Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 24530374; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 03:01:29 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #506 Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 03:00:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AS_SEEN_ON,AWL, BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #506 1. Re: OSHA lifting limitations by "Chris Warner" 2. Re: plaigerism and thanks Herrick by "Secore, Scott" 3. Re: Collage Fair NYC-Sept. 24th by Herrick Goldman 4. Re: OSHA lifting limitations by "Stephen E. Rees" 5. Re: Wireless AV gear question... by "Steve Jones" 6. Re: Halloween ? by "Abby Downing" 7. Re: on a serious note by Dale Farmer 8. Re: on a serious note by Steve Larson 9. Re: Wireless AV gear question... by "Ash Munro" 10. Re: Wireless AV gear question... by Greg Bierly 11. Re: Wireless AV gear question... by "Steve Jones" 12. Re: OSHA lifting limitations by doran [at] bard.edu 13. Ghost light by b Ricie 14. Re: plagiarism by Stan Pressner 15. Re: plaigerism and thanks Herrick by "Jon Ares" 16. Re: plaigerism and thanks Herrick by "Jon Ares" 17. Re: plagiarism by "Simon Shuker" 18. Re: plagiarism and thanks Herrick by "Paul Schreiner" 19. Re: on a serious note by Andrew Vance 20. Re: Ghost light by Mat Goebel 21. Re: on a serious note by Greg Bierly 22. Re: Ghost light by Greg Bierly 23. Re: Ghost Light standards by "RD" 24. Re: OSHA lifting limitations by MissWisc [at] aol.com 25. Re: Plagiarism / Ignoring Rights by "Haagen Trey P Civ 34 TRW/SDAT" 26. Re: Halloween ? by IAEG [at] aol.com 27. Re: Plagiarism / Ignoring Rights by IAEG [at] aol.com 28. Re: Plagairiam/ Ignoring Rights by MissWisc [at] aol.com 29. Re: Plagairiam/ Ignoring Rights by IAEG [at] aol.com 30. Re: Plagairiam/ Ignoring Rights by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 31. Re: on a serious note by "Frank E. Merrill" 32. Re: Ghost light by MissWisc [at] aol.com 33. Re: on a serious note by MissWisc [at] aol.com 34. Re: on a serious note by "C. Dopher" 35. Re: Ghost light by "Paul Schreiner" 36. Re: on a serious note by Steve Larson 37. Re: Plagairiam/ Ignoring Rights by Mike Brubaker 38. Re: on a serious note by "Simon Shuker" 39. Re: Ghost light by "Paul Schreiner" 40. Re: on a serious note by "Paul Schreiner" 41. Re: on a serious note by IAEG [at] aol.com 42. Re: on a serious note by "Simon Shuker" 43. Re: on a serious note by Greg Bierly 44. Re: on a serious note by Mike Brubaker 45. Re: Collage Fair NYC-Sept. 24th by Scott Parker 46. Re: Ghost light + ready made by "Jeffrey Kanyuck" 47. Re: Ghost light + ready made by Bruce Purdy 48. Re: Ghost light + ready made by "Jeffrey Kanyuck" 49. Re: Ghost light + ready made by Bruce Purdy 50. Re: Ghost light + ready made by Dale Farmer 51. Re: OSHA lifting limitations by "Chris Warner" 52. Re: Ghost light + ready made by "Jon Lagerquist" 53. Re: Inexpensive Flooring Systems? by Arthur Williams 54. Re: on a serious note by Stuart Wheaton 55. Re: OT: Removing stuck drain cap. by Stuart Wheaton 56. Re: on a serious note by Bruce Purdy 57. Re: Inexpensive Flooring Systems? by Bruce Purdy 58. Re: on a serious note by Dale Farmer 59. Re: on a serious note by "Jon Ares" 60. Backup power by Mark O'Brien 61. Re: on a serious note by megironda [at] att.net (Gerry G.) 62. Re: Backup power by Charlie Richmond 63. Re: on a serious note by Charlie Richmond 64. Re: Ghost light + ready made by "Bill Nelson" 65. Re: on a serious note by "Bill Nelson" 66. Re: Ghost light + ready made by Dale Farmer 67. Re: on a serious note by Charlie Richmond *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Warner" Subject: RE: OSHA lifting limitations Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 03:09:51 -0700 Message-ID: <001001c5ae14$20ab8de0$6401a8c0 [at] chris> In-Reply-To: I rechecked the weight, the weight on the package was given in Kilograms. I remembered 75Kilograms, it was actually 35 Kilograms, which is 78 lbs. It still is a pain in the back. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Nelson Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:20 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: OSHA lifting limitations For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > I had been asked to lift a load of > 165lbs 20ft, using 1/2" rope and a block with a single pulley. The rope > and the pulley were rated at 400lbs working weight, and did not have a > label restricting overhead use. My question is under OSHA requirements, > what is the proper equipment been to do this job, and what is the > maximum weight a single person can lift without help? I don't know about OSHA rules, but I feel that that is too much weight for one person to safely lift using single purchase tackle. When you figure in friction losses, you are probably looking at close to 200 pounds of pull needed to lift that weight. While I can "sweat up" that much (and more) if I have a good pinrail available, I would not be able to budge it otherwise. I only weigh about 150 pounds. I don't like any load that I cannot lift by pulling with one arm, even if there is someone tailing the rope. Bill -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/85 - Release Date: 8/30/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/85 - Release Date: 8/30/2005 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: plaigerism and thanks Herrick Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:32:25 -0400 Message-ID: <346414591B50EE4299DB6686321B8CC701D2931C [at] FACSTAFF.facultystaff.eku.edu> From: "Secore, Scott" Dick A wrote:>>>>> I've heard (or maybe worked there but I couldn't really say) of various theatres with equity members where the management got and sometimes did not get permission to tape.<<<< I have never been in a situation where videotaping prior to an opening was an issue. Photography, on the otherhand, was/is always an issue. Recalling back to my time in Company Mgmt., Equity requires notice of at least 24 hours for any type of photography/filming. Be it for publicity, archival, or what have you.=20 No 24 hr. notice, no clicking/rolling. Although we never came across anyone who actually cared, or ever reported us. Actors love all the attention they can get :)- -Scott TTS EKU ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:36:28 -0400 Subject: Re: Collage Fair NYC-Sept. 24th From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Ahem, um Scott....Buddy... Why would I want to learn Collage at a fair? How do you know my Meet will be great? You may want to talk to CB about some spellcheck. On 8/31/05 5:45 AM, "Scott Parker" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > USITT NY Section is sponsering an undergraduate and graduate theatre > college fair! > > Sept. 24th 2005 from 2-5pm. > > All students are invited to meet and great. Portfolio review > appointments may be available; space is limited. > > To RSVP or obtain additional information, please contact > RSVP [at] USITTNY.org. Feel free to pass this along. > > For more information and directions to Pace, go to www.usittny.org. > > Schools wishing to participate in the school fair should be USITT NY > chapter members or pay a small fee. Contact rsvp [at] usittny.org -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4315A704.4040507 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:48:04 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: OSHA lifting limitations References: I think I would seek out a block and fall arrangement that would provide a mechanical advantage of at least 3:1 or possibly 4:1, all components providing a minimum of 5:1 design factor. Rope type is crucial here - diameter vs. WLL. Seems like overkill but better than dropping the load or staining body parts. Is there a means of tying off the load once it is aloft? HTH< Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Chris Warner wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hey guys, not necessarily theatre related but with most of us schlepping > and moving lighting fixtures and other items I figured it would be a > good place to ask the question. My current day job (working to put > myself and my wife through college), I had been asked to lift a load of > 165lbs 20ft, using 1/2" rope and a block with a single pulley. The rope > and the pulley were rated at 400lbs working weight, and did not have a > label restricting overhead use. My question is under OSHA requirements, > what is the proper equipment been to do this job, and what is the > maximum weight a single person can lift without help? > > Thanks for the info. > > > ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: RE: Wireless AV gear question... Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:55:22 -0500 Organization: Plaza Theatre In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This item doesn't have the range I need. It only supports the Mac OS if you buy a $30 shareware program for each laptop you will be controlling and install it on each. I am looking to send the audio and video to the projector. If I can do that, I don't need a gadget to control the PowerPoint. Plus I can do everything the computer can do - not just Powerpoint. Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf > Of C. Dopher > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:51 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Wireless AV gear question... > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > On 8/29/05 3:53 PM, "Steve Jones" > > wrote: > > > Greetings all! > > > > I am looking for feedback on equipment that will allow a laptop to > > send audio and video output to a Sanyo digital projector > that is 150 > > feet away wirelessly. Something like the Avocent LongView Wireless > > Extender. Anyone have anything they recommend or have > experience with? > > Well, equipment to wirelessly control a powerpoint > presentation is old hat. > They even have it skinnied down to a USB dongle and a pocket > widget now: > > http://www.zyonshop.com/product/beamplus.htm > > I'm sure with some hunting and pecking you can find a similar > product that will work over 150 feet. > > Cris Dopher > > > ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Halloween ? Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:01:43 -0400 Message-ID: <7AE59BA9B8D15D4787EB1C7A2DB6DFBA2FFFE5 [at] jekyll-sbs.ollsi.local> From: "Abby Downing" Re Halloween shows: My company lights a nearby Zoo for Halloween. Star strobes, ropelight, blacklight, crushed dichroic color washes, and LOTS of gobos- especially of the corporate sponsors for the event. Pretty cool gig actually...but lots of work. Convincing the free-roaming peacocks to stay out of our way is another matter entirely... Abby ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4315AED9.EAF50161 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:21:29 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: on a serious note References:

gregg hillmar wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Yeah, I was thinking about Steve Schepker and some of our other list > members who are in that area, hoping they were all right, but as they > have no power- (in places they are saying months (yes!) before power > can be restored), I didn't post yet as they can't answer. > > My thoughts and prayers are with them all. It is a catastrophe of > epic proportions. > > Having survived through Isabel and Gaston up here in the mid-east > coast- both are small in comparison. We suffered through two weeks of > no power- that's nothing compared to what these people will endure. > > At least in our neighborhood, humanity was the keyword, unlike some > of the lawlessness we've seen on TV. OF course we shouldn't talk to > much, with the Henrico county ibook riots in our backyard... > > Still, I wish all down that way the best. This is a huge blow to new orleans. It may be that it will never really recover from it. The city will take months to pump all the water again. They gotta fix the breaks in the levee system, then they gotta build new pump stations, then they can start pumping the city out. I figure every building in the flooded sections will be a total loss. The thing I haven't heard about is about old river flood control structure #1 up the river a bit. That's the one that some models predicted would fail under this scenario. If it broke, the river's main channel moves away from the city. That would mean the old river channel would silt up fast, and the ships wouldn't be able to get there any more. I hope that all my friends from the area survived and didn't lose too much. --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:16:43 -0400 Subject: Re: on a serious note From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Anyone in touch with any of the Tulane or UNO folks from NO. Haven't heard from them yet. Lived in NO for eight years. Glad I moved. Sounds like Mardi Gras needs a theme like Atlantis. Steve > From: gregg hillmar ------------------------------ From: "Ash Munro" Subject: RE: Wireless AV gear question... Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:22:38 -0400 Message-ID: <005501c5ae2f$11fe6db0$6701a8c0 [at] charlottedt> In-Reply-To: Steve wrote: >>I am looking for feedback on equipment that will allow a laptop to = send audio and video output to a Sanyo digital projector that is 150 feet = away wirelessly.<< =20 How about this device:=20 http://tinyurl.com/e2g7j OR http://catalogs.infocommiq.com/AVCAT/CTL1429/index.cfm?mlc_id=3D744&SID=3D= 142876 10&pin_id=3D1429&ProdID=3D323417&T3=3D394 "The WPP simply plugs in to the projector's VGA port. It's easy to = present using the WPP with any WiFiR-enabled computer. The WPP uses the = computer's existing wireless connection and the easy to use Presentation Portal Software Utility" You are still left with getting audio into the PA, but that can be = treated like any other audio signal, either through a DI to a wired mic jack on stage or through a wireless Beltpack with an adapter. I'd forget about routing it through the PJ, just one more link to fail. If this doesn't work, the website is about the most complete listing of = AV gear I've ever seen, so another solution might be on there. Ash Munro Charlotte Division Manager A&V Company =20 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Wireless AV gear question... Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:32:28 -0400 > I am looking to send the audio and video to the projector. Wireless video of any quality is still spotty but getting better all the time. Getting reliable, high quality wireless video is still very expensive. Beaming NTSC quality between two FIXED stations is probably feasible at a reasonable cost. Increasing that to VGA or higher or not having a fixed transmission antenna you are probably getting into what it would cost for a professionally installed hard wired 150' vga cable with amplification and custom connection plates. Add a couple of wireless mics to the RF environment and give me the hardwired reliability any day. Good luck in your hunt. Wireless audio shouldn't be a problem but I don't think you will find a cost effective, wireless video solution. Let us know if you find anything. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: RE: Wireless AV gear question... Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:40:10 -0500 Organization: Plaza Theatre In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Looks good. But only runs on Windows. No Mac software. Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf > Of Ash Munro > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:23 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Wireless AV gear question... > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Steve wrote: > >>I am looking for feedback on equipment that will allow a laptop to > >>send > audio and video output to a Sanyo digital projector that is > 150 feet away wirelessly.<< > > How about this device: > http://tinyurl.com/e2g7j > OR > http://catalogs.infocommiq.com/AVCAT/CTL1429/index.cfm?mlc_id= > 744&SID=142876 > 10&pin_id=1429&ProdID=323417&T3=394 > > "The WPP simply plugs in to the projector's VGA port. It's > easy to present using the WPP with any WiFiR-enabled > computer. The WPP uses the computer's existing wireless > connection and the easy to use Presentation Portal Software Utility" > > You are still left with getting audio into the PA, but that > can be treated like any other audio signal, either through a > DI to a wired mic jack on stage or through a wireless > Beltpack with an adapter. I'd forget about routing it through > the PJ, just one more link to fail. > > If this doesn't work, the website is about the most complete > listing of AV gear I've ever seen, so another solution might > be on there. > > Ash Munro > Charlotte Division Manager > A&V Company > > > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1125496461.4315b68d178a4 [at] webmail.bard.