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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #495

 1. Tornados in Wisc.
    by Michael Powers <mptecdir [at] gmail.com>
 2. repeating request
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
 3. Info on St Clements needed
    by "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" <rfinkels [at] msn.com>
 4. Re: Info on St Clements needed
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
 5. Re: Low grids - was Grid System
    by "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
 6. Re: rehearsal mirrors & sprung floor
    by "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
 7. Re: House lighting in a small black box
    by "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
 8. Re: Thoughts on Knots?
    by "Jerry Dougherty" <jerrydougherty [at] earthlink.net>
 9. Re: Thoughts on Knots?
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
10. Re: Tornados in Wisc.
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
11. Bottom posting/top posting
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
12. Re: Top Posting
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
13. Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
14. Re: Tornados in Wisc.
    by "Mike Rock" <rockm [at] new.rr.com>
15. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by "Steve B." <sbmtbike [at] optonline.net>
16. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
17. Re: fight choreographers
    by "Donald Robert Fox" <dsgnrlight [at] hotmail.com>
18. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
19. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
20. Microvision (was Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival)
    by James Feinberg <feinberg [at] sandiego.edu>
21. Re: Info on St Clements needed
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
22. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
23. top posting
    by <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org>
24. Re: Thoughts on Knots?
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
25. Re: Thoughts on Knots?
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
26. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
27. Re: Thoughts on Knots?
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
28. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
29. Another SM job Posting Urinetown on Cape Cod
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
30. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
31. Re: House lighting in a small black box
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
32. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
33. Re: Thoughts on Knots?
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
34. Fw: Guardian Unlimited: Festival diary 
    by Stuart Baulch <stuart [at] thedevilyouknow.ca>
35. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
36. Re: Guardian Unlimited: Festival diary 
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
37. Re: Thoughts on Knots?
    by "Jerry Dougherty" <jerrydougherty [at] earthlink.net>
38. Re: Thoughts on Knots?
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
39. Re: Thoughts on Knots?
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
40. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by "Laura McMeley" <LMcMeley [at] msn.com>
41. Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>

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Message-ID: <58f67b0f05082008197db4075a [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:19:10 -0400
From: Michael Powers <mptecdir [at] gmail.com>
Cc: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Subject: Tornados in Wisc.

Kristi,

I just heard about the tornados there!  Wow 18 in a single day!  Hope
they all missed and you and yours are all OK!
--=20
Michael

Michael Powers
413-863-4376 home
413-522-3036  cell

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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1fe.8345136.3038a495 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:21:57 EDT
Subject: repeating request

Friends, 

I am going to repeat my request of last week, 

If anyone has a soft set /  drop for the finale of A CHORUS LINE, , 

needs to be a minimum of 40 x 20, , better too large than too small! 

please get in touch with me off list.

very best,

Keith Arsenault

IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group 

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Message-ID: <BAY106-F1001FAC3F49258349752C3C7B40 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" <rfinkels [at] msn.com>
Subject: Info on St Clements needed
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:39:07 -0400

I am working on a production at St. Clements in New York as part of the NY 
Musical Theatre Festival and I am wondering if anyone on the list might have 
any kind of CAD groundplan or section from the space.

Various producers have sent me the same scanned in image of an 1/8" 
groundplan but the interesting thing is that each scan is a different size!  
(up to 4 feet in scale variation). I designed a show there in 1994 and have 
my own CAD from that era which did allow me, when printed out at 1/8" scale, 
to overlay and figure out which of the new scans was most accurate, but I 
have heard that St. Clements has been remodled and reconfigured since I was 
last there and what they sent does not include the lighting/rigging grid so 
I wouldn't know where to hang scenery.

Simultaneous to this note I will also be e-mailing other designers in the 
festival venue to see what they may have.  Unfortunately I live over 6 hours 
drive away and am in the middle of seven shows in various stages of 
development so alas a walk-through is not likely to happen.   What I am most 
interested in at the moment is the overhead pipe locations, the hight of 
these above the stage and the height of the stage itself as that is a new 
feature since the 1990s.

Thanks in advance if any of you have anything on this to share.

Richard Finkelstein
http://www.rfdesigns.org/



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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:02:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Info on St Clements needed
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF2CCC6F.67E3%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24351052 [at] prxy.net>

Richard,

I was the venue LD for the St. Clements for NYMF last year and am still
heavily involved with the festival. I'll send you my last year's
Vectorworks. 

The pipes in there are "fluid" and may not match from year to year. You
should contact your venue LD Traci Klainer as she has done a more recent
site survey. 

What show are you doing?

For the rest of you. I'll be putting in a plea for skilled electricians for
the NYMF load in and tech weeks. It's a fun festival. I get to design "Wild
Women of planet Wongo" and  "Rooms"

I'll write something up formally very soon. But for now, those of you with
students local to NYC keep it in mind.

