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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #492

 1. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
    by "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
 2. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
 3. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
    by "Steven Haworth" <sjh [at] idm.com>
 4. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
 5. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies
    by Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
 6. Re: Make fire from water
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
 7. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
 8. Low grids - was Grid System
    by "Steven Haworth" <sjh [at] idm.com>
 9. Re: Low grids - was Grid System
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
10. Job Posting
    by Nathaniel.G.H.Wells.00 [at] Alum.Dartmouth.ORG (Nathaniel G. H. Wells 00)
11. mold
    by "David R. Krajec" <drkrajec [at] stritch.edu>
12. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
    by "Jon Lagerquist" <jon [at] lagerquist.com>
13. A Chorus Line
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
14. Re: Turntable Shmurmtable
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
15. Re: mold
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
16. Podcast audio setup (a little OT)
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
17. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE:  repeat replies
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
18. Mac 500E not firing
    by wyn <wyn [at] idworld.net>
19. MIKED GUITAR AMPS
    by ken frederickson <kenfrederickson [at] yahoo.com>
20. Quilters quilt
    by "sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu" <sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu>
21. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE:  repeat replies
    by "Douglas P. McCracken" <doug [at] attcoinc.com>
22. Re: Quilters quilt
    by "Donald Robert Fox" <dsgnrlight [at] hotmail.com>
23. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies
    by MissWisc [at] aol.com
24. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE:  repeat replies
    by Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
25. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE:  repeat replies
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
26. Re: Quilters quilt
    by Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
27. Re: MIKED GUITAR AMPS
    by "Jeffrey Kanyuck" <JKanyuck [at] Harford.edu>
28. Re: mold
    by Brian Aldous <brian [at] tany.com>
29. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE:  repeat replies
    by "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
30. Re: mold
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
31. Re: Quilters quilt
    by "rees" <rees [at] fredonia.edu>
32. Re: MIKED GUITAR AMPS
    by "Chris Warner" <bearz2 [at] cox.net>

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Date:	Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:50:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
From:	"C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
Message-ID: <BF28B8D1.1C9D8%brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
In-Reply-To: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C8BC [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>

On 8/16/05 2:43 PM, "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu> wrote:

>>> If the grid is going up permanently, I'd go for rotolocks. =20
>>> It may be more expensive and take longer to assemble, but=20
>>> the entire grid is then at one height
>> =20
>> What kind of rotolocks do you use, that allow all pipe to stay at the=20
>> same elevation?   You must find them in the same section as  the cans=20
>> of "dark no-more"  and "platforms be flush"
> 
> I was wondering the same thing...but it makes me ponder whether a
> permanently-installed pipe grid with adequate support would be feasible
> with something like a Kee Klamp fitting that allowed for this sort of
> installation.
> 
> Never having thought of this before (and never having the opportunity to
> spec out something like it) I have no idea if the weight ratings would
> work in an overhead assembly like this, or if there are any other, oh,
> what's the word...deficiencies (not quite right, but I'm experiencing a
> massive brain cramp right now) that would make it unsafe...


Sorry, I meant speedrail or Kee Klamps.  Don't know why that stuck in my
head as rotolocks.

The weight ratings should work out fine as long as the long pipes in one
direction are directly supported from above and the short pipes in between
are no more than 4 or 5 feet.  Bill can correct me if I'm wrong.

I've seen grids made this way, which is the only reason I bring it up.

Cris Dopher


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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:00:11 -0400
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
In-reply-to: <list-24251888 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <430342EB.8010104 [at] ithaca.edu>
Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts
References: <list-24251888 [at] prxy.net>

C. Dopher wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------

> 
> Sorry, I meant speedrail or Kee Klamps.  Don't know why that stuck in my
> head as rotolocks.
> 
> The weight ratings should work out fine as long as the long pipes in one
> direction are directly supported from above and the short pipes in between
> are no more than 4 or 5 feet.  Bill can correct me if I'm wrong.

Does the 1.5" difference between pipes really make *that* much 
difference?  If the audience is looking at the construction of the 
grid, I'd say you have more serious problems with the production.

I go to see a healthy amount of theatre, outside of my own 
productions.  While I take a professional interest in the lighting rig 
I can't say that I've ever been bothered that some lights were 1.5" 
above others.  Messy cabling, safeties not linked around the pipe, 
that sort of stuff will bother me.

Steve L.

-- 
Stephen C. Litterst
Technical Supervisor
Ithaca College
Dept. of Theatre Arts
607/274-3947
slitterst [at] ithaca.edu

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Subject: RE: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:23:05 -0500
Message-ID: <5D5187063B6B8B46A99E8C0D36E0EB097B5AD3 [at] danube.river.idm.com>
From: "Steven Haworth" <sjh [at] idm.com>

Seems to me a proper theatre design has everything black up there, no =
lights above it, and w/house lights on it should be nearly impossible to =
see anything on the grid, other than vague shapes of instruments.

And I agree, unless you audience is full of LDs, no one should be =
looking at the grid.  My wife and I once saw a show that was REALLY bad, =
and she admitted she even resorted to my normal hobby of analyzing the =
lighting design by looking at the fixtures and color use.  But normally =
she never pays attention to them.=20


- Steven      (sjh [at] idm.com)
---------------------------
http://www.stagelights.info

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Message-ID: <000901c5a339$b1c135e0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-24252183 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:41:03 -0700

> Seems to me a proper theatre design has everything black up there, no 
> lights above it, and w/house lights on it should be nearly impossible to 
> see anything on the grid, other than vague shapes of instruments.
>


I understand Chris' issue, as an LD myself... unfortunately, my new black 
box will have a fixed grid using Rotos, and it's not just the 1.5" height 
difference, but each short length of pipe (perpendicular to the long runs) 
are offset 1.5" up, and about 2" left or right, as there are 2 pipe ends 
meeting at the same place, each one offset to accomodate the other.  (This 
probably makes no sense.)  I could post a picture, if someone cares - but 
basically imagine a sort of zig zag, or lock stitch of pipes.

 - Jon Ares
www.hevanet.com/acreative 


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References: <list-24241829 [at] prxy.net> <list-24241945 [at] prxy.net> <list-24243745 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <8F32CD9F-0527-482E-B345-8C314752B406 [at] theprices.net>
From: Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:49:10 -0700


On Aug 16, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Occy wrote:
> Agreed Scott
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Parker" <scparker [at] gmail.com>

> If we all top posted, you wouldn't care about the sigs...
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist ;->

Of course Scott and Occy read single messages, so top posting hides  
the mess. :-)

Chris is speaking for the (roughly 60%) digest subscribers who have  
to scroll through the extra text whether it's at the top or the bottom.

Noah


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References: <list-24064252 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <a7953e4491921d4e8f026ba34039e374 [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Make fire from water
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:53:20 -0400

> Saw this on slashdot thought I would share
>
> <http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/home/make-fire-from-water-116027.php>
>

Finally followed the link and the Heat and Glo actually lists the price 
now on their website at $35,000 and $49,900 as pictured.  I'll stick 
with the flapping fabric version for now.


Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:00:57 -0400
Message-ID: <000001c5a33c$79aaa940$6601a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-24251984 [at] prxy.net>


> Does the 1.5" difference between pipes really make *that* much 
> difference?

I've drawn this out (http://www.jeffsalzberg.com/temp/grid.pdf).

Let's assume a 14' grid (There are certainly lower ones out there, but in
those cases, the LD has problems far worse than a 2" (I rounded up, for
convenience's sake) differential in height) and a 45 degree angle of
incidence.

The throw is 9'-9.71".  A 50-degree Source 4 at that throw gives a 9.11'
field with 364.43 footcandles.

