Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 24249521; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 03:00:26 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #491 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 03:00:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, SARE_ADULT2 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #491 1. Re: Berkeley (Lee) Colortran Parts Search by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 2. Re: Berkeley (Lee) Colortran Parts Search by "Davis, Thomas J" 3. Re: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 4. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two by Joseph Champelli 5. Re: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search by Bruce Purdy 6. Re: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 7. Re: Turntable Shmurmtable by Joseph Champelli 8. Re: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search by Stephen Litterst 9. Re: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search by Bruce Purdy 10. Re: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 11. Re: Turntable installations solicited please by Wood Chip-P26398 12. (2) ETC Source 4 Revolutions for sale by "Dan Heerts" 13. Re: Moving Lights by June Abernathy 14. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two by "C. Dopher" 15. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two by Mark O'Brien 16. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two by "Paul Schreiner" 17. Re: Turntable installations solicited please by "Steven Haworth" 18. Podcast audio setup (a little OT) by "C. Dopher" 19. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two by Ty 20. Mold by Shell Dalzell 21. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two by Dale Farmer 22. Re: Mold by Mat Goebel 23. Re: Mold by Dale Farmer 24. Re: Mold by "RD" 25. Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies by CB 26. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies by Scott Parker 27. Re: Audio Power Sequencer by CB 28. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies by "Occy" 29. Re: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search by Paul Puppo 30. job opportunity at the Cowell Theater in San Francisco by Paul Puppo 31. Re: Berkeley (Lee) Colortran Parts Search by Paul Puppo 32. Re: Mold by usctd [at] columbia.sc 33. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two by Bill Sapsis 34. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two by "Don Taco" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Berkeley (Lee) Colortran Parts Search Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 06:30:14 -0400 Message-ID: <009501c5a24d$81178170$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: What parts does he need? > A friend of mine is curious about the availability of > Berkeley parts (30 degree, 40 degree etc.) > > Anyone have any sources? > > Thanks, > > Paul Puppo > > > ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Berkeley (Lee) Colortran Parts Search Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:15:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3CF87682970858499CA56707FB1F092B0A9220 [at] wscc-s-003000.westshore.edu> From: "Davis, Thomas J" The company is still out there, it was bought out by Leviton (at least the US operations. Try http://www.colortran.com/catalog/lellipse.html (I'm not sure if the link will come through in plain text, you may need to cut and paste into your browser. I bought some with spares from Stage Technology (www.stagetechnology.com I think)in Minneapolis a few years ago, you might try them. Tom D -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey E. Salzberg Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:30 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Berkeley (Lee) Colortran Parts Search For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- What parts does he need? > A friend of mine is curious about the availability of=20 > Berkeley parts (30 degree, 40 degree etc.) >=20 > Anyone have any sources? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Paul Puppo >=20 >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:37:58 -0400 Message-ID: <00ae01c5a267$b9ffd6d0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > The company is still out there, it was bought out by Leviton=20 > (at least the US operations Since the same fixtures (photometrically, at least) were marketed under = the names "Berkey Colortran", "Lee Colortran", and just plain "Colortran", = it always seems to me that it's clearer if we refer to them as "Colortrans" rather than as "Berkeys", but that's just me. The parts that are most likely to be needed are the 4.5"x9" (not 6.5") = lens, the 6"x9" lens, the two field stops, shutters, and the plastic "lens buddies" that hold the glass in the barrel and keep the edges from = chipping. The hardest of these to find is the 4.5" lens. You can order them from Leviton, of course (http://www.colortran.com/catalog/contact.html). When = I need them, I get them from Altman (they use that lens in one of their = follow spots, I think. In any event, one of the advantages of their having = cloned almost every fixture made by other manufacturers is that they tend to = have parts that fit other manufacturers' fixtures). The other parts can be ordered, too, of course, but if you're into DIY: You can make the field stops out of aluminum offset plates, the same = way you'd cut or etch gobos. The lens buddies can be made from plastic aquarium tubing (works well = for Strand and Century, too). I've faked the clips that hold together the shutter assembly plates with binder clips from Staples. You can cannibalize the 6"x9" lens and shutters from old Altman or = Century ellipsoidals, if you have some lying around. It's pretty popular to diss Colortrans these days, but when they're = properly maintained, they're still quite usable fixtures. When they came out in = the late 70s, they were, in a way, the Source 4s of their era -- it was the first serious redesign of the ellipsoidal in several decades and they = were much sharper and brighter than anything else then on the market, and the fact that you could change the field angle as needed was amazing. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <621d2eb0050816064815dd6d65 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:48:42 -0400 From: Joseph Champelli Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two In-Reply-To: References:

Point taken. I was looking at rota-locks as the cheap solution, I'll have to try the clamps from Bill. I think it's worth noting that these are best for situations where you don't intend to change the layout often. In cases where you are changing things, couplers like the Doughty style (also on Bill's site) are much more user friendly.=20 And if you're in a situation where labor =3D $$ then they'll pay off in the long run. Joe On 8/15/05, Mike Katz wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Joe, > Grids are one place that I feel Roto locks are a pain in the butt. > They are a great connector to connect short pipes to long onnes at a > rigid 90, but they are a pain to use with long lengths in enclosed > spaces (like a grid) since one of the pipes needs to slide into the > fitting. I would reccomend the 2 piece grid clamps that bolt together, > also at a rigid 90. they are cheaper and easier for a fixed grid. > Speaking of cheaper, If you do want a rotolock type of device go to > Bill and buy his pipe loop clamps, they are much less expensive thn a > rotolock. The one dowside of them is that they use an allen wrench to > tighten two screws rather than the one hex nut on the original. they > are a bit harder to install, but (IIRC) you can buy three for the cost > of one rotolock. > Mike Katz > MIT Theater Arts TD >=20 >=20 > On 8/15/05, Joseph Champelli wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Point your contractor towards rota-locks. > > Remember 1.5" sched. 40 pipe (1.6" ID 1.9" OD) > > > > rota-locks are easy to use and allow you to create a grid of pipe that > > will be very rigid and yet offer flexibility if you need to add or > > remove sections of pipe. > > > > go here for a picture of a rota-lcok: > > http://www.stage-n-studio.com/Cat_PDF_pages/page19.pdf > > > > here for a price: > > http://spike.pnta.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=3DPROD&Product_Code= =3DURL11%2F2&Category_Code=3DFH&Product_Count=3D10 > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > -- > > Joseph Champelli > > University of Tennessee > > FTSI > > --- > > > > > > > > --- > > Mr Sapsis wrote: > > > > >...There's no reason to re-invent the wheel or to turn something as > > > simple as a > > > grid into a 3-act play. And that's what the Uni-Strut will do. > > > First you > > > will need the right kind of connector. Then it's the spring bolts. > > > Then > > > it's the splices. Lordy, it do get complicated. > > > > > > Go with the pipe. It'll be easy to install and you'll have time for > > > a beer > > > on the back deck at sundown. > > > > > > Hope that helps. > > > Bill S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 --=20 Joseph Champelli University of Tennessee FTSI ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:58:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I have 20 of these instruments that make up my FOH lighting. I despise them! > The lens buddies can be made from plastic aquarium tubing (works well for > Strand and Century, too). > Interesting idea, but how does aquarium tubing hold up to the heat? > It's pretty popular to diss Colortrans these days, I certainly do that on a daily basis. >but when they're properly maintained, they're still quite usable fixtures. Good point, but when they have been poorly maintained (or not at all) all their life, they are miserable. The biggest problem I have is that the lens barrels don't slide properly to focus them. The knob screws into a slider that travels in a track - except that it doesn't - it keeps binding! Is there a way to lubricate those things? (Obviously WD40 is out!) Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:06:27 -0400 Message-ID: <00af01c5a26b$b51e2820$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > > The lens buddies can be made from plastic aquarium tubing > (works well > > for Strand and Century, too). > > > Interesting idea, but how does aquarium tubing hold up to the heat? Surprisingly well. I've never had one go bad. > The biggest problem I have is that the lens barrels don't > slide properly to focus them. The knob screws into a slider > that travels in a track - except that it doesn't - it keeps > binding! Is there a way to lubricate those things? (Obviously > WD40 is out!) The old Century and Strand Lekos had/have the same problem. Cleaning out the 20 years of gunk is a start. (Slightly) loosening the screws and lubricating the slider with silicone spray helps. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <621d2eb005081607073e5fa313 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:07:41 -0400 From: Joseph Champelli Subject: Re: Turntable Shmurmtable In-Reply-To: References: I've read and re-read this post, trying to see if there's a tongue in a cheek somewhere. Regardless of how flat the tire is, the distance from where the flat hits the edge of the wheel (the end of the chord) to the center is the same. Also known as the radius of the circle. Also, torque calcs at the center of the caster only work if you're motorizing the casters themselves. Coefficient of friction is always a factor in turntable torque calcs, but in the case of the flat wheel you need to calculate the amount of force required to lift the turntable over the hump, or basically push it up a ramp the height of which equals the distance from the top quadrant point of the perfect caster to the base of the flat spot.=20 Details on turning that force into rotational motion varies per driving mechanism. Joe On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 13:28:31, CB wrote: > Nope, torque calqs. The corner of the flat side to the center of the > caster multiplied by the weight of the turntable (loaded) divided by numb= er > of casters. > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ --=20 Joseph Champelli University of Tennessee FTSI ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:13:44 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search In-reply-to: Message-id: <4301F497.7040408 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Bruce Purdy wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- >>but when they're properly maintained, they're still quite usable fixtures. > > > Good point, but when they have been poorly maintained (or not at all) all > their life, they are miserable. The same is true for any luminaire. Or shop tool. Or employee. Take care of your equipment and it will take care of you. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:21:36 -0400 Subject: Re: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > The old Century and Strand Lekos had/have the same problem. Cleaning out > the 20 years of gunk is a start. > Done that! First thing when I arrived three years ago, I disassembled all of these units, thoroughly cleaned them, replaced lamp sockets and burned plugs. They are a lot better now than they had been for years, but they still give me trouble. > (Slightly) loosening the screws and lubricating the slider with silicone > spray helps. > I'll try that. (and the aquarium tubing.) Thanks. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:26:53 -0400 Message-ID: <00b001c5a26e$8f67bd50$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > > (Slightly) loosening the screws and lubricating the slider with > > silicone spray helps. > > > I'll try that. (and the aquarium tubing.) Thanks. The other thing I'd do is take a grinding wheel and grind off that damned ridge that blocks the slider. I've never understood what that was about. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2E3198416D5E7A4FB3FEC7E6838FE36B059B14 [at] ct11exm60.ds.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: Turntable installations solicited please Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:00:07 -0700 My wife's high school in Phoenix has the same arrangement. Don't know who the architect was, but he/she apparently got around a lot in Arizona. Anybody building an academic theatre/auditorium should come out here and look at that design. Great usability of space, since you only need the cheap seats for sell-out shows. Chip Wood -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB > I believe Doom is >referring to the Chandler Center for the Arts, which uses turntables >for the house, to have additional seating which can be separate spaces >or part of the main house for increased seating. Interesting, but I >don't think it was what you were looking for. Yup, the Nogales High School has a proscenuim theatre (actually, quite nice!) with two classrooms at the back fo teh house that will rotate on turntables to become part of the house. Classrooms by day, cheap seats by showtime! A better use of a turntable in a high school theatre IMHO. ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:40:21 -0500 From: "Dan Heerts" Subject: (2) ETC Source 4 Revolutions for sale Hello Everyone. I need to sell a couple BRAND NEW, ETC source 4 Revolution moving lights. They are the base model. They include the instrument, U ground power cord, and 750 watt lamp. These two units are both brand new, and have not been used yet. I took them out of the boxes and put the lamps in, and that is it. I am asking $1600 each or you can have both for $3100 plus shipping. contact me directly for anymore info if you would like. Thanks for looking. Sincerely, Dan Heerts, Arts Director Marie W. Heider Center For The Arts 405 E. Hamlin St. West Salem, WI 54669 (608)786-1220 ext: 2128 http://www.wsalem.k12.wi.us/HeiderCenterInfo.htm ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050816171332.7697.qmail [at] web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:13:32 -0700 (PDT) From: June Abernathy Subject: Re: Moving Lights >We are planning to upgrade from 4 Cyberlites LX and >12 leko's to 12 newer moving light fixtures. I am >sure everyone has at least one