Www.nymf.org



On 8/20/05 11:39 AM, "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" <rfinkels [at] msn.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> I am working on a production at St. Clements in New York as part of the NY
> Musical Theatre Festival and I am wondering if anyone on the list might have
> any kind of CAD groundplan or section from the space.
> 
> Various producers have sent me the same scanned in image of an 1/8"
> groundplan but the interesting thing is that each scan is a different size!
> (up to 4 feet in scale variation). I designed a show there in 1994 and have
> my own CAD from that era which did allow me, when printed out at 1/8" scale,
> to overlay and figure out which of the new scans was most accurate, but I
> have heard that St. Clements has been remodled and reconfigured since I was
> last there and what they sent does not include the lighting/rigging grid so
> I wouldn't know where to hang scenery.
> 
> Simultaneous to this note I will also be e-mailing other designers in the
> festival venue to see what they may have.  Unfortunately I live over 6 hours
> drive away and am in the middle of seven shows in various stages of
> development so alas a walk-through is not likely to happen.   What I am most
> interested in at the moment is the overhead pipe locations, the hight of
> these above the stage and the height of the stage itself as that is a new
> feature since the 1990s.
> 
> Thanks in advance if any of you have anything on this to share.
> 
> Richard Finkelstein
> http://www.rfdesigns.org/
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date:	Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:12:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Low grids - was Grid System
From:	"C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
Message-ID: <BF2CDCCA.1CB85%brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV43256250DC8298FC69754BDB50 [at] phx.gbl>

On 8/19/05 3:57 PM, "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

> They Do a better job of keeping the door closed, other wise you have to trip
> over them. Sometimes they make good foot lites but that about all, but the
> effort of keeping them working normally rules that out too.

Are you slammin' mah boyz??

You do not yet realize the power of the dark si--... Uh, the ministrip!

Cris Dopher


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Message-ID: <008301c5a5b2$77bcf0c0$6601a8c0 [at] BCA1>
Reply-To: "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
From: "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
Subject: Re: rehearsal mirrors & sprung floor
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:10:27 -0500

I was surprised by the prices reported.  I have usually estimate these in 
the $20-35 per sq ft range.  Currently, I have an orchestra pit lift being 
retrofitted in a high school (rural area) and the cost of that sprung floor 
is around $35 - higher than most because it is small (400 sq ft), irregular 
shape (typical three straight sides and curved front), and includes a 
somewhat fussy edge detail all around.  Included are neoprene pads, 2X 
sleepers, double ply layer, and a very nice 5/4 southern yellow pine strip 
flooring finished with stain and sealer.  I believe that ply with hardboard 
or a different underlayment and some sheet goods would be less than the 
stripwood surface.  The remainder of the stage - 3500 sq ft or so - was done 
by same floor contractor 6 or 7 years ago for less than $25 sq ft - same 
system.

Regards,  Bill

 


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Message-ID: <008401c5a5b4$00137a60$6601a8c0 [at] BCA1>
Reply-To: "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
From: "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
Subject: Re: House lighting in a small black box
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:21:30 -0500

I was surprised by the number of people that approved of a discharge lamp 
for work light.  I got backed into that in a recent project - from usual 
fluorescent - and users are unhappy since they like to be able to turn 
worklights of and on frequently.  The problem of course is the fluorescents 
look bad - even above catwalks or grid.  One project has them screened 
behind black scrim.  I'm not sure but believe if I were running the space 
and good get around energy issues, I wouldn't use scoops or pars for work 
lights.

I agree with the S4PAR as the basic houselight in a black box - just make it 
part of hang for each show.  Back and fourth on dedicated circuits - depends 
on users and if they can keep numbers straight or if they need help of 
dedicated house light circuits.  Other option I like - if there is a 
perimeter low gallery or catwalk - is to use down light cans permanently 
wired and on transfer.  Usually this will work out to meet emergency egress 
illumination requirements.

I like the quartz floods on an emergency transfer switch for emergency 
lighting - and maybe switch and label them for rehearsal - a little less 
ghastly than discharge or fluorescents (after they get relamped with 
cheapest cool whites available) and useful for painting.

Bill



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Reply-To: <jerrydougherty [at] earthlink.net>
From: "Jerry Dougherty" <jerrydougherty [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Knots?
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:12:06 -0700
Message-ID: <MHEOINPGEFHMGIMFIHIHOEENCBAA.jerrydougherty [at] earthlink.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-24348131 [at] prxy.net>

SNIP-

If you could take only twenty knots with you to that mythological desert
island theatre, which would you take and why?


