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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #516

 1. Re: dwg viewer
    by Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
 2. Re: half hats
    by "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
 3. Re: half hats
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
 4. Re: dwg viewer
    by "rufus" <rufus [at] ldassistant.com>
 5. Re: dwg viewer
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
 6. counterweight rigging operation
    by <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org>
 7. Re: dwg viewer
    by Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
 8. Re: dwg viewer
    by "rufus" <rufus [at] ldassistant.com>
 9. Re: Angel Wings needed
    by Tom Grabowski <tomgrab [at] utpa.edu>
10. Guidelines for chain railings
    by "Fitch, Tracy" <tfitch [at] email.uncc.edu>
11. Re: counterweight rigging operation
    by seanrmc [at] earthlink.net
12. Glen Dunzweiler
    by John McKernon <stagecraft2005 [at] mckernon.com>

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Message-ID: <b7318c4805091005564cb7d2f8 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:56:18 -0400
From: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: delbert.hall [at] gmail.com
Subject: Re: dwg viewer
In-Reply-To: <list-24648217 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-24648155 [at] prxy.net> <list-24648217 [at] prxy.net>

You might want to look at ProgeCAD DWG Viewer (www.progesoft.com).  It
allows you to not only view the file, but to also take measurements.
Opens .dwg, .dfx, .dwf, and .dwt files.  Works really well.  Note:
Even though it tells me that my examination period has expired, it
continues to work.

-Delbert



On 9/9/05, Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] richmondsounddesign.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>=20
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Laura McMeley wrote:
>=20
> > I've just recieved a dwg file that I can't import into my Vectorworks 9=
. Does
> > anyone have a favorite free DWG viewer?
>=20
> Check out eDrawings Viewer:
>=20
> http://www.edrawingsviewer.com/
>=20
> Enjoy!
> Charlie
>=20
> --
> + Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design - Skype: charlierichmond +
> + http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com "Performance for the Long Run" +
> + Show Control List: http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/sclist.html +
> + AudioBox List:     http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/ablist.html +
>   "Let distribution undo excess - And each man have enough"
>    - King Lear
>=20
>=20


--=20
Delbert L. Hall
ZFX -Technical Coordinator for Classic Productions
Phone: 714-585-7070

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Date:	Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:14:26 -0400
Subject: Re: half hats
From:	"C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
Message-ID: <BF486282.1D8D6%brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
In-Reply-To: <20050909122710.81818.qmail [at] web52210.mail.yahoo.com>

On 9/9/05 8:27 AM, "Paul Marsland" <paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
>>> For half hats I like to use a right triangle (sort
>> of
>>> the top hat symbol bisected diagonally).  It's
>>> generally different enough to not be mistaken as
>>> something else, and gives the
>>> 'sometimes-less-than-intuitive' electricians a
>> loose
>>> visual idea of the orientation I want.
>> 
>> That's what I'm using, but I just don't like the way
>> it looks.  If I =
>> could
>> pin down just what bothers me about it, I could fix
>> it, but it's just a =
>> sort
>> of general dissatisfaction with it.
> 
> I have taken that same triangle and put a fillet on
> the leading edge so you get something shaped like a
> sugar scoop without the handle.  Same benefits in the
> drawing, a bit more of a graceful image.  Funny the
> things that challenge your aesthetics, isn't it?

Sorry about my strange comment earlier, Jeff... I thought you were talking
about an actual half-hat, not an eyelash, which is what the above is talking
about...

Cris Dopher


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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: half hats
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:19:00 -0400
Message-ID: <001a01c5b612$99e893f0$6701a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-24652804 [at] prxy.net>


> Sorry about my strange comment earlier, Jeff.

That's OK, Cries; I'm used to it ;)

> .. I thought you 
> were talking about an actual half-hat, not an eyelash, which 
> is what the above is talking about...

I misspoke. An eyelash is what I meant.



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Message-Id: <200509101440.j8AEeGxa028686 [at] ns1.ldassistant.com>
From: "rufus" <rufus [at] ldassistant.com>
Cc: delbert.hall [at] gmail.com
Subject: RE: dwg viewer
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:40:05 -0500
In-Reply-To: <list-24652341 [at] prxy.net>

I like the viewer from Autodesk. 
You can check it out at
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=4358577 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Delbert
Hall
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:56 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: dwg viewer

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You might want to look at ProgeCAD DWG Viewer (www.progesoft.com).  It
allows you to not only view the file, but to also take measurements.
Opens .dwg, .dfx, .dwf, and .dwt files.  Works really well.  Note:
Even though it tells me that my examination period has expired, it
continues to work.

-Delbert



On 9/9/05, Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] richmondsounddesign.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Laura McMeley wrote:
> 
> > I've just recieved a dwg file that I can't import into my Vectorworks 9.
Does
> > anyone have a favorite free DWG viewer?
> 
> Check out eDrawings Viewer:
> 
> http://www.edrawingsviewer.com/
> 
> Enjoy!
> Charlie
> 
> --
> + Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design - Skype: charlierichmond +
> + http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com "Performance for the Long Run" +
> + Show Control List: http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/sclist.html +
> + AudioBox List:     http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/ablist.html +
>   "Let distribution undo excess - And each man have enough"
>    - King Lear
> 
> 


-- 
Delbert L. Hall
ZFX -Technical Coordinator for Classic Productions
Phone: 714-585-7070



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References: <list-24652924 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <6BE386C5-7DA1-4E00-BDF0-81B03C00FD51 [at] interstellar.com>
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: dwg viewer
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:48:45 -0700


On Sep 10, 2005, at 7:40 AM, rufus wrote:

> I like the viewer from Autodesk.
> You can check it out at
> http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=4358577

Is that still as slow as molasses in the Antarctic?  I haven't  
checked for an update lately, but we avoid using it due to having to  
get other things done that day.



