Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 24615290; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 03:00:40 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #512 Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 03:00:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, BUY_DIRECT autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #512 1. Re: Doing something - student opportunity by Steve Larson 2. Re: Computers in Architecture class by "Kevin Linzey" 3. Re: Podcasts by "C. Dopher" 4. Re: home generators by "Kevin Linzey" 5. Keyboard Needed by "C. Andrew Dunning" 6. Re: Keyboard Needed by Delbert Hall 7. Re: Keyboard Needed by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 8. Re: Keyboard Needed by "Mike Burnett" 9. Re: Keyboard Needed by Steve Larson 10. Re: Keyboard Needed by MissWisc [at] aol.com 11. Re: Re[2]: home generators by Wood Chip-P26398 12. Soundproofing by ken frederickson 13. Re: Soundproofing by Richard Bakos 14. Re: Soundproofing by "Peter Scheu" 15. Re: Keyboard Needed by "C. Andrew Dunning" 16. Re: Keyboard Needed by "C. Andrew Dunning" 17. Noises Off Artwork by "Storms, Randy" 18. CAD Symbol by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 19. Re: Soundproofing by ken frederickson 20. Hearing impaired students by Joseph Champelli 21. Notes from the warehouse (long again! Sorry....) by CB 22. Re: Hearing impaired students by "Ray-Pfeifer, Merel" 23. Re: Hearing impaired students by "Donald Robert Fox" 24. Re: Noises Off Artwork by "Alf Sauve" 25. Re: Hearing impaired students by Steve Larson 26. Re: Noises Off Artwork by "Storms, Randy" 27. Re: Hearing impaired students by "James, Brian" 28. Re: Hearing impaired students by "Stephen E. Rees" 29. Re: Hearing impaired students by rwhitco [at] comcast.net 30. Re: Noises Off Artwork by "Alf Sauve" 31. Re: Noises Off Artwork by "Storms, Randy" 32. Re: Hearing impaired students by Joseph Champelli 33. Re: Hearing impaired students by Joseph Champelli 34. Re: Hearing impaired students by Joseph Champelli 35. Re: Hearing impaired students by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 36. Painting for ART by Steve Larson 37. Subject: RE: on a serious note by "Michael Finney" 38. Re: Hearing impaired students by Delbert Hall 39. Re: on a serious note & Hearing Impared students. by MissWisc [at] aol.com 40. Re: Noises Off Artwork by Bruce Purdy 41. Re: Noises Off Artwork by "Jon Ares" 42. From Frank: Repost by "Jon Ares" 43. Re: Hearing impaired students by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 44. Re: Hearing impaired students by "Jon Ares" 45. Re: Hearing impaired students by Dale Farmer 46. Re: Katrina - Live Entertainment Industry Resources List by "RD" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:32:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Doing something - student opportunity From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Quite a few universities are also trying to get some of the displaced faculty for a semester also. Steve > From: "James, Brian" ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Linzey" Cc: scparker [at] gmail.com Subject: RE: Computers in Architecture class Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:47:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Scott, You may want to post your question on the Nemetschek Tech Board > Academic Discussions > Instructor Discussion http://techboard.nemetschek.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=35 Kevin ---------------------------- Kevin Linzey Nemetschek North America Integrated Products Engineer ----------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf > Of Scott Parker > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 2:49 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Computers in Architecture class > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Dear listers, > I've been asked to take over a colleague's class: "Computers > in Architecture" and I'm hoping some of you would be willing > to share some pearls of wisdom. > I have taught Acad several times for set and lighting design, > but this class needs to go farther. > > Here's from the student guide: Computers in Architecture > 4cr. > This is an introductory course to the use of computer-aided > drafting technology, and the concept of 3D modeling. Students > will gain direct experience by using computers to model > three-dimensional space. Such topics as CADD, 3D modeling, > and rendering will be introduced as tools available for > spatial representation and professional presentation. > 4 hr./wk.; > _______ > > I do have a few favorite sites that I've found very valuable. > http://www.cadtutor.net/ > http://www.archidigm.com/lounge/index.htm > http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/autoindex?siteID=123112&i > d=2253423&linkID=2475176 > > Thanks, Scott > > -- > Take care, Scott > > Scott C. Parker > Professor/Technical Director > Dept. of Performing Arts > Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University > Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F > Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza > New York, NY 10038 > 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:52:32 -0400 Subject: Re: Podcasts From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20050905115439.00ce54c8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> On 9/5/05 11:54 AM, "CB" wrote: >> He >> also has a show called "twit" (This Week in Tech.) > > > Let him know that the live, variety/comedy show called "This Week In > Tucson" has been using the moniker "TWIT" for two decades. There may be a > bit of a conflict in the intellectual property arena. Didn't we just go over this intellectual property stuff ad nauseum for the last two weeks? Would the TWIT issue fall under the same rules as ACT - separate and discrete and non-competitive, etc? Cris Dopher /oh look, the little metal teeth in the treadmill belt just passed us by ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Linzey" Cc: scparker [at] gmail.com Subject: RE: home generators Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:58:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Scott, I live in an area that's prone to power outages and did some research before I installed mine. There are three basic types of transfer switches. One is basically a double throw switch that you put in the main feed. You can get these in manual or automatic versions. It just switches the main feed from the power company to the generator. Second a circuit transfer box. This is a set of small double pole switches, one for each device you want to power. It's wired so that the common terminal of the switch foes to the circuit, one side of the switches attaches to the existing circuit breaker, the other attaches to the generator feed. You flip the individual switches to transfer the circuit to generator power and it will automatically disconnect it from the main power. I think as of the 2006 version of the NEC this type of device will no longer be aloud. The third is an interlock device. You feed the generator power into the main electrical panel through a circuit breaker. The interlock device only allows the main circuit breaker OR the generator circuit breaker to be turned on. I have worked with all three types and they all have their place. I have the interlock device on house, my neighbor has the circuit transfer box on his. Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf > Of Scott Parker > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 2:29 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: home generators > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings All, > With all that's happened, and the blackout of 2 years ago... > Does anyone have/use emergency generators? How do you have > them hooked up? > I know that if they are hooked into the main supply, the > supply needs to get disconnected from the street. To avoid > shocking electrical workers. Not to mention lighting the rest > of the street. > > Thanks, > > -- > Take care, Scott > > Scott C. Parker > Professor/Technical Director > Dept. of Performing Arts > Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University > Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F > Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza > New York, NY 10038 > 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 > ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: Keyboard Needed Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:18:15 -0500 Organization: Landru Design Message-ID: Good Morning! I'm trying to find an electronic piano and amplifier to rent for my sister to play for our grandmother's funeral. I'm searching in the Roanoke Rapids/Rocky Mount area of NC. So far, I'm batting 0. Can any of you help me? Thanks! C. Andrew Dunning Landru Design - Nashville, TN - cad [at] landrudesign.com www.landrudesign.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:39:33 -0400 From: Delbert Hall Cc: cad [at] landrudesign.com Subject: Re: Keyboard Needed In-Reply-To: References: Andrew, =20 I am in Johnson City, TN. I have a keyboard with a built-in amp and speaker. I do not have an external amp. If this will work, call me late this afternoon. Delbert 714-585-7070 =20 On 9/6/05, C. Andrew Dunning wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Good Morning! >=20 > I'm trying to find an electronic piano and amplifier to rent for my siste= r > to play for our grandmother's funeral. I'm searching in the Roanoke > Rapids/Rocky Mount area of NC. So far, I'm batting 0. Can any of you he= lp > me? >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > C. Andrew Dunning > Landru Design > - > Nashville, TN > - > cad [at] landrudesign.com > www.landrudesign.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 Delbert L. Hall ZFX -Technical Coordinator for Classic Productions Phone: 714-585-7070 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Cc: cad [at] landrudesign.com Subject: RE: Keyboard Needed Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:46:06 -0400 Message-ID: <001a01c5b2f1$b95d2940$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: Andrew, I'm sorry for your loss. > I'm trying to find an electronic piano and amplifier to rent > for my sister to play for our grandmother's funeral. I'm > searching in the Roanoke Rapids/Rocky Mount area of NC. So > far, I'm batting 0. Can any of you help me? ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Keyboard Needed Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:58:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Mike Burnett" I used to live in RM. If you contact the Dunn Center for the Performing Arts at North Carolina Wesleyan College, they might be able to help. The number is 252-985-5100 for the main switchboard. You can also contact the Playhouse Community Theatre...ask for Mo. Their number is 252-972-1441. Last I remember both the Dunn Center and the Playhouse had keyboards and amps. Not sure if they would rent, but they might loan to a fellow thespian in need. If not, they could probably point you to the people that rent around there. M > Good Morning! >=20 > I'm trying to find an electronic piano and amplifier to rent for my=20 > sister to play for our grandmother's funeral. I'm searching in the=20 > Roanoke Rapids/Rocky Mount area of NC. So far, I'm batting 0. Can=20 > any of you help me? >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > C. Andrew Dunning > Landru Design > - > Nashville, TN > - > cad [at] landrudesign.com > www.landrudesign.com >=20 Mike Burnett, M.F.A. Assistant Professor of Theatre Chair, Department of Theatre =20 Huntington University Impact your World...for Christ...in Scholarship...through Service =20 260-359-4279 office 260-359-4249 fax =20 mburnett [at] huntington.edu www.huntington.edu/theatre =20 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers =20 Galatians 6:9-10=20 "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." --Hamlet (I, v, 166-167) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:01:07 -0400 Subject: Re: Keyboard Needed From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: In Raleigh, you might try Maus Piano and Organ at 919-782-8391, Burrage Music Co at 919-872-0211. Steve > From: "C. Andrew Dunning" > Organization: Landru Design > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:18:15 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Keyboard Needed > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Good Morning! > > I'm trying to find an electronic piano and amplifier to rent for my sister > to play for our grandmother's funeral. I'm searching in the Roanoke > Rapids/Rocky Mount area of NC. So far, I'm batting 0. Can any of you help > me? > > Thanks! > > C. Andrew Dunning > Landru Design > - > Nashville, TN > - > cad [at] landrudesign.com > www.landrudesign.