Here are my knot recommendations (in a bottom posted format) and why:

1. The Figure Eight - multipurpose knot that retains, on average 80% of the
strength of the rope when used to join or create mid line loops.  One down
side, it's a bitch to untie once under load.
2. Figure Eight on a Bight - end loop in a rope with 80% efficiency.
3.  Barrel Knot - only true backup knot (and a knot truly isn't tied until
it has a backup) that won't fall out in situations where tension is applied
and released repeatedly.
4.  Bowline - Faster and easier that a Figure Eight on a Bight, but not as
efficient (only 70%).  Is susceptible to slipping when tension is applied
and released.  Should always be tied with a safety back-up.
5.  Butterfly Knot - superior to the trucker's hitch because you can use it
to tie a loop mid-line that is omni directional.  Retains 75% of a system
load.

Now since you didn't specifically ask, I assume you still are interested in
bends and hitches as well, so here goes:

The Bends:

6. Figure Eight Bend - Short of a splice (no pun intended), a figure eight
is the best way to join two ropes, again because of the 80% efficiency.
Given the choice though, I would indoctrinate students so they use the
proper length of rope instead.
7. Double Fisherman's Bend - Join two ropes of unequal diameter.  80%
efficiency.
8. Water Knot - teach this knot judiciously, because it is easier to tie
than the Figure Eight Bend or the Double Fisherman's Bend but yields only
65% efficiency.  It is, however, the only way to build slings from flat
webbing.  I know OSHA doesn't approve, but there are time when rigging small
effects and the like where it is useful.

The Hitches:
9. Clove Hitch - What can I say, other than to warn you of the 60%
efficiency.  This is the only down side of a clove hitch, but there is no
better option when you must attach a rope to something.
10. Rolling Hitch - Similar to a clove hitch, but tied with a full turn at
the start.  Works if the rope you are tying to is under some sort of tension
already.
11. Prusik Hitch - Need a loop under a line with tension in it already?  The
Prusik Hitch is the knot for you. OK so this is an old theatre knot that we
call a Sunday Knot.  Very useful when building a anchor system for a carpet
hoist or as a safety tie off on the operating lines of a counterweight
system.

Finally...

12.  With no rigging application at all, a square knot is useful for tying
cravats into slings and securing Carlisle bandages, but you may wish to save
that for the first aid section of class.  A knot with only 50% efficiency,
which the square knot and it's brother the sheet bend have, has very limited
use in my kit bag.

With the new rigging certification, I would imagine that being able to
identify the knot in a field of four from a picture or line drawing is going
to be a necessary skill since I can't see the little old ladies in tennis
shoes at test centers nationwide busting out a piece of rope from their desk
and making you tie ten knots for them.  Take that to the next level and
students should be able to not only tie these knots, but identify them by
name in a system and point out whether they are tied properly.

Other thoughts on knots:

- The four steps to tying a knot: 1. Tie, 2. Dress, 3. Set, 4. Check (5.
Backup)
- It's not tied until it has a backup.
- Neatness counts.  All of the efficiency ratings go down with sloppy knot.
- Systems fail at knots.  They introduce extreme bending into the system.
Pay attention to knot efficiency.
- Accidents happen because of human error.  Assess the problem and use the
correct rope, hardware and knots.  When in doubt, do the math.  If the math
says use wire rope, use wire rope.
- Mechanical advantage (block and falls) changes all of the forces.  Do the
math.


Jerry


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050820121519.00cddf40 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:15:19
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Knots?

>If you could take only twenty knots with you to that mythological desert 
>island theatre, which would you take and why?

four truckers hitches, five bowlines, six square knots, four clove hitches
and a monkey's fist.
'Cause if I can't get it done with those, I don't belong there.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Tornados in Wisc.
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:33:48 -0600
In-Reply-To: <list-24350751 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000024353194 [at] prxy.net>

Likewise, because I am going to be doing two days of workshops there, soon.
Doom

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Michael
Powers
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:19 AM
To: Stagecraft
Cc: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Subject: Tornados in Wisc.

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Kristi,

I just heard about the tornados there!  Wow 18 in a single day!  Hope
they all missed and you and yours are all OK!
-- 
Michael

Michael Powers
413-863-4376 home
413-522-3036  cell


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050820122429.00cddf40 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:24:29
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Bottom posting/top posting

>Why should I make it easy for a lazy person. I
>am sure no one is going to make anything easy for me.


This is the attitude of soemone that posts here and works in theatre?  I
thought that was only 'outside'...
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050820123331.00cddf40 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:33:31
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Top Posting

>Who is Isit and what do they have to say about etiquette?

I was referring to the plethora of posters who reply to a post by simply
hitting the 'reply' key on their e-mail program, typing their thoughts and
hitting the 'send' key, with no thought to how much extraeneous flotsam
they are sending to the digest users.  This is agianst the rules as posted
on the 'Dos and Don'ts' page they (should) have read when they joined the
list, and just plain incondiderate.  
As the 'rules' don't stipulate top or bottom posting, I went with what I
was taught, (answer follows question) until it was brought to my attention
that this method may not be the best.  I then offered a bit of an informal
poll to see if it was, in fact, a nuisance.  So far, I've been told by
many, on and off the list, that top or bottom is inconsequential if you
trim your replies and post with manners.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:03:59 -0400
Subject: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF2D04EF.67FC%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>

Hey folks,

As you may have read in an earlier post I'm designing a few shows for the
NYMF again this season. 30 shows in 5 venues in 3 weeks. Most of them rep up
to 6 shows at a time. Its a huge challenge.