Now, let's raise the hanging position by two inches. Now the throw is
9'-11.14".  A 50-degree Source 4 at that throw gives a 9.23' field with
355.67 footcandles.

So the difference is negligible.  It would be more pronounced at a lower
grid height, but as I said, the lighting designer in that case would have
more serious problems, including but not limited to trying to overcome the
Inverse Square law.




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Subject: Low grids - was Grid System
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:15:45 -0500
Message-ID: <5D5187063B6B8B46A99E8C0D36E0EB097B5ADA [at] danube.river.idm.com>
From: "Steven Haworth" <sjh [at] idm.com>
Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com

I'm building a grid soon that's 14' above the floor, but only 12' above =
the stage.  The grid pipes will be sitting on the lower cords of the =
ceiling trusses, so I should be able to overhang and get a little more =
height.  But it will be a pain... at this point the extra-wide lens for =
S4-pars are looking pretty good, as are wide-flood pars are 50-deg S4s.  =
Short of the spendy 90-deg Selecon units (probably beyond this budget), =
I'm not sure what else to spec.

- Steven      (sjh [at] idm.com)
---------------------------
http://www.stagelights.info


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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Low grids - was Grid System
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:18:48 -0400
Message-ID: <000101c5a33e$fadf5f90$6601a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-24252846 [at] prxy.net>


> I'm building a grid soon that's 14' above the floor, but only 
> 12' above the stage.

The height above the stage is the relevant dimension.

> at this point the extra-wide lens for S4-pars are 
> looking pretty good, as are wide-flood pars are 50-deg S4s.  
> Short of the spendy 90-deg Selecon units (probably beyond 
> this budget), I'm not sure what else to spec.

*Lots* of R113.



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Message-id: <53056613 [at] newsneezy.Dartmouth.ORG>
Date: 17 Aug 2005 12:45:58 EDT
From: Nathaniel.G.H.Wells.00 [at] Alum.Dartmouth.ORG (Nathaniel G. H. Wells 00)
Subject: Job Posting

Hello all,
I'm posting this for a friend.  I've worked very closely with this company and
can speek very highly of their products.  They are located out here in Las
Vegas and need to grow.

Job listing as bellow....

AMC Fabrication, a rigging and stage machinery manufacturer, seeks experienced
drafter (A.T.D. type) immediately.  The candidate must have a minimum of 3
years CAD experience.   Expertise in 2D and 3D modelling essential.  The ideal
candidate would also be knowledgeable in rigging, stage machinery, welding and
machining.  Some production work may be required.  This position is very
demanding with potential for rapid advancement.

Starts: Immediately
Salary and benefits: DOE but starting at $35,000
Resumes accepted until position filled.

Website: WWW.AmcFX.Com
Submit resume, cover letter and 3 references to:
Joe.Parnello [at] AmcFX.Com
-or-
Fax: (702) 951-2203

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Reply-To: <drkrajec [at] stritch.edu>
From: "David R. Krajec" <drkrajec [at] stritch.edu>
Subject: mold
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:24:43 -0500
Message-ID: <JKEMJFLLJELICALBEPDPMEKECIAA.drkrajec [at] stritch.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-24249516 [at] prxy.net>

In one of my basement facilities, we had a flood (rain water) and we had
about a foot of standing water.  The water was removed but nothing was done
to abate the mold.  (We didn't have A/C at that time.)  Mold was everywhere.
My boss ended up having mold growing in his lungs!  He now suffers from
asthma and other allergy related problems.  It was after this incident that
I found out that the mold is always in the air.  It is just looking for a
good home.  Nothing like a dark, damp place to call home.
When dealing with mold and mold spores, remember that allergies can be
triggered by live mold as well as dead mold.  Bleach solutions may kill the
mold, but it doesn't remove the mold or the spores.  If there was mold on a
wall or a seat, the mold has to be killed and then removed.  Also, if you
see it on the wall, it is probably in the ventilation system.  You're going
to need a top to bottom cleaning of the facility.
Hopefully, you will never have to turn off the A/C system again.