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:54:21 -0400 From: doran [at] bard.edu Subject: Re: OSHA lifting limitations References: In-Reply-To: Quoting Chris Warner : I had been asked to lift a load of > 165lbs 20ft, using 1/2" rope and a block with a single pulley. The rope > and the pulley were rated at 400lbs working weight, and did not have a > label restricting overhead use. My question is under OSHA requirements, > what is the proper equipment to do this job, and what is the > maximum weight a single person can lift without help? Chris, Does this involve a barrell of bricks and an insurance claim explaination? Andy C-D ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050831135729.80996.qmail [at] web50608.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:57:29 -0700 (PDT) From: b Ricie Subject: Ghost light In-Reply-To: Explain to security that it is also a matter of safety. Explain to them that the the space is ever changing with new configurations for every show. Explain that the stage has a 3 foot drop at the edge. Then, explain to them that if some one trips or falls in the dark room(weather they are supposed to be in there or not) that the theatre is liable for any injuries, and as the person that turned off the ghost light liability might fall to them. If that does not convince them, then it is time to put your concerns down on paper and send them to the security supervisor. Try to go it the nice way, Security can be a terrific friend, try to keep is so. Brian Rice 508-685-0716 b_ricie [at] yahoo.com "Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the light." ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:08:32 -0400 From: Stan Pressner Subject: Re: plagiarism In-reply-to: Message-id: <405074A7-EDAA-4648-908D-4C54D898A6D2 [at] verizon.net> References: Am I the only one made crazy by the mispelling in the subject line? Best, Stan Pressner On Aug 31, 2005, at 6:01 AM, Stagecraft wrote: > Re: plaigerism and thanks Herrick > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000901c5ae35$86da99a0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: plaigerism and thanks Herrick Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:08:56 -0700 >>> Sam French and Jim Casey (author of "Grease") sent a Lincoln towncar >>> full of >>> attorneys to lil' ol' Wilsonville, Oregon, USA, to the local high school >>> for >>> 'changing' the show. Don't think it couldn't happen to you. > > Hm. I couldn't find anything through a Google search. Can you provide a > cite? > It wasn't in the press, as far as I know. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002f01c5ae36$77a360b0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: plaigerism and thanks Herrick Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:15:40 -0700 > Speaking of "Changing" Grease, it seems productions I've seen lately > include music from the movie instead of some of the original stage > version > songs. Have the rights holders changed the version that they licence, or > do > they offer a choice? Uhh... no. Those would be "Director's Choices." I see it all the time, as well. Drives me crazy. Sorry, but "You're the One That I Love" just is NOT a Musical Theatre song - doesn't work on so many levels. Sam French does have a "Grease - School Version" now, but I suspect it addresses the smoking and drinking at Frenchy's sleepover (and some of the language). - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ From: "Simon Shuker" Subject: RE: plagiarism Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:42:56 +0400 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050831144306.BB5F857CD [at] mail05.powweb.com> yes -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Stan Pressner Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:09 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: plagiarism For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Am I the only one made crazy by the mispelling in the subject line? Best, Stan Pressner On Aug 31, 2005, at 6:01 AM, Stagecraft wrote: > Re: plaigerism and thanks Herrick > ------------------------------ Subject: RE: plagiarism and thanks Herrick Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:43:33 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C8DF [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Uhh... no. Those would be "Director's Choices." I see it=20 > all the time, as=20 > well. Drives me crazy. Sorry, but "You're the One That I=20 > Love" just is NOT=20 > a Musical Theatre song - doesn't work on so many levels. Agreed. Same with "You're The One That I Want", which is IIRC the actual title...not to pick nits, of course, but you know... FWIW, I was involved with a production of Grease a number of years ago at a summer theatre whose name shall be withheld for various reasons, where the producer was adamant about including the song as the finale on the rationale that the audiences we catered to "would expect that song in the show" and would "be livid if we didn't perform it" even though it's not in the script. I know for a fact that he never bothered to ask about a waiver from the rights holders for the change, nor were we contacted by anyone who might have had a beef with it. Truth be told, in certain realms in this business there's waaaay too much of "it's okay if we don't get caught" going on. Same producer hired an old schoolmate of mine to sing Judas because, quite frankly, he was born to play the role and absolutely no one at any of the combine auditions was even close to having the requisite talent. Only stumbling block was the fact that he had recently earned his Equity card...but a quick negotiated change of his name as it appeared in our billing (initials instead of his full first name) and voila! everything was *ahem* kosher. So much of what does go on below the waterline as far as script deviations and working around contracts goes to the whole economic scenario either experienced or perceived by a substantial population of the theatre-producing public in this country, and it's MHO that it's going to take a lot of pressure from rights holders and unions on these companies to really make a lasting change to the culture. Problem is, then the rights holders and unions either (a) drive a lot of companies out of business--and not just with financial penalties, but with the trickle-down effect on audiences--or (b) come off looking like big bad guys picking on the little theatre companies that struggle to get by on a year-to-year or show-to-show basis. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <96511AE5-BE23-4DEA-AAAC-E57C9DF5CAC1 [at] gmail.com> From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: on a serious note Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:46:00 -0500 On 31 Aug, 2005, at 08:16, Steve Larson wrote: > Anyone in touch with any of the Tulane or UNO > folks from NO. I heard from some of my friends yesterday. They live in Slidell and hadn't made it back to their house yet, but they said its like hell down there. I don't think their area is nearly as bad as New Orleans, but we have many friends in the areas more affected. I'm going to call them tonight and see what they know about all our friends who lived in the city itself. New Orleans is like a second home to me, and it tears my heart apart to see it so devastated. Every time I watch the TV news I see buildings, streets, and neighborhoods that have become all to familiar with me over the last five years. I, too, fear that the city will take months or years to fully recover, if it does. My heart goes out to everyone there, and all along the Gulf Coast. -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance atvanceld [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:00:50 -0700 From: Mat Goebel Subject: Re: Ghost light In-Reply-To: References:

Does anyone make 'ready out of the box' ghostlights? I've only ever seen DIY ones... --=20 Mat Goebel www.matgoebel.com Mobile: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <8a5371c647475250444063b4a6147bd1 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: on a serious note Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:14:09 -0400 >> Anyone in touch with any of the Tulane or UNO >> folks from NO. Google search for New Orleans flooding brings up some really prophetic sites. Never visiting I really wanted to know the topography they have been talking about on the news. I found this link http://www.hurricane.lsu.edu/_in_the_news/april30_ny_times.htm with a very helpful multimedia link showing how flooding COULD affect the area. It really helped me visualize the severity of the situation. My heart too goes out to not just those in the area but with those of you on the list with friends and family in the area. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Ghost light Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:17:41 -0400 > Does anyone make 'ready out of the box' ghostlights? Wobble Light is the closest thing I have found (a little on the expensive side but looks sturdy) wobblelight.com Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: Ghost Light standards Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:31:24 -0600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Our firm always recommends in all of our risk assessment reports that a ghost light be part and parcel of any system and used all of the time, and monitored so that it is indeed operational at all times. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Steve B. Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:00 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Ghost Light standards For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Kanyuck" > Hey All, > Hope everyone is doing well. > I'm looking for information on any standard requirements for Ghost > Lights. > I've got a great one but, our security department keeps turning it > off saying it's a fire hazard and I have to SHOW THEM IN WRITING any > kind of proof otherwise. > I've looked in OSHA and ANSI, but, I'm not seeing anything on it. > I'm sure I'm looking in the wrong place. > Any help would be appreciated. Have you asked them for documentation that explains how it's a fire hazard ?. Seriously though, maybe a conversation with a senior member of the department explaining how it's an enclosed fixture, away from any flammable materials, with a load that's well under the rating of socket and wiring and SERVES A PURPOSE !, kind of like a street lamp. We had issues for a while with our security department, with random members who would come in to the theater in the early AM, turn off the ghost light (they had no issues with it), and turn on all the house lights, for the remainder of the day, until a stage staff member came in, to turn them off. Really annoying as no note could stop them and I could not figure out who.... An ETC Unison LCD panel with code access only solved the problem. The ghost light is now a pair of 500w floods in the apron ceiling, also on the automated Unison system. Security can't touch it. Steve Bailey Brooklyn College ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <202.904b44d.30472dd2 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:59:14 EDT Subject: Re: OSHA lifting limitations The most you should lift is the amount YOU feel comfortable controlling, regardless of what OSHA or anyone else might say. If it's more than that, get help. Never lift what you can roll. Use your knees not your back. I believe OSHA has said any lifting of more than 50 lbs is considered "heavy" (e.g. the weight limit on suitcases, need for stickers on larger packages when they are transported, etc.) and you should have help moving those objects. On the other hand, I can "manage" far more than that on a PROPERLY weighted lineset because it's designed so that I'm controlling the load rather than lifting it all myself. HTH Kristi ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Plagiarism / Ignoring Rights Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:08:31 -0600 Message-ID: <67CADCB91D266042A8DAB3B981DCFD14FD4BD9 [at] AFAMAIL2.USAFA.afspc.ds.af.mil> From: "Haagen Trey P Civ 34 TRW/SDAT" In Colorado Springs, I recently paid and attended a performance of "Cats on Ice" =20 Actually, a very worthy effort considering the age and abilities of the performers/skaters. It appeared that they used selected tracks off of the CD. (most of it). No acknowledgement of The Really Useful Group. I don't think that they have had a general release of the rights. And I understand that the producing company is performing an encore In an actual theatre. I also see some High schools, (my wife teaches at one) that do the same thing. They just copy A script, hand it out and hope holding companies don't have a "secret shopper" out there. My guess is that they don't even think about it more than a nanosecond. Trey Haagen ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1ef.432a6a6f.30472ff2 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:08:18 EDT Subject: Re: Halloween ? In a message dated 8/31/05 8:57:51 AM, aldowning [at] onlocationls.com writes: << ropelight, >> did a haunted trail through the woods last year, , put red rope light on the ground with landscape staples, all along one side of the path. Inserted a few small "home" dimmers into weather proof utility boxes and dimmed the rope light down to where it was just visible to show the route of the pathway. very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <6a.5cad197f.30473173 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:14:43 EDT Subject: Re: Plagiarism / Ignoring Rights In a message dated 8/31/05 12:09:08 PM, Trey.Haagen [at] usafa.af.mil writes: << In Colorado Springs, I recently paid and attended a performance of "Cats on Ice" Actually, a very worthy effort considering the age and abilities of the performers/skaters. It appeared that they used selected tracks off of the CD. (most of it). No acknowledgement of The Really Useful Group. I don't think that they have had a general release of the rights. And I understand that the producing company is performing an encore In an actual theatre. I also see some High schools, (my wife teaches at one) that do the same thing. They just copy A script, hand it out and hope holding companies don't have a "secret shopper" out there. My guess is that they don't even think about it more than a nanosecond. Trey Haagen >> Really Useful Company doesn't know about ? my guess is that they will now ! very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <79.4cafb141.30473ae2 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:54:58 EDT Subject: re: Plagairiam/ Ignoring Rights OK... hypothetically... let's say I'm working a show where I'm pretty confident that copyright is being violated. Whom do I call? FBI? (Copyright is federal law.) Publisher? Folks who handle the performing rights (Tams Witmark, MTI, etc.)? And what do I tell them when I do call? What if it is a review with some Broadway things (copied from the vocal scores at the library!) and some choral scores from Hal Leonard? Richard from this list helped me with the "parents who want to tape" and "principals who don't know any better" problem by suggesting I place signs reminding concert goers of federal copyright law at each entrance. It brought a lot of flack, but I slept better at night. Kristi ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:01:19 EDT Subject: Re: Plagairiam/ Ignoring Rights In a message dated 8/31/05 12:55:52 PM, MissWisc [at] aol.com writes: << What if it is a review with some Broadway things (copied from the vocal scores at the library!) and some choral scores from Hal Leonard? >> that might not be a violation in and of itself ( the copying not withstanding ) all depends, , on a lot of issues, that Richard is probably more qualified to speak to best Keith Arsenault ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Plagairiam/ Ignoring Rights Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:05:36 -0400 Message-ID: <000301c5ae4e$38f9e330$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > I'm pretty > confident that copyright is being violated. Whom do I call? > FBI? (Copyright is > federal law.) ...But it's civil law, not criminal law. > Publisher? Folks who handle the performing > rights (Tams Witmark, > MTI, etc.)? Yup. > And what do I tell them when I do call? " is violating your copyright by producing in ." By the way, I found out (the hard way, alas) who investigates identity theft. It's not your local police department (they'll just take a report). It's not the FBI. It's the United States Secret Service. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:14:52 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1918933242.20050831121452 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Re: on a serious note In-Reply-To: References: Howdy ! Tuesday, August 30, 2005, Kieth Arsenault wrote about the devastation in Dixie, and my heart and a meager quantity of dollars goes out to all affected. I can't help but wonder, however, how soon this storm and devastation will be blamed on President Bush. Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1fe.906af95.3047413a [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:22:02 EDT Subject: Re: Ghost light _mgoebel [at] gmail.com_ (mailto:mgoebel [at] gmail.com) writes: <> What about a standing household fixture without the shade? The important things are that the edge of the stage/other tripping hazards are clearly illuminated and that there's enough light to get to an exit. Kristi ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <142.4c2adbff.3047432d [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:30:21 EDT Subject: Re: on a serious note _Lamplighter [at] tcon.net_ (mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net) writes: <> Our US President is powerful, but he's not God. This is certainly in the "Act of God" (Allah, Jehova, G-d, Goddess, etc. please use the term you prefer.) category. Blame does nothing to solve the situation. Gonna take lots of engineers, healthworkers, counselors and the like backed with lots of time and money. Also gonna take us in the entertainment industry to give people a few hours of time where they can laugh and get away from that stress. Kristi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:32:46 -0400 Subject: Re: on a serious note From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <14.4c57a662.304612d7 [at] aol.com> On 8/30/05 3:51 PM, "IAEG [at] aol.com" wrote: > This is a human tragedy of proportions I don't think we have seen in our life > time and it's effects on the entire country in terms of the economy will be > felt for quite some time. "In our lifetime" may be a little extreme... "this year" seems more apt. Let's not forget 9-11, the tsunami in India, and the regular massive third-world country mudslides that wipe out tens of thousands... All have higher loss of life. Heck, today's bridge incident in Tahrain (?) may equal the loss of life and that happened in a matter of minutes... Cris Dopher ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Ghost light Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:35:08 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C8E3 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > What about a standing household fixture without the shade?=20 > The important=20 > things are that the edge of the stage/other tripping hazards=20 > are clearly=20 > illuminated and that there's enough light to get to an exit. That's two of the important things...the third is that the lamp should be somehow enclosed so that fabrics and skin don't make contact with the hot envelope, and that (in the event of a fall) the shattered glass is contained. Issues, yes, that I'm going to be dealing with in the next few days w/r/t our own ghost light. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:39:07 -0400 Subject: Re: on a serious note From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Let's hope folks have a few bucks left for some entertainment, what with the prices of certain goods going up dramatically. Our gas prices went from 2.47 to 2.99 overnight last night. sjl > From: MissWisc [at] aol.com > Also gonna take us in the entertainment industry to give people a few hours > of time where they can laugh and get away from that stress. > > Kristi > > > > > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050831123630.01e479d0 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:41:52 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Plagairiam/ Ignoring Rights In-Reply-To: References: The Secret Service used to be part of the Treasury Department. A primary role is still investigation of counterfeiting--identity theft falls under that heading. Their full timeline and other interesting tidbits, such as the fact that the FBI actually grew out of the Secret Service, is at: http://www.secretservice.gov/history.shtml Mike At 12:05 PM 8/31/2005, Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: >By the way, I found out (the hard way, alas) who investigates identity >theft. It's not your local police department (they'll just take a report). >It's not the FBI. > >It's the United States Secret Service. ------------------------------ From: "Simon Shuker" Subject: RE: on a serious note Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:49:35 +0400 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050831174947.BAA8957A0 [at] mail05.powweb.com> We had a 32% rise last night as well ............................................................ to $1.85 / imp gallon -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Steve Larson Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:39 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: on a serious note For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Let's hope folks have a few bucks left for some entertainment, what with the prices of certain goods going up dramatically. Our gas prices went from 2.47 to 2.99 overnight last night. sjl > From: MissWisc [at] aol.com > Also gonna take us in the entertainment industry to give people a few > hours of time where they can laugh and get away from that stress. > > Kristi > > > > > ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Ghost light Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:57:38 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C8E6 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Wobble Light is the closest thing I have found (a little on the=20 > expensive side but looks sturdy) At about $150 for the 120W fluorescent version...yeah, that's a little on the expensive side! :) OTOH, it might just be one of those things we need to try to find a way to work into the budget somehow...maybe we need that as an effect light someday? ------------------------------ Subject: RE: on a serious note Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:59:21 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C8E7 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > We had a 32% rise last night as well=20 > ............................................................=20 > to $1.85 / imp gallon=20 $1.85?? Where do you live? I haven't seen the sunny side of $2 in months... ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <8d.2e615626.30474c61 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:09:37 EDT Subject: Re: on a serious note In a message dated 8/31/05 1:33:19 PM, brooklyn [at] dopher.com writes: << "In our lifetime" may be a little extreme... >> to clarify, , I was refering to the over all economic effect here at home, , no the loss of life probably won't equal the stampede today in Bahgdad, , but I don't think New Orleans, Biloxi and Gulfport will return to anything resembling their former "economic" selves for 10 years, it's bad, , very best, Keith Arsenault ------------------------------ From: "Simon Shuker" Subject: RE: on a serious note Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:24:05 +0400 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050831182416.321D45863 [at] mail05.powweb.com> Dubai, United Arab Emirates (note imp gal not US gal) -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Paul Schreiner Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:59 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: on a serious note For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > We had a 32% rise last night as well > ............................................................ > to $1.85 / imp gallon $1.85?? Where do you live? I haven't seen the sunny side of $2 in months... ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7c236702cbb1dbb4b7553c05705a65a2 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: on a serious note Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:23:33 -0400 > I can't help but wonder, however, how soon this storm and devastation > will be blamed on President Bush. In my previously mentioned google search I found a few articles about Bush decreasing spending on the flood management system. I imagine in a couple of more news cycles (when the general public gets bored of watching the waters subside) the "experts" will be on telling us "I told you so." Shortly after that the Democrats will tell us how they could have prevented all of this. It's just how politics work. I just pray politics stay out of the rescue and relief effort. There is plenty of time for that later. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050831133148.01cc4ab8 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:32:27 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: on a serious note In-Reply-To: References: ...and much lower shipping and handling fees! At 01:24 PM 8/31/2005, Simon Shuker wrote: >Dubai, United Arab Emirates (note imp gal not US gal) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c99805083111434f682e1 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:43:10 -0400 From: Scott Parker Subject: Re: Collage Fair NYC-Sept. 24th In-Reply-To: References: Yup, you got me. At 5:45 this morning, I was off my game...=20 But, I happen think it is a "great" thing to "meet" you Herrick;-) btw, it was all spelled correctly; it's just that the words were chosen blearily. Scott On 8/31/05, Herrick Goldman wrote: > Ahem, um Scott....Buddy... >=20 > Why would I want to learn Collage at a fair? How do you know my Meet wil= l > be great? >=20 > You may want to talk to CB about some spellcheck. >=20 --=20 Take care, Scott =09Scott C. Parker =09Professor/Technical Director =09Dept. of Performing Arts =09Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University =09Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F =09Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza=20 =09New York, NY 10038 =09212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:01:36 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Kanyuck" Subject: Re: Ghost light + ready made Thanks so far for the info. "I" know it's a liability issue not to have one just as it's a liability issue that if you dig a hole you have to cover it up so that the burglar doesn't fall in and break his neck. Trying to convince the security division is the problem. The unit that I'm using as a Ghost Light I bought from Home Depot. It was even on a flyer that Home Depot sent out this month. UL listed, suitable for wet locations, has two 60W flourescent bulbs in it. Very stable tripod setup, it's a dark copper color 4" tube with black legs. The whole thing collapses with a carry strap. I'll try to get a picture of it for people who are interested in it to contact me offlist and I'll send it to you. Cost was $49.00. I dno't remember the name of it. It only has a model number on it, WLB3-H. Jeff Kanyuck Technical Director Cultural Events & Performing Arts Chesapeake Building Harford Community College 401 Thomas Run Road Bel Air, MD 21015 410-836-4369 Office 410-322-5905 Cellphone jkanyuck [at] harford.edu >>> mgoebel [at] gmail.com 8/31/2005 11:00 AM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Does anyone make 'ready out of the box' ghostlights? I've only ever seen DIY ones... -- Mat Goebel www.matgoebel.com Mobile: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:55:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Ghost light + ready made From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: >"I" know it's a liability issue not to have > one just as it's a liability issue that if you dig a hole you have to > cover it up so that the burglar doesn't fall in and break his neck. Well, if someone *does* fall off the edge of the stage in the dark, just hope it's the security guard that turned the ghost light off! > Trying to convince the security division is the problem. > The unit that I'm using as a Ghost Light I bought from Home Depot. . >UL listed, suitable for wet locations, has two 60W flourescent bulbs in it. Very stable tripod setup, it's a dark copper color 4" tube with black legs. What is it about the unit that they think is unsafe? I already deleted your first post, but it seems to me you said something about a fire hazard. On what do they base that thought? I think you said something about having to prove that it's safe. Being a commercial item, and UL listed that shouldn't be a problem. Are they perhaps concerned about the tripping hazard from the power cord across the floor? It would help immensely to know specifically what they object to and why. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:28:19 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Kanyuck" Subject: Re: Ghost light + ready made >>> bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com 8/31/2005 3:55 PM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- >>"I" know it's a liability issue not to have >> one just as it's a liability issue that if you dig a hole you have to >> cover it up so that the burglar doesn't fall in and break his neck. > Well, if someone *does* fall off the edge of the stage in the dark, just >hope it's the security guard that turned the ghost light off! >> Trying to convince the security division is the problem. >> The unit that I'm using as a Ghost Light I bought from Home Depot. >. >>UL listed, suitable for wet locations, has two 60W flourescent bulbs in it. >>Very stable tripod setup, it's a dark copper color 4" tube with black legs. > What is it about the unit that they think is unsafe? I already deleted >your first post, but it seems to me you said something about a fire hazard. >On what do they base that thought? > I think you said something about having to prove that it's safe. Being a >commercial item, and UL listed that shouldn't be a problem. > Are they perhaps concerned about the tripping hazard from the power cord >across the floor? It would help immensely to know specifically what they >object to and why. >Bruce >-- >Bruce Purdy >Technical Director >Smith Opera House They Feel that because it works on electricity and power is flowing that it is a fire hazard. They go around turning off ALL the lights in everyone's offices. I can see that it would save on energy costs and bulb life. But, I can't see it being that much of a fire hazard. Jeff Kanyuck ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:49:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Ghost light + ready made From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > They Feel that because it works on electricity and power is flowing > that it is a fire hazard. > They go around turning off ALL the lights in everyone's offices. As someone already mentioned, Do they expect to turn off the emergency exit signs? There is electricity flowing there as well! Is there a room light / work lights / house lights switch on the wall just inside the door? (Every entrance) If so, they may have a stronger case to argue against. In my Theatre, you have to find your way across a dark stage (and unknown sets) to get to a breaker box to turn any lights on. If that is your situation as well, then you've got a serious safety case to be made! Also, is this an official policy coming from the head of the security dept., or a maverick guard? Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43161B54.A9210952 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:04:20 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Ghost light + ready made References: Jeffrey Kanyuck wrote: > > > They Feel that because it works on electricity and power is flowing > that it is a fire hazard. > They go around turning off ALL the lights in everyone's offices. I can > see that it would save on energy costs and bulb life. But, I can't see > it being that much of a fire hazard. > Jeff Kanyuck If you wanted to mess with their heads some. rewire the ghost light switch such that if they turn off one light, it turns on another light nearby. Wouldn't be that hard to do. Put the switch that actually turns off the lights in the booth. --Dale ------------------------------ From: "Chris Warner" Subject: RE: OSHA lifting limitations Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:18:07 -0700 Message-ID: <003c01c5ae79$dd70f310$6401a8c0 [at] chris> In-Reply-To: -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of doran [at] bard.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:54 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: OSHA lifting limitations >Chris, > >Does this involve a barrell of bricks and an insurance claim explaination? > >Andy C-D No, it was a 75lb battery that had to be lifted to a roof. I repair/maintain emergency lighting systems for a living (well until I get my MFA in design) and a battery had failed in this inverter. Chris -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 8/31/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 8/31/2005 ------------------------------ From: "Jon Lagerquist" Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:54:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Ghost light + ready made Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com Message-ID: <4315E0E2.8055.A7D4707 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: References: What we have used for years is a drop light hung from the first catwalk. Some of them we have had to change the cage so it is open on all sides. I buy the ones without a switch. This method keeps them high so there is a good spread of light, they are out of the way and hard to get to to turn off. Jon Jon Lagerquist Technical Director [at] South Coast Repertory Costa Mesa, CA ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <24A8F7E7-E39C-4687-9919-9DA447C746F9 [at] olivetcollege.edu> From: Arthur Williams Subject: Re: Inexpensive Flooring Systems? Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:28:18 -0400 We are currently looking into redoing our floor, and Plyron certainly sounds like the way to go. For those of you who have used it, I was wondering about spacing. It sounds like the sheets must be spaced to avoid buckling. How large a gap do you need when laying the floor? Thanks in advance. On Jul 19, 2005, at 11:08 AM, Greg Bierly wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > >> I'm looking into different ways of repairing/replacing/refinishing >> our >> stage floor right now, but nothing really appeals to all people >> involved. >> > > As one that had the cheap pine tongue and groove stagefloor > refinished once and finally STAINED black, then covered with with > tempered hardboard two years later(I order it as a Duron part # > from my supplier). I will never go back. I love the surface and > that it can be painted easily. Tape does peel up the surface at > times but the underlaying pine used to splinter severely, even > after the refinishing. I use a Duron paint mixture (5 parts flat > black, 1 part gloss black, and 1 part water) that seems to be a > good trade off to the low sheen to easy sweep up. It took me a > couple of tries to get the spacing right so it didn't buckle due to > humidity changes. In a new install I would seriously look at > Plyron. Good luck and feel free to contact me off list for any > more detail or suggestions. > > > Greg Bierly > Technical Director > Hempfield HS > > Arthur E. Williams, Ph. D. Director of Theatre 136 Upton Conservatory Olivet College Olivet, MI 49076 269 749-7246 web.olivetcollege.edu/Theatre/index.html ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43166927.2060209 [at] fuse.net> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:36:23 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: on a serious note References: In-Reply-To: MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > _Lamplighter [at] tcon.net_ (mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net) writes: < help but wonder, however, how soon this storm and devastation will be blamed on > President Bush.>> > > Our US President is powerful, but he's not God. This is certainly in the > "Act of God" (Allah, Jehova, G-d, Goddess, etc. please use the term you > prefer.) category. > > Blame does nothing to solve the situation. BZZZZ I'm sorry, you are completely wrong. This was an act of NATURE, and we've collectively as a nation, and as the developed world, been screwing with nature for the past 200 odd years. Through the levvee system, we've kept the wetlands (that used to sheild NO from the direct impact of hurricanes) from getting the silt they needed to live. We've heated our atmosphere and oceans so monsters like this become more and more likely. We are utterly dependant on non-renewable fossil fuels and a massive percentage of our national energy supply is centered in an area prone to periodic natural disasters. Though we knew this would be a huge storm, we have JUST dispatched hospital ships from Baltimore...why were they not sent on their way in ANTICIPATION of need? It would be easier to recall them than wait for them. Though NO is/was a Prime target, there was no major redundant power and communications system in place. And last of all, why would anyone build a city and live in a city where one major power failure or levee break is all it takes to flood it out? Don't blame God, get a mirror and blame yourself. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43166F78.40504 [at] fuse.net> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:03:20 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: OT: Removing stuck drain cap. References: In-Reply-To: Scott Parker wrote: > Greetings all, > I'm trying to get a drain cap out of a drain. The brainiacks who were > renovating my basement before I bought the house screwed in a drain > cap before pouring cement into the floor of the shower. I've chiseled > out all the cement around the threaded insert, but it's still stuck. > Almost like using super lock-tight. > Any suggestions as to getting this out? > My next step may be to drill it out. It's a 2" line though. PVC, Lead or Brass? A torch should get you there with a lead cap, and might free a brass one, a chisel will either cut up the pvc or spin it out, and a cold chisel will do the same for brass. It might just be wedged tight, try cutting a cross in the top of it with a grinder or drill to relieve the pressure against the walls of the pipe.... It could be worse, you could have a drain full of cured cement. I was on a ship fresh out of drydock once, the tile guys had washed their grout tools in the restrooms as they refurbished them. By the end of the first week of cruising there was not one functional public restroom. Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 00:41:41 -0400 Subject: Re: on a serious note From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > This was an act of NATURE, and we've collectively as a > nation, and as the developed world, been screwing with > nature for the past 200 odd years. Stuart, I suppose your comments are highly "politically incorrect", but they are also spot on! Congratulations on your bravery, and thank you for speaking the truth. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 00:58:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Inexpensive Flooring Systems? From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > We are currently looking into redoing our floor, and Plyron certainly > sounds like the way to go. For those of you who have used it, I was > wondering about spacing. It sounds like the sheets must be spaced to > avoid buckling. How large a gap do you need when laying the floor? Plyron is probably not what I would consider the most "Inexpensive Flooring System", but I would concur that it is the way to go. I'm still thrilled with our new (Year old) Plyron deck! As for spacing, the advice I had heard was to tape a dime to a Popsicle stick to use as a gage. Unfortunately, the carpenter that did my installation was not so consistent, and spaces range from butted together to 3/8"! I don't think Plyron is as subject to buckling as say consistent sheeting would be. I believe the spaces help prevent squeaking as the edges of the boards move lightly against each other underfoot though. A layer of craft paper underneath the Plyron helps with this as well. As I posted previously, do *not* use the "Pre-sanded" variety of Plyron! We ended up with a couple of rows of that upstage when the carpenter was unable to get enough of the regular kind in time to finish the job. :-{ Its softer surface just doesn't hold up as well, and needs to be re-painted much more often. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43168BA3.2B8DEB16 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:03:31 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: on a serious note References: Stuart Wheaton wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > > > _Lamplighter [at] tcon.net_ (mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net) writes: < > help but wonder, however, how soon this storm and devastation will be blamed on > > President Bush.>> > > > > Our US President is powerful, but he's not God. This is certainly in the > > "Act of God" (Allah, Jehova, G-d, Goddess, etc. please use the term you > > prefer.) category. > > > > Blame does nothing to solve the situation. > > BZZZZ I'm sorry, you are completely wrong. > > This was an act of NATURE, and we've collectively as a > nation, and as the developed world, been screwing with > nature for the past 200 odd years. > True, but nature is more resilient and complicated than you think. > > Through the levvee system, we've kept the wetlands (that > used to sheild NO from the direct impact of hurricanes) from > getting the silt they needed to live. > While the levee system has many faults, basic to the entire concept, the shielding effect of the wetlands was not really a factor in this storm. This is the subject of a surprising number of really thick books with lots of formulae in them, so I won't try to summarize them here. > > We've heated our atmosphere and oceans so monsters like this > become more and more likely. > Global warming still hasn't been proven, let alone proven to be man-made. > > We are utterly dependant on non-renewable fossil fuels and a > massive percentage of our national energy supply is centered > in an area prone to periodic natural disasters. > As long as we drink oil, we gotta drill where