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Message-ID: <000601c5b61f$dabda430$0500a8c0 [at] lpt>
From: <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org>
References: <list-24651264 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: counterweight rigging operation
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:53:55 -0500
Organization: Minnesota Ballet

<I'm sure that would be _better_ (than floor level), but I'd think you could 
be more selective than the whole rail.  Perhaps a few vanity size mirrors 
(with DS masking) by the linesets in question.  Often, only a few pipes are 
moved during a particular show.  Just place a few portables.>

The problem I see with that is that every fly balcony I've seen that is 
elevated is a very narrow walkway. My Nutcracker has 8 fly operators and 
it's hard to not walk over someone, much less try carrying a portable 
mirror. I think that the issue of reflections would worsen with a moving 
mirror. Not to mention the horrors if your grip slipped.

Second, having a mirror even on the stage level doesn't solve a problem with 
large cast shows where actors and dancers want to hang out in the wings to 
watch.
and that leads me to the third issue......if you put a mirror large enough 
like that you'll get a flock of actors and dancers wanting to check 
themselves, not a good thing to have them hanging out at the flys.

Ken Pogin
PSM / TM
Minnesota Ballet



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Message-ID: <b7318c4805091009228c27092 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:22:26 -0400
From: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: delbert.hall [at] gmail.com
Subject: Re: dwg viewer
In-Reply-To: <list-24653339 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-24652924 [at] prxy.net> <list-24653339 [at] prxy.net>

This Autodesk viewer only appears opens .DWF formatted file (not .DWG
or .DFX formatted files).

-Delbert

On 9/10/05, Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>=20
>=20
> On Sep 10, 2005, at 7:40 AM, rufus wrote:
>=20
> > I like the viewer from Autodesk.
> > You can check it out at
> > http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=3D123112&id=3D4358577
>=20
> Is that still as slow as molasses in the Antarctic?  I haven't
> checked for an update lately, but we avoid using it due to having to
> get other things done that day.
>=20
>=20
>=20


--=20
Delbert L. Hall
ZFX -Technical Coordinator for Classic Productions
Phone: 714-585-7070

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Message-Id: <200509101833.j8AIXUiK001383 [at] ns1.ldassistant.com>
From: "rufus" <rufus [at] ldassistant.com>
Cc: delbert.hall [at] gmail.com
Subject: RE: dwg viewer
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:33:17 -0500
In-Reply-To: <list-24653570 [at] prxy.net>

You are right, it only opens DWF now. 

Rufus Warren




-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Delbert
Hall
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 11:22 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: dwg viewer

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

This Autodesk viewer only appears opens .DWF formatted file (not .DWG
or .DFX formatted files).

-Delbert

On 9/10/05, Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> On Sep 10, 2005, at 7:40 AM, rufus wrote:
> 
> > I like the viewer from Autodesk.
> > You can check it out at
> > http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=4358577
> 
> Is that still as slow as molasses in the Antarctic?  I haven't
> checked for an update lately, but we avoid using it due to having to
> get other things done that day.
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Delbert L. Hall
ZFX -Technical Coordinator for Classic Productions
Phone: 714-585-7070



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From: Tom Grabowski <tomgrab [at] utpa.edu>
Subject: Re: Angel Wings needed
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:07:59 -0500
In-Reply-To: <list-24651264 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <20050910150800000.00000004936 [at] TGRABOWSKI>


Delbert  and Steve: Thanks for the suggestion of Loren's wings.  I saw them=
 at the Expo and they are nice but they 12' wide.  That is too big for what=
 we need.  (My whole stage is only 25' wide.)
Tom
> =

> Tom - Contact Loren Schreiber  at lschreib [at] mail.sdsu.edu  I =

> have used his articulating angel wings on several productions =

> of ANGLES IN AMERICA.
> =

> Delbert
> =

Snip
> Hi Tom,
> Loren Schreiber from San Diego exhibited a wonderful set of =

> such wings for the USITT Tech Expo in Toronto.  The article =

> is in the the Expo book.  He might even help you directly if =

> you ask nicely. :) Steve Rees,TD SUNY-Fredonia
> 


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Subject: Guidelines for chain railings
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:31:56 -0400
Message-ID: <A01ABA2A211C644596549C5FF91C50E404183C83 [at] EXEVS02.its.uncc.edu>
From: "Fitch, Tracy" <tfitch [at] email.uncc.edu>

I'm about to undertake a project using an industry standard scaffolding
roughly 14' high as a scenic unit.  The designer has requested a chain
railing.  I've been digging about for standards for strength,
installation, etc. for a railing like this.  Thus far my quest has led
me primarily to OSHA links and I've found no directly relevant
standards.  Does anyone have a good place to point me?

At the moment, I know I've got three questions (plus no doubt others
that I don't know yet):
1)  How far apart should the railing uprights be?
2)  Mandated or suggested max and min heights (remember it's a chain so
it will swