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Re: Audio Power Sequencer by "Davis, Thomas J" 2. Re: Audio Power Sequencer by "Jeffrey Kanyuck" 3. Turntable installations solicited please by "Frank E. Merrill" 4. Re: Audio Power Sequencer by Howard Ires 5. Re: Audio Power Sequencer by "Michael Finney" 6. Re: Metal fumes fever by "Michael Finney" 7. Re: Turntable installations solicited please by Michael Drury 8. Re: Turntable installations solicited please by Dale Farmer 9. Re: Turntable installations solicited please by "Jon Ares" 10. Re: Audio Power Sequencer by Kurt Cypher 11. painting cobblestones on stage by "Joe Golden" 12. Re: cellphone gas ignition by CB 13. Re: cellphone gas ignition by Mike Brubaker 14. Audio Power Sequencer by CB 15. Re: Audio Power Sequencer by CB 16. Re: cellphone gas ignition by "Jerry Dougherty" 17. Re: painting cobblestones on stage by Steve Larson 18. Re: Audio Power Sequencer by Steve Larson 19. Re: painting cobblestones on stage by "Matthew Breton" 20. Re: painting cobblestones on stage by Kevin Lowry 21. Re: Audio Power Sequencer by "Randy Whitcomb" 22. Re: painting cobblestones on stage by Delbert Hall 23. Re: Turntable installations solicited please by "RD" 24. Re: Turntable installations solicited please by "Robert G. Anderson" 25. Re: Turntable installations solicited please by Mark O'Brien 26. Re: painting cobblestones on stage by "Maurice Moe Conn" 27. "Wicked" San Francisco Tour Stop by Mat Goebel 28. Re: Turntable installations solicited please by rwhitco [at] comcast.net *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Audio Power Sequencer Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:27:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3CF87682970858499CA56707FB1F092B0A921A [at] wscc-s-003000.westshore.edu> From: "Davis, Thomas J" ______________________________________________________________________ The crux of it is this: No one who has not been trained and tested in=20 writing (and hands-on) should be touching any of your equipment. PERIOD.......... =20 Kristi ______________________________________________________________________ I'm sure you are preaching to the choir, Kristi. Unfortunately, the choir does not include the faculty and administrators at this college, or many other colleges and most high schools in my experience. While everything is under lock and key, I'm not the only one with a key. In my own case, I can trust the AV guy, but my own boss can make a royal mess of things in the booth. Not to mention what happens when they rent the facility out for a corporate meeting. Or when the local junior high gets access to do their play because the locals won't vote a bond issue for an auditorium (nothing to worry about there, their teachers are "supervising" them). Of course, I am welcome to "volunteer" my time to oversee things that happen outside the 16 hours a day I am here anyway. Over the last 6 years, "unauthorized" operators and equipment loans between them have cost us 1 power amp, 1 wireless base station, 2 transmitter packs, 2 mics (missing in action), untold cables, 1 speaker cone, and a crossover. Not to mention the time I take resetting the EQ (I gotta get a cage for that thing).=20 The lightboard, luckily, has a key, which is on my person, and the spare is kept by Dick Cheney in a secure, undisclosed location. The usual conversation goes: "Tom, we pushed every button we could find on the board, and it still doesn't work...." Unfortunately, with our sound equipment, if you push all the buttons randomly, eventually all the pilot lights will light up. So, I am in the market for a power up sequencer as well, hopefully before the fall semester is underway.=20 Heck, just last week, I had to child proof the scene shop (program they run for 10-15 yr. olds in the summer). Tom D ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:55:07 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Kanyuck" Subject: Re: Audio Power Sequencer Here where I work we use the Atlas Soundolier power sequencer SACS-1, with two of the SACS-191. Love them. The only problem is the SACS-1 which is the rack mounted front panel with the push button switch for powering everything up and down in order ALSO has a switch on it to turn of the SACS-1 unit itself, which will then turn off absolutely everthing controlled by that unit at the same time. I've removed that switch. I've seen others tape it over or build a small metal tab over it. Jeff Kanyuck Technical Director Harford Community College 401 Thomas Run Road Bel Air, MD 21015 410-836-4369 Office 410-322-5905 Cellphone jkanyuck [at] harford.edu I'm sure you are preaching to the choir, Kristi. Unfortunately, the choir does not include the faculty and administrators at this college, or many other colleges and most high schools in my experience. While everything is under lock and key, I'm not the only one with a key. In my own case, I can trust the AV guy, but my own boss can make a royal mess of things in the booth. Not to mention what happens when they rent the facility out for a corporate meeting. Or when the local junior high gets access to do their play because the locals won't vote a bond issue for an auditorium (nothing to worry about there, their teachers are "supervising" them). Of course, I am welcome to "volunteer" my time to oversee things that happen outside the 16 hours a day I am here anyway. Over the last 6 years, "unauthorized" operators and equipment loans between them have cost us 1 power amp, 1 wireless base station, 2 transmitter packs, 2 mics (missing in action), untold cables, 1 speaker cone, and a crossover. Not to mention the time I take resetting the EQ (I gotta get a cage for that thing). The lightboard, luckily, has a key, which is on my person, and the spare is kept by Dick Cheney in a secure, undisclosed location. The usual conversation goes: "Tom, we pushed every button we could find on the board, and it still doesn't work...." Unfortunately, with our sound equipment, if you push all the buttons randomly, eventually