Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 24333026; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:02:03 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #493 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:01:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #493 1. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two by JDruc3737 [at] aol.com 2. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies by "Paul Schreiner" 3. Color perception by "Steven Haworth" 4. Re: Quilters quilt by Stephen Litterst 5. Dis trot by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 6. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 7. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat r eplies by "Immel,Patrick" 8. Re: Color perception by Herrick Goldman 9. Re: Dis trot by Herrick Goldman 10. Re: Dis trot by Jerry Durand 11. Seeking scenic artist in Cincinnati, Ohio by Stuart Wheaton 12. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies by "C. Dopher" 13. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two by "C. Dopher" 14. Re: Low grids - was Grid System by "C. Dopher" 15. Re: Dis trot by Noah Price 16. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies by Bruce Purdy 17. MIKED GUITAR AMPS by CB 18. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies by CB 19. Top Posting (was:Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repe by CB 20. Re: Quilters quilt by CB 21. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies by Bruce Purdy 22. Re: Top Posting (was:Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: re by Scott Parker 23. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeatreplies by Scott Parker 24. Quilters by "David R. Krajec" 25. Re: Low grids - was Grid System by "Christopher K. Nimm" 26. Re: Low grids - was Grid System by "Chris Warner" 27. Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeatreplies by Bruce Purdy *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDruc3737 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1d8.433afd55.3035dc47 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:42:47 EDT Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two Actually, if I'm not mistaken (it happens), Rotolocks are a variation of casket locks. The generic casket lock uses a cam to snug and secure the two halves together, while the Simmons Rotolock uses a hook and is a stronger connection. Jeff > jon sez: > A couple of notes, that only a few of us really care about simply for > the sake of accuracy. > > Rotolocks are the Simmons fastener often called a casket lock. The > device used to connect pipe is a Rotalock (note the "A"). Jeffrey Drucker Production Manager Bard College Theater & Dance Depts. 845-758-7956 drucker [at] bard.edu ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:08:50 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C8BE [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Chris, things have changed, if you top post one can have the=20 > info that you=20 > are replying to without having to look the complete original=20 > post up. If one=20 > needs to a line by line or paragraph comments then we read it=20 > all again. Problem number one with top posting...which was so readily illustrated by your own reply: there's a tendency, when top posting, to not trim anything afterwards at all. Then, when you hit send, and people get the digest version, they end up re-reading the entire original again needlessly anyway. I'm with Chris on this one. Bottom-posting is much more intuitive, and it's easier to keep up the practice of judicious quoting of earlier posts, rather than en masse reposting of entire replies earlier in the thread. Than again, YMMV. (BTW, thanks, Noah...didn't realize that digesters made up 60% of the list. I'd have expected more like 1/3!) ------------------------------ Subject: Color perception Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:48:33 -0500 Message-ID: <5D5187063B6B8B46A99E8C0D36E0EB097B5AEA [at] danube.river.idm.com> From: "Steven Haworth" Got this from another list I'm on - an amazing web site on how we = perceive color: = http://www.echalk.co.uk/amusements/OpticalIllusions/colourPerception/colo= urPerception.html - Steven (sjh [at] idm.com) --------------------------- http://www.stagelights.info ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:21:06 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Quilters quilt In-reply-to: Cc: sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu Message-id: <4304A762.8010600 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > Does anybody have a source for renting the quilt and all the > blocks used in Quilters? I'm asking for someone else. We did the > show here in 1991, and rented a really nice quilt for it, but I've > forgotten who we got it from. We have one here at Ithaca College. I just checked with our Costume Shop Manager and she's willing to rent it out. Contact me off list if you're interested. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: Dis trot Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:34:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050818173444.ICAZ21470.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> Me no be getty maily... ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 19:11:17 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c5a44a$26c3aba0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-reply-to: > I'm with Chris on this one. Bottom-posting is much more > intuitive, A: Top posters Q: What's the most annoying thing on the Internet? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE390244ACC37 [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu> From: "Immel,Patrick" Subject: RE: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat r eplies Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:31:17 -0500 -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey E. Salzberg To: Stagecraft Sent: 8/18/2005 6:11 PM > I'm with Chris on this one. Bottom-posting is much more > intuitive, >A: Top posters > >Q: What's the most annoying thing on the Internet? Can I call a halt to this thread! It is *this* close to becomming petty and childish! Pat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 19:31:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Color perception From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Yes but how do we predict it? On 8/18/05 9:48 AM, "Steven Haworth" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Got this from another list I'm on - an amazing web site on how we perceive > color: > http://www.echalk.co.uk/amusements/OpticalIllusions/colourPerception/colourPer > ception.html > > > - Steven (sjh [at] idm.com) > --------------------------- > http://www.stagelights.info > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:07:09 -0400 Subject: Re: Dis trot From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Yes Me thinky the Prices hit a bump somewhere as my e-mail is hosted on Noah's server and it all came thru in a lump. On 8/18/05 1:34 PM, "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Me no be getty maily... > > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050818171924.0298e3d0 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:22:11 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Dis trot In-Reply-To: References:

At 05:07 PM 8/18/2005, you wrote: >Yes Me thinky the Prices hit a bump somewhere as my e-mail is hosted on >Noah's server and it all came thru in a lump. Me think U R right. Noah runs our backup mail server and looking at our log files I see we didn't hear from him from 23:25:26 last night until 12:54:12 today...quite a gap without junk mail! (Spammers often send mail through the backup server hoping it's dumber than the main server.) -- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <430529ED.8070201 [at] fuse.net> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:38:05 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Seeking scenic artist in Cincinnati, Ohio Posting at the request of my employer: River City Scenic, a professional scene shop in Cincinnati Ohio, is seeking a scenic artist. We build scenery for Cruise Lines, Theme parks, Theatre and Industrial Theatre. River City Scenic is a growing, dynamic company, currently in the process of outgrowing our third shop in ten years, the potential is high for continued growth. The ideal candidate should have experience in theatrical painting, carving/sculpting, maintenance and use of airbrushes and spray guns, and the day-to-day operation of a paint shop. There is potential for travel from time to time, so having a valid passport would be a plus. For more information on the job, or to arrange an interview, contact Mr. Don Holbrook at dholbrook [at] rivercityscenic.com or call (513) 793-5404. If you want to see the sort of stuff we do, visit www.rivercityscenic.com, or look at the inside front cover of any recent Rose Brand catalog. If you have any questions about the shop or Cincinnati in general, I'll be happy to answer, But don't ask me about specifics related to the job, 'cuz I'm just the welder/electrician. Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:00:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8F32CD9F-0527-482E-B345-8C314752B406 [at] theprices.net> On 8/17/05 10:49 AM, "Noah Price" wrote: > Chris is speaking for the (roughly 60%) digest subscribers who have > to scroll through the extra text whether it's at the top or the bottom. I recently discovered the neat Mailing List Manager feature with Burst mode that someone here clued me in on. Tastes like peaches. Now I read only the messages that interest me. The ones with subject names indicating a path I don't want to follow: BALETED! Cris Dopher, LD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:07:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001c5a33c$79aaa940$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> On 8/17/05 11:00 AM, "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" wrote: > Let's assume a 14' grid (There are certainly lower ones out there, but in > those cases, the LD has problems far worse than a 2" (I rounded up, for > convenience's sake) differential in height) and a 45 degree angle of > incidence. Etc. I didn't mention the pipe height differences as an obstacle to getting footcandles or an even wash. I don't give a crap about 6" differences usually, much less two. Enough guerilla theatre in this town teaches you that. All that matters is what hits the stage, in the end. It's purely aesthetic to me; the overall quality of an installation and its maintenance indicates a lot to me about how seriously the house takes its job. And yeah, I still like to see a clean, smooth grid and a clean, neat hang on it. Seems to me that's more a function of staff quality, rather than time. But I appreciate your efforts Jeff. You're more of a stickler than I in this regard (math). And how 'bout that goddamn focus