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <76.5af7c506.304f125d [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:40:13 EDT Subject: Re: Keyboard Needed Andrew - Call local music stores and ask. Most of them will rent equipment. Might even just let you use it for the day given the circumstances. Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2E3198416D5E7A4FB3FEC7E6838FE36B0B1A88 [at] ct11exm60.ds.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: Re[2]: home generators Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:37:14 -0700 Worst thing that ever happened to send America down this road to over-consumption was walk-in closets! Now you are required to fill them. Chip -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sapsis Amen. On 9/3/05 10:24 PM, "Stephen Litterst" wrote: > America isn't about need anymore. Hasn't been for quite some time. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050906164206.49754.qmail [at] web50804.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:42:06 -0700 (PDT) From: ken frederickson Subject: Soundproofing In-Reply-To: I want to add some soft surfaces in our auditorium. right now the walls are a textured concrete. Picture 2x4 studs on 3" centers as the texture. also our floors are bare concrete. the sound can get a little live... What do you think of flats constructed out of polystyrene foam covered in duvetyn and hung along the side and back walls of an auditorium as soundproofing? what are other economical materials that can be used that might be better? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <431DC984.207 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:53:24 -0500 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: Soundproofing References: In-Reply-To: Fire Trap, Disaster Polystyrene From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Expanded polystyrene used to contain CFCs but other, more environmentally-safe blowing agents are now used. Because it is an aromatic hydrocarbon , polystyrene is flammable and burns with an orange-yellow flame giving off soot , as opposed to non-aromatic hydrocarbon polymers such as polyethylene, which burn with a light yellow flame (often with a blue tinge) and no soot . ken frederickson wrote: >What do you think of flats constructed out of >polystyrene foam covered in duvetyn and hung along the >side and back walls of an auditorium as soundproofing? > > -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Subject: RE: Soundproofing Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 13:21:38 -0400 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: In-reply-to: ken frederickson wrote: >I want to add some soft surfaces in our auditorium. >what are other economical materials that can be used >that might be better? The "system" you are considering seems very labor intensive to install, = and potentially very dangerous if your materials are not flame retardant = and/or fire resistive. There exists "off the shelf" acoustic absorbers and diffusers = (reflectors) that you buy direct from Wenger and other manufacturer's (like CONWED). = If you're feeling fairly confident about what you're doing to the space acoustically, I'd recommend these over any "home brewed" system as they = are fire rated (usually Class A), and very, very easy to install. Any manufacturer's rep worth his salt would help guide you through the = process. While initially more costly to buy than what you are considering, the = saving in install labor could be significant Another "cheap" alternative is to hang heavy velour drapes about 6" off = the wall. But even if they are flame retardant treated, you'll have to get = them re-treated every several years. A pain, and an added maintenance = expense. Peter Scheu =20 Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Syracuse, NY www.scheuconsulting.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: RE: Keyboard Needed Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 13:57:31 -0500 Organization: Landru Design In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you all for your direction! Things are now covered. I really appreciate your taking the time to help me out... - Andy ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: RE: Keyboard Needed Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 13:57:31 -0500 Organization: Landru Design In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kristi - That's the challenge - finding music stores who have the stuff in the first place. - Andy >-----Original Message----- >From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf >Of MissWisc [at] aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:40 AM >To: Stagecraft >Subject: Re: Keyboard Needed > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > >--------------------------------------------------- > >Andrew - > >Call local music stores and ask. Most of them will rent >equipment. Might even just let you use it for the day given >the circumstances. > >Kristi > ------------------------------ Subject: Noises Off Artwork Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:42:49 -0700 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B70538C010 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" We are producing Noises Off this Fall, and I'm looking for a source for = the color posters featuring a cartoon of Dotty racing through the door = with a plate of sardines. A brief web search revealed amateur groups = all over the world all using this same image, but I can't seem to find a = source... Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: CAD Symbol Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:54:13 -0400 Message-ID: <002501c5b31c$c5121540$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: Does anyone out there have a symbol you reallyreallyreally like for a half-high-hat? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050906200143.35150.qmail [at] web50810.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 13:01:43 -0700 (PDT) From: ken frederickson Subject: Re: Soundproofing Cc: peter [at] scheuconsulting.com In-Reply-To: thanks. thats exactly what I wanted to hear! --- Peter Scheu wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > ken frederickson wrote: > > >I want to add some soft surfaces in our auditorium. > > > > >what are other economical materials that can be > used > >that might be better? > > The "system" you are considering seems very labor > intensive to install, and > potentially very dangerous if your materials are not > flame retardant and/or > fire resistive. > > There exists "off the shelf" acoustic absorbers and > diffusers (reflectors) > that you buy direct from Wenger and other > manufacturer's (like CONWED). If > you're feeling fairly confident about what you're > doing to the space > acoustically, I'd recommend these over any "home > brewed" system as they are > fire rated (usually Class A), and very, very easy to > install. Any > manufacturer's rep worth his salt would help guide > you through the process. > > While initially more costly to buy than what you are > considering, the saving > in install labor could be significant > > Another "cheap" alternative is to hang heavy velour > drapes about 6" off the > wall. But even if they are flame retardant treated, > you'll have to get them > re-treated every several years. A pain, and an added > maintenance expense. > > Peter Scheu > > Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. > Syracuse, NY > www.scheuconsulting.com > > ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <621d2eb005090613397cb275f2 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 16:39:53 -0400 From: Joseph Champelli Subject: Hearing impaired students Question for those with experience teaching basic stagecraft. I'm on my 3rd round of the basic stagecraft class here at UT and this time I have two hearing impaired students in the class. There is a an interpreter that signs during "classroom" lectures, but I have some concerns about the shop work. I.e. yelling "heads" doesn't quite work. Or "stop!" if they're about to cut off a thumb on the radial arm saw. I know I'm surfing the edge of political correctness, but I was wondering if/how others have handled this kind of thing. Joe --=20 Joseph Champelli University of Tennessee FTSI ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050906133722.00ce5660 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:37:22 From: CB Subject: Notes from the warehouse (long again! Sorry....) >Off to grab a beer and a nap. Beer good....nap better! If things get back to (relative) normal by the time your PHX gig comes up, beers are on me while your there. I am *this* far from bailing on my upcoming (tomorrow) gig and heading out to Pnchartrain to see where I can be helpful! The only thing keeping me on schedule is that nasty habit of seeing my promises through to the end. They've already lsot two A1's, I can't bail on them. Besides, the CM is coming in from that area, and I want him to have relative calm when he arrives. I'm sure he has had plenty to deal with, no reason to stack his plate. Your post brought tears to my eyes, brother, keep up the good work! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 16:57:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Hearing impaired students From: "Ray-Pfeifer, Merel" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Well it is not exactly the same but, I have a deaf cat, over the years she has never missed a meal (unless she was asleep) she is very attuned to what the other cats around her are doing. If you yell on a crowded stage the other students will run and probably grab a hand of someone who didn't hear it. I know that doorbells are replaced by flashing the lights in deaf homes. Is the interpreter going to be there for instructions and tool demos? Maybe they are needed for the lab as much as for the classroom. Perhaps you should discuss the matter with your students. Your concern for their safety goes beyond any concerns about being "PC". They may have a suggestion that would never occur to us "hearing" types. -- Merel Ray-Pfeifer Technical Director Dept of Speech Comm. & Dramatic Arts Central Michigan University Mt Pleasant, MI 48858 989/774-6594 On 9/6/05 4:39 PM, "Joseph Champelli" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Question for those with experience teaching basic stagecraft. > > I'm on my 3rd round of the basic stagecraft class here at UT and this > time I have two hearing impaired students in the class. There is a an > interpreter that signs during "classroom" lectures, but I have some > concerns about the shop work. I.e. yelling "heads" doesn't quite > work. Or "stop!" if they're about to cut off a thumb on the radial > arm saw. > > I know I'm surfing the edge of political correctness, but I was > wondering if/how others have handled this kind of thing. > > Joe > ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Donald Robert Fox" Subject: RE: Hearing impaired students Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 21:02:39 +0000

Does UT have a letter of accomadation for the student stating what you are supposed to legally provide?




Donald Robert Fox, M.F.A.
USA-AEA-IALD
Asst. Professor of Design
University of the Incarnate Word
Dept. of Theatre Arts

From:  Joseph Champelli <joechamp [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To:  "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
To:  "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Subject:  Hearing impaired students
Date:  Tue, 6 Sep 2005 16:39:53 -0400
For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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Question for those with experience teaching basic stagecraft.

I'm on my 3rd round of the basic stagecraft class here at UT and this
time I have two hearing impaired students in the class.  There is a an
interpreter that signs during "classroom" lectures, but I have some
concerns about the shop work.  I.e. yelling "heads" doesn't quite
work.  Or "stop!" if they're about to cut off a thumb on the radial
arm saw.

I know I'm surfing the edge of political correctness, but I was
wondering if/how others have handled this kind of thing.

