Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 23918882; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 03:00:56 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #471 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 03:00:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #471 1. Re: Job Posting - Head Carp - Chan Centre - more info by "richard j. archer" 2. Re: RGB lighting idea by Delbert Hall 3. Re: RGB lighting idea by John Bracewell 4. Re: dmx lengths by LITETROL [at] aol.com 5. Re: RGB lighting idea by "Chris Warner" 6. Re: RGB lighting idea by "Davis, Thomas J" 7. Re: Show record photography advice by Rick Malone 8. Re: Show record photography advice by "Tony Deeming" 9. Re: Job Posting - Head Carp - Chan Centre - more info by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 10. Dimmer voltage by "Michael Diederich" 11. Re: Show record photography advice by Mark O'Brien 12. Re: Dimmer voltage by LITETROL [at] aol.com 13. Re: RGB lighting idea by Jerry Durand 14. Re: RGB lighting idea by Dale Farmer 15. Re: RGB lighting idea by Jerry Durand 16. Re: RGB lighting idea by Jerry Durand 17. Re: Show record photography advice by Tom Grabowski 18. Re: Arts Jobs by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 19. Re: RGB lighting idea by John Bracewell 20. Re: RGB lighting idea by Jerry Durand 21. Re: Dimmer voltage by "Tony Deeming" 22. Re: Dimmer voltage by "Michael Diederich" 23. Re: Job Posting - Head Carp - Chan Centre - more info by CB 24. Re: Arts Jobs by Brian Munroe 25. RGB lighting idea by CB 26. Re: RGB lighting idea by Jerry Durand 27. Re: RGB lighting idea by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 28. Re: RGB lighting idea by Jerry Durand 29. Re: Show record photography advice by "C. Dopher" 30. Flooring options by Paul Marsland *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 06:22:35 -0500 From: "richard j. archer" Subject: Re: Job Posting - Head Carp - Chan Centre - more info > >> (with apologies to any consultants on the list -- I know you >> guys actually "do" theatre) > >A good theatre consultant is worth her or his weight in gold, but in a just >world, anyone who consulted on a new theater building would be required to >work in the building for 6 months after it opened. Way back in 1982 when Roger Morgan was consultant for the Ohio Theatre in downtown Cleveland (part of Playhouse Square) he did indeed light the first show performed in the renovated facility. (not 6 months but...) Some of future IA house crew also helped with the fly system install. Dick A TD, Cornell U ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:14:07 -0400 From: Delbert Hall Reply-To: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea In-Reply-To: References: Hey Jerry, I think think your idea is EXCELLENT. =20 On a similar note, I heard a little about OLEDs yesterday. Maybe future development in this area will produce a cheap light source that is sufficiently bright. -Delbert On 7/26/05, Jerry Durand wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > I was just reading in smalltimes magazine about the RGB spinning > color wheels used for the DLP projection TV systems and a thought > occurred to me... >=20 > How about a luminaire that has a white light source that can be > pulsed (LED, fluorescent, whatever) with the spinning wheel in front > of it. By PWM dimming the light through each section of the wheel, > you could generate what appeared to be a color beam, just like the > DLP TV sets. >=20 > I guess you could also use an arc lamp and a DLP chip that just > oscillated between all on/all off and the color wheel. >=20 > Long life, simple mechanicals (motor like the type to spin a hard > disk, quiet and long lived). >=20 > Ok, shoot me down. :) >=20 >=20 --=20 Delbert Hall Phone: 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20050727083138.02897cc8 [at] pop.lightlink.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:36:18 -0400 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea In-Reply-To: Sounds interesting, and I've also wondered why something like that couldn't be used. One thought that occurred to me for something like an arc source was the time constant of the source. Can an arc turn on and off quickly enough to make the beam appear flicker free and still oscillate between colors at the rate needed for the visual system to synthesize the desired color? I'm presuming that an oscillation rate of several hundred cycles per second minimum would be required. An LED could do this. What about the arc source? -- JLB ------------------------------ From: LITETROL [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1fc.6714966.3018da60 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:38:56 EDT Subject: Re: dmx lengths In a message dated 7/26/2005 12:33:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, dale [at] cybercom.net writes: DMX would probably work better over barbed wire, come to think of it. Much slower data rate gives everything else more room to degrade more I can't possibly be to first to say this, but: Doesn't that make the signal a little spikey? steve [at] litetrol.com Lite-Trol Service Co., Inc. 485 West John Street Hicksville NY 11801 800 548 3876 516 681 7288 fax ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003001c592aa$c16ae170$6401a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" References: Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 05:57:33 -0700 You don't oscillate the light source. ARC lights if they loose power take a LOOONG time to relight. My thought would be a rotating shutter like those used in a movie projector. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bracewell" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 5:36 AM Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Sounds interesting, and I've also wondered why something like that couldn't > be used. One thought that occurred to me for something like an arc source > was the time constant of the source. Can an arc turn on and off quickly > enough to make the beam appear flicker free and still oscillate between > colors at the rate needed for the visual system to synthesize the desired > color? I'm presuming that an oscillation rate of several hundred cycles > per second minimum would be required. An LED could do this. What about > the arc source? > > -- JLB > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 ------------------------------ Subject: RE: RGB lighting idea Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:57:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3CF87682970858499CA56707FB1F092B0A920A [at] wscc-s-003000.westshore.edu> From: "Davis, Thomas J" Seriously, I think you all should get your butts down to the patent office before this thing appears with a Rosco logo on it (no offense meant to Rosco) TD -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Chris Warner Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:58 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- You don't oscillate the light source. ARC lights if they loose power take a LOOONG time to relight. My thought would be a rotating shutter like those used in a movie projector. Chris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "John Bracewell" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 5:36 AM Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Sounds interesting, and I've also wondered why something like that couldn't > be used. One thought that occurred to me for something like an arc source > was the time constant of the source. Can an arc turn on and off quickly > enough to make the beam appear flicker free and still oscillate between > colors at the rate needed for the visual system to synthesize the desired > color? I'm presuming that an oscillation rate of several hundred cycles > per second minimum would be required. An LED could do this. What about > the arc source? > > -- JLB > > > > --=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 > > --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42E78653.2040209 [at] sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:04:19 -0500 From: Rick Malone Subject: Re: Show record photography advice Prior to going digital, I have had great success with the tungsten balanced slide films, Kodak Elite series. I get them in ISO 160 and 320. They can be pushed in the lab. Almost always requires a tripod. I've also used high speed color print film with a filter; depends on what the client wants. That said, I haven't touched my film cameras in nearly two years after buying a Canon EOS Rebel. I use it exclusively now for production photography. The original Digital Rebel is now available for about $750 with lens. I have made excellent prints up to 16x20 with the images. Your results may vary based on lighting and ISO setting. Higher ISO settings tend to produce more "noise" in the image. You can see the results at my web site in albums for Female Transport and Gross Indecency: www.rickmalone.com/photogallery Rick Malone in HOT, muggy San Antonio ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: RE: Show record photography advice Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:17:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Rick > Malone > Sent: 27 July 2005 14:04 > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Show record photography advice > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Prior to going digital, I have had great success with the tungsten > balanced slide films, Kodak Elite series. I get them in ISO 160 and > 320. They can be pushed in the lab. Almost always requires a tripod. > I've also used high speed color print film with a filter; depends on > what the client wants. > > That said, I haven't touched my film cameras in nearly two years after > buying a Canon EOS Rebel. I use it exclusively now for production > photography. The original Digital Rebel is now available for about $750 > with lens. I have made excellent prints up to 16x20 with the images. > Your results may vary based on lighting and ISO setting. Higher ISO > settings tend to produce more "noise" in the image. You can see the > results at my web site in albums for Female Transport and Gross > Indecency: > > www.rickmalone.com/photogallery > > > Rick Malone > in HOT, muggy > San Antonio > > Gotta say, Rick, I LOVE the set for Female Transport! Nice pics, too. Tony ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Job Posting - Head Carp - Chan Centre - more info Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:44:46 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c592b1$5d324750$6801a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > That would allow most consultants maybe a project a year. Their=20 > weight in gold would be what you'd end up paying... Do the=20 > math--today's close in NY was $425.30/oz. On the other hand, it might teach them to not put electrics on 1' = centers, or put tab electrics offstage of tab curtains, or put winch control in a location from which the operator cannot see the pipe as it's moving, = or..... ------------------------------ Subject: Dimmer voltage Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:38:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Michael Diederich" My buddy is working on a little problem right now in his TV studio. He is running Lutron brand dimmers installed less than two years ago. He took a max reading of 105v. He is only running fresnels (6") and no dimmer is loaded over 1K. He was wondering about lost light output and possible reasons for the lower voltage. Any suggestions? Mike Diederich=20 Theater Technical Asst.=20 MVCC Utica, NY ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Show record photography advice Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 07:39:12 -0700 Rick, I love the quality of the photos on your website. Good looking set as well. But what I really like is the simplicity of your website. It is easy to find the pictures, and when one finds them, it is easy to choose the resolution that fits your needs. -Mark-O Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Jul 27, 2005, at 6:04 AM, Rick Malone wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Prior to going digital, I have had great success with the tungsten > balanced slide films, Kodak Elite series. I get them in ISO 160 and > 320. They can be pushed in the lab. Almost always requires a tripod. > I've also used high speed color print film with a filter; depends on > what the client wants. > > That said, I haven't touched my film cameras in nearly two years after > buying a Canon EOS Rebel. I use it exclusively now for production > photography. The original Digital Rebel is now available for about > $750 with lens. I have made excellent prints up to 16x20 with the > images. Your results may vary based on lighting and ISO setting. > Higher ISO settings tend to produce more "noise" in the image. You > can see the results at my web site in albums for Female Transport and > Gross Indecency: > www.rickmalone.com/photogallery > > > Rick Malone > in HOT, muggy > San Antonio > ------------------------------ From: LITETROL [at] aol.com Message-ID: <8c.2bb12be2.3018f7ca [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:44:26 EDT Subject: Re: Dimmer voltage In a message dated 7/27/2005 10:38:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, mdiederich [at] mvcc.edu writes: My buddy is working on a little problem right now in his TV studio. He is running Lutron brand dimmers installed less than two years ago. He took a max reading of 105v. He is only running fresnels (6") and no dimmer is loaded over 1K. He was wondering about lost light output and possible reasons for the lower voltage. Any suggestions? Where is this 105VAC reading taken? At the rack? At the fixture pigtail? What is the incoming line voltages to the dimmer rack? There are certain "insertion" losses whenever a phase control dimmer is used (see the ETC website for a very good article on that, written by Bill Wolfe). s. steve [at] litetrol.com Lite-Trol Service Co., Inc. 485 West John Street Hicksville NY 11801 800 548 3876 516 681 7288 fax ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 07:52:45 -0700 On Jul 27, 2005, at 5:36 AM, John Bracewell wrote: > Sounds interesting, and I've also wondered why something like that > couldn't be used. One thought that occurred to me for something > like an arc source was the time constant of the source. Can an arc > turn on and off quickly enough to make the beam appear flicker free > and still oscillate between colors at the rate needed for the > visual system to synthesize the desired color? I'm presuming that > an oscillation rate of several hundred cycles per second minimum > would be required. An LED could do this. What about the arc source? I think it would depend on the type of lamp. A xenon strobe can be on and off in microseconds. I was thinking you could also use a reflective LCD as a shutter if you could turn it on and off fast enough. A regular LCD would get too hot since it absorbs the light when dark. A reject DLP chip (few bad pixels) would probably be the easiest/ simplest to use. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42E7A076.CB576B26 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:55:50 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea References:

Chris Warner wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > You don't oscillate the light source. ARC lights if they loose power take a > LOOONG time to relight. My thought would be a rotating shutter like those > used in a movie projector. > > Chris Or a very high flash rate strobe lamp like they use in the Omnimax movie projectors. Course there is the issue that you now need to supply chilled water to the thing... --Dale ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:02:55 -0700 On Jul 27, 2005, at 5:57 AM, Chris Warner wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > You don't oscillate the light source. ARC lights if they loose > power take a > LOOONG time to relight. My thought would be a rotating shutter > like those > used in a movie projector. > > Chris That wouldn't work since you need to change the "on-time" of the light from 0-100% for each color of the wheel that goes by. The devil is in the details, how to PWM a white light source? ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <48A56A21-D526-4A9B-BCE7-93E6CA879E69 [at] interstellar.com> From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:20:41 -0700 On Jul 27, 2005, at 7:55 AM, Dale Farmer wrote: > Or a very high flash rate strobe lamp like they use in the > Omnimax movie > projectors. Course there is the issue that you now need to supply > chilled > water to the thing... > Considering the water-cooled processors in the latest PCs that I've seen, that isn't the problem it used to be. I maintained and re- built laser systems that had a 3KW continuos-on arc lamp about 1" from the laser rod (YAG) and enclosed in a mirrored chamber. All of this inside a plastic enclosure. They were kept cool by pumping distilled water through the chamber. The biggest problem was with the electronics (poor design by someone else), not the cooling. ------------------------------ From: Tom Grabowski Reply-To: tomgrab [at] utpa.edu Subject: Re: Show record photography advice Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:32:07 -0500 Organization: UTPA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050727103207533.00000000568 [at] TGRABOWSKI> > From: Richard Bakos > Organization: Studio One Inc. > Subject: Re: Show record photography advice > = > Do you shoot with a Tripod for the digital photos? > = > Tom Grabowski wrote: > = > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see = > > >--------------------------------------------------- > > > > I need some advice on shooting record shots of sets and = > lighting for productions. > > > -- > = > Richard Bakos > President > Studio One Inc. > 25833 State Road 2 > South Bend, In 46619-4736 > VOICE 574-232-9084 > FAX 574-232-2220 > Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com > www.StudioOnesb.com I shoot the digitals with a monopod. I find it easier to run around the s= eats of our thrust theatre with it rather than a tripod. Tom ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Arts Jobs Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:23:10 -0400 Just remember folks: It's not our job to support the Arts. It's the Art's job to support us. Please keep this in mind at all times. Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ********** E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act. ********** ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20050727130638.02e22cd8 [at] pop.lightlink.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:11:01 -0400 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea In-Reply-To: References:

I haven't worked with arcs in a LOOOONG time, so I'm not really up to speed, but I'm wondering: Is it the arc assembly itself that prevents rapid recovery or is the associated electronics? Besides, an HID lamp really has almost no lines in the red end of the spectrum, at least the ones with which I've been familiar. The arcs used in follows are more balanced. I think I've seen them come back a LOT faster than a standard, industrial HID. Question to anyone who would know. If one were pulsing an arc rapidly, is that the same as completely losing power? I know that sounds like a stupid question, but turning off a power switch happens at the level of one or more seconds elapse in time. Electronics can turn off and on power in microseconds. So there's my question. Is this a real difference or does the arc respond the same no matter for how short a period it loses its power? -- JLB ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050727102454.029b5348 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:26:23 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea In-Reply-To: References:

At 10:11 AM 7/27/2005, you wrote: >Question to anyone who would know. If one were pulsing an arc >rapidly, is that the same as completely losing power? I know that >sounds like a stupid question, but turning off a power switch >happens at the level of one or more seconds elapse in >time. Electronics can turn off and on power in microseconds. So >there's my question. Is this a real difference or does the arc >respond the same no matter for how short a period it loses its power? The plasma would cool and go out pretty quickly, but if the electrodes or quartz housing were really hot, that would glow for a while. I saw that when I used to use 135A arc carbon arc lamps, turning off the power make it darker, not dark. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: RE: Dimmer voltage Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:35:14 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Michael > Diederich > Sent: 27 July 2005 15:39 > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Dimmer voltage > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > My buddy is working on a little problem right now in his TV studio. He > is running Lutron brand dimmers installed less than two years ago. He > took a max reading of 105v. He is only running fresnels (6") and no > dimmer is loaded over 1K. He was wondering about lost light output and > possible reasons for the lower voltage. Any suggestions? > > Mike Diederich > Theater Technical Asst. > MVCC > Utica, NY Hi. To answer this, we need more info. Where is he measuring that voltage? At the fixture or at the dimmer rack? Is he measuring with the load (ie the lantern) in circuit or not? With the lantern in circuit (ie plugged in) he may well see a drop in the volts at both ends of the cable. Either way, unless the cable run is very long there shouldn't be a great deal of difference between the volts dropped at the rack and those at the socket outlet with the lantern unplugged. Is this voltage measured on ALL channels, or just one? I suspect it's one several, if not all, based on your OP. If you DO have the lower voltage at the rack end, I'd check it's OK on the incoming feed to the rack. If there's a difference between the incoming and outgoing, that still may be ok, as you could be losing a little through the dimmer itself - that is common. What's the norm over there? If it's 110v, then I'd question why he's worried about the 'loss' of 5v - it won't make a huge amount of difference to the light output, and taken to the extremes, might mean he gets a small percentage improvement in lamp life, if they're 110v rated! One last thing - poking around with a meter on live mains circuits is NOT something I'd recommend to anyone who isn't at the very least competent with electrical theory - tap your probes across the wrong terminals and at best you'll fry the dimmer, and at worst .....! Take care. Tony ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Dimmer voltage Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:47:55 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Michael Diederich" >>>>>To answer this, we need more info.<<<<<< Here is the response I got back from my buddy a few minutes ago. >>I think I have a handle on the issue. There was a high level limit on the dimmers that stopped power at 90% - even at a full pot on the control board, the dimmer wasn't putting through all voltage available. =20 Since I'd rather have full control than forced to limit at 90%, I removed that limit. I'm still only at 112v now, but that is a lot more respectable. =20 Thomas Fazzio=20 Maxwell ICT<< ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050727154606.011b1828 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:46:06 From: CB Subject: RE: Job Posting - Head Carp - Chan Centre - more info >> (with apologies to any consultants on the list -- I know you >> guys actually "do" theatre) > >A good theatre consultant is worth her or his weight in gold, but in a just >world, anyone who consulted on a new theater building would be required to >work in the building for 6 months after it opened. Or avoid that altogether by working in the theatre that it is replacing six months before it closes. That way they'd know what problems needs fixin' *before* they created them! (This offer does not apply to all theatrical consultants. Offer void in some states. Management is not responsible for items lost or stolen. Contents may have settled during shipping) Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:24:35 -0400 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: Arts Jobs In-Reply-To: References: On 7/27/05, Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com=20 > Just remember folks: >=20 > It's not our job to support the Arts. It's the Art's job to support us. >=20 > Please keep this in mind at all times. It's "Show BUSINESS." Not Show Fun, Show Charity or Show Hobby. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050727162419.011b1828 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:24:19 From: CB Subject: RGB lighting idea >How about a luminaire that has a white light source that can be >pulsed (LED, fluorescent, whatever) with the spinning wheel in front >of it. By PWM dimming the light through each section of the wheel, >you could generate what appeared to be a color beam, just like the >DLP TV sets. Just buy the DLP, and feed it colors and/or images with a computer. Shoot, you could use a powerpoint program! The item that you describe *is* a DLP. The reason that they aren't used (yet) is cost. That is if you'll allow the skweek to voice an opinion. It is coming though, when the technology can be mass-produced cheaply enough, and the light source can be had cheaply enough. Ya know what one of those lamps costs? I see a day when pretty much every theatrical instrument will be fed a computer signal of images, color, or video. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050727163829.029e4528 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:41:41 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea In-Reply-To: References: At 09:24 AM 7/27/2005, you wrote: >Just buy the DLP, and feed it colors and/or images with a computer. Shoot, >you could use a powerpoint program! The item that you describe *is* a DLP. > The reason that they aren't used (yet) is cost. Not exactly, the "real" DLP is trying to put pixels on a screen, it would be "real hard" to get the shape/size of beam you want. As for cost, in our case we can use reject chips with bad pixels (when I did a VR helmet for ______ Game Company we used reject camcorder viewfinder displays since we only needed every other line). >That is if you'll allow the skweek to voice an opinion. It is coming >though, when the technology can be mass-produced cheaply enough, and the >light source can be had cheaply enough. Ya know what one of those lamps >costs? I see a day when pretty much every theatrical instrument will be >fed a computer signal of images, color, or video. Yes, basically have a bank of DLP projectors, one per angle desired. You just program in the beam shape and color (with a rainbow out of one instrument possible). ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: RGB lighting idea Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:48:48 -0400 Message-ID: <003d01c59305$bed9c6f0$6801a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > >That is if you'll allow the skweek to voice an opinion. It > is coming > >though, when the technology can be mass-produced cheaply enough, and > >the light source can be had cheaply enough. Ya know what > one of those > >lamps costs? I see a day when pretty much every theatrical > instrument > >will be fed a computer signal of images, color, or video. > > Yes, basically have a bank of DLP projectors, one per angle > desired. You just program in the beam shape and color (with a > rainbow out of one instrument possible). Jerry, can we design this so that it generates lots of noise and RF? ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050727165841.029e4008 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:59:29 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: RGB lighting idea In-Reply-To: References:

At 04:48 PM 7/27/2005, you wrote: >Jerry, can we design this so that it generates lots of noise and RF? Sure, but not if I make more money off selling it than DMX thingies. :) ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:51:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Show record photography advice From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050726141829346.00000003996 [at] TGRABOWSKI> On 7/26/05 3:18 PM, "Tom Grabowski" wrote: > I know that part of the problem is d= > ue to the equipment but I currently cannot afford to upgrade to a higher-en= > d digital camera yet. Rent. Yes, there are places that rent professional digital equipment. > My question is what are people doing for record shot= > s now? What were the options out there in the way of film today? Have you tried T160 or T320 slide film? I don't know about getting back multiple slides and negatives, but I find it to be good for getting lighting shots. Cris Dopher, LD ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050728013746.19870.qmail [at] web52211.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:37:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Marsland Subject: Flooring options In-Reply-To: From: Mike Brubaker > How is it when wet? (water, fog fluid, bubble > machines...) > How about dance? Hey Mike, This floor is no better or worse than others when wet, the soapy water makes anything slippery. But no water or soap will cause any bubbling or delaminating. The dancers that know two ways about a floor usually put down a marley floor. The smaller dance groups that can't afford to rent a marley are happy enough with this plastic floor. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #471 *****************************