David K.



------------------------------

From: "Jon Lagerquist" <jon [at] lagerquist.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:50:52 -0700
Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com
Message-ID: <4303168C.29834.111B5F91 [at] localhost>
In-reply-to: <list-24252401 [at] prxy.net>

A couple of notes, that only a few of us really care about simply for 
the sake of accuracy.

Rotolocks are the Simmons fastener often called a casket lock. The 
device used to connect pipe is a Rotalock (note the "A").

Most theatrical lighting is hung from 1-1/2" pipe which has an outer 
diameter of 1.9". 1-1/4" pipe is on occasion used and that has a 
1.66" outer diameter.

> box will have a fixed grid using Rotos, and it's not just the 1.5" height


Jon Lagerquist


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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1c7.2ec4887c.3034ddfd [at] aol.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:37:49 EDT
Subject: A Chorus Line

friends, 

If you have a drop for A Chorus Line /  Finale, , , please contact me off list

needs to be for road show size venues, ,   40' wide, 

thanks

very best,

Keith Arsenault

IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group 
Tampa, Florida

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050817115900.00cd7068 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:59:00
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Turntable Shmurmtable

>Regardless of how flat the tire is, the distance from where the flat
>hits the edge of the wheel (the end of the chord) to the center is the
>same.  Also known as the radius of the circle

The distance from the center of the flat spot to the outside edge of the
not-flat portion of the wheel is the difference.  Getting from the flat to
the round, if you will.  

>Also, torque calcs at the center of the caster only work if you're
>motorizing the casters themselves.

Not necessarily.  If you calculated how much force would be required to
turn each of the wheels in unison to get them off the flat spots, you would
arrive at the same figure as:

>the amount of
>force required to lift the turntable over the hump,

And yes, it was a bit tongue in cheek, but it was still accurate as far as
the torque calqs.  Calculating the torque required and applying the torque,
two different things.  Measuring the amount of force required, like
skinning a cat, has many methods.  Anyone remember how to calculate the
height of a building using a barometer?
Oh, any time you get Mark and I in a room together (actual or virtual)
there is going to be a bit of bulls**t flung.  It just happens that way!
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Cc: drkrajec [at] stritch.edu
Subject: RE: mold
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:24:34 -0600
In-Reply-To: <list-24254517 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000024256450 [at] prxy.net>

David is right on. 
All of the Risk International risk and environmental assessments have had to
have bona fide, certified environmental companies who will guarantee their
work, and are listed with national associations for mold removal. It is
nothing to mess with and millions of dollars in law suits have been going on
for many years. Your legal eagles at your site ought to be given a heads up
about this type of problem and you and your staff need to be alerted as to
the hazards and liability fallout. Dr. Doom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of David R.
Krajec
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: mold

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

In one of my basement facilities, we had a flood (rain water) and we had
about a foot of standing water.  The water was removed but nothing was done
to abate the mold.  (We didn't have A/C at that time.)  Mold was everywhere.
My boss ended up having mold growing in his lungs!  He now suffers from
asthma and other allergy related problems.  It was after this incident that
I found out that the mold is always in the air.  It is just looking for a
good home.  Nothing like a dark, damp place to call home.
When dealing with mold and mold spores, remember that allergies can be
triggered by live mold as well as dead mold.  Bleach solutions may kill the
mold, but it doesn't remove the mold or the spores.  If there was mold on a
wall or a seat, the mold has to be killed and then removed.  Also, if you
see it on the wall, it is probably in the ventilation system.  You're going
to need a top to bottom cleaning of the facility.
Hopefully, you will never have to turn off the A/C system again.

David K.



------------------------------

Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050817124106.00d65fc0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:41:06
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Podcast audio setup (a little OT)

>I would very much appreciate suggestions as to mics, mixers, and the
>necessary equipment to go from mixer to Mac as well as some good software.