Joe


--
Joseph Champelli
University of Tennessee
FTSI
------------------------------ Message-ID: <037601c5b324$b2bad370$0400a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" Subject: Re: Noises Off Artwork Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 16:50:59 -0400 And you don't make your own, with your own lead actress because? I take it this is an educational institution. Then put your other fine arts disciplines to work. Offer them fame and fortune, mostly the former, if they'll take the pictures and put the artwork together. Then all you have to pay for is the printing. I use budding high school and college artists whenever I need any artwork. Usually I offer them their name on the graphic, mention in the program and copyright of their work (so they own any future use of it). Alf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:39:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Hearing impaired students From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Several years ago I toured the Gallaudet Theatre in DC. Contact their TD and find out what they use there. I can't remember details. Steve > From: Joseph Champelli > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 16:39:53 -0400 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Hearing impaired students > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Question for those with experience teaching basic stagecraft. > > I'm on my 3rd round of the basic stagecraft class here at UT and this > time I have two hearing impaired students in the class. There is a an > interpreter that signs during "classroom" lectures, but I have some > concerns about the shop work. I.e. yelling "heads" doesn't quite > work. Or "stop!" if they're about to cut off a thumb on the radial > arm saw. > > I know I'm surfing the edge of political correctness, but I was > wondering if/how others have handled this kind of thing. > > Joe > > > -- > Joseph Champelli > University of Tennessee > FTSI > > ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Noises Off Artwork Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:44:56 -0700 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B70538C011 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" >And you don't make your own, with your own lead actress because? _____________________________ Choosing my battles - I'll have enough problems building the set that I = don't feel the need to take on an art project as well. Besides, I = *like* the poster I described, as is - and it is apparently available = (somewhere). -- r. Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Hearing impaired students Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:47:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: "James, Brian" In a shop I worked in, with a few hearing impaired employees, we used a = combination of a "cue light" type system and a whistle. Most of them = could hear the whistle and the "cue lights" we used to indicate = dangerous areas.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Joseph Champelli Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:40 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Hearing impaired students For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Question for those with experience teaching basic stagecraft. I'm on my 3rd round of the basic stagecraft class here at UT and this time I have two hearing impaired students in the class. There is a an interpreter that signs during "classroom" lectures, but I have some concerns about the shop work. I.e. yelling "heads" doesn't quite work. Or "stop!" if they're about to cut off a thumb on the radial arm saw. I know I'm surfing the edge of political correctness, but I was wondering if/how others have handled this kind of thing. Joe --=20 Joseph Champelli University of Tennessee FTSI ------------------------------ Message-ID: <431E10FF.2090804 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:58:23 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Hearing impaired students References: FYI< Their TD is the recently hired Anne Carncross. Steve Rees > Several years ago I toured the Gallaudet Theatre > in DC. Contact their TD and find out what they > use there. I can't remember details. > > Steve > ------------------------------ From: rwhitco [at] comcast.net Subject: Re: Hearing impaired students Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:46:39 +0000 Message-Id: <090620052246.26785.431E1C4F00050BCB000068A12200751090010C9B0708999D [at] comcast.net> A dozen years ago I was T.D. for a production at the Model Secondary School for The Deaf, located within the Galludet University campus. I didn't have a class, I did teach stagecraft to a crew of deaf students. The school provided interpreters, but they didn't always show up, and we managed rather well. First thing; there is a range of deafness. Unless they are profoundly deaf they most likely be able to hear something, such as yelling. Many deaf people can understand you as long as you are facing them, it all depends... When using an interpreter, make sure you speak to the student, not the interpreter, unless of course you need to speak to the interpreter. It seems rude at first to "ignore" someone standing next to you, but by addressing the intreperter you are ignoring the deaf person. Imagine a third party coming up and asking the person you are with if Joe would like a drink. I was pretty nervous at first, but soon came to really enjoy the experience. I had to make some small adjustments, but it was pretty much the same as working with any other groups of high school students. Randy Whicomb, TD Price Civic Aud. Loveland, CO > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Question for those with experience teaching basic stagecraft. > > I'm on my 3rd round of the basic stagecraft class here at UT and this > time I have two hearing impaired students in the class. There is a an > interpreter that signs during "classroom" lectures, but I have some > concerns about the shop work. I.e. yelling "heads" doesn't quite > work. Or "stop!" if they're about to cut off a thumb on the radial > arm saw. > > I know I'm surfing the edge of political correctness, but I was > wondering if/how others have handled this kind of thing. > > Joe > > > -- > Joseph Champelli > University of Tennessee > FTSI ------------------------------ Message-ID: <03dd01c5b334$e48e4ed0$0400a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" References: Subject: Re: Noises Off Artwork Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 18:46:37 -0400 Out of curiosity Randy, I sheparded a high school through this play. Designed and built the set. I called it the set from \\\\ er-r-r the set of 7 doors. They made a big production of turning the set. Curtain open. All carefully rehearsed. Done in mime under blue lighting. Much hand waving and a few comedy mime sketches to go with it. Act II to Act III change was done quicker, with the SM watching a stopwatch and taping her foot, because the novelty was gone by then. So how will your production handle it? Closed or opened curtain? Quietly or noisily? Will the stagehands have dialog? Sound effects? Or will you move the whole audience? Or maybe something totally different? Alf Battles? Battles? You mean Opportunities ;-) ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Noises Off Artwork Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 16:00:36 -0700 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B70538C012 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" Cc: alf.sauve [at] mindspring.com (Alf Sauve) >So how will your production handle it? Closed or opened curtain? = Quietly=20 >or noisily? Will the stagehands have dialog? Sound effects? Or will = you=20 >move the whole audience? Or maybe something totally different? _________________________ Revolving the Noises Off set should be pretty impressive in my case, as = I am building it on air bearings (which, as of today, *still* don't work = :< so we'll probably ham it up a bit. I've been thinking of = choreographing it to "Sprach Zarathustra" (theme from 2001: A Space = Odyssey), along with some appropriately dramatic lighting. Cheers, -- r. Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <621d2eb005090617102e47c71b [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:10:21 -0400 From: Joseph Champelli Subject: Re: Hearing impaired students In-Reply-To: References: Yes, it's the boilerplate "special accomodations, extra time taking tests" kind of thing. On 9/6/05, Donald Robert Fox wrote: >=20 >=20 > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 > Does UT have a letter of accomadation for the student stating what you ar= e > supposed to legally provide? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Donald Robert Fox, M.F.A.=20 > USA-AEA-IALD=20 > Asst. Professor of Design=20 > University of the Incarnate Word=20 > Dept. of Theatre Arts=20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > ________________________________ > =20 > From: Joseph Champelli > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Hearing impaired students > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 16:39:53 -0400 >=20 > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Question for those with experience teaching basic stagecraft. >=20 > I'm on my 3rd round of the basic stagecraft class here at UT and this > time I have two hearing impaired students in the class. There is a an > interpreter that signs during "classroom" lectures, but I have some > concerns about the shop work. I.e. yelling "heads" doesn't quite > work. Or "stop!" if they're about to cut off a thumb on the radial > arm saw. >=20 > I know I'm surfing the edge of political correctness, but I was > wondering if/how others have handled this kind of thing. >=20 > Joe >=20 >=20 > -- > Joseph Champelli > University of Tennessee > FTSI > =20 >=20 >=20 --=20 Joseph Champelli University of Tennessee FTSI ------------------------------ Message-ID: <621d2eb005090617117c243a01 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:11:18 -0400 From: Joseph Champelli Subject: Re: Hearing impaired students In-Reply-To: References: Thanks to both Steves, this is a great idea. J On 9/6/05, Stephen E. Rees wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > FYI< > Their TD is the recently hired Anne Carncross. > Steve Rees >=20 > > Several years ago I toured the Gallaudet Theatre > > in DC. Contact their TD and find out what they > > use there. I can't remember details. > > > > Steve > > >=20 >=20 --=20 Joseph Champelli University of Tennessee FTSI ------------------------------ Message-ID: <621d2eb0050906172954791029 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:29:47 -0400 From: Joseph Champelli Subject: Re: Hearing impaired students In-Reply-To: References: UT does provide interpreters for the shop time as well as class time.=20 They seem to be pretty consistent too, i.e the same interpreter has always shown up. > First thing; there is a range of deafness. Unless they are profoundly de= af they most likely be able to hear something, such as yelling. Many deaf p= eople can understand you as long as you are facing them, it all depends... I have two students, one is "profoundly deaf" and the other has some hearing. Both read lips very well. The issue entered my mind today as they did a simple project to become familiar with tools and I was standing monitoring over the shoulder of the profoundly deaf woman and I thought, what do I do if she needs to stop? FYI, I did address the issue with her. I told her that if I saw something that put her in danger, I would reach out and stop her, but I immediately thought that this might not be the best thing to do. > When using an interpreter, make sure you speak to the student, not the in= terpreter, unless of course you need to speak to the interpreter. =20 Yes, I learned this the hard way on the first day. >...Imagine a third party coming up and asking the person you are with if Joe would like a drink. >=20 This happens to me all the time, towards the end of a night out. ;) J --=20 Joseph Champelli University of Tennessee FTSI ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Hearing impaired students Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:49:07 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c5b345$f7843840$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > >...Imagine a third party coming up and asking the person you are with > if Joe would like a drink. My sister id blind. One night, she, her boyfriend (now husband) and I were at a restaurant. Scott ordered, I ordered, and then the waitress asked, "And what will she have?" Me (to Scott): "What will she have?" Scott (to Carla): "What will you have?" Carla (to Scott): "A hamburger." Scott (to me): "A hamburger." Me (to waitress): "A hamburger." ...And so on, through the entire ordering process.