opinion as >to which light is better. Some as to cost and some >as to features. >Kenneth H. Holyoak >Information+Insight=Profit >HIG, LLC When you say you are "upgrading from", do you mean that you are replacing your current fixtures with the new ones, or that you are planning to add 12 new moving lights to your existing inventory? If it's the former, I'd be wary of having a rig with no fixed units at all, particularly in your situation. Otherwise you end up dedicating a moving light to mundane functions like highlighting a podium or a step unit or some such. June Abernathy IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL) FOH Electrician The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:17:28 -0400 Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7cd95e180508151111ee59856 [at] mail.gmail.com> Speaking as an LD, I don't much like grids put together with rigid cheeseboroughs or 90-degree pipe-clamps, primarily because it puts the pipes at different heights (at least two, though in incompetent hands three or four). This is visually messy to me. I like as clean a grid and clean a hang as possible. If the grid is going up permanently, I'd go for rotolocks. It may be more expensive and take longer to assemble, but the entire grid is then at one height, the look is far cleaner, and electricians don't have to make choices about how to route cable when trying to go over/under an intersection. If you need to hang a light in a special place -- well, that's what short pipes, cheeseboroughs and sidearms are made for. Cris On 8/15/05 2:11 PM, "Mike Katz" wrote: > Joe, > Grids are one place that I feel Roto locks are a pain in the butt. > They are a great connector to connect short pipes to long onnes at a > rigid 90, but they are a pain to use with long lengths in enclosed > spaces (like a grid) since one of the pipes needs to slide into the > fitting. I would reccomend the 2 piece grid clamps that bolt together, > also at a rigid 90. they are cheaper and easier for a fixed grid. > Speaking of cheaper, If you do want a rotolock type of device go to > Bill and buy his pipe loop clamps, they are much less expensive thn a > rotolock. The one dowside of them is that they use an allen wrench to > tighten two screws rather than the one hex nut on the original. they > are a bit harder to install, but (IIRC) you can buy three for the cost > of one rotolock. > Mike Katz > MIT Theater Arts TD > > > On 8/15/05, Joseph Champelli wrote: >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> =20 >> Point your contractor towards rota-locks. >> Remember 1.5" sched. 40 pipe (1.6" ID 1.9" OD) >> =20 >> rota-locks are easy to use and allow you to create a grid of pipe that >> will be very rigid and yet offer flexibility if you need to add or >> remove sections of pipe. >> =20 >> go here for a picture of a rota-lcok: >> http://www.stage-n-studio.com/Cat_PDF_pages/page19.pdf >> =20 >> here for a price: >> http://spike.pnta.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=3DPROD&Product_Code= > =3DURL11%2F2&Category_Code=3DFH&Product_Count=3D10 >> =20 >> =20 >> Joe >> =20 >> =20 >> -- >> Joseph Champelli >> University of Tennessee >> FTSI >> --- >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> --- >> Mr Sapsis wrote: >> =20 >>> ...There's no reason to re-invent the wheel or to turn something as >>> simple as a >>> grid into a 3-act play. And that's what the Uni-Strut will do. >>> First you >>> will need the right kind of connector. Then it's the spring bolts. >>> Then >>> it's the splices. Lordy, it do get complicated. >>> >>> Go with the pipe. It'll be easy to install and you'll have time for >>> a beer >>> on the back deck at sundown. >>> >>> Hope that helps. >>> Bill S. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:23:29 -0700 Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Aug 16, 2005, at 11:17 AM, C. Dopher wrote: > If the grid is going up permanently, I'd go for rotolocks. It may be > more > expensive and take longer to assemble, but the entire grid is then at > one > height, the look is far cleaner What kind of rotolocks do you use, that allow all pipe to stay at the same elevation? You must find them in the same section as the cans of "dark no-more" and "platforms be flush" (Hey bill, how much are you paying to get this thread extended?) ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:43:44 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C8BC [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > > If the grid is going up permanently, I'd go for rotolocks. =20 > > It may be more expensive and take longer to assemble, but=20 > > the entire grid is then at one height >=20 > What kind of rotolocks do you use, that allow all pipe to stay at the=20 > same elevation? You must find them in the same section as the cans=20 > of "dark no-more" and "platforms be flush" I was wondering the same thing...but it makes me ponder whether a permanently-installed pipe grid with adequate support would be feasible with something like a Kee Klamp fitting that allowed for this sort of installation. Never having thought of this before (and never having the opportunity to spec out something like it) I have no idea if the weight ratings would work in an overhead assembly like this, or if there are any other, oh, what's the word...deficiencies (not quite right, but I'm experiencing a massive brain cramp right now) that would make it unsafe... ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Turntable installations solicited please Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:44:31 -0500 Message-ID: <5D5187063B6B8B46A99E8C0D36E0EB097B5ACF [at] danube.river.idm.com> From: "Steven Haworth" Stevenson HS in Lincolnshire IL (just n of Chicago) also has one of = these things built, by the same architect as I recall. I only lit one = show there, but I wasn't impressed. The throw from the FOH cove to the = main prosc stage was 55', and the sightlines to that stage were so wide = that masking the side areas backstage became difficult. The turntables themselves were neat, but seemed an outrageous use of = money, for the benefit given. It's very expensive to build such huge = turntables, supporting enough weight to hold an entire audience. The = rear walls of this main space contained two more stages, with small = coves for FOH, and the turntables rotated the main space seating to face = them when they were used. I guess those were ok when in use, but then = the walls in the main space looked rather strange - huge curving walls = in the right and left-rear of the house. There were a number of basic design mistakes (IMHO) as well, which may = have been the architect or perhaps someone else... the space was = basically equipped as a classical music concert hall, and a number of = last-minute changes had to be made to support true theatrical use. = Some, like lighting issues that I had a small hand in correcting, were = solved adequately. Others, like having the sound booth location, had to = be worked around when live sound needed mixing. - Steven (sjh [at] idm.com) --------------------------- http://www.stagelights.info ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:44:55 -0400 Subject: Podcast audio setup (a little OT) From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: Hi all. I'm looking to setup a good, small, and portable system for recording podcasts for a friend. I was thinking a powered 4-channel mixer (it's usually only him and his subject he's interviewing) and two body mics. Once levels are set, I'd like to be able to output the signal to my Mac in separate streams and mix in post (some introductory and closing sound bytes are added in and I need to be able to selectively drop out sound when people cough). I'm confident that if I can pull this off, I can help him create a podcast that doesn't require constant (and sometimes extreme) volume adjustment on the part of the listener. I would very much appreciate suggestions as to mics, mixers, and the necessary equipment to go from mixer to Mac as well as some good software. I was wondering if GarageBand would be adequate... I was thinking a Yamaha MG10 or the like for a mixer, and something like what newscasters use for body mics (they needn't be wireless); they need to pick up only the wearer's voice and not background sounds like air conditioning, something like the nice Sennheiser lavaliers do. Final difficulty: the podcasters will be wearing hospital sanitary masks the whole time; not that that should affect sound much. Thanks in advance. Cris Dopher, LD ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:13:45 -0400 From: Ty Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two In-Reply-To: References: I would echo the earlier suggestion of Unca Bill's Grid Lok pipe clamps. They are an excellent choice for this type of installation. The nicest thing about them is that they are NOT cast (cast rigging hardware scares the bejezzus out of me, have you ever considered how much you are relying on a single bolt and nut when using a rotolock or cheese borough). They use 4 3/8" (nyloc) nuts and bolts to latch them together and they are very cost effective. ~Tyler PS I don't work for Bill. On 8/16/05, Paul Schreiner wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > > > If the grid is going up permanently, I'd go for rotolocks. > > > It may be more expensive and take longer to assemble, but > > > the entire grid is then at one height > > > > What kind of rotolocks do you use, that allow all pipe to stay at the > > same elevation? You must find them in the same section as the cans > > of "dark no-more" and "platforms be flush" >=20 > I was wondering the same thing...but it makes me ponder whether a > permanently-installed pipe grid with adequate support would be feasible > with something like a Kee Klamp fitting that allowed for this sort of > installation. >=20 > Never having thought of this before (and never having the opportunity to > spec out something like it) I have no idea if the weight ratings would > work in an overhead assembly like this, or if there are any other, oh, > what's the word...deficiencies (not quite right, but I'm experiencing a > massive brain cramp right now) that would make it unsafe... > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <8A29FDEC-FC11-4277-829E-D7C66D384360 [at] hawaii.rr.com> From: Shell Dalzell Subject: Mold Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:24:57 -1000 The main stage theater of the University of Hawaii was recently closed for the opening production of the fall season to allow for cleanup of extensive mold in the house. The story is that the AC was shut down in July for a week to allow for the removal of a 40 year old fire curtain that contained some asbestos fibers. At the end of the week, the AC was turned on again but, being summer, no one went into the house for about two weeks. When the staff returned they discovered major mold damage on the seats, drapes, walls, carpets, etc. Another company has now been hired to clean up the mess. My question is, has anyone else had this sort of problem? How was it dealt with? What caused it? I ask what caused it because I have lived here for 35 years and have never seen that kind of problem before. My theater (a small black box) has the AC off daily and for a week several times a year. No mold. My house has a little mold in the bath but otherwise no problem and I use AC only occasionally. Aloha, Shell sdalzell [at] hawaii.rr.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43023EA1.9C72A469 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:29:38 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two References:

Ty wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I would echo the earlier suggestion of Unca Bill's Grid Lok pipe > clamps. They are an excellent choice for this type of installation. > > The nicest thing about them is that they are NOT cast (cast rigging > hardware scares the bejezzus out of me, have you ever considered how > much you are relying on a single bolt and nut when using a rotolock or > cheese borough). > Yeah, that is a single point of failure, but there are bolts out there that are rated far in excess of the load we put on them. Besides, I like to put a safety cable on that link as well. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:30:43 -0700 From: Mat Goebel Subject: Re: Mold In-Reply-To: References:

The high school I graduated from had a similar problem in two entire buildings. In those installations, apparently some of the welds were below par and cracked/broke, allowing several of the large air conditioning units to move slightly and begin leaking fluid slowly down all the walls, etc. On 8/16/05, Shell Dalzell wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > The main stage theater of the University of Hawaii was recently > closed for the opening production of the fall season to allow for > cleanup of extensive mold in the house. >=20 > The story is that the AC was shut down in July for a week to allow > for the removal of a 40 year old fire curtain that contained some > asbestos fibers. At the end of the week, the AC was turned on again > but, being summer, no one went into the house for about two weeks. > When the staff returned they discovered major mold damage on the > seats, drapes, walls, carpets, etc. Another company has now been > hired to clean up the mess. >=20 > My question is, has anyone else had this sort of problem? How was it > dealt with? What caused it? >=20 > I ask what caused it because I have lived here for 35 years and have > never seen that kind of problem before. My theater (a small black > box) has the AC off daily and for a week several times a year. No mold. > My house has a little mold in the bath but otherwise no problem and I > use AC only occasionally. --=20 Mat Goebel Audio Engineer / Sound Designer www.matgoebel.com Mobile: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43023FA3.60F61DE9 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:33:55 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Mold References:

Shell Dalzell wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > The main stage theater of the University of Hawaii was recently > closed for the opening production of the fall season to allow for > cleanup of extensive mold in the house. > > The story is that the AC was shut down in July for a week to allow > for the removal of a 40 year old fire curtain that contained some > asbestos fibers. At the end of the week, the AC was turned on again > but, being summer, no one went into the house for about two weeks. > When the staff returned they discovered major mold damage on the > seats, drapes, walls, carpets, etc. Another company has now been > hired to clean up the mess. > > My question is, has anyone else had this sort of problem? How was it > dealt with? What caused it? > > I ask what caused it because I have lived here for 35 years and have > never seen that kind of problem before. My theater (a small black > box) has the AC off daily and for a week several times a year. No mold. > My house has a little mold in the bath but otherwise no problem and I > use AC only occasionally. Not in a theater, but in a residence in the Boston area that a friend of mine was renting. It turned out that the particular mold was very bad for people's health, and it was cheaper to burn the place to the ground and rebuild it brand new than to decontaminate it. Insurance company paid for it. --Dale ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: Mold Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:13:53 -0600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dale: My company has investigated and provided risk assessments and environmental audits of many, many performing arts venues of all types, and found mold and asbestos, especially in the older venues. We then recommend to the client that they contract with an environmental removal company for both. There are numerous law suits regarding mold in educational facilities that we have investigated. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Dale Farmer Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:34 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Mold For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Shell Dalzell wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > The main stage theater of the University of Hawaii was recently > closed for the opening production of the fall season to allow for > cleanup of extensive mold in the house. > > The story is that the AC was shut down in July for a week to allow > for the removal of a 40 year old fire curtain that contained some > asbestos fibers. At the end of the week, the AC was turned on again > but, being summer, no one went into the house for about two weeks. > When the staff returned they discovered major mold damage on the > seats, drapes, walls, carpets, etc. Another company has now been > hired to clean up the mess. > > My question is, has anyone else had this sort of problem? How was it > dealt with? What caused it? > > I ask what caused it because I have lived here for 35 years and have > never seen that kind of problem before. My theater (a small black > box) has the AC off daily and for a week several times a year. No mold. > My house has a little mold in the bath but otherwise no problem and I > use AC only occasionally. Not in a theater, but in a residence in the Boston area that a friend of mine was renting. It turned out that the particular mold was very bad for people's health, and it was cheaper to burn the place to the ground and rebuild it brand new than to decontaminate it. Insurance company paid for it. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050816134236.00cd4e58 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:42:36 From: CB Subject: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies >Kenneth H. Holyoak >Information+Insight=Profit >HIG, LLC > >Mail >POB 68633 > >Indianapolis IN 46268-0633 > >UPS > >1508 E 86th Street Suite 177 >Indianapolis IN 46240 > > > >ken [at] kenholyoak.com > > > >317-253-7000 FAX 317-255-3708 > While I'm sure that this info is important to the user (Kens cited only as an example) I'm not so sure that it is that important to us. If we need to mail you something or ship you something or fax you something, or call you, I'm sure that we can contact you on the list. This is a bout a page of information that serves almost no purpose on a listserve, and the second time it serves only to obfuscate usefull information. Check you sigs, trim your replies, and give the digesters one break this week. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c99805081614025a3cb78f [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:02:44 -0400 From: Scott Parker Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies In-Reply-To: References: If we all top posted, you wouldn't care about the sigs... Sorry, couldn't resist ;-> > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ >=20 > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... >=20 --=20 Take care, Scott =09Scott C. Parker =09Professor/Technical Director =09Dept. of Performing Arts =09Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University =09Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F =09Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza=20 =09New York, NY 10038 =09212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050816135652.00cd4e58 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:56:52 From: CB Subject: Re: Audio Power Sequencer > We all agree that a qualified operator is preferable, but in a school it >just ain't gonna happen! The instructor for the classes that utilize the equipment should be educable, and he should be training operators. Students learn fast, and shouldn't be alone with the gear without completing the training. Janitors could be trained to use the gear as well. 'Qualified operators' are just the same operators that would use the gear normally, only armed with an education. I used to be the TD on a remote truck that shot high school sports shows for the local public access program, and we each had a student follow us around and learn our positions. My student was doing the entire show, from the truck parking to the truck leaving, by himself, by mid-season. He now works for one of the local affiliates. It *is* a school, after all! Oh, and Charlie? You *are* one of the ten percenters I was referring to in your post. I've shopped RS as well, and I can spot the good stuff in the chaff. Power sequencers are not bad, they are just not an adequate replacement for knowing what is what. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References:

Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:51:06 -0700 Agreed Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Parker" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- If we all top posted, you wouldn't care about the sigs... Sorry, couldn't resist ;-> > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ > > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... > -- Take care, Scott Scott C. Parker Professor/Technical Director Dept. of Performing Arts Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza New York, NY 10038 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3998154b05081619053ff83527 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:05:08 -0700 From: Paul Puppo Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com Subject: Re: Berkey (Lee) Colortran Parts Search In-Reply-To: References:

Berkeys (thanks for the correction, after using them for over 20 years, you'd think I know how to spell it) are a fine, if dated instrument. Would I rather have a Source 4, yeah. Would I rather have a Century 6x9 or have to flatten the field on an Altman 360 Q, no, I'd rather run from the building. BTW the ridge is very useful. When re-assembling an instrument, if you stand the lens barrel gel frame holder down (yes, I know it wobbles) then slide the body of the instrument over the lens barrel till it stops, the hole in the body tube will line up with the slider. Paul Puppo http://www.Nifty-Gadgets.com On 8/16/05, Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 >=20 > > > (Slightly) loosening the screws and lubricating the slider with > > > silicone spray helps. > > > > > I'll try that. (and the aquarium tubing.) Thanks. >=20 > The other thing I'd do is take a grinding wheel and grind off that damned > ridge that blocks the slider. I've never understood what that was about. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3998154b05081619297dbec7b9 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:29:30 -0700 From: Paul Puppo Subject: job opportunity at the Cowell Theater in San Francisco In-Reply-To: References: The Cowell Theater is looking for a new Production Manager. I will be happy to answer any questions about the theatre, and I'll try to answer, as best I can, any questions about the job. (No, I don't know the pay scale.) The Job: Production Manager, Cowell Theater Overview The Cowell Theater Production Manager is an important pre-booking and primary post-booking production contact for the diverse clientele who utilize the Cowell Theater. The Manager provides professional leadership and support to a busy production team. S/he oversees the work of the Technical Director, stage technicians, house managers, and facility technicians. The Production Manager must be adept at customer relations and quick problem solving. more info: The Place: Fort Mason Center, located in the historic piers and buildings of Lower Fort Mason, offers a variety of activities of the highest quality at minimum or no cost, suitable for all ages and interests. This former military base offers the opportunity to experience diversity in a unique environment, focusing on the visual and performing arts, humanities, education, ecology, and recreation. A National Historic Landmark and part of the Golden Gate National Recreation Area, the Center houses about 35 nonprofit organizations and is the setting for more than 15,000 meetings, conferences, performances, and special events, attended by 1.5 million visitors each year. The Venue: A 15 year old, fairly well equiped, 437 seat house with a lobby view of the Golden Gate Bridge. Photo: =20 The theatre is at the end of the middle pier. (yeah, it's pretty special) A good job at a good theatre with a great view and a great crew. Paul Puppo ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3998154b05081619455263178c [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:45:23 -0700 From: Paul Puppo Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com Subject: Re: Berkeley (Lee) Colortran Parts Search In-Reply-To: References:

Well, body castings mostly from the 6 inch ellipsoidals (the original ones with the rectilinear (square) lamp housings, not version 2.0 with the round "tail cap"/ "burn base"), barrel tubes (holders) wouldn't hurt, and knobs (those long knobs on the 6 inch Zoom ellips) etc. Thanks, Paul Puppo p.s. please see my other post re: job opportunity at Cowell Theater On 8/16/05, Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 >=20 > What parts does he need? >=20 > > A friend of mine is curious about the availability of > > Berkeley parts (30 degree, 40 degree etc.) > > > > Anyone have any sources? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paul Puppo > > > > > > >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2610.69.162.0.57.1124250878.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:54:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Mold From: usctd [at] columbia.sc > My question is, has anyone else had this sort of problem? How was it > dealt with? What caused it? My understanding is that when mold spores are disturbed they create a bunch of newbie mold spores. Was there ANY sign of mold on the old fire curtain? A couple of weeks in a semi humid environment could be a field day, especialy on soft goods that can retain a fair amount of moisture. Make sure that it is taken care of properly as it can be a pretty serious health hazard. Has anyone seen the show Dirty Jobs on discovery chan? A couple of weeks ago they were in a person's basement where the plumbing had exploded. They were on vacation for a couple of weeks and the basement was a mold playground. -- Eric Rouse TD-Penn State University, State College, PA Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 00:05:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I'm not telling.... Bill S. On 8/16/05 2:23 PM, "Mark O'Brien" wrote: > (Hey bill, how much are you paying to get this thread extended?) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <011701c5a2e5$9d155a80$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:39:05 -0700 > I'm not telling.... > Bill S. > On 8/16/05 2:23 PM, "Mark O'Brien" wrote: >> (Hey bill, how much are you paying to get this thread extended?) When you extend a thread, do you use sleeves? I have heard that when you extend a sleeve, you use threads. ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #491 *****************************