I'd go with a coupla Senn MK-2's.  They are going to be omni's, but they'll
sound great.  Rejecting off-axis sound is going to be a function of the
inverse-square law, and you can get a coupla channels of
expansion/compression on most decent sound software.   Senn makes a capsule
attachement for their K3U and/or K6 power supplies.  I'd use a USB Mic Pre
to mix, as you'll only have two channels.  USB pre solves a buncha
problems, and power and info travel through the one cord, it should
'install' itself in the software, and you don't have a bunch of adaptors
and cords dangling betwixt the comp and the mixer.  You can attach a chink
of Velcro and make the whole thing protable, too.
As far as software, you'll have to check with Mac guys.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050817130231.00d65fc0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:02:31
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE:
  repeat replies

>If we all top posted, you wouldn't care about the sigs...
>
>Sorry, couldn't resist ;->

Now, when I was learned in list etiquette, and this could be wrong, I was
told that top posting was *not* the current paridygm.  Putting what you
were replying too first, sparingly quoted, presented a sort of 'question
and answer' format as opposed to having the answer appear before the
question.  And there is nothing in the 'Stagecraft Dos and Don'ts' about
either method.  As always, I'm a good boy and I do what I'm told, so I'd be
willing to change if it made life easier for others.  


				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Message-ID: <43039D0B.3040603 [at] idworld.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:24:43 -0500
From: wyn <wyn [at] idworld.net>
Subject: Mac 500E not firing

It's time to tap the knowledge of the list .I have three Mac500E 
fixtures that do not strike the lamp ,the firing card tries to strike 
but it seems that the firing card does't have enough juice to fire the 
lamp.I replaced the lamp in one fixture and it fired up fine but when i 
tried to fire it up the next day on the same power source it failed to 
strike,I also changed the tap thinking that my power source was not up 
to voltage but there was no change.
Is there an adjustment on the firing card or do i just need to replace 
the card.These fixtures are very low hours (less than lamp life) but 3 
to 4 years old

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Message-ID: <20050817202832.73938.qmail [at] web50806.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:28:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: ken frederickson <kenfrederickson [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: MIKED GUITAR AMPS
In-Reply-To: <list-24257488 [at] prxy.net>

WHEN MIC'ING GUITARS-WHAT ARE THE PRO'S AND CONS OF 
GOING OFF OF THE AMP VS DIRECT TO THE BOARD?  I HAVE
ALWAYS GONE OFF OF THE AMP. 


		
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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:29:26 -0400
From: "sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu" <sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Message-Id: <1124310566-21324.022.92-smmsdV2.1.2 [at] smtp.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Quilters quilt
In-Reply-To: <list-24249516 [at] prxy.net>

Hi all,
     Does anybody have a source for renting the quilt and all the 
blocks used in Quilters?  I'm asking for someone else.  We did the 
show here in 1991, and rented a really nice quilt for it, but I've 
forgotten who we got it from.

Feel free to reply off list.

tia,
Steve Boone
Asst. Prof. today, Bowling Green State University



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From: "Douglas P. McCracken" <doug [at] attcoinc.com>
Subject: RE: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE:  repeat replies
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:36:12 -1000
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAFqUFjfG/TUGcMo33xxxhcMKAAAAQAAAARDCAm3LsSUShrRzHlKydEwEAAAAA [at] attcoinc.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24257488 [at] prxy.net>

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB

Now, when I was learned in list etiquette, and this could be wrong, I was
told that top posting was *not* the current paridygm.  Putting what you were
replying too first, sparingly quoted, presented a sort of 'question and
answer' format as opposed to having the answer appear before the question.
And there is nothing in the 'Stagecraft Dos and Don'ts' about either method.
As always, I'm a good boy and I do what I'm told, so I'd be willing to
change if it made life easier for others.  

-----End of Original Message-----



It is a lot of work for me to bottom post. My reply dialog puts me on top
with my sig. Do you have an email client that puts you at the bottom when
you click reply?