Www.NYMF.org

We're looking for load in crew on 9/8, 9/9, 9/12 and probably a few on 9/6,
9/7. Also many of the shows are looking for run crews, spot ops, ASM's
etc...

Officially we need the load in Crew. It pays $20 an hour and the crew should
be experienced in theatrical tech. Basically if you can use a wrench and
climb a ladder we can use you. This is  a great gig for folks just out of
college or who can spend a couple of full days out of school in September.

Potential crew members must be able to work the full day 8am-midnight (it
may not run that long)

For more information contact Rick Bloom Festival PM at
Rick Bloom <rick.bloom [at] nymf.org> (mention the stagecraft list if you would)

If you have a flexible schedule and want to do more than just load in,
please let Rick know. Spot ops, ASM's etc..do not necessarily get $20 and
hour. It is a festival after all. However this is the same festival that
Altar Boys and Trailer Park came out of last year.  You'll get to work with
such illustrious designers as: Goldman, Finkelstein, Klainer, Lyons, Holder,
Bookman and more. 

The festival needs people in general so even if you are into costumes, PR,
front of house, GM whatever I bet there's someone who needs a hand.

You can also e-mail me for more info but Rick is the man to talk to.

-herrick

 
-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Message-ID: <000701c5a5d4$56764b10$e3491745 [at] Mikes>
From: "Mike Rock" <rockm [at] new.rr.com>
Cc: doomster [at] worldnet.att.net
References: <list-24353195 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Tornados in Wisc.
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:13:04 -0700

I also live in the Dairy state and as far as I know there was little damage
in the fox cities area, but I have been a little discounted at best becasue
of the summer season. My brother who lives in
Madison said there was some damage by him.

Mike



> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Likewise, because I am going to be doing two days of workshops there,
soon.
> Doom
>



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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:16:16 -0400
From: "Steve B." <sbmtbike [at] optonline.net>
Subject: Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
Message-id: <001001c5a5cc$669fd770$6401a8c0 [at] SBFF>
References: <list-24353486 [at] prxy.net>

How 'bout calling the IA Local 1 hiring hall ?.  They have a goodly many 
folks, many without cards, but trying to get enough work hrs. in the local 
to get benefits.  The rate is better then our house rate, which is under 
Local 1 contract, so I'm sure you'll get folks.

I know that the first thought you're going to have is "Opens up a can of 
worms", the management won't go for it", yada, yada, but the reality is that 
our experience was that Local 1 is very understanding and cooperative with 
theater managers at getting you good people at a reasonable rate, while not 
trying to put the place out of business.

My opinion is that in the first 2 years of our contract, the hiring hall has 
been sending us TERRIFIC people.  The general level of experience is much 
better then when we used word-of-mouth and new walk-in's.

Steve Bailey
Brooklyn College


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Herrick Goldman" <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
>
> As you may have read in an earlier post I'm designing a few shows for the
> NYMF again this season. 30 shows in 5 venues in 3 weeks. Most of them rep 
> up
> to 6 shows at a time. Its a huge challenge.
>
> Www.NYMF.org
>
> We're looking for load in crew on 9/8, 9/9, 9/12 and probably a few on 
> 9/6,
> 9/7. Also many of the shows are looking for run crews, spot ops, ASM's
> etc...
>
> Officially we need the load in Crew. It pays $20 an hour and the crew 
> should
> be experienced in theatrical tech. Basically if you can use a wrench and
> climb a ladder we can use you. This is  a great gig for folks just out of
> college or who can spend a couple of full days out of school in September.
>
> Potential crew members must be able to work the full day 8am-midnight (it
> may not run that long)
>
> For more information contact Rick Bloom Festival PM at
> Rick Bloom <rick.bloom [at] nymf.org> (mention the stagecraft list if you 
> would)
>
> If you have a flexible schedule and want to do more than just load in,
> please let Rick know. Spot ops, ASM's etc..do not necessarily get $20 and
> hour. It is a festival after all. However this is the same festival that
> Altar Boys and Trailer Park came out of last year.  You'll get to work 
> with
> such illustrious designers as: Goldman, Finkelstein, Klainer, Lyons, 
> Holder,
> Bookman and more.
>
> The festival needs people in general so even if you are into costumes, PR,
> front of house, GM whatever I bet there's someone who needs a hand.
>
> You can also e-mail me for more info but Rick is the man to talk to.
>
> -herrick
>
>
> -- 
> Herrick Goldman
> Lighting Designer, NYC
> www.HGLightingDesign.com
> 917-797-3624
> "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
> light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS
>
>
> 



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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:30:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF2D1951.680C%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24354076 [at] prxy.net>

Well there's a thought I never woulda thunk.

