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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #476

 1. Re: Digital Camera
    by "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
 2. Re: visualization
    by "Andrew Nikel" <anikel [at] citytheatrical.com>
 3. Re: House lighting in a small black box
    by "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
 4. Re: visualization
    by "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
 5. Re: House lighting in a small black box
    by "Jeffrey Kanyuck" <JKanyuck [at] Harford.edu>
 6. Re: RGB lighting
    by Villem Teder <vteder [at] interlog.com>
 7. Re: visualization
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
 8. Re: poor flooring job
    by Steven Hood <hoodnik77 [at] yahoo.com>
 9. Re: Makita Batteries
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
10. Re: Follow spot repeat...
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
11. Re: followspots
    by Steven Hood <hoodnik77 [at] yahoo.com>
12. Re: Follow spot repeat...
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
13. Vacuform...
    by "Michael Wade" <mike [at] focusnote.com>
14. Re: Vacuform...
    by "Randy Whitcomb" <rwhitco [at] comcast.net>
15. Re: Follow spot repeat...
    by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com
16. Digital Photos - has anyone tried "RAW" format?
    by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
17. Re: Digital Photos - has anyone tried "RAW" format?
    by "Thomas R. Spalding" <tspalding [at] newcomb-boyd.com>
18. Need label legend help in VW 10
    by Edward Hunter <ed.hunter [at] Sun.COM>
19. Re: Need label legend help in VW 10
    by "Kevin Linzey" <Klinzey [at] nemetschek.net>
20. Re: Recommendations on Assistive Listening
    by "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>
21. Re: Need label legend help in VW 10
    by Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
22. Re: Need label legend help in VW 10
    by Joseph Champelli <joechamp [at] gmail.com>
23. Re: Need label legend help in VW 10
    by Samuel Jones <sjones [at] ucla.edu>
24. Re: Need label legend help in VW 10
    by Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
25. Re: Recommendations on Assistive Listening
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

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Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 07:00:24 -0400
From: "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
Subject: Re: Digital Camera

I too have a Nikon D-70 (digital SLR) It operates like a film SLR. I
bought mine from a local camera shop here in York, PA. Be careful when
buying on line or from large stores. The price might appear to be very
low compared to others but you may not be getting a USA warranty, which
you definitely want! Otherwise you may have to send your camera back to
Japan to get repairs. Also low price sometimes buys you a camera system
in parts; camera body, lens, lens cap, strap, battery and charger sold
seperately. Which you definitely don't want! You end up paying the
original kit price and possibly without a USA warranty. Buyer Beware.
Les

Les Lind, TD
NHS Dramatics
Northeastern High School
Manchester, PA



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Greetings,
With all this talk about photography, I want to buy a new digital
camera.  
I have about $1000.00.  
Do I need to spend more? 
I want it for my portfolio and archiving.
What do I want to buy?  
Thanks,
Steve Schepker
Southeastern Louisiana University

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From: "Andrew Nikel" <anikel [at] citytheatrical.com>
Subject: Re: visualization
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 07:43:14 -0400
Message-ID: <JNEMKLCHNOMOHOGEILMLEEAICHAA.anikel [at] citytheatrical.com>

We had a request a while back for a control device using an audio feed to
drive LED fixtures like a light organ/Windows Media Player Visualizer. We
came up with a couple ideas but it wasn't developed. I hadn't considered the
legality of using the pre-recorded music though, as it was for a ritzy but
still private home. In your case, it's a public performance and the music
could be live. That's an interesting question, Chris. I'll be interested to
hear what people think.

Andrew Nikel - Sales
City Theatrical, Inc.
752 East 133rd Street, Bronx, NY 10454
Voice:  718-292-7932 x23, Fax: 718-292-7482
email:  anikel [at] citytheatrical.com
web:    www.citytheatrical.com

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Has anyone ever tried to use the visualization feature of Windows Media
Player (or something comparable) to complement onstage music during either a
dance or musical performance?  If so, how'd was it done?  Could it be used
with live music?  Is it legal?
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Date:	Mon, 01 Aug 2005 07:43:57 -0400
Subject: Re: House lighting in a small black box
From:	"C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
Message-ID: <BF13833D.1BCD4%brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
In-Reply-To: <42EDB067.8980D3D2 [at] cybercom.net>

The short answer, Chris, to your question about house lights is:

Got any 6" fresnels hanging around?  Cheeseborough some pipe up above the
grid that will keep the fresnels above grid level, but focused through the
grid onto the audience.  Or just hang them as part of the plot.

 Alternatively, S4 Pars w. frost, lamped at 375 would be good.  Since you
already have emergency lighting taken care of, house lighting needn't be any
more complicated than this.

Cris Dopher, LD


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Date:	Mon, 01 Aug 2005 07:53:38 -0400
Subject: Re: visualization
From:	"C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
Message-ID: <BF138582.1BCD6%brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
In-Reply-To: <000801c5966b$4be6c850$6701a8c0 [at] tamiasuis>

On 8/1/05 3:33 AM, "Christopher K. Nimm" <nimmck [at] charter.net> wrote:

> Has anyone ever tried to use the visualization feature of Windows Media
> Player (or something comparable) to complement onstage music during either a
> dance or musical performance?  If so, how'd was it done?  Could it be used
> with live music?  Is it legal?
> 
> Chris Nimm 

I haven't used an audio program's visualization feature yet, but have
thought about it.  I'd prefer to be able to project it as a gobo.

I work regularly with a team that does Internet 2 collaborative projects.  A
usual part of the spectacle is 1 to 5 cameras of the performance, run
through Jitter effects, mixed live, and broadcast to any mix of our 3
screens or the other spaces' screens.  Given some experimentation and a
modicum of planning, the results can be quite stunning.

Cris Dopher, LD


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Message-Id: <s2ede70e.005 [at] ADM4.Harford.edu>
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 09:10:33 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Kanyuck" <JKanyuck [at] Harford.edu>
Subject: Re: House lighting in a small black box

One of the things I did for house lighting in a black box was to buy the
$10.00 yellow work lights that were 500W each and sit on the floor. I
added the proper connecter for working in the theatrical lighting and
reversed the handle to be able to hang it from our lighting truss/pipes.
In all it was a heck of a lot cheaper than buying new 6" fresnels or
using part of our original lighting inventory. 
Our black box at the time was 33'W by 60'L. I used 9 of the work lights
which were also dimmable to cover 2/3 of the space for audience. Simply
add another 3 to cover the other 3rd of the space when the audience
seating and platforms were removed for using the entire space as a
workshop for kids. 
Once I also wired some gel in front of them and used them on our movie
screen as cyc lights.

Jeff Kanyuck


>>> crovers [at] gmail.com 7/31/2005 12:16 PM >>>
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Hi, all

Some of you may remember, I'm rebuilding a fire damaged black box
theatre on a shoestring budget.  We were originally planning on
re-using the old house lighting (which were just old factory pendant
lights, because the space used to be a factory), but it looks like
they were more damaged then we originally thought.  It may be easiest
just to look at new houselights rather then refurb things that weren't
ideal in the first place.

So... if the big factor was budget, what would you use to light a 35'
x 35' black box space, 18 feet tall, grid about 16'.  The building
will be black inside, if that makes a different (I just primed the
wall - sort of amusing having a 'white box space', but that'll change)

Our requirements are basically just being dimmable and capable of
lighting the space.  We'd like to run them using a channel from our
dimmer pack (1 of 24), controlled by the lighting board (Ideally, we'd
have a remote switch near a door, but budget prevents that from
happening right away).  Ideally, they would be mountable at grid
height or just above, so we don't have to dodge them with our
scaffolding when we're hanging lights.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  If anyone has any
donations or hints at grants or other money sources, too, even more so
(Waterloo, Ontario, Canada) - we can do Canadian tax receipts, heck,
we'll name the theatre after you if you donate enough - we're not
proud :)

Thanks very much

Chris

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050801091511.007fbc00 [at] mail.interlog.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 09:15:11 -0400
From: Villem Teder <vteder [at] interlog.com>
Subject: Re: RGB lighting

At 03:01 AM 8/1/05 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Found distributor, but without some MAJOR funding, I can't make it happen,
>the DLP chips, including the DMD and drivers are 2700-6000 dollars a set!
>Might have to put that one aside for a while.
>
>Chris
>

Chris:

Several thoughts. Have a look at Laser Surplus Sales (www.lasersurplus.com)
in their optics section, near the bottom. They list an assortment of
modules and components from DLP projectors. Perhaps something there might
be what you are looking for?

Another possible source for parts is broken DLP projectors. I recently
bought one on EBay, just to take apart someday to see what's inside. (Paid
more for shipping to Canada than the actual unit, but that seems to happen
a lot on EBay for me.) I'll probably get around to taking it apart soon, as
it is becoming more of trip hazard than a door stop. Would any interesting
bits be of any use when I'm done dissecting? 

