolts into the clamp, and tie that up to the pipe when you needed to fully clear the drape. The function of a scrim is NOT "flown out clear". That's storage when you don't want its function... Mike At 01:36 PM 7/12/2005, Frank E. Merrill wrote: >Tuesday, July 12, 2005, Brendan Bartholomew wrote: > > > we've discovered that there are 4' to 6' that won't hide when flown > > all the way out. Does anyone have a clever idea on how to fix this? > >When you fly the assembly out, the bottom hem will be right where it >was supposed to be all along. > >NEXT time, ask me to make the scrim for you so you can clobber ME if I >make it wrong! ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1c9.2c678267.30056c75 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:56:53 EDT Subject: Re: Scrim too high In a message dated 7/12/05 2:53:38 PM, mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com writes: << The scrim may not be made wrong. >> sounds more like it was "specified wrong" very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Scrim too high Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:18:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Michael Diederich" >>>>>> Now that we've taken it out of the box and=20 hung it we've discovered that there are 4' to 6' that won't hide when=20 flown all the way out. Does anyone have a clever idea on how to fix this?<<<<<<< I had this same problem with a drop that was ordered shortly before I started working at my current position. I had a few ideas, but in the end I just sent it out to have it cut down. Any "fix" you try is going to be a bigger hassle than you want to deal with.=20 My best idea was to take conduit and run it through the pipe pocket. Roll it up to the height I needed and clamping it their with small spring clamps. But every time I needed to take it down I had to pull the conduit and store that, then repeat the process when I put it back up. If you have the money, just get it fixed. I found it hard to want to go through the process for the effect if I could avoid it. I wasn't getting my money out of the scrim either way.=20 Mike Diederich Theater Technical Asst. Mohawk Valley Community College Utica, NY ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050712141305.03eef7a0 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:17:23 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Scrim too high In-Reply-To: References: Yes--if it needs to be that height, then it should have a means of tripping it. If it doesn't need to be that height, that it should obviously be shorter. One theatre I know of has what amounts to a west coasting basket--a series of hooks (attached to the rear wall, in this case) with the drape attached behind them. When they don't want the drape, they bring it up and pile it into the hooks. The installation even has a muslin cover to keep the dust off. Mike At 01:56 PM 7/12/2005, IAEG [at] aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 7/12/05 2:53:38 PM, mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com writes: > ><< The scrim may not be made wrong. >> > >sounds more like it was "specified wrong" ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Laura McMeley" Subject: Re: Slowing down a mirror ball Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:33:41 -0500 Thanks for all your suggestions. When I examined the current motor, I discovered it was a 5rpm model. I ended up buying a 1 rpm motor and that did the trick. Obviously I would have loved the DMX controlled version but that was way out of my range for this project. Laura McMeley LD, Dallas,TX www.geocities.com/lmcmeley/ ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Slowing down a mirror ball Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:45:26 -0400 Message-ID: <003a01c58722$a5876980$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Thanks for all your suggestions. When I examined the current motor, I > discovered it was a 5rpm model. I ended up buying a 1 rpm > motor and that did > the trick. You could have put the audience on a turntable rotating in the opposite direction at 4 RPM. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:29:44 -0700 From: "Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center" Subject: Re: Slowing down a mirror ball In-reply-to: Message-id: <42D45268.7040405 [at] mtangelperformingarts.com> References: Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >>Thanks for all your suggestions. When I examined the current motor, I >>discovered it was a 5rpm model. I ended up buying a 1 rpm >>motor and that did >>the trick. >> >> > >You could have put the audience on a turntable rotating in the opposite >direction at 4 RPM. > > > > > I think you'd have to have the audience turntable turning in the _same_ direction, so the relative speed would be 1 rpm between the two. Turning in opposite directions would give a relative 9RPM... and then you'd really have to find large bearings to support the audience platform at that speed... (Insert appropriate story about 'relative bearing grease' here) Carla (with tongue firmly in cheek) ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Slowing down a mirror ball Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:34:16 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c5873a$3b5730f0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-reply-to: > I think you'd have to have the audience turntable turning in > the _same_ > direction, so the relative speed would be 1 rpm between the > two. Turning > in opposite directions would give a relative 9RPM You're right, of course. This is why I'm not a set designer. ...or a physicist. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:35:05 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Slowing down a mirror ball In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center wrote: > (Insert appropriate story about 'relative bearing grease' here) Please see my family tree for this information... Charlie ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Shell Dalzell Subject: Spackle Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:54:30 -1000 Aloha, Shell sdalzell [at] hawaii.rr.com On Jul 12, 2005, at 12:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote: > Do all have a favorite spackle product? On the suggestion of Paul Guncheon (one of our local curmugeons) I tried Crawfords and loved it. Also, the best way to get a crew to not use too much spackle, is to make the same crew do the sanding. Aloha, Shell ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42D46F19.806AAAA5 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:32:09 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: large air tank needed References:

"Frank E. Merrill" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Howdy ! > > Tuesday, July 12, 2005, Jerry Durand wrote: > > > ...water is used to cut steel very effectively. > > Okay. Lest a whole lot of you go out and sell your oxyacetylene > cutting outfit on Ebay in favor of a garden hose with attitude, Jerry > is describing a VERY high pressure narrow water jet that carries > carborundum powder to do the cutting. It IS cool though, if you'll > pardon the pun.... > There is also a water jet cutting system that uses the stream of water as an optical guide for a high power laser beam. The laser beam evaporates what it hits, and the water contains the heat making an extremely fine edge to the cut. I'd be really impressed if there is a scene shop that has one of those babies. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42D46FBD.5CE26CB7 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:34:53 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Flamability info References: RICHARD FINKELSTEIN wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings. I am starting on a show for production in a very strict fire code > enforcement locality and am looking at use of a material not traditionally > used in theatre. Although I know about the standard match test for > sustained flames I am wondering if anyone (Doom perhaps) might have some > guidance on translation of MSDS data to help in determining suitability. > > Ignition temp and a few other such measures are given on MSDSs but I do not > know what kind of numbers to look for. Can anyone provide any help here. > > RichardF Contact your local fire inspector and work with him/her on an acceptable method of using the material. Trying to bullshit the inspector with high power outside experts tends to backfire. Honey, not vinegar. --Dale. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42D48105.305 [at] josephchansen.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:48:37 -0400 From: Barney Simon Subject: Re: Scrim too high References:

In-Reply-To: Stephen Litterst wrote: > talk to your vendor about >exchanging it. > To the best of my knowledge, scrims are not 'off the shelf,' and while the size is popular, I suspect, that it could be recycled. If the final result is going to be that it really should be shortened. You will learn about your supplier, cutting it down requires about half the work of starting over. I'd like to know what they charge. Barney Simon J C Hansen Co, Inc Drapes, Drops, and Dance Floors Rentals, Sales, and Custom Sewing ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000501c5875c$2e2d7840$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Scrim too high Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:37:22 -0700 > You will learn about your supplier, cutting it down requires about half > the work of starting over. I'd like to know what they charge. Just out of curiosity Barney (and others) - when dealing with softgoods of this size (30'x60' is what the original poster said, and I'm assuming seamless) - how do you cut fabric like that straight? And especially scrim, where presumably you can't just 'rip' it and hope it pulls along the weave. Just curious... - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #456 *****************************