Other than obvious break and OT issues on an 8am to midnight call I think it
might work. I'll forward it on.

Thanks Steve. 

Hey is that Microvision busy this fall?

-H


On 8/20/05 5:16 PM, "Steve B." <sbmtbike [at] optonline.net> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> How 'bout calling the IA Local 1 hiring hall ?.
-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Subject: RE: fight choreographers
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:59:23 +0000

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<P>Paul Molnar is someone I would recommend if you are interested drop me an e-mail at <A href="mailto:dsgnrlight [at] hotmail.com">dsgnrlight [at] hotmail.com</A>.&nbsp; <BR><BR></P></DIV><BR><BR><BR>Donald Robert Fox, M.F.A.
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some info on what I could expect to<BR>pay (ballpark&nbsp;&nbsp;figures).<BR><BR>Any help at all would be appreciated.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>Jeffrey Drucker<BR>Production Manager<BR>Bard College<BR>phone&nbsp;&nbsp;845-758-7956<BR>fax 845-758-7925<BR>email drucker [at] bard.edu<BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></div></html>


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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:40:23 -0400
Message-ID: <00be01c5a5d8$2b9bb1b0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell>
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> Hey is that Microvision busy this fall?

Wait...you *want* a Microvision?



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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:49:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF2D2BC1.6815%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24354830 [at] prxy.net>


Let it be known far and wide that I find the Microvision and it's big
brother the FX to be an incredibly useful console in many venues that I work
in. I was raised on the thing and when my hands caress it's metallic candy
dot keys or rub against it's faux marble wheel.....I feel young again like
when the world was new.  Yes I've moved on to the HogII, The Virtuoso, and
the GrandMA but I can still make that little pink board jump thru hoops with
my eyes closed.  And while I won't necessarily spend a ton of $$ to rent or
buy one I do indeed have many uses for it.

-H

Ah Microvision
How I love your buttons
And the marble wheel

For more Microvision Haikus please visit www.etcconsolepoetry.com



On 8/20/05 6:40 PM, "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
>> Hey is that Microvision busy this fall?
> 
> Wait...you *want* a Microvision?
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Message-Id: <cb9be8ad64fbf2a63cad190d3477dc44 [at] sandiego.edu>
From: James Feinberg <feinberg [at] sandiego.edu>
Subject: Microvision (was Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:28:04 -0700

I found myself looking for a Microvision recently when spec'ing a 
lighting console for our black box theatre.  I ended up with an 
Express, but I really wanted something with similar capabilities but a 
MUCH smaller footprint...

--James Feinberg
University of San Diego

On Aug 20, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Herrick Goldman wrote:

> Let it be known far and wide that I find the Microvision and it's big
> brother the FX to be an incredibly useful console in many venues that 
> I work
> in. I was raised on the thing and when my hands caress it's metallic 
> candy
> dot keys or rub against it's faux marble wheel.....I feel young again 
> like
> when the world was new.  Yes I've moved on to the HogII, The Virtuoso, 
> and
> the GrandMA but I can still make that little pink board jump thru 
> hoops with
> my eyes closed.  And while I won't necessarily spend a ton of $$ to 
> rent or
> buy one I do indeed have many uses for it.
>
> -H


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References: <list-24351052 [at] prxy.net> <list-24351267 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:12:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Info on St Clements needed
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> For the rest of you. I'll be putting in a plea for skilled electricians
> for the NYMF load in and tech weeks. It's a fun festival. I get to design
> "Wild Women of planet Wongo" and  "Rooms"

When does this happen? What is your definition of "skilled electrician"
for this festival? Does it pay?

Bill


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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:18:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> Officially we need the load in Crew. It pays $20 an hour and the crew
> should
> be experienced in theatrical tech. Basically if you can use a wrench and
> climb a ladder we can use you. This is  a great gig for folks just out of
> college or who can spend a couple of full days out of school in September.

I could probably get two to three weeks free, but I live in Oregon. I
suspect that air fare would eat up most of the pay.

If food and housing included?

Bill


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From: <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org>
References: <list-24348131 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: top posting
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:23:51 -0500
Organization: Minnesota Ballet

<As for the digest: Sorry, >
sniff....sniff.....that's ok Chris. thanks for thinking of me. :)

Well, as a digest reader I find this discussion funny since I read it all at 
once. I have to scroll through it all regardless of where it is. However, I 
do find it a bit easier to follow if a very limited snip is on top, followed 
by your reply. It's annoying to have the entire e-mail you are replying to 
be re-posted, especially the long ones.

