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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #497

 1. Reminiscing (was Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre	Festival)
    by "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
 2. Re: Top posting (was: RE: Large sigs etc.)
    by Howard Ires <hi [at] hillinteractive.net>
 3. Re: Top posting (was: RE: Large sigs etc.)
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
 4. Re: Reminiscing (was Re: Crew needed for New York Musical  TheatreFestival)
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
 5. Re: Top posting (was: RE: Large sigs etc.)
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
 6. In memory of
    by Christopher Haas CEHAAS <CEHAAS [at] uncg.edu>
 7. Gondola of Love
    by Phil Blackwood <pfblackwood [at] yahoo.com>
 8. Re: Gondola of Love
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
 9. Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
    by "Jon Lagerquist" <jon [at] lagerquist.com>
10. Re: An incident in Winnipeg
    by "Josh Ratty" <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
11. from the ap -- concert incident
    by Jennie and Jerry Gorrell <theatresafe [at] earthlink.net>
12. Vectorworks power distro symbols
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
13. Re: from the ap -- concert incident
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
14. Re: An incident in Winnipeg
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
15. Re: Vectorworks power distro symbols
    by Samuel Jones <sjones [at] ucla.edu>
16. Re: Vectorworks power distro symbols
    by "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>

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Date:	Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:21:45 -0400
Subject: Reminiscing (was Re: Crew needed for New York Musical Theatre
	Festival)
From:	"C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
Message-ID: <BF2F3B99.1CC39%brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
In-Reply-To: <259232F1-623A-4AE9-B69F-CEB3A9E9B10B [at] interstellar.com>

On 8/21/05 12:03 PM, "Jerry Durand" <jdurand [at] interstellar.com> wrote:

> I also remember the 8" floppy disks with the 120V AC motor (they
> turned all the time, like a hard disk).  For a comparison, the latest
> hard disks are "the size of a postage stamp", draw a fraction of a
> watt, and hold 4G.

5G.  And it's in my camera right now.

Cris


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Message-ID: <4309D60D.6070701 [at] hillinteractive.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:41:33 -0400
From: Howard Ires <hi [at] hillinteractive.net>
Subject: Re: Top posting (was: RE: Large sigs etc.)
References: <list-24338838 [at] prxy.net> <list-24369542 [at] prxy.net> <list-24370231 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-24370231 [at] prxy.net>

Jerry Durand wrote:
>  I've taken to one question per e-mail/fax, especially
> with certain clients.  

I have been noticing this for years now.  The emails that get acted on 
first require doing one simple thing.  The emails that request 10 things 
often get put aside to do 'later'.  I guess most people like to do the 
easy stuff first.

---------------H


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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Top posting (was: RE: Large sigs etc.)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:50:33 -0400
Message-ID: <021401c5a720$7ae5cdc0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-reply-to: <list-24379257 [at] prxy.net>



> The emails that get 
> acted on 
> first require doing one simple thing.  The emails that 
> request 10 things 
> often get put aside to do 'later'.  I guess most people like 
> to do the 
> easy stuff first.

It's partially that, but it's also a matter of time.  I don't know anyone
(OK, let's say that I don't know many) in this business who's not doing
multiple jobs; if I'm in the middle of trying finish 2 or 3 light plots, I
probably can take time to answer one question, but an email asking for 10
answers will probably be put aside until I have time to deal with it...or
until I entirely forget about it.

=================================
Jeffrey E. Salzberg,
Lighting Designer
http://www.jeffsalzberg.com 

" Jeffrey E. Salzberg's flashy lighting is somewhat distracting, but that's
a relief in this musical."



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Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050822074634.029cefd0 [at] 192.168.0.13>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 07:47:16 -0700
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Reminiscing (was Re: Crew needed for New York Musical
  TheatreFestival)
In-Reply-To: <list-24378100 [at] prxy.net>
References: <259232F1-623A-4AE9-B69F-CEB3A9E9B10B [at] interstellar.com>
 <list-24378100 [at] prxy.net>

At 05:21 AM 8/22/2005, you wrote:
>5G.  And it's in my camera right now.

25% increase while the magazine is getting published.  That's what 
happens when you have to wait for the ink to dry on an article.  :)

-- 
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050822075042.029ced28 [at] 192.168.0.13>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 07:51:24 -0700
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Top posting (was: RE: Large sigs etc.)
In-Reply-To: <list-24379257 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-24338838 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-24369542 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-24370231 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-24379257 [at] prxy.net>

At 06:41 AM 8/22/2005, you wrote:

>I have been noticing this for years now.  The emails that get acted 
>on first require doing one simple thing.  The emails that request 10 
>things often get put aside to do 'later'.  I guess most people like 
>to do the easy stuff first.

Also, if you send ten e-mails, they only read/answer the last one.


-- 
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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Subject: In memory of
Message-ID: <OFDF9FFD55.6716D2F1-ON85257065.005AFA64-85257065.005B613C [at] uncg.edu>
From: Christopher Haas CEHAAS <CEHAAS [at] uncg.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:38:05 -0400

I received news on Thursday that David Schmidt lost his battle with brain 
cancer on Aug 2.  David was a graduate of Northern Kentucky University and 
Southern Illinois University Carbondale.  He taught at Daytona Beach 
Community College, Northwestern State University and Northern Kentucky 
University.  He is survived by his wife Melissa and his 4 1/2 year old 
daughter Caroline.

David was an excellent lighting designer and an even better friend.  He 
will be missed by friends and family.  If any colleagues or friends are 
interested in more information, feel free to contact me off-list.


Chip Haas
Technical Director
Department of Theatre
The University of North Carolina at Greensboro

336-334-3891

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Message-ID: <20050822213403.70976.qmail [at] web52211.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:34:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Phil Blackwood <pfblackwood [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Gondola of Love
In-Reply-To: <list-24376592 [at] prxy.net>

I'm looking for a source for an amusement park gondola
(tunnel of love)in an early 1900's style for an
upcoming University of Arizona production. It needs to
seat 4 across and will be mounted on a wagon and
rolled all over the stage. We're in Tucson and I'm new
here so I don't know any local resources. I'm trying
to save the shop the trouble of building something.
Any ideas or sources are welcome on or off list.
Thanks in advance

Phil Blackwood
Technical Director
University of Arizona
School of Theater Arts
(520)621-1104

__________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:58:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Gondola of Love
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF2FC2CB.68F1%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24385963 [at] prxy.net>

Hmmmm Might I guess... "side show" ?

Find some old car bench seats and mount them on a dolly platform.


On 8/22/05 5:34 PM, "Phil Blackwood" <pfblackwood [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> I'm looking for a source for an amusement park gondola
> (tunnel of love)in an early 1900's style for an
> upcoming University of Arizona production. It needs to
> seat 4 across and will be mounted on a wagon and
> rolled all over the stage. We're in Tucson and I'm new
> here so I don't know any local resources. I'm trying
> to save the shop the trouble of building something.
> Any ideas or sources are welcome on or off list.
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Phil Blackwood
> Technical Director
> University of Arizona
> School of Theater Arts
> (520)621-1104
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



------------------------------

From: "Jon Lagerquist" <jon [at] lagerquist.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:46:16 -0700
Subject: Re: Grid System (On behalf of Bill Sapsis) Part Two
Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com
Message-ID: <4309F348.18736.193ADFAE [at] localhost>
In-reply-to: <list-24322451 [at] prxy.net>

The device you are thinking of is a Dual-Lock, also by Simmons 
(Southco). See

http://www.southco.com/product/class.aspx?cid=7425

> Actually, if I'm not mistaken (it happens), Rotolocks are a variation of 
> casket locks.  The generic casket lock uses a cam to snug and secure the two 
> halves together, while the Simmons Rotolock uses a hook and is a stronger 
> connection.

> > Rotolocks are the Simmons fastener often called a casket lock. The 
> > device used to connect pipe is a Rotalock (note the "A").


Jon Lagerquist


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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:57:44 -0400
From: "Josh Ratty" <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
Subject: RE: An incident in Winnipeg
In-reply-to: <list-24342258 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <009201c5a76c$e93442b0$0201000a [at] Rattys>

I haven't seen any replies on list yet about this. Has anyone heard
anything? I didn't know anyone there or anything but I'm interested for
other reasons. 

Josh Ratty


Hi folks.  I heard about an incident that happened in Winnipeg on the
Mama
Mia tour and am trying to confirm the details.  A google search has
produced
nothing from the news sources.  I'm not looking for info for commercial
reasons, I do not do the expert witness thing, but I may know the person
involved.  Any info would be appreciated.

Bill S.









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Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.2.20050822162237.0209c990 [at] mail.earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:24:02 -0700
From: Jennie and Jerry Gorrell <theatresafe [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: from the ap -- concert incident

Associated Press
Aug. 22, 2005 08:30 AM

BOSTON - A woman was hospitalized with broken bones after she climbed 
onto the rafters of Fenway Park during Sunday night's Rolling Stones 
concert and fell 35 to 40 feet.

The 20-year-old woman broke both her ankles and a wrist and was in 
stable condition at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, according 
to police. Hospital spokeswoman Cindy Whitcome said no further 
information on her condition was being released. Her name was not made public.

Firefighters were sent to help her down but they arrived too late, 
fire Lt. David Pfeil said. advertisement

  A witness described seeing the woman climbing into the rafters 
above the ballpark's right field grandstand.

"I don't know how she got up there," Sean Mahoney said, "but I kept 
yelling for her (to), 'Go back. Go back."

Other witnesses said she was in the rafters for some time before she fell.

"She sat for at least three songs, just dangling there," said Jaime 
Whitney. "She was hanging onto the rafters, sitting on a beam. She 
just fell backwards."

Sunday's show was the first on the Stones' new North American tour.

Jerry Gorrell





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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:52:34 -0400
Subject: Vectorworks power distro symbols
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BF2FDD82.6904%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>

Hey folks,

I'm putting together a power distro drawing for a union arena to install.

It has multiple flavors of cable L620, 100 amp 2p&G, Multi, etc...

I went ahead and made symbols for various lengths of various flavors of
cable. But now of course I have to make it "fit" to curves and corners and
the symbols won't do.

Does anyone have any ideas? I like having the static cable lengths on the
symbol but I want it to be reactive like when I'm drawing a wall or a
polygon. 

Any Production Elec's out there that have done this?

To make matters worse this is for a fright-attraction in an arena and the
walls are MAZES. Ideally cable follows the top of walls to get to exit signs
and SFX etc...

It's mostly a guideline so shops can bid. The Union crew is pretty much
gonna just do what they do with some direction from me and my staff. :)

-H

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:44:12 -0400
Subject: Re: from the ap -- concert incident
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BF2FE99C.1DEC%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24387449 [at] prxy.net>

Ah, the good old days. A little rock n roll, a few chemicals and almost
anything is possible.
Of course, all us old pharts are now saying things like

"Did I do stuff like that?  I musta been crazy!"
                -Or-
"Nah, I never did that kinda stuff."  (yeah, right)

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561 mobile






On 8/22/05 7:24 PM, "Jennie and Jerry Gorrell" <theatresafe [at] earthlink.net>
wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Associated Press
> Aug. 22, 2005 08:30 AM
> 
> BOSTON - A woman was hospitalized with broken bones after she climbed
> onto the rafters of Fenway Park during Sunday night's Rolling Stones
> concert and fell 35 to 40 feet.
> 
<<SNIP>>
> 
> Sunday's show was the first on the Stones' new North American tour.
> 
> Jerry Gorrell
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:48:33 -0400
Subject: Re: An incident in Winnipeg
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BF2FEAA1.1DEF%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24387143 [at] prxy.net>

Information is still very sketchy.  I don't feel comfortable relaying what
I've heard so far as it's all 3rd party stuff.

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561 mobile



On 8/22/05 6:57 PM, "Josh Ratty" <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> I haven't seen any replies on list yet about this. Has anyone heard
> anything? I didn't know anyone there or anything but I'm interested for
> other reasons. 
> 
> Josh Ratty
> 
> 
> Hi folks.  I heard about an incident that happened in Winnipeg on the
> Mama
> Mia tour and am trying to confirm the details.  A google search has
> produced
> nothing from the news sources.  I'm not looking for info for commercial
> reasons, I do not do the expert witness thing, but I may know the person
> involved.  Any info would be appreciated.
> 
> Bill S.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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In-Reply-To: <list-24387710 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-24387710 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <3fa236f3a89e08b27e15c341bb6cc200 [at] ucla.edu>
From: Samuel Jones <sjones [at] ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: Vectorworks power distro symbols
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:20:27 -0700

Herrick,

Are your cable runs anything more than polylines?  you could create 
classes to represent the different kinds of cable.  The length of the 
polylines of each class could be culled and put in a worksheet.  The 
polylines of different classes could be put in class colors if you 
need.  If you need to add a record that holds a lot of different info, 
scripts could be written to assign the record and/or fill in values in 
the record.  Since you probably need this in a hurry, polylines and 
classes is probably the way to go, but I would need to know more about 
what you want to end up with.  Let me know more particulars on or off 
list as you might think is appropriate to anybody else caring.

Sam

Samuel L. Jones
Developer of AutoPlotVW and AutoPlot Tools for SpotLight
sjones [at] arts.ucla.edu
(310) 207-0392 (home)
(310) 825-5823 (office)
(310) 993-4172 (cell)

=============================================================

On Aug 22, 2005, at 4:52 PM, Herrick Goldman wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I'm putting together a power distro drawing for a union arena to 
> install.
>
> It has multiple flavors of cable L620, 100 amp 2p&G, Multi, etc...
>
> I went ahead and made symbols for various lengths of various flavors of
> cable. But now of course I have to make it "fit" to curves and corners 
> and
> the symbols won't do.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas? I like having the static cable lengths on 
> the
> symbol but I want it to be reactive like when I'm drawing a wall or a
> polygon.
>
> Any Production Elec's out there that have done this?
>
> To make matters worse this is for a fright-attraction in an arena and 
> the
> walls are MAZES. Ideally cable follows the top of walls to get to exit 
> signs
> and SFX etc...
>
> It's mostly a guideline so shops can bid. The Union crew is pretty much
> gonna just do what they do with some direction from me and my staff. :)
>
> -H
>
> -- 
> Herrick Goldman
> Lighting Designer, NYC
> www.HGLightingDesign.com
> 917-797-3624
> "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness 
> and in
> light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS
>
>
>


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Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV13E3BE86CC903E7A9B502FBDA90 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
References: <list-24387710 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Vectorworks power distro symbols
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:40:07 -0700

Herrick, you got me on that as I am a PC guy and VC doesn't work well with a 
PC still clunky. But cable routing is the only time I ever draw a scale 
drawing and by pencil, just got my bum burned to many times with cad on 
cable lengths, and don't ask why cause could never figure it out why "it 
worked on the screen". These days I just give them a hang sheet for 
everything, no plot, as the hang sheet has everything they need to know 
except the cable lengths The lengths are my scribble paper if I rented the 
show.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Herrick Goldman" <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Subject: Vectorworks power distro symbols

>
> Hey folks,
>
> I'm putting together a power distro drawing for a union arena to install.
>
> It has multiple flavors of cable L620, 100 amp 2p&G, Multi, etc...
>
> I went ahead and made symbols for various lengths of various flavors of
> cable. But now of course I have to make it "fit" to curves and corners and
> the symbols won't do.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas? I like having the static cable lengths on the
> symbol but I want it to be reactive like when I'm drawing a wall or a
> polygon.
>
> Any Production Elec's out there that have done this?
>
> To make matters worse this is for a fright-attraction in an arena and the
> walls are MAZES. Ideally cable follows the top of walls to get to exit 
> signs
> and SFX etc...
>
> It's mostly a guideline so shops can bid. The Union crew is pretty much
> gonna just do what they do with some direction from me and my staff. :)
>
> -H
>
> -- 
> Herrick Goldman
> Lighting Designer, NYC
> www.HGLightingDesign.com
> 917-797-3624
> "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
> light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS
>
>
> 

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