the oil is. Again, lots of thick books, nearly all of them with biases in them. > > Though we knew this would be a huge storm, we have JUST > dispatched hospital ships from Baltimore...why were they not > sent on their way in ANTICIPATION of need? It would be > easier to recall them than wait for them. > In order to send the hospital ships, the navy has to staff them up and stock up on supplies. This entails moving *lots* of cargo onto the ship out of the warehouse, and essentially shutting down (in this case) Bethesda Naval Hospital since the staff is going to sail away on the ship. All those patients at Bethesda still need to be cared for or transferred to other facilities, or a big chunk of naval reserve medical units get activated to backfill into Bethesda. This takes a week minimum. You could send the ship ahead without supplies or most of it's staff, but then you would have to fly them all down there on an already overburdened air transport system. > > Though NO is/was a Prime target, there was no major > redundant power and communications system in place. > Actually there is, but nowhere near enough to keep the normal operations of the city going. > > And last of all, why would anyone build a city and live in a > city where one major power failure or levee break is all it > takes to flood it out? Because when the location of the town of New Orleans was chosen, the river was lower, the ocean was closer, and the ground was higher. That was a couple hundred years ago. When you build a major city on a muddy riverbank, in a major river delta system, the city sinks down into the mud. This is accelerated by the pumps that have been removing water from inside the city levees for the last 80 or so years. The river wants to leave New Orleans, to find a shorter path to the ocean. The Corps of Engineers have been working like heck to keep the river there, but I'm betting on the river is going to win in the long term. When that happens, what's left of new orleans will turn into a ghost town. Mother nature doesn't give a damn about bourbon street. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000501c5aeb4$3e4ce420$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: on a serious note Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:16:01 -0700 > Global warming still hasn't been proven, let alone proven to > be man-made. ?????????? ...whatever..... - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050831221736.z7o08gk4cgcos4w4 [at] www.email.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:17:36 -0700 From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Backup power References: In-Reply-To: Quoting Stuart Wheaton : > Though NO is/was a Prime target, there was no major > redundant power and communications system in place. Odd, Working on the Louisianna World Exposition a few years back, we were loading into the Convention Center (it seemed as it was being built) We would lose power all the time and wonder when the backup generators would kick in. Never, was the answer we were given, as the "backup" was just a different feed from the other end of the building, coming from another substation. It hardly ever switched over... I wonder how they are able to get away with that, and how many buildings across the world use that kind of backup power. Just wondering... Mark-O (It was kinda weird looking out over the seawalls, and seeing the barges way ABOVE our heads) Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music 520-621-7025 520-591-1803 Mobile ------------------------------ From: megironda [at] att.net (Gerry G.) Cc: jonares [at] hevanet.com (Jon Ares) Subject: Re: on a serious note Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 05:25:00 +0000 Message-Id: <090120050525.29827.431690AC000605400000748321602807480E0B02019D07090A03 [at] att.net> I have not met a "man of science" anywhere that will not acknowledge we are at the advent of a global warming crisis. On the other hand I saw this great T-shirt about a town in Texas looking for it's idiot... -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Jon Ares" > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Global warming still hasn't been proven, let alone proven to > > be man-made. > > > ?????????? > > ...whatever..... > > - Jon Ares > www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 06:32:33 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Backup power In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Mark O'Brien wrote: > Working on the Louisianna World Exposition a few years back, we were loading 1984? Hey! I worked on that, too, and found the same issues! Amazing really... but what a great town ;-) I always wondered how much of that incredible energy was because of their tenuous location.... Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 06:34:05 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: on a serious note In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Bruce Purdy wrote: > Stuart, I suppose your comments are highly "politically incorrect", but > they are also spot on! Congratulations on your bravery, and thank you for > speaking the truth. Yep.... yep.... yep.... Charlie ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4733.64.28.54.116.1125553916.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Ghost light + ready made From: "Bill Nelson" > If you wanted to mess with their heads some. rewire the ghost light > switch such that if they turn off one light, it turns on another light > nearby. > Wouldn't be that hard to do. Put the switch that actually turns off the > lights in the booth. Heh! Heh! I like that. Hard wire the ghost light, so it cannot be unplugged. Make it hard to get to the bulb so it cannot easily be unscrewed. Then all you need is a 3 way switch and some creative wiring so that either the ghost light or a work light is on. Of course, this could be overridden by the unlabeled light switch in the tech booth. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4778.64.28.54.116.1125556421.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: on a serious note From: "Bill Nelson" > I have not met a "man of science" anywhere that will not acknowledge we > are at the advent of a global warming crisis. On the other hand I saw this > great T-shirt about a town in Texas looking for it's idiot... There is no question that the Earth is currently warming. Nothing unusual there, that happens even without mankind around. Witness previous warmings with sea levels far above where they are now - as well as the ice ages that have occurred. The mechanism(s) that cause them are unknown - although there are various theories. We also don't know if mankind is contributing significantly to the warming trend. Is it a "crisis"? I suppose that depends on your viewpoint. For low lying cities, it certainly is a concern. Those living at higher elevations might appreciate having the ocean a lot closer. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4316A160.A1A2DE0 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:36:16 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Ghost light + ready made References: Bill Nelson wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > If you wanted to mess with their heads some. rewire the ghost light > > switch such that if they turn off one light, it turns on another light > > nearby. > > Wouldn't be that hard to do. Put the switch that actually turns off the > > lights in the booth. > > Heh! Heh! I like that. > > Hard wire the ghost light, so it cannot be unplugged. Make it hard to get > to the bulb so it cannot easily be unscrewed. > > Then all you need is a 3 way switch and some creative wiring so that > either the ghost light or a work light is on. Of course, this could be > overridden by the unlabeled light switch in the tech booth. > > Bill To really mess with their heads, find a semi random delay timer. they 'turn it off', the light goes out, and a few seconds later, another light turns on. --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:04:16 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: on a serious note In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Gerry G. wrote: > I have not met a "man of science" anywhere that will not acknowledge we are at > the advent of a global warming crisis. On the other hand I saw this great > T-shirt about a town in Texas looking for it's idiot... http://www.thereef.ws/reef2/images/admin/trolls/images/politically_incorrect_and_proud_of_it.jpg My new logo... Charlie ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #506 *****************************