Regards,

Villem Teder
Toronto

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Subject: RE: visualization
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:47:11 -0400
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C899 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> Has anyone ever tried to use the visualization feature of=20
> Windows Media=20
> Player (or something comparable) to complement onstage music=20
> during either a=20
> dance or musical performance?  If so, how'd was it done? =20
> Could it be used=20
> with live music?  Is it legal?

I was involved with a production of Everyman a few years back where the
voice of God was accompanied this way.  The lines were recorded into a
.wav file on a laptop and played back through WM with the full-screen
visualization on; we had to build a small shutter to sit in front of the
projector until it was time to go.

The main issue we faced (and I apologize, but I don't recall how or even
if we dealt with this) was the fact that we couldn't get a consistent
"look" from performance to performance.  There's enough random
fluctuation built into the code that the visualizer wouldn't spit out
the same effects each time.  We didn't have the time at the time to
really look long and hard at solutions, though a second computer would
probably be needed to capture a few different trials (with what
software, I don't know) to pick the one you like best...

Dunno about the legality, though.  That particular effect was one I
didn't have much involvement with.

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Message-ID: <20050801143411.30948.qmail [at] web20821.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 07:34:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steven Hood <hoodnik77 [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: poor flooring job
In-Reply-To: <list-23984396 [at] prxy.net>

Make 'em re-do it. If the previous trim was gacking up
the floor, the new one will be even worse. We had
thresholds ina couple places our shell towers had to
go. We yanked 'em out, and the towers are happy that
way. No dips or valleys where something that tall and
heavy has to roll....
Not to mention the way paint and and liquids that get
onto your stage will flow into your pit... Think
ponding in the basement. Bad thought? Yep.
Steven Hood
TD, Regent Uni


		
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Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 04:39:06 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Makita Batteries
Message-id: <004201c596a6$c5c7cb70$c6354104 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p>
References: <list-23984396 [at] prxy.net>

<<Is there any chance you are charging NiMH batteries on NiCad chargers?>>

No..  The chargers state they do both.  

But the chances are real good that the batteries are crap.

Laters,

Paul

"Ah, HERE's the silver lining!" said Tom profoundly. 


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Message-Id: <1da3840337858222ced5d0eacddc34d1 [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Follow spot repeat...
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 10:39:05 -0400

> They need to have a max usuable throw of 150 feet and operate off of 
> 120 AC and run as quiet as possible.

I have two of the the Lycian 1267 SuperArc 400's and love them.  Lycian 
makes great products.  You could probably get away with the 1209 or 
1266 but I have a throw of 130' throw and would suggest at least the 
1267 or better for the punch if you can afford it.


Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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Message-ID: <20050801145058.35993.qmail [at] web20821.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 07:50:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steven Hood <hoodnik77 [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: followspots
In-Reply-To: <list-23984396 [at] prxy.net>

Erm... 150 ft? Sounds like a job for a Trouper, if you
can find one used... It doesn't like Strong has really
replaced it with something to function at 120V in your
throw range... Altman has the 400W Voyager... Fairly
quiet, but not when someone leans their headset wire
against it... They're decent units... I don't like the
Lycian units we have here. The focus is based on the
zoom, and it complicates things; plus the Voyager has
a nicer douser, IMNSHO... (FWIW, the LD here doesn't
like the Lycian focus system, either)
Slainte, y'all
Steven Hood
Regent Uni


		
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Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 10:56:59 -0400
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Follow spot repeat...
Message-id: <42EE383B.891983D2 [at] ithaca.edu>
Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts
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Greg Bierly wrote:
> ---------------------------------------------------
> > They need to have a max usuable throw of 150 feet and operate off of
> > 120 AC and run as quiet as possible.
> 
> I have two of the the Lycian 1267 SuperArc 400's and love them.  Lycian
> makes great products.  You could probably get away with the 1209 or
> 1266 but I have a throw of 130' throw and would suggest at least the
> 1267 or better for the punch if you can afford it.

We have three Lycian 1272s (Starklite II).  The fixture is great
except for the noise.  I don't know if the fan design is different on
the SuperArcs, but I'd suggest checking them out for noise before
making the decision.