Aloha,

Douglas


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Message-ID: <BAY103-F38D555E2EB27C8F562FE86DDB30 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-24257724 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Donald Robert Fox" <dsgnrlight [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Quilters quilt
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:36:53 +0000

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>
<P>You should check with Sally Askins at Baylor University in Waco Texas.&nbsp; They did a production last fall.<BR><BR></P></DIV><BR><BR><BR>Donald Robert Fox, M.F.A.
<DIV></DIV>USA-AEA-IALD
<DIV></DIV>Asst. Professor of Design
<DIV></DIV>University of the Incarnate Word
<DIV></DIV>Dept. of Theatre Arts
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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<HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1>

<DIV></DIV>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>"sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu" &lt;sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu&gt;</I><BR>Reply-To:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>"Stagecraft" &lt;stagecraft [at] theatrical.net&gt;</I><BR>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>"Stagecraft" &lt;stagecraft [at] theatrical.net&gt;</I><BR>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>Quilters quilt</I><BR>Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:29:26 -0400</I><BR>For info, archives &amp; UNSUBSCRIBE, see &lt;http://stagecraft.theprices.net/&gt;<BR>---------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Hi all,<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Does anybody have a source for renting the quilt and all the<BR>blocks used in Quilters?&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm asking for someone else.&nbsp;&nbsp;We did the<BR>show here in 1991, and rented a really nice quilt for it, but I've<BR>forgotten who we got it from.<BR><BR>Feel free to reply off list.<BR><BR>tia,<BR>Steve Boone<BR>Asst. Prof. today, Bowling Green State University<BR><BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></div></html>


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From: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <111.50575161.3034f9d8 [at] aol.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:36:40 EDT
Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies

In a message dated 8/17/2005 3:14:30 PM Central Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net  
writes:
<<Now, when I was learned in list etiquette,  and this could be wrong, I was 
told that top posting was *not* the current  paridygm.>>
 
        Seems to vary from list to  list. Important thing is to get your 
message across without irritating  folks in the process.
 
Kristi

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Message-ID: <4303A298.1010505 [at] peak.org>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:48:24 -0700
From: Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE:  repeat
 replies
References: <list-24257821 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-24257821 [at] prxy.net>

Douglas wrote:

> It is a lot of work for me to bottom post. My reply dialog puts me on top
> with my sig. Do you have an email client that puts you at the bottom when
> you click reply?

The free Mozilla/Thunderbird mail client gives you the option of doing 
this neatly and automatically, and has other fine features as well (you 
can set it, for instance, to send and receive mail only in plain text 
format).

-- 
Pat Kight
kightp [at] peak.org



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Subject: RE: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE:  repeat replies
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:48:26 -0400
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C8BD [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> It is a lot of work for me to bottom post. My reply dialog=20
> puts me on top with my sig. Do you have an email client that=20
> puts you at the bottom when you click reply?

Both of my accounts (one that requires me to use Outlook, and my gmail)
throw the cursor to the top of the post when I reply...but it's a quick
scroll and click, and I'm at the bottom.  Not too much work.  It's more
work to do the snippage, but I also find that it forces me to really
think through what I'm gonna say (not that it ALWAYS works, mind you).

Granted, I (a) compose everything in plain text (and have Outlook set up
that way) and (b) don't use a sig file.  YMMV.

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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:51:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Quilters quilt
From: Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
Message-ID: <BF291B7D.71AD%tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24257724 [at] prxy.net>

We rented from a university in Wisconsin
back in the 1980's.  Can't remember which
one.  They were fantastic.  Box office
jumped 30% when we contacted all the quilting
groups in the state.