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 20:48:44 -0400 Subject: Painting for ART From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: A quick request for the solution to the reuse of the painting in ART. What are some of the "proven" solutions to getting the marker off the painting. Thanks, Steve ------------------------------ Subject: Subject: RE: on a serious note Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 18:22:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Michael Finney" On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: <> Kristi, I just almost passed a cup of coffee though my nose! All I can hear is my Irish Catholic mother saying "now, did you do your best dear?". See - that's why we should all be working with first response teams...we're resourceful, responsible, *and* amusing! =20 I can see the new motto on the wall: "It ain't done 'till Momma's happy" (OK, so it isn't as cool as the unofficial Coast Guard motto ("you have to go out - you *don't* have to come back"), but it's close...) =20 Michael Finney Thinkwell Design & Production mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com www.thinkwelldesign.com=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 21:30:11 -0400 From: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: Hearing impaired students In-Reply-To: References: I have taught several hearing impaired students in the past, although I have never had one in a "shop" class. These students have been very different. Some have been very hard workers, while others think the world owes then everything. My best hearing impaired students paid very close attention and wanted to be treated like any other student, and did extremely well in my class. My suggestion is to try to get to know each of these students before you get them in the shop. Learn if either student reads lips (lip readers seem to have been my best students). I would ask them individually about how much they want challenged in the course, and how they want to be treated in the shop. Ask if they have fears and deal with them. I might have a special session with their signers to go over what will occur in the shop, and to let them know that on certain occassions (such as when the student is working with power tools), they must be an extra set of eyes for you. I have found that hearing impared students can learn to do almost everything a hearing student can do, so don't underestimate them. Some hearing impaired students work much harder than the hearing students do excellent work and have a better attitude, but every student is different. -Delbert=20 On 9/6/05, Joseph Champelli wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Question for those with experience teaching basic stagecraft. >=20 > I'm on my 3rd round of the basic stagecraft class here at UT and this > time I have two hearing impaired students in the class. There is a an > interpreter that signs during "classroom" lectures, but I have some > concerns about the shop work. I.e. yelling "heads" doesn't quite > work. Or "stop!" if they're about to cut off a thumb on the radial > arm saw. >=20 > I know I'm surfing the edge of political correctness, but I was > wondering if/how others have handled this kind of thing. >=20 > Joe >=20 >=20 > -- > Joseph Champelli > University of Tennessee > FTSI >=20 --=20 Delbert L. Hall ZFX -Technical Coordinator for Classic Productions Phone: 714-585-7070 ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <111.51ceed10.304fa753 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 22:15:47 EDT Subject: RE: on a serious note & Hearing Impared students. In a message dated 9/6/2005 8:23:32 PM Central Daylight Time, mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com writes: <> That's funny... my mom is Swedish/German/8-other-things Protestant and she says the exact same thing! :) Joe - Ask your students for their input! They are old enough to understand what danger is and will appreciate being treated like the intelligent young people they are. Explain what the risks are - give some examples of runaway battons, things falling from the grid, etc. Explain that you want to teach them without killing them and that you'd like them to help create a plan to minimize their risks but still include them in everything THEY feel they can safely do. Deaf people are used to someone gently touching them on the shoulder or hand to get their attention. I'd suggest you create a signal touch (for example, a firm grip on the upper arm) which is an immediate, "stop what you are doing and come with me kind" of sign that you can use as an alternative to "heads", then teach it to everyone in the shop. May I also suggest that you learn to fingerspell? It's only 26 signs. Basic signs like please, thanks, stop, go, come, yes, no, left, right, up, down, listen, good, hello, sorry, and those kinds of things are always good to know too. I have a great book, "Signing in Fourteen Languages" by Claude O. Proctor ph.D. (ISBN 1-57912-099-7). I also recommend "The Joy of Signing", which I don't have handy for author or ISBN. They will appreciate your caring enough to make an effort. Kristi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:03:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Noises Off Artwork From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Revolving the Noises Off set should be pretty impressive in my case, as I am > building it on air bearings (which, as of today, *still* don't work :< so > we'll probably ham it up a bit. I've been thinking of choreographing it to > "Sprach Zarathustra" (theme from 2001: A Space Odyssey), along with some > appropriately dramatic lighting. Granted, Noises off is a farce, and not to be taken too seriously, but Also Sprach Zarathustra just doesn't seem to me like it "Fits" the show. Hamming it up to a point might be acceptable, but don't let the scene changes upstage and detract from the show itself! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000301c5b35a$d9cb6020$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Noises Off Artwork Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:18:43 -0700 > Hamming it up to a point might be acceptable, but don't let the scene > changes upstage and detract from the show itself! You wouldn't believe how many productions of this show I've seen that the scene changes WERE the best part of the show!!! (A lot of audience folk do enjoy sitting in the theatre, watching the change, if it's designed that way for 'a vista' change.) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000a01c5b35b$55475060$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" Subject: From Frank: Repost Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:22:10 -0700 From: > Thanks, Jon. In a week or so, I'll be back in England, and able to post my > own garbage! But I felt that this needed to be said. > > A thing which annoys me is the sheer speed at which the newsteams get in, > overflying the disaster sites as soon as is possible. Do they not realise > that > each chopper they use for news pictures is one less available for relief > effort? > And Jon adds.... Weeellll.... they're not exactly the same choppers, but I get your point. I have seen many a shot of reporters and cameramen doing actual aid and rescue work - even using their vehicles to shuttle trapped people. And I don't believe they were promotional stunts. Try suggesting that to the NBC cameraman who was being shot at while helping pull a woman out of a window. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 03:44:21 GMT Subject: Re: Hearing impaired students Message-Id: <20050906.204453.26528.306021 [at] webmail21.lax.untd.com> Dear Joseph, Yes, I have dealt with issue, only I was the one that had to learn to read lips when I was 7 years old. Forget the PC for a moment, and just face the person who is trying to read lips. This doesn't deal with all the issues, but it is a HUGE head start. Doing more can easily stigmatize a student, and by doing substantially more, you can end up worse than you started. Subtly is the key, IMHO. Based upon my personal experience, both before and after the passage of the ADA in 1990, please avoid foisting a reasonable accommodation on someone who has not indicated that they want it. To go further out on a limb, I think that the Cal State Univ Northridge mainstreaming deaf approach is far superior to the isolated approach in Gallaudet. /s/ Richard (323) 654-2700 TDD ___________________________ I know I'm surfing the edge of political correctness, but I was wondering if/how others have handled this kind of thing. Joseph Champelli ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001401c5b361$8db81be0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Hearing impaired students Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 21:06:42 -0700 To go further out on a limb, I think that the Cal State Univ Northridge mainstreaming deaf approach is far superior to the isolated approach in Gallaudet. Ooh, easy with that one, Richard... you know you're walking into a potential field of landmines with that one. :) (I have been deeply involved in Deaf/HOH theatre, theatre accessibility (shadow interpreting, audio description, etc) and Deaf culture for many years... as you know, there's a HUGE division in the Culture regarding Deaf Culture and Mainstreaming.) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <431E6DDA.1FCA387D [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 00:34:34 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Hearing impaired students References: Jon Ares wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > To go further out on a limb, I think that the Cal State Univ Northridge > mainstreaming deaf approach is far superior to the isolated approach in > Gallaudet. > > Ooh, easy with that one, Richard... you know you're walking into a potential > field of landmines with that one. :) > > (I have been deeply involved in Deaf/HOH theatre, theatre accessibility > (shadow interpreting, audio description, etc) and Deaf culture for many > years... as you know, there's a HUGE division in the Culture regarding Deaf > Culture and Mainstreaming.) Great. Another issue for a flame war. Hurrah. When we get tired of that, we can mention cochlear implants. :-) --Dale ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: Katrina - Live Entertainment Industry Resources List Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 00:13:06 -0600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bruce: I have tried this email and cannot access it. Dr. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Cooper Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:05 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Katrina - Live Entertainment Industry Resources List For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Folks: I've already received a few resources listed and have begun the process of getting FEMA involved, and have become a member of the National Emergency Resources Registry [and hey, if you feel like becoming a member and bypassing me, please do http://swern.gov ] However, I will remain as a contact point for folks who would rather not register themselves and as an aggregation point for smaller [though not less important] amounts of available resources. And folks, the list of things that is available for listing as resources is truly amazing. So if you're thinking of something, but figure it might not be needed, please send an email anyways. You never know. And BTW, I am going to try to actually get FEMA person on the phone, but given the situation, that may not happen, and I'll understand. Also, any of you who are on other lists or forums that I'm not [and that's a lot of them] could you please forward some of this info to them? I don't care if you strip off the url at the bottom, or my name, just please pass on the info and the email address. katrina-relief [at] ledworklights.com is the address to send to. Bless all of you. [and forgive the posting of the entire last message. It's there for people who may have missed it first time round] :Bruce Cooper 847-445-2668 > Guys and Dolls: > > It has been so good to read all the praise and good wishes that have come > from > this list. As well it has been stunning to read Mr. Finney's accounts of > his > efforts. This has inspired me: We can all at least get ready to help. > I've > taken a little time to set up an email address for what I am terming the > Hurricane Katrina Relief - Live Entertainment Industry Resources List. > It's > simply a way to compile in one place a list of resources we all might be able > to > do without. Have a genny sitting about you could spare? Maybe a large > tent? > Or miles and miles of communications cable from that project that fell > through? > Whatever it is, if it could help, list it. There is no contract, so if > you > decide you can't spare it, that is fine as well. I'm just trying to get our > resource list pooled, as I think that might help. > > If you are interested, please email Katrina-Relief [at] ledworklights.com with > the > following info: > > * Type of resource > * Date of Availability > * Usable term [how long can you spare it/ how long will it last] > * Your Name > * Address > * Phone Number where you can be contacted. > > > If you have multiple resources, please list the top three items separately > for > each. These will be maintained in an offline document, so rest assured, your > info is safe from online predators [Though most of you attach the requested > info > to the end of emails, but none the less]. > > > I'm currently trying to get in contact with the FEMA people to let them know > of > this list, and will update if/when that happens. > > Thanks, and bless you all. This truly is a wonderful profession. > > :Bruce Cooper > -- > LED Worklight Systems > 847-445-2668 > http://ledworklights.com > > > > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #512 *****************************