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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #480

 1. Re: More about turntables
    by "Matthew Breton" <theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com>
 2. Re: Boston Opera House
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
 3. Re: Turntable opinions wanted
    by "H-High-S (Ferreira, Jr.)" <viceroy1 [at] naisp.net>
 4. Re: Turntable opinions
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 5. Boston Opera House
    by b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
 6. Re: Turntable opinions wanted
    by "Bryan H. Ackler" <backler [at] ix.netcom.com>
 7. turntable options
    by "RODOK!!!" <rodok [at] telus.net>
 8. Job Posting - Props Assistant / Buyer
    by "Fred Schoening, Jr." <bigfred [at] mindspring.com>
 9. Re: DMX controlled relays
    by Nathan Kahn <nathan.kahn [at] gmail.com>
10. Canadian Arts Funding (was: Turntable question)
    by "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" <chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca>
11. Make fire from water
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
12. Re: DMX controlled relays
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
13. Re: DMX controlled relays
    by "Chris Warner" <bearz2 [at] cox.net>
14. Re: DMX controlled relays
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

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From: "Matthew Breton" <theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: More about turntables
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 07:48:50 -0400

>My thanks to all that have proffered opinions about turntables in high
>school. I neglected to mention earlier that it is the unidentifieable
>entity known as "the administration", not the architect nor the lone
>drama teacher, that wants the turntable. The reason behind their
>thirst is because they had seen a play at another school whre a
>turntable had been built for the show and thought something like "Gee,
>that's cool! I'll have one of those for my new building!"

...but, despite all the negative comments about acquiring such an expensive 
beast, you really can't turn to the administration and say, "Sorry, but it's 
just not cool enough to be worth the expense."

So, out of curiosity, what's the official rationalization for it?  Is it on 
paper anywhere?  Because sooner or later, that's the justification you're 
going to have to provide.


-- Matt

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Subject: RE: Boston Opera House
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 09:40:18 -0400
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C8A6 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> http://www.boston.com/ae/theater_arts/articles/2005/08/04/mayo
r_fighting
_effort_to_rename_opera_house/


Or you can use http://tinyurl.com/box9m.

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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050805083321.01bbd3f8 [at] mail.kingphilip.org>
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 09:50:30 -0400
From: "H-High-S (Ferreira, Jr.)" <viceroy1 [at] naisp.net>
Subject: RE: Turntable opinions wanted

Frank:

Construction has begun here for our new 900 seat theatre to replace our 
old, worn-out 562 seat auditorium.  During the architectural design and 
"wish-list" planning phase, I worked with the theatre consultant  (Alan 
Symonds) hired by the architects (Dore & Whittier).  Alan's job was not 
only to specify what was best needed for the new facility but also to 
dissuade the architects (and me!) from exceeding the budget we had to 
spend, especially on items that were excessive and unnecessary for a high 
school facility, regardless of how performing arts-oriented we are.  Hence, 
I was rightfully disabused of the idea that would ever need a permanent 
in-house stock of robotic fixtures (MAC 2000s were in my wish list),  the 
cost of which would have easily tripled the lighting budget to limited 
practical purpose for our tech theatre program.

The "need" for a permanent $75K turntable in a high school facility is, to 
put it bluntly, ludicrous.  You describe the overall project as already 
being over budget, so where is this extra funding coming from?  Having 
experienced the gutting of the "wish list" in order to bring the cost of 
our project down, I doubt that I could have made a convincing argument for 
a motorized turntable on my new stage given the fact that I couldn't even 
get  open space built under the new stage for storage (and it's being built 
over an old boiler room and basement storage facility that's already 
existing!).  The architect needs a shot of reality.  You are the consultant 
and, as a tech person, you have to be the reality check just as tech 
directors are reality checks to all kinds of designers and their flights of 
fancy.  If there is really another $75K to be had, put it towards good 
communications, lighting and audio gear or outfit a shop with the best, 
most reliable equipment that can be gotten.  When we need a turntable 
(about once every five years), we borrow a manual one from our partner 
college, Rhode Island College.  Any school in that much need of one for a 
show can very likely find one to bring in, assemble, use, and return 
it.  Like the MAC 2000s I originally wanted, if I need some for some 
application, I can find them and it won't cost me $75K to do it, either.  I 
think this one is a no-brainer.  Just say no to TT.

Joe Ferreira

Joseph J. Ferreira, Jr.
Department of History & Social Sciences
  & Director, KP Drama & GAPS
King Philip Regional High School
201 Franklin Street
Wrentham, MA 02093-2404
(508) 384-1000
E-mail: ferreiraj [at] kingphilip.org
Web site: http://fac.kingphilip.org/~ferreiraj 


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Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 04:57:55 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re:  Turntable opinions
Message-id: <002801c599ce$10254d80$c6354104 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p>
References: <list-24050505 [at] prxy.net>

<<I can think of a long list of reasons to delete the turntable.  Can
anyone provide a list of five reason why it should be kept in, please?>>

A permanent semi operational revole sounds lke a great idea.  Are they
recommending the moveable center / variable diameter model?

Not to push the concept too far but maybe the administration might want
install a permanent "set" as well.  Just about every show needs one.

Laters,

Paul

"How come my clock only makes 'toc's?" Tom asked mystically.



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Message-ID: <20050805152514.95899.qmail [at] web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 08:25:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Boston Opera House
In-Reply-To: <list-24050505 [at] prxy.net>

>>Since this venue gets mention fairly often I thought
this may be of
interest.

http://www.boston.com/ae/theater_arts/articles/2005/08/04/mayor_fighting
_effort_to_rename_opera_house/<<

The article says that Clear Channel sold the naming
rights to Citizens Bank. When are "they" going to
learn that this is insulting and fools no one? I
understand selling the naming rights of a new stadium,
but come-on folks. I can see it now....
The newly named Cadillac Lincoln memorial, The Walmart
National Cemetery, The AT&T USS Constitution... Gosh
we could erase the National Debt if we just sold the
naming rights to all the local and national landmarks.
Clear Channel=evil. Sorry Rant over.
 

Brian Rice 
508-685-0716
b_ricie [at] yahoo.com
"Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the 
light."


		
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Message-ID: <42F38697.5050604 [at] ix.netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 08:32:39 -0700
From: "Bryan H. Ackler" <backler [at] ix.netcom.com>
Organization: Va. Tech - Vassar - USITT - NTHP
Subject: Re: Turntable opinions wanted
References: <list-24050505 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-24050505 [at] prxy.net>

The most important reason of all:

1. Something to put on the "chopping block" at the
    last budget cut meeting.


Bryan H. Ackler
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503.246.2165 home office            503.313.6620 cell
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:51:34 -0500
From: "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] tcon.net>
Subject: Turntable opinions wanted

Howdy !

I'm consulting for an architect that has been asked to include a
permanent motorized turntable in the center of the stage in a modest
sized High School he is renovating.
{snip}
Can anyone provide a list of five reason why it should be kept in, please?

Best regards,
   Frank E. Merrill
   MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT
   Indianapolis
   Established 1946
   www.merrillstage.com          mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net
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Message-ID: <42F3B097.4020608 [at] telus.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 12:31:51 -0600
From: "RODOK!!!" <rodok [at] telus.net>
Subject: turntable options

I don't have an installed turntable, and see little need for one except 
that I am currently designing a HS production of "Les Mis." I have the 
Yale Tech design, are there other economical, not necessarily motorized 
designs out there? Renting works too, as long as it is within scope.
Please drop me a line off list if you have some ideas that may work for us.
Thanks
Rod Osiowy
Wild Theatre
Cranbrook, BC

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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 15:29:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Fred Schoening, Jr." <bigfred [at] mindspring.com>
Reply-To: "Fred Schoening, Jr." <bigfred [at] mindspring.com>
Subject: Job Posting - Props Assistant / Buyer

Howdy, Folks! Another job post, but this time it's for us! Our lovely and talented Props 
Assistant / Buyer Andria has decided to move on, so we're looking for a replacement. 
Here's the ad:

Properties Assistant / Buyer - Dallas Theatre Center, LORT C producing 6 shows, seeks 
qualified buyer and artisan to be the Assistant Properties Master for the 2005-2006 
season and beyond.  Candidate should be an enthusiastic shopper with a knack for 
finding obscure props, have a great telephone attitude, internet experience, and possess 
a positive, energetic nature.  Must have excellent skills in a wide variety of property 
creation, with an emphasis on soft goods, upholstery, research, paper goods, and crafts. 
Must have experience with Photoshop and computer graphics. Own vehicle preferred.  
Full-time seasonal, starting immediately.  Competitive salary and benefits.  Letter, 
resume, and references to:  Rick Gilles, Properties Master, DALLAS THEATER CENTER, 
3636 Turtle Creek Blvd., Dallas, TX 75219-5598.  Fax: 214-922-0430. Email  
rick.gilles [at] dallastheatercenter.org  EOE - Women and minorities strongly encouraged 
to apply.


Thanks,

"Big Fred" Schoening
Technical Director
Dallas Theater Center
Dallas, Texas, USA

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Message-ID: <77fad32705080513176e529878 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 16:17:32 -0400
From: Nathan Kahn <nathan.kahn [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Nathan Kahn <nathan.kahn [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DMX controlled relays
In-Reply-To: <list-24040016 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-24037930 [at] prxy.net> <list-24039633 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-24040016 [at] prxy.net>

Meteor makes a DMX Relay with a mechanical relay inside.  This is
useful for inductive loads that require immediate full current, for
example the confetti cannons that fire by puncturing a small CO2
cylinder with a pin.

http://www.meteor-usa.com/Meteor-Universal-DMX-Relay.html

FYI,
Nathan

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Message-ID: <297C9E3B63B2D3119C8100508B5ED28F16020187 [at] exchange2.ubc.ca>
From: "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" <chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca>
Subject: Canadian Arts Funding (was: Turntable question)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 20:28:27 -0700 

> Subject: RE: Turntable opinions wanted
> From: "Davis, Thomas J" <TJDavis [at] westshore.edu>
> 
> 5- preparing students to work in civilized societies with publicly >supported theaters- (in case they move to Europe or Canada), I think you have 75,000 reasons not to.
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^
Ha ha ha ha, hee hee hee hee hhohohohohoho ROFLMAO

<wiping tears from eyes> oh thank for that comment about publicly funded arts in Canada.

I needed that laugh.  Unfortunately it came before Dimmer Rack 1 (of 3) decided to not pay attention to the DMX.


Andrew M. Riter
Head Lighting Technician
Chan Centre

 

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Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 01:56:41 -0400
Subject: Make fire from water
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF19C959.61CB%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>

No harmful exhaust.

Saw this on slashdot thought I would share

<http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/home/make-fire-from-water-116027.php>

This could be a lot of fun onstage.


-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 23:06:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: DMX controlled relays
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> On Subject of DMX controller relays, anyone ever see a device that will
> allow changing dimmer/circuit patches remotely from a DMX console?  May
> sound funny, but I happen to run into this often when working in smaller
> venues.

Nope. I detest making hard patch changes during a performance.

With the low cost of portable DMX dimmer packs that are available, there
is really no need for hard patch changes. This assumes that you have
sufficient 20 amp circuits for the packs.

I always take half a dozen of them with me, whenever I go to do a lighting
gig somewhere. They often get used and it gives me dimmers that many
smaller venues are lacking.

Bill


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Message-ID: <02fe01c59a4e$6fc5ae80$6401a8c0 [at] chris>
From: "Chris Warner" <bearz2 [at] cox.net>
References: <list-24037930 [at] prxy.net> <list-24039633 [at] prxy.net> <list-24064311 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: DMX controlled relays
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 23:16:52 -0700

Well, unfortunetly a lot of the spaces are work in are high-high delta
configurations, and teh center tapped leg is often OVER taxed already with
what is installed.  Would be so easy to change a special with a light cue,
at least I think so.  Perhaps if the interest is there I could build it.  Oh
well, It's a thought.

Chris

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: DMX controlled relays


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>
> > On Subject of DMX controller relays, anyone ever see a device that will
> > allow changing dimmer/circuit patches remotely from a DMX console?  May
> > sound funny, but I happen to run into this often when working in smaller
> > venues.
>
> Nope. I detest making hard patch changes during a performance.
>
> With the low cost of portable DMX dimmer packs that are available, there
> is really no need for hard patch changes. This assumes that you have
> sufficient 20 amp circuits for the packs.
>
> I always take half a dozen of them with me, whenever I go to do a lighting
> gig somewhere. They often get used and it gives me dimmers that many
> smaller venues are lacking.
>
> Bill
>
>
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 00:12:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: DMX controlled relays
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> Well, unfortunetly a lot of the spaces are work in are high-high delta
> configurations, and teh center tapped leg is often OVER taxed already with
> what is installed.  Would be so easy to change a special with a light cue,
> at least I think so.  Perhaps if the interest is there I could build it.
> Oh well, It's a thought.

I don't recommend it, especially for a long run, but there is an option.
Although the load is inductive, it has not hurt my house dimmers on the
few occasions that I have done this.

Run a regular 2400 watt dimmer as a non-dim and plug a 4 dimmer portable
pack into that circuit. You can then configure the dimmer pack as either
four 600 watt dimmers, two 1200 watt dimmers or a single 2400 watt dimmer.

By plugging two of the dimmer packs into that original dimmer, you then
have even more freedom. You just need to be careful to not go over 2400
watts total.

Soft patch the dimmer packs into your board configuration, hook up the
control cable and enjoy the extra dimmers.

Has anyone else done this?

Bill




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