Steve

> From: "sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu" <sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu>
> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:29:26 -0400
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Subject: Quilters quilt
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Hi all,
> Does anybody have a source for renting the quilt and all the
> blocks used in Quilters?  I'm asking for someone else.  We did the
> show here in 1991, and rented a really nice quilt for it, but I've
> forgotten who we got it from.
> 
> Feel free to reply off list.
> 
> tia,
> Steve Boone
> Asst. Prof. today, Bowling Green State University
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Message-Id: <s3036bea.025 [at] ADM4.Harford.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:55:02 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Kanyuck" <JKanyuck [at] Harford.edu>
Subject: Re: MIKED GUITAR AMPS

Off the amp gives the "flavor" that some musicians like. Also, often
times if all that musician wants to hear is him/herself then that can be
your monitor for that musician, rather than running another separate
monitor.




>>> kenfrederickson [at] yahoo.com 8/17/2005 4:28 PM >>>
For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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WHEN MIC'ING GUITARS-WHAT ARE THE PRO'S AND CONS OF 
GOING OFF OF THE AMP VS DIRECT TO THE BOARD?  I HAVE
ALWAYS GONE OFF OF THE AMP. 


		
____________________________________________________
Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs 
 

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In-Reply-To: <list-24249516 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-24249516 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <7CA335C2-0F63-11DA-965B-000A9592AE20 [at] tany.com>
From: Brian Aldous <brian [at] tany.com>
Subject: Re: mold
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:11:32 -0400

Theatre B at Aaron Davis Hall (the performing arts center for CCNY at=20
135Th 7 Convent Ave. in Harlem) has had this problem twice during=20
"off-season" summers.  CUNY has an in-house environmental problem=20
clean-up team that handled it - frightening to think that CUNY has=20
enough "sick buildings" built in the 60's & 70's to justify such a=20
department!  This summer they had a summer season, and fearing mold=20
kept the building temperature below 70=FBF - house managers had to keep =
a=20
stash of sweaters & jackets borrowed from costume stock to lend to=20
audience coming in from NYC's 90=FB+ weather.
Nobody seems to have a real long term answer to the problem, short of a=20=

major renovation with a completely redesigned HVAC system.

BA

Brian Aldous
Lighting Design

brian [at] tany.com
On Aug 17, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote:

> Subject: Mold
> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:24:57 -1000
>
> The main stage theater of the University of Hawaii was recently
> closed for the opening production of the fall season to allow for
> cleanup of extensive mold in the house.
>
> The story is that the AC was shut down in July for a week to allow
> for the removal of a 40 year old fire curtain that contained some
> asbestos fibers.  At the end of the week, the AC was turned on again
> but, being summer, no one went into the house for about two weeks.
> When the staff returned they discovered major mold damage on the
> seats, drapes, walls, carpets, etc.  Another company has now been
> hired to clean up the mess.
>
> My question is, has anyone else had this sort of problem?  How was it
> dealt with? What caused it?
>
> I ask what caused it because I have lived here for 35 years and have
> never seen that kind of problem before.  My theater (a small black
> box) has the AC off daily and for a week several times a year.  No=20
> mold.
> My house has a little mold in the bath but otherwise no problem and I
> use AC only occasionally.
>
>
>
>
> Aloha,  Shell


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Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV17B2859C24AC01CFC36445BDB30 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
References: <list-24257488 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE:  repeat replies
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:34:41 -0700

Chris, things have changed, if you top post one can have the info that you 
are replying to without having to look the complete original post up. If one 
needs to a line by line or paragraph comments then we read it all again.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CB" <psyd [at] cox.net>

> Now, when I was learned in list etiquette, and this could be wrong, I was
> told that top posting was *not* the current paridygm.  Putting what you
> were replying too first, sparingly quoted, presented a sort of 'question
> and answer' format as opposed to having the answer appear before the
> question.  And there is nothing in the 'Stagecraft Dos and Don'ts' about
> either method.  As always, I'm a good boy and I do what I'm told, so I'd 
> be
> willing to change if it made life easier for others.
>
>
> Chris "Chris" Babbie
> Location Sound
> MON AZ
>
> Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
> negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...
> 