Ken Pogin
PSM / TM
MN Ballet 



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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:38:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Knots?
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

>>If you could take only twenty knots with you to that mythological desert
>>island theatre, which would you take and why?
>
> four truckers hitches, five bowlines, six square knots, four clove hitches
> and a monkey's fist.
> 'Cause if I can't get it done with those, I don't belong there.

There are a couple of others that are handy, but not used as often.

sheet bend - for quickly fastening two ropes together - even if of
different diameters. I have also seen it referred to as a hawser knot. The
carrick bend is similar.

round turn with two half hitches - good for flying pipe.

knot sometimes called a spar hitch. Good to generate a hanging point on a
vertical spar or pipe.

A monkey's fist is really only good for weighting the end of a rope for
throwing. It is not a good stopper knot.

When I used to teach sailing, about all we ever used were the bowline,
square/reef knot, clove hitch and sheet bend.

Bill




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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 20:43:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Knots?
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BF2D465C.1CE7%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24355869 [at] prxy.net>

Amen.  The rest of the knots are nice, if you're feeling fancy, but the
number of times I've waited for someone to figure out how to tie something
cute when a simple bowling would do.....

Call me old school but I don't think you ever want to lose sight of the
K.I.S.S. principle.

Bill S.

www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561 mobile






On 8/20/05 8:38 PM, "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> When I used to teach sailing, about all we ever used were the bowline,
> square/reef knot, clove hitch and sheet bend.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 



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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 20:44:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BF2D46B4.1CE8%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24355677 [at] prxy.net>

Hmmmm.  This is at St. Clement's, right.  Hey Herrick, isn't that shelter
still open across the street?

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561 mobile


On 8/20/05 8:18 PM, "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org> wrote:

> If food and housing included?



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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:57:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Knots?
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
Cc: jerrydougherty [at] earthlink.net

> 1. The Figure Eight - multipurpose knot that retains, on average 80% of
> the
> strength of the rope when used to join or create mid line loops.  One down
> side, it's a bitch to untie once under load.

You must be talking about a different knot that I know by that name. The
one I know is used for a stopper knot.

> 4.  Bowline - Faster and easier that a Figure Eight on a Bight, but not as
> efficient (only 70%).  Is susceptible to slipping when tension is applied
> and released.  Should always be tied with a safety back-up.

I have never seen a tightly tied bowline slip - even in modern synthetics.
We use it for tying sheets to jibs - and they often flap. Also tension is
released every time the boat is tacked.

> The Hitches:
> 9. Clove Hitch - What can I say, other than to warn you of the 60%
> efficiency.  This is the only down side of a clove hitch, but there is no
> better option when you must attach a rope to something.

The problem with a clove hitch is that it can unroll if you pull the
standing part around the post. It can also shake loose if not kept under
load.

Bill


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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 20:56:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF2D498E.6821%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24355677 [at] prxy.net>

Bill,

No we can't do food and housing in NYC. The talent pool is too deep here.


On 8/20/05 8:18 PM, "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> I could probably get two to three weeks free, but I live in Oregon. I
> suspect that air fare would eat up most of the pay.
> 
> If food and housing included?
> 
> Bill
> 
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:00:29 -0400
Subject: Another SM job Posting Urinetown on Cape Cod
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF2D4A6D.6822%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>


I'm posting for a friend. However I am doing the Lighting Design.

The theatre is lovely the people are great. Need I mention the water is 200
yards from the shop door?

Begin:  immediately
Open:  Sept 22
Close Oct 22
Run :  Thurs, Fri, Sat at 8pm and Sun at 2 pm (except first weekend)
Duties:  All ordinary duties of SM except for initial paperwork which
has been completed (contact sheets, rehearsal conflicts, initial sched)
Run rehearsals, tech and call show.
Housing provided
Travel reimb. up to $150.00
Fee: $ 700.00

Contact Janine Perry Janine Perry <janine.perry [at] verizon.net>


-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:01:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF2D4AB3.6825%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24355985 [at] prxy.net>

The shelter I met you at? Where old toothless Mick doles out the soup. Yup
It's still there. Ah the memories.


On 8/20/05 8:44 PM, "Bill Sapsis" <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Hmmmm.  This is at St. Clement's, right.  Hey Herrick, isn't that shelter
> still open across the street?
> 
> Bill S.
> www.sapsis-rigging.com
> 800.727.7471
> 800.292.3851  fax
> 267.278.4561 mobile
> 
> 
> On 8/20/05 8:18 PM, "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org> wrote:
> 
>> If food and housing included?
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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References: <list-24352514 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:09:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: House lighting in a small black box
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
Cc: bill-conner [at] att.net (Bill Conner)

> I like the quartz floods on an emergency transfer switch for emergency
> lighting - and maybe switch and label them for rehearsal - a little less
> ghastly than discharge or fluorescents (after they get relamped with
> cheapest cool whites available) and useful for painting.

If any of you have ever lit "Accomplice", there is a scene that is under
work lights. I actually hung quartz floods and used the actual house work
light positions the hangs - rather than simulate the effect with other
instruments. I had to do this as the house work lights are on wall
switches backstage, and I wanted control of the "work lights" from the
board.

I had quite a few people comment after the performances that they had not
realized how much difference there was between plain lighting and a well
lit stage.

Bill


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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:14:03 -0700
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
References: <list-24356292 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-24356292 [at] prxy.net>

Quoting Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>:

>
> The shelter I met you at? Where old toothless Mick doles out the soup. Yup
> It's still there. Ah the memories.

> On 8/20/05 8:44 PM, "Bill Sapsis" <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com> wrote:

>>
>> Hmmmm.  This is at St. Clement's, right.  Hey Herrick, isn't that shelter
>> still open across the street?
>>
>


Now I (think) you guys are joking, but...

I remember doing a job in San Antonio, where across the street from the
Municipal Auditorium was a cafeteria run by the homeless. For 4-5 bucks 
you got
a full meal with a beverage. Everyone downtown seemed to eat there as the food
was great. Sure saved on per-diem...




Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
520-621-7025
520-591-1803 Mobile


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From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Knots?
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:20:37 -0400

> Gotta remember, I was teaching kids in a Catholic middle school and a  
> public
> K-12 schools. But I like your version a lot!!!

Oh, in that case substitute stagehand peeing on the fire hydrant with 
the tech crew member circling the club drug dealer then going back in 
the stage door....  Oh.... is that just my school district, VERY upper 
middle class.  I thought I saw a lot in the day, but now my students 
are teaching me a thing or two.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:23:22 -0400
Subject: Fw: Guardian Unlimited: Festival diary 
References: <20050815161151.15BD63259C [at] mussel.gul3.gnl>
From: Stuart Baulch <stuart [at] thedevilyouknow.ca>
Message-Id: <1124587407.3AAD606E [at] bf12.dngr.org>

My partner a dancer who picked me up at fFIDA
[Fringe Festival of Independent Dance Artists] a couple of years ago, 
spotted this online and forwarded to me. I have no idea what she's 
trying to imply.

Stuart Baulch
PM - fFIDA
Www.fFIDA.org
==========
Festival diary
Monday August 15 2005
The Guardian

Actors, not known for their sexual continence, become spectacularly 
incontinent during the Fringe. The Fringe has all the elements required 
for brief, intense relationships. It is in effect a business conference 
for the arty.

Firstly you have a lot of like-minded, like-clothed people in one place. 
Secondly you have a number of standard introductory lines you can use 
with anybody, for example: "What show are you in?"

Just because the Fringe is one large sexual frisson, don't make the 
mistake of thinking that no rules apply. Foremost of all these rules is 
that no actor will ever sleep with a technician. That is the one act of 
unspeakable sexual depravity that no actor will ever countenance.

One of the reasons there is so much love and affection on the Fringe is 
that most of the productions on it feature weird and passionate sex of 
some description. Were there productions based on new accountancy 
techniques, the sexual temperature of the Fringe (and average audience 
size) would be considerably reduced. Would you queue to see a production 
of Accountancy Perversity in Chicago? You might if there was something 
in there on rear entry book-keeping.

Being on stage is a very sexy thing (unless you're a technician walking 
across the stage, and then it isn't sexy at all). When you're on stage 
it's a pretty good bet that there's one person in the audience who finds 
you attractive in some way. If you only have one person in the audience 
the chances of that are reduced somewhat but the rule still applies.

Finding somewhere to make love on the Fringe is slightly more difficult 
as most people are sleeping on the floor of a cold store with 10 other 
people. However, performers use the same ingenuity in finding venues for 
performing and they do in finding venues to perform. Favourite among 
these are Photo-Me booths, downstairs on open-topped tourist buses and 
inside large wardrobes in John Lewis.

Copyright Guardian Newspapers Limited

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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:29:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF2D514A.682B%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24356462 [at] prxy.net>

Oh I 'm joking at least. You'll find me down the street at Becco.

On 8/20/05 9:14 PM, "Mark O'Brien" <marko [at] email.arizona.edu> wrote:


> 
> Now I (think) you guys are joking, but...
> 
> I remember doing a job in San Antonio, where across the street from the
> Municipal Auditorium was a cafeteria run by the homeless. For 4-5 bucks
> you got
> a full meal with a beverage. Everyone downtown seemed to eat there as the food
> was great. Sure saved on per-diem...
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:42:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Guardian Unlimited: Festival diary 
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF2D5457.6830%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24356546 [at] prxy.net>

Oh good I'm glad to see the Stealth techie sexuality is still hidden. Lets
not let the secret out or everyone will want some.



On 8/20/05 9:23 PM, "Stuart Baulch" <stuart [at] thedevilyouknow.ca> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> (unless you're a technician walking
> across the stage, and then it isn't sexy at all).