Steve LItterst


-- 
Stephen C. Litterst
Technical Supervisor
Ithaca College
Dept. of Theatre Arts
607/274-3947
slitterst [at] ithaca.edu

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Subject: Vacuform...
Reply-To: mike [at] focusnote.com
References: <list-23984396 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <op.sut31mdbl92zon [at] mike.mshome.net>
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:02:00 -0400
From: "Michael Wade" <mike [at] focusnote.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-23984396 [at] prxy.net>

Hello all.  I know this came up recently, but I am having trouble  
searching the archives.  I am looking for Vacuform suppliers, more  
specifically I am looking for books.

Thanks for the help.

Mike Wade



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Message-ID: <000601c596ae$8fe96240$6501a8c0 [at] D4D3R151>
From: "Randy Whitcomb" <rwhitco [at] comcast.net>
Cc: mike [at] focusnote.com
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Subject: Re: Vacuform...
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:34:52 -0600


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Wade" <mike [at] focusnote.com>
> Hello all.  I know this came up recently, but I am having trouble 
> searching the archives.  I am looking for Vacuform suppliers, more 
> specifically I am looking for books.

Here's a link:  http://evensontech.com/vacuum.html
I know and work with Jason, and have used his "books" in previous 
productions.

Randy Whitcomb, TD
Price Civic Aud.
Loveland, CO. 


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Subject: Re: Follow spot repeat...
Message-ID: <OFDF28753E.EEB2D5C9-ON85257050.005C6A88-85257050.005CA9D3 [at] sarasotagov.com>
From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:52:08 -0400


Steve Jones wrote:

Now that life has slowed down a bit here, let me repeat a question I asked
several months ago and am just getting back around to dealing with.

Our theatre is looking to purchase 2 followspots.  They need to have a max
usuable throw of 150 feet and operate off of 120 AC and run as quiet as
possible.

Any hands on input would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Steve


Steve - I have 4 Lycian 1275's and I love them. That's longer throw than
you need but go to www.lycian.com and look at their products. Having said
that there's a lot of other good stuff out there.


Marty Petlock
Technical Facilities Manager
Van Wezel P.A.H.
Sarasota, FL.

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From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
Cc: schoenfeldkyle [at] gmail.com ('Kyle Schoenfeld')
Subject: Digital Photos - has anyone tried "RAW" format?
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:54:49 -0400
In-Reply-To: <list-23979928 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20050801165455.LWVR2981.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866>

> Just a quick site thats good for reference- www.dpreview.com

I really like this site -- thanks, Kyle!

Has anyone tried capturing their digital lighting designs with RAW or TIFF
image format?  On the Nikon D70 and D100 (and possibly the new D50 as well)
the raw data format is 12 bits per pixel.  If the JPG format only supports
8-bit (I'm pretty sure this is the case), you lose depth when the camera
compresses the image.

Do the Rebel cameras have the RAW option as well?  Is the native resolution
of the CCD higher than 8 bits per pixel?

I'm going to be experimenting with RAW format on my D100 in the coming week.
With those extra 4 bits (conceivably 16 times more depth) it should be a lot
closer to the dynamic range of film.  The trade-off is that a 256MB flash
card will only store 24 RAW images or 13 TIFF images, compared to 142 with
normal JPG compression.  All of these options are at full 6-megapixel
resolution.

Jim



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Subject: RE: Digital Photos - has anyone tried "RAW" format?
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:30:31 -0400
Message-ID: <28077FD270CFAD4E85701B91A78D7D95496F7F [at] nbexchsrv01.newcomb-boyd.com>
From: "Thomas R. Spalding" <tspalding [at] newcomb-boyd.com>

Canon cameras offer a raw format.  On the old digital rebel if you shoot
in RAW it also saves a medium size JPG.  I think the cameras higher on
the food chain allow you to store both a large JPG and the raw file
simultaneously.  Seems like the best of both worlds if you have plenty
of storage space.  Rumor has it that you can find hacked firmware for
the cheaper rebel to unlock the large/raw combo but I'm a long way from
the JPEG compression limiting the quality of my photographs so I stick
with what canon gave me.

I think RAW Canon photos are 12 bit as well but they have to be
converted to either 8 or 16 when you process them in the computer.

-Tom

Cc: 'Kyle Schoenfeld'

Do the Rebel cameras have the RAW option as well?  Is the native
resolution
of the CCD higher than 8 bits per pixel?



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Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:32:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Edward Hunter <ed.hunter [at] Sun.COM>
Subject: Need label legend help in VW 10
Reply-to: Edward Hunter <ed.hunter [at] Sun.COM>
Message-id: <0IKK008503I5UCE0 [at] ha14sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com>

I'm trying to create a label legend in VW 10 but for some reason the container 
(in this case a circle) won't scale with the text it's suppose to contain.  So 
my channel numbers wind up spilling outside their circle.  Clearly I'm missing 
something but I'm not sure what.  Thanks.
-edh


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From: "Kevin Linzey" <Klinzey [at] nemetschek.net>
Cc: ed.hunter [at] Sun.COM ('Edward Hunter')
Subject: RE: Need label legend help in VW 10
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:46:47 -0400
Message-ID: <00a701c596c9$5f3c56f0$1101a8c0 [at] nemetschek.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-23990820 [at] prxy.net>

The container does not automatically scale.

If you need a larger container you can edit the symbols in the container
folder.  Once you exit the symbol all the containers will update.

You can also add new symbols to the containers folder and they will appear
as options in the label legend manager.


Kevin 

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Kevin Linzey
Nemetschek North America
Integrated Products Engineer
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> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf 
> Of Edward Hunter
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:32 PM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Need label legend help in VW 10
> 
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
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> 
> I'm trying to create a label legend in VW 10 but for some 
> reason the container 
> (in this case a circle) won't scale with the text it's 
> suppose to contain.  So 
> my channel numbers wind up spilling outside their circle.  
> Clearly I'm missing 
> something but I'm not sure what.  Thanks.
> -edh
> 


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Subject: RE: Recommendations on Assistive Listening
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:16:27 -0700
Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B7323B03 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu>
From: "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>

My FM setup has receivers with earbuds, and also tele-loops that plug in =
instead of the earbuds - no fuss, no muss, no hassle...

Randy Storms
rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Bill

It would be great if loops became the default standard in the US.
Unfortunately, I cannot justify it for our local theatre, as I have =
never
encountered a patron that has or knows what a T-coil is. All the =
assistive
systems around here seem to be either IR or FM.

Bill


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From: Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
Subject: Re: Need label legend help in VW 10
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 19:22:19 -0700


On Aug 1, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Edward Hunter wrote:

> I'm trying to create a label legend in VW 10 but for some reason  
> the container
> (in this case a circle) won't scale with the text it's suppose to  
> contain.  So
> my channel numbers wind up spilling outside their circle.

On Aug 1, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Kevin Linzey wrote:

> The container does not automatically scale.

Maybe a future Vectorworks could have an outline type for text  
(square, rounded edges, etc) that expands with the text! :-)  (maybe  
that would get me to upgrade from 9? no, but more automated text  
alignment across symbols would!)

Noah

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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 22:44:04 -0400
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> Maybe a future Vectorworks could have an outline type for text
> (square, rounded edges, etc) that expands with the text! :-) =20

---snip---


I think you'd have a very hard to read drawing as every container
would look slightly different.


Joe

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From: Samuel Jones <sjones [at] ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: Need label legend help in VW 10
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 21:20:10 -0700


On Aug 1, 2005, at 7:22 PM, Noah Price wrote:

> Maybe a future Vectorworks could have an outline type for text 
> (square, rounded edges, etc) that expands with the text! :-)  (maybe 
> that would get me to upgrade from 9? no, but more automated text 
> alignment across symbols would!)
>
What does "more automated text alignment across symbols" mean?

Sam

Samuel L. Jones
Developer of AutoPlotVW and AutoPlot Tools for SpotLight
sjones [at] arts.ucla.edu

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From: Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
Subject: Re: Need label legend help in VW 10
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 21:52:20 -0700


On Aug 1, 2005, at 9:20 PM, Samuel Jones wrote:

> What does "more automated text alignment across symbols" mean?

With a row of instruments along a pipe, it's difficult to get all  
unit's labels (i.e. the dimmer/circuit/color labels) aligned across  
the pipe if the symbols were slightly different sizes so they didn't  
align naturally. For example, trying to align all the dimmer labels  
in a row when there are both back and side pointing instruments. Or,  
very different size instruments like Source4 PARs on a pipe with  
Source4s.

(Like I mentioned, I'm still on 9.X so I may be missing more recent  
improvements to help this)

Thanks,

Noah

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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 22:27:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Recommendations on Assistive Listening
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> My FM setup has receivers with earbuds, and also tele-loops that plug in
> instead of the earbuds - no fuss, no muss, no hassle...

I have teleloops for our IR setup. But if the hearing aid does not have
the t-coil, then the loops don't gain anything.

Bill


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