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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: mold
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:28:00 -0600
In-Reply-To: <list-24258394 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000024259236 [at] prxy.net>

The concern is for the people who occupy those buildings, as you know. =
Our
work over the last forty years indicate that "sick building, whether =
from
asbestos, mold, or lack of properly engineered HVAC systems which have
bacteria in the ducts, brings short and long term illnesses and major
liability problems, plus an array of other safety and health problems, =
long
term. Dr. Doom=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Brian
Aldous
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:12 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: mold

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Theatre B at Aaron Davis Hall (the performing arts center for CCNY at=20
135Th 7 Convent Ave. in Harlem) has had this problem twice during=20
"off-season" summers.  CUNY has an in-house environmental problem=20
clean-up team that handled it - frightening to think that CUNY has=20
enough "sick buildings" built in the 60's & 70's to justify such a=20
department!  This summer they had a summer season, and fearing mold=20
kept the building temperature below 70=A2=AAF - house managers had to =
keep a=20
stash of sweaters & jackets borrowed from costume stock to lend to=20
audience coming in from NYC's 90=A2=AA+ weather.
Nobody seems to have a real long term answer to the problem, short of a=20
major renovation with a completely redesigned HVAC system.

BA

Brian Aldous
Lighting Design

brian [at] tany.com
On Aug 17, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote:

> Subject: Mold
> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:24:57 -1000
>
> The main stage theater of the University of Hawaii was recently
> closed for the opening production of the fall season to allow for
> cleanup of extensive mold in the house.
>
> The story is that the AC was shut down in July for a week to allow
> for the removal of a 40 year old fire curtain that contained some
> asbestos fibers.  At the end of the week, the AC was turned on again
> but, being summer, no one went into the house for about two weeks.
> When the staff returned they discovered major mold damage on the
> seats, drapes, walls, carpets, etc.  Another company has now been
> hired to clean up the mess.
>
> My question is, has anyone else had this sort of problem?  How was it
> dealt with? What caused it?
>
> I ask what caused it because I have lived here for 35 years and have
> never seen that kind of problem before.  My theater (a small black
> box) has the AC off daily and for a week several times a year.  No=20
> mold.
> My house has a little mold in the bath but otherwise no problem and I
> use AC only occasionally.
>
>
>
>
> Aloha,  Shell


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From: "rees" <rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Subject: Re: Quilters quilt
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:24:10 -0400
Message-id: <4303c71a.11a.d78.18895 [at] fredonia.edu>

We rented ours from the Arizona Theatre Company about 10
years ago.  It was a phenomenal piece of work.  They also
had many other elemets for rent as well.  You'll need to go
to their website for contact info however. Sorry.
Steve Rees, TD
SUNY-Fredonia
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Hi all,
>      Does anybody have a source for renting the quilt and
> all the  blocks used in Quilters?  I'm asking for someone
> else.  We did the  show here in 1991, and rented a really
> nice quilt for it, but I've  forgotten who we got it from.
> 
> Feel free to reply off list.
> 
> tia,
> Steve Boone
> Asst. Prof. today, Bowling Green State University
> 

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From: "Chris Warner" <bearz2 [at] cox.net>
Subject: RE: MIKED GUITAR AMPS
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:33:27 -0700
Message-ID: <003701c5a384$118952b0$6401a8c0 [at] chris>
In-Reply-To: <list-24257697 [at] prxy.net>

My audio professor sometime ago told me the reason to mike the electric
guitar amp is that most of the sound that is the guitar comes from the
noise of the amp, and the response of the speaker.

My .02
Chris Warner

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of ken
frederickson
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:29 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: MIKED GUITAR AMPS

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

WHEN MIC'ING GUITARS-WHAT ARE THE PRO'S AND CONS OF 
GOING OFF OF THE AMP VS DIRECT TO THE BOARD?  I HAVE
ALWAYS GONE OFF OF THE AMP. 


		
____________________________________________________
Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs 
 


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