at The Connelly? I'm still annoyed; but it's not the worse thing that's happened to me at the Fringe. Cris Dopher, LD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:24:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Low grids - was Grid System From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5D5187063B6B8B46A99E8C0D36E0EB097B5ADA [at] danube.river.idm.com> On 8/17/05 11:15 AM, "Steven Haworth" wrote: > I'm building a grid soon that's 14' above the floor, but only 12' above = > the stage. The grid pipes will be sitting on the lower cords of the = > ceiling trusses, so I should be able to overhang and get a little more = > height. But it will be a pain... at this point the extra-wide lens for = > S4-pars are looking pretty good, as are wide-flood pars are 50-deg S4s. = > Short of the spendy 90-deg Selecon units (probably beyond this budget), = > I'm not sure what else to spec. 6" fresnels at 500W Birdies A handful of 3" fresnels for nook lighting Ministrips A couple of moving mirrors for S4 Forget 90-degree units, way too much money for the use they'll get, IMO. Consider lamping your S4 units at 375W, with a few 575W lamps in stock for punching through more saturated colors. Good luck, Steve Cris Dopher, LD ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <97D371AC-7525-406A-A4F8-1D233ADBB584 [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: Dis trot Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:20:40 -0700 On Aug 18, 2005, at 5:07 PM, Herrick Goldman wrote: > Yes Me thinky the Prices hit a bump somewhere as my e-mail is > hosted on > Noah's server and it all came thru in a lump. Still figuring out why, but the virus scanner kept quitting so mail stayed obediently queued up waiting to be scanned. Good news, no viruses. Bad news, no mail :-) Noah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:40:22 -0400 Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Can I call a halt to this thread! It is *this* close to becomming petty and > childish! It's only petty if you do *not* get the digest version! Try switching to digest for a week or two and see if your opinion doesn't change! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050818204745.00cda0b0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:47:45 From: CB Subject: MIKED GUITAR AMPS >WHEN MIC'ING GUITARS-WHAT ARE THE PRO'S AND CONS OF >GOING OFF OF THE AMP VS DIRECT TO THE BOARD? I HAVE >ALWAYS GONE OFF OF THE AMP. DI's (Direct Inject) boxes have their uses, but ya gotta know what you're doing. Micin the amp, in some cases can add color to the sound. Taking the signal upstream of a Marshall stack driven into distortion would miss all the distortion. Some amps have a lot of the guitar sound prcessing in the amp itself. Taking the DI feed from the line output of the amp would pick this up, but taking it right out of the guit itself would miss it. If the amp is adding undesirable color DI it, if it isn't use a decent mic and you should be OK. Usually (as in, not always) the signals bleeding into the guit amp mic are so far below the amp's signal itself as to be negligable, but if they become a problem, a DI is one way to cure it. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050818204953.00cda0b0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:49:53 From: CB Subject: RE: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies >It is a lot of work for me to bottom post. My reply dialog puts me on top >with my sig. Do you have an email client that puts you at the bottom when >you click reply? No, I cut and paste the portion of the digest that I wish to reply about, and compose an entirely new e-mail. Just thinking about the happy digesters out there makes it far less tedious, and I tend not to worry about the milliseconds of my life that I'll never get back. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050818205430.00cda0b0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:54:30 From: CB Subject: Top Posting (was:Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies) So, y'all prefer to see this? There are times when my reply is to three or four things in a post, and I tend to format the rply thusly >snip my input >snip 2 Input the second >snip 3 Input C If I were to reverse that process, (i.e., my input first, snip follow) that wouldn't be confusing? >Chris, things have changed, if you top post one can have the info that you >are replying to without having to look the complete original post up. If one >needs to a line by line or paragraph comments then we read it all again. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050818205731.00cda0b0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:57:31 From: CB Subject: Re: Quilters quilt Contact info at >You'll need to go >to their website for contact info however. Sorry. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:19:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > It is a lot of work for me to bottom post. My reply dialog puts me on top > with my sig. Do you have an email client that puts you at the bottom when > you click reply? Now that I'm on "Individual message mode" I simply hit "Reply", then highlight and delete the message except for the sentence or paragraph to which I'm replying. Then I move my cursor to the bottom and type my reply. Is this too much work? I'd have to be mighty lazy to think so! I use Outlook Express - perhaps whatever program you're using isn't as easy to use, I don't know. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c998050818213359aa6b3e [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:33:22 -0400 From: Scott Parker Subject: Re: Top Posting (was:Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeat replies) In-Reply-To: References: Not if I were following the thread in order. The message you would be referring to would have been the last one I read on the subject. As for the digest: Sorry, I prefer to receive each email for this main reason... I can ignore entire discussions. When I read a message that is part of a thread and I need additional info, I'll back track a few messages. I know some people have changed their mailing list email to gmail, including me. This sorts in order and minimizes all the messages in a thread that I've already read. Before I changed, I was using Eudora Pro and I still have my own set of archives to search. Using Eudora, I could sort by thread/subject name, sender and/or date. None of these message management methods are available to me using the dige= st. >=20 > If I were to reverse that process, (i.e., my input first, snip follow) th= at > wouldn't be confusing? >=20 > --=20 Take care, Scott ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c998050818213714659f9d [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:37:49 -0400 From: Scott Parker Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeatreplies In-Reply-To: References:

For me it's not about posting, it's about reading.. Bottom posting requires scrolling down most of the time. Top posts are right there in my preview window. I get to decide quickly how far into the message I wish to read. I get to hit archive quickly. Best of all, I don't have to re-read anything just to get some body's "me too" comment. On 8/19/05, Bruce Purdy wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > > It is a lot of work for me to bottom post.=20 > Is this too much work? I'd have to be mighty lazy to think so! I use > Outlook Express - perhaps whatever program you're using isn't as easy to > use, I don't know. >=20 --=20 Take care, Scott =09Scott C. Parker =09Professor/Technical Director =09Dept. of Performing Arts =09Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University =09Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F =09Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza=20 =09New York, NY 10038 =09212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "David R. Krajec" Subject: Quilters Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:01:42 -0500 Message-ID: In-reply-to: Try University of Wisconsin - Black River Falls They had the whole show in a box. Very nice. Don't know if they still have it, though. David K. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003401c5a482$60b0f240$6701a8c0 [at] tamiasuis> From: "Christopher K. Nimm" References: Subject: Re: Low grids - was Grid System Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:53:51 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Dopher" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Low grids - was Grid System > 6" fresnels at 500W > Birdies > A handful of 3" fresnels for nook lighting > Ministrips > A couple of moving mirrors for S4 > > Forget 90-degree units, way too much money for the use they'll get, IMO. > > Consider lamping your S4 units at 375W, with a few 575W lamps in stock for > punching through more saturated colors. > > Good luck, Steve > > Cris Dopher, LD I hope that this thread hasn't contained a lot of tips for low-height lighting that I've missed--it's something that I could always stand to learn more about. Mainly, I'm interested in two topics for now: 1) How do you use the ministrips (lighting areas? scenic elements?) 2) What are "Birdies" and how are those used? Thanks, Chris Nimm ------------------------------ From: "Chris Warner" Subject: RE: Low grids - was Grid System Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:33:48 -0700 Message-ID: <000101c5a487$f4dd6f20$6401a8c0 [at] chris> In-Reply-To: 1) How do you use the ministrips (lighting areas? scenic elements?) how you use things is personal preference. I use them primarily for scenic elements, and ground row cyc lights, occasionally has sky cyc lights as well. 2) What are "Birdies" and how are those used? Birdies are PAR16 (can't remember the designation anymore) lighting fixtures that behave similar to a standard par can, but are VERY tiny. Primarily used for hiding them inside scenery to get that "ANGLE" you can't get by hanging a fixture from the grid. I work in short grids all the time, 12' and 10'. I have found that 50 degree fixtures from about 8-10' away work surprisingly well. Fresnels are your friends. I find that in most of the spaces I work in now, I tend to RUN OUT of fixtures before I run out dimmers, and that's at 24 and 30 dimmers. Hope I was able to shed some light on the subject Chris Warner -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: 8/18/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:32:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Large sigs and RE: repeat RE: RE: repeat RE: RE: RE: repeatreplies From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Scott Parker wrote: > Bottom posting requires scrolling down most of the time. Top posts are right >there in my preview window. Did you have to scroll down to read this? Your problem isn't with bottom posting - it's with excessive quoting! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #493 *****************************