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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From: "Jerry Dougherty" <jerrydougherty [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Thoughts on Knots?
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:17:09 -0700
Message-ID: <MHEOINPGEFHMGIMFIHIHIEEPCBAA.jerrydougherty [at] earthlink.net>
In-Reply-To: <26040.69.59.200.119.1124585869.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org>


>> 1. The Figure Eight - multipurpose knot that retains, on average 80% of
>> the
>> strength of the rope when used to join or create mid line loops.  One
down
>> side, it's a bitch to untie once under load.

>You must be talking about a different knot that I know by that name. The
>one I know is used for a stopper knot.

A figure eight is a stopper, but I would opt for the barrel knot because it
has more mass.

There are multiple variations on the figure eight, that is why I consider it
to be the all purpose knot and at the top of the list.  A figure eight on a
bight gets you a fixed loop on the end of the rope and a figure eight
follow-through gets you the same thing around an object.  A figure eight
bend joins two ropes of similar diameter together.  Best thing is all of
these knots retain 80% efficiency.  Splicing is the only way to get more
efficiency.

>> 4.  Bowline - Faster and easier that a Figure Eight on a Bight, but not
as
>> efficient (only 70%).  Is susceptible to slipping when tension is applied
>> and released.  Should always be tied with a safety back-up.

>I have never seen a tightly tied bowline slip - even in modern synthetics.
>We use it for tying sheets to jibs - and they often flap. Also tension is
>released every time the boat is tacked.

I have.  I suspect it had more to do with the quality of the knot in a rope
that was too short, but the uncontrolled fall of several long runs of cable
destined for the grid is something you never want to see.  No one hurt,
everyone learned something that day.   Electricians doing anything close to
rigging often scares me.

>> The Hitches:
>> 9. Clove Hitch - What can I say, other than to warn you of the 60%
>> efficiency.  This is the only down side of a clove hitch, but there is no
>> better option when you must attach a rope to something.

>The problem with a clove hitch is that it can unroll if you pull the
>standing part around the post. It can also shake loose if not kept under
>load.

And an alternative knot would be?  I don't know of one that is simple and
does the same job.  Slippage is why you back things up.

Stage rigging may have it's roots in the nautical world, but there are
better ways to do things.  Shifting the paradigm, if you will.  Open up a
book on rope rescue or mountaineering and you will see.  Just because the
same knots have been in a Parker and Smith text since 1963 doesn't mean they
are the best ones to use today.  Rope research has only been a product of
the last two decades thanks to OSHA, the NFPA, the EU (yes the European
Union), UL (Underwriter's Laboratory), and the UIAA (Union Internationale
des Associations D'Alpinisme).

Jerry





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    <list-24357028 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 20:35:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Knots?
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
Cc: jerrydougherty [at] earthlink.net

>>clove hitch

> And an alternative knot would be?  I don't know of one that is simple and
> does the same job.  Slippage is why you back things up.

There are a number of possibilities. One easy one would be a couple of
round turns (which can be applied under load easier than a clove hitch)
with two half hitches around the standing part.




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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 20:58:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Knots?
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
Cc: jerrydougherty [at] earthlink.net

> A figure eight is a stopper, but I would opt for the barrel knot because
> it has more mass.

The barrel knot I know consists of two sliding knots, used to fasten two
lines together. Given the multiple names given to various knots, it would
not surprise me if there were one that is a stopper.

One problem with a figure eight knot is that it can jamb in the sheave.
Dressing the shape can minimize this risk.

I normally use a stopper that is slightly less likely to jamb. I think
Ashley calls it the double overhand knot. Tie an overhand knot, making two
turns through the loop instead of one. Now draw the knot shut and dress
the shape.

The major difficulty is that it is (like the single overhand knot) hard to
untie after being under stress. It is also harder on the line than the
figure eight.

Bill




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From: "Laura McMeley" <LMcMeley [at] msn.com>
Subject: RE: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 23:02:35 -0500
In-Reply-To: <list-24356462 [at] prxy.net>

Actually the place is run as a charity by a local church. The food is pretty
good though. Or it was last time I was in town.

Laura McMeley
LD, Dallas, TX
972-333-5016

<<I remember doing a job in San Antonio, where across the street from the
Municipal Auditorium was a cafeteria run by the homeless. For 4-5 bucks 
you got
a full meal with a beverage. Everyone downtown seemed to eat there as the
food
was great. Sure saved on per-diem...>>


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From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre Festival
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 02:43:16 -0400
Message-ID: <00c301c5a61b$9f6d85d0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-reply-to: <list-24356462 [at] prxy.net>


> Now I (think) you guys are joking, but...
>=20
> I remember doing a job in San Antonio, where across the=20
> street from the Municipal Auditorium was a cafeteria run by=20
> the homeless.

The Arclight Theatre on W71st in NYC is owned by a Catholic church, with =
the
proceeds used to fund their homeless shelter, right down the hall.



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