all the pilot lights will light up. So, I am in the market for a power up sequencer as well, hopefully before the fall semester is underway. Heck, just last week, I had to child proof the scene shop (program they run for 10-15 yr. olds in the summer). Tom D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:45:11 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <712497810.20050811094511 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Turntable installations solicited please Howdy ! Thank you all for your input concerning the turntable desired by the school personnel at a school for which I am consulting. We had a very productive meeting yesterday and the short result is that the administration and the theatre personnel really do want their turntable regardless of cost or reason. Therefore, I turn to the wise oracles again: Kindly let me know of any private or public high school in the United States that has or once had a permanently installed turntable in their stage. If they had one but presently do not, kindly offer an opinion of why, please. Please let me know of venues that own one but install it only as needed. Please do not include venues that rent one. Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42FB6BFD.4050507 [at] hillinteractive.net> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:17:17 -0400 From: Howard Ires Subject: Re: Audio Power Sequencer References: In-Reply-To: Matthew Breton wrote: > So, yes: I'd like to get a system that makes it fairly foolproof. can't be done. the fools are too smart. ------------------H ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Audio Power Sequencer Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:46:29 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Michael Finney" <> There are no daft questions, only....oh, wait..... Good questions TD, but we put them in quite a few systems to make them = as idiot proof as possible (the problem is the idiots are soooo darned = clever). In a lot of cases, our gear is going into installations where = the operating personnel are likely to range anywhere between very, very = good and "somebody tell the janitor to go turn on the museum displays" = (literally). Power sequencers are an added cost, but we think they pay = for themselves in reduced "accidents" over the life of the gear. I especially like them in systems with any kind of automated control or = playback components, as using the power sequencer insures that the = "brains" are operating before anything else is (we use all sorts of = other methods in cases where safety is involved). Now if I could only = find a device to install in my own head to make sure that the brain was = operating first... Oh, yeah - I've been spec'ing in the Furman PowerPorts for most = applications, although I just used a bunch of the Middle Atlantic units = and had no problems with them (not quite as flexible in regards to = timing as the Furmans, but they were a lot cheaper...) Michael Finney Thinkwell Design & Production mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com www.thinkwelldesign.com =A0 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Metal fumes fever Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:57:16 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Michael Finney" On 8/10/2005, Dale wrote: <> Synchronicity is alive and well! Not really on the topic, but maybe of = interest to somebody: I've been looking at ventilation requirements for a metal fab area on a = project, and called a friend who runs the production welding line for a = large motorcycle manufacturer's newest plant. They set up the line just = before self-darkening welders masks had become really affordable. They = started to find an increase in reported headaches and symptoms = consistent with variants of metal fumes fever (I don't think I've ever = heard the term twice in one day)...after a little investigation, they = found that people who were using self darkening shades were more prone = to this...a little more investigation, and they determined that the = culprit was that users of self darkening shades were not raising their = helmets as often, and were actually getting an increased buildup of = fumes under the helmet (tiny, tiny little bits of fumes that had always = just vented away when the mask was raised). The added some low level = fans to increase air flow from below the welder and the incidence went = back to the old (almost nonexistent) levels. Just something else to think about when setting up a welding area....and = now I'm going to pay more attention to how long I wear my mask when I = weld...... Michael Finney Thinkwell Design & Production mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com www.thinkwelldesign.com =A0 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42FB862C.9000307 [at] peoplepc.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:09:00 -0500 From: Michael Drury Subject: Re: Turntable installations solicited please References: In-Reply-To: Frank, Sorry I missed your original post. I live in Indpls. Please feel free to contact me off list and I can give you names of locals that might be able to help you out. Michael Drury ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42FB8F0B.2E95D5E2 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:46:51 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Turntable installations solicited please References: "Frank E. Merrill" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Howdy ! > > Thank you all for your input concerning the turntable desired by the > school personnel at a school for which I am consulting. We had a very > productive meeting yesterday and the short result is that the > administration and the theatre personnel really do want their > turntable regardless of cost or reason. > > Therefore, I turn to the wise oracles again: > > Kindly let me know of any private or public high school in the United > States that has or once had a permanently installed turntable in their > stage. If they had one but presently do not, kindly offer an opinion > of why, please. Please let me know of venues that own one but install > it only as needed. Please do not include venues that rent one. Write a cover-your-ass letter saying that it is excessive, and being included against your advice, and make them sign it as part of a change order on the contract. And I have never run into a high school that has a turntable. Damn few colleges either. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000f01c59e9d$b87533f0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Turntable installations solicited please Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:54:29 -0700 > And I have never run into a high school that > has a turntable. Damn few colleges either. I know of one high school in the Portland, OR USA area that does - St. Marys (private) downtown. Don't know when the revolve was built - long, long ago, though. The stage dates back to the 30's or 40's. The revolve did spend many years broken, but eventually they got the money to fix it. The director (who's no longer there) used it many times - I think people got sick of it, personally. Every show had a 'turntable' moment for a while. The theatre just had a renovation recently (made the place even smaller), but I don't know if the revolve still exists. (The stage was never that large to begin with - it had a small pit that was condemned at one point - it was under the apron, and there were grates (looked like drains) - not a removable cover. Very 'period' looking space... as I said, early 40's I think.) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:54:44 -0400 From: Kurt Cypher Subject: Re: Audio Power Sequencer In-reply-to: Message-id: <42FB90E4.7080801 [at] cyphernet.homedns.org> References: Howard Ires wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Matthew Breton wrote: > >> So, yes: I'd like to get a system that makes it fairly foolproof. > > > can't be done. the fools are too smart. > > ------------------H Like I've been saying for years, make something idiot-proof, and the world will build a better idiot. Works the same for fools. Kurt ------------------------------ Subject: painting cobblestones on stage Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:13:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" Trying to find an easy way to paint a 20' x 40' area with cobbles for a high school show. =20 Joe Golden ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050811121108.00cf84d8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:11:08 From: CB Subject: Re: cellphone gas ignition >Better yet, join the Brits and a few >others and drive on the left side >of the road. No, silly, then we'd just have clockwise tornados. Half the people drive on the right, the other half should drive on the left to cancel it out! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050811142642.03e25ea8 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:27:17 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: cellphone gas ignition In-Reply-To: References: That would solve the overpopulation problem, too.. Mike At 07:11 AM 8/11/2005, CB wrote: >No, silly, then we'd just have clockwise tornados. Half the people drive >on the right, the other half should drive on the left to cancel it out! ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050811122646.00cf84d8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:26:46 From: CB Subject: Audio Power Sequencer >I'm looking to get a power sequencer for my audio equipment. It would turn >speakers, amps, mixers, etc. on and off in the proper sequence. >My research has only come up with one model, by Furman, and fairly expensive >at that. Does anyone have a particular favorite? (Chris Babbie?) My alltime fave is the still the sound engineer. Automation is all good and things, but if you can't trust the person that you have turning the gear on and off, you need to find another person. Other than that, it really doesn't matter. I like to turn the amps off, one at a time, and listen, or watch, depenidng on the amp, for the caps to dissipate before moving on to other things. Knowing that the disc is out of the CD player, etc all play a part to having a thinking, knowledgeable human make these decisions. I'm guessing that you want the sequencer to protect the gear? All the more reason to have someone who knows what is what have control. If the gear is in jeapordy, you should have a human with knowledge and skills on the task. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050811123216.00cf84d8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:32:16 From: CB Subject: Re: Audio Power Sequencer >Patrick explained that when we book a group we charge them by the minute and ask them how long the show will be then we set the sound system on a timer. The guy was impressed at how close we had timed the show. !?!?! I dunno how good I'd feel about it if my show ran a few minutes long and your system bailed during the climactic conclusion. Or if it had a glitch. I'm sure it would *not* be a -rated rant, though. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jerry Dougherty" Subject: Re: cellphone gas ignition Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:53:42 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: -Sinp- > Better yet, ban gas. That will really > screw up the oil companies, the Arab > States, and a lot more. I've been to Saudi Arabia twice in the last year on "Official Business" and I can say that with all confidence that ther's not much more we can do that they haven't already done to themselves. Go juice or no go juice, it's still like a Mad Max movie there, complete with crazy Aussie expats. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:50:48 -0400 Subject: Re: painting cobblestones on stage From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: You don't say who's painting. With high school students, I would start with the negative space- the mortar (earth) in between. Base coat and spatter some texture. For the stones, take a large sheet of lauan or cardboard and draw out the stones. Cut out the stones and use the cutout simply to draw in the outlines of the stones on the floor. Handpaint each stone individually. With several artists with mixed abilities, have them randomly paint stones- a few here, a few there. This way you won't set up a pattern of great stones here, poor stones there, and OK stones in between. This will give them a great variety. Select a test panel that can be done to show them highlight and shadow techniques. They then can practice a few and then attack the real thing. If you have only one artist, forget most of the previous random crap. Steve > From: "Joe Golden" > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:13:39 -0700 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: painting cobblestones on stage > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Trying to find an easy way to paint a 20' x 40' area with cobbles for a > high school show. > > > Joe Golden > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:51:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Audio Power Sequencer From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Whether he was pulling their leg or whether you could actually set up the system like that, it's a great story. Steve > From: CB > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:32:16 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Audio Power Sequencer > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Patrick explained that when we book a group we charge them by the minute > and ask them how long the show will be then we set the sound system on a > timer. The guy was impressed at how close we had timed the show. > > !?!?! I dunno how good I'd feel about it if my show ran a few minutes long > and your system bailed during the climactic conclusion. Or if it had a > glitch. I'm sure it would *not* be a -rated rant, though. > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ > > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: RE: painting cobblestones on stage Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:04:12 -0400 If you want real depth, cut cobblestone tops out of 1/4" lauan. Paint a second sheet of lauan whatever base color you want; paint all the cobblestones and fasten them to the base sheet. Instant 4' x 8' sheet of cobblestones. This technique is especially handy if the cobblestones need to follow a particular outline (to work around flats, platforms, or set pieces.) Although this adds a lot of detail, expect anyone in bare feet or high heels to worry themselves to death. As an alternative, paint your regular stage floor to the base color you want, then create a stencil frame -- I sometimes use a frame of 1x3 faced with chicken wire, with lauan cutouts in the shape I want (brick, cobblestone, whatever) attached to the chicken wire. You may want to experiment and see if it works better to make a cutout of the negative of the shape you want -- the mortar rather than the brick facing, for example. Make the frame as large as you feel is reasonable; if it's too small, the pattern will grow repetitious. Schedule some time to go in and do touch-ups to break up the repetition regardless. Take pictures. Expect the floor to get walked, danced, and soft-drink-spilled-on on the first day of tech rehearsals. Hope that helps ... let us know how it turns out! -- Matt ======== _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <5a73bd8d05081113174ec35055 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:17:56 -0400 From: Kevin Lowry Subject: Re: painting cobblestones on stage In-Reply-To: References: Rosco also has a step by step guide to difffrent surfaces that could be hel= pful http://rosco.com/us/technotes/scenic/index.asp Kevin ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000401c59ebf$22968880$6501a8c0 [at] D4D3R151> From: "Randy Whitcomb" References: Subject: Re: Audio Power Sequencer Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:53:39 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "CB" > !?!?! I dunno how good I'd feel about it if my show ran a few minutes long > and your system bailed during the climactic conclusion. Or if it had a > glitch. I'm sure it would *not* be a -rated rant, though. I guess I wasn't clear enough. He was joking. Our sequencers take about 3 minutes to fully cycle. After he turned the key he began the conversation then the board shut off while he was speaking. Randy Whitcomb, TD Price Civic Aud. Loveland, CO. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:12:57 -0400 From: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: painting cobblestones on stage In-Reply-To: References: To do it quickly and easily, I would make four or five stamps from foam (with a plywood backing for stiffness). Put each one on a 42" long pole so that the "artists" do not have to bend over to stamp their stones. make up several stone colors for the artist to randomly choose. You should be able to get the stones stamped onto the floor in no time. -Delbert On 8/11/05, Kevin Lowry wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Rosco also has a step by step guide to difffrent surfaces that could be h= elpful >=20 > http://rosco.com/us/technotes/scenic/index.asp >=20 > Kevin >=20 --=20 Delbert Hall Phone: 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ From: "RD" Subject: RE: Turntable installations solicited please Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:59:29 -0600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And one or two or three in one theater, high school, civic center, all in one, just outside of Phoenix. I inspected them. Very interesting. Doom They have been there for over twenty years. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jon Ares Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:54 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Turntable installations solicited please For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > And I have never run into a high school that > has a turntable. Damn few colleges either. I know of one high school in the Portland, OR USA area that does - St. Marys (private) downtown. Don't know when the revolve was built - long, long ago, though. The stage dates back to the 30's or 40's. The revolve did spend many years broken, but eventually they got the money to fix it. The director (who's no longer there) used it many times - I think people got sick of it, personally. Every show had a 'turntable' moment for a while. The theatre just had a renovation recently (made the place even smaller), but I don't know if the revolve still exists. (The stage was never that large to begin with - it had a small pit that was condemned at one point - it was under the apron, and there were grates (looked like drains) - not a removable cover. Very 'period' looking space... as I said, early 40's I think.) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000901c59eca$acfd7000$0f413b45 [at] Anderson> From: "Robert G. Anderson" References: Subject: Re: Turntable installations solicited please Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:16:09 -0500 At the University of Northern Colorado, in the Theater in Frasier Hall (Now the Langworthy Theatre, I think) a new theatre was built in 1952 or so with a revolving stage built in. Worked we while I was a student (through 1957.) But I have no idea if it's still in use or not....sorry...Bob ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Turntable installations solicited please Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:30:03 -0700 A permanent turntable is not where I would choose to put the money. That being said, if the Owner/Customer wants a turntable for whatever reason, what would be the reason for shooting down the idea? If they pay to have it designed, built, and installed properly, what is the harm. You have given them the positives, and the negatives of the project. Your have done your job, and what they decide to do with that information would be their business. If you alienate them now, you will have NO input as to how the turntable gets built. Then they A: Get a turntable, and B: Get a shitty turntable. My opinion only... Mark-O Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Aug 11, 2005, at 7:45 AM, Frank E. Merrill wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Howdy ! > > Thank you all for your input concerning the turntable desired by the > school personnel at a school for which I am consulting. We had a very > productive meeting yesterday and the short result is that the > administration and the theatre personnel really do want their > turntable regardless of cost or reason. > > Therefore, I turn to the wise oracles again: > > Kindly let me know of any private or public high school in the United > States that has or once had a permanently installed turntable in their > stage. If they had one but presently do not, kindly offer an opinion > of why, please. Please let me know of venues that own one but install > it only as needed. Please do not include venues that rent one. > > Best regards, > Frank E. Merrill > MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT > Indianapolis > Established 1946 > www.merrillstage.com mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Maurice Moe Conn" Cc: Joe [at] elslights.com Subject: RE: painting cobblestones on stage Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 00:07:52 +0000 I agree start with the negative space. Basecoat, then spatter for depth, (a Hudson/garden sprayer works pretty good for this as long as you thin and strain paint prior to putting it in the sprayer) Then get some knee pads (for the knees) and several sponges and pound out stones. Various colors on each stone will give depth and build in highlight and shadow, being careful not to make mud. You can then add more highlights and shadow to get directionality later. I find with a few same shaped stones or a stencil, no matter how hard I try, I get a repeating pattern. Last I find doing the above works best after rehearsal or on a Saturday or Sunday when I know I will have the space without interrupted. hth Moe Moe Conn Designer/TD University of the Cumberlands mconn [at] cumberlandcollege.edu 606-539-4520 Long Reach Long Riders announce dates for the 2006 Charity Ride. Check out www.sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html for more information. >From: "Joe Golden" >Reply-To: "Stagecraft" >To: "Stagecraft" >Subject: painting cobblestones on stage >Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:13:39 -0700 > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Trying to find an easy way to paint a 20' x 40' area with cobbles for a >high school show. > > >Joe Golden ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:25:11 -0700 From: Mat Goebel Cc: theatre-sound [at] listserv.aol.com (theatre sound) Subject: "Wicked" San Francisco Tour Stop Hey all, Is anyone with the Wicked tour that's in San Francisco right now? I'm seeing the evening performance on the 27th and would love to talk to anyone about the show. Shoot me an email off-list. Thanks for the bandwidth! --=20 Mat Goebel Audio Engineer / Sound Designer www.matgoebel.com Mobile: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ From: rwhitco [at] comcast.net Subject: Re: Turntable installations solicited please Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 04:22:16 +0000 Message-Id: <081220050422.25396.42FC23F8000226EF000063342200761438010C9B0708999D [at] comcast.net> Yes it is. Or was a couple of years ago according to one of my former students who was there. > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > At the University of Northern Colorado, in the Theater in Frasier Hall (Now > the Langworthy Theatre, I think) a new theatre was built in 1952 or so with > a revolving stage built in. Worked we while I was a student (through 1957.) > But I have no idea if it's still in use or not....sorry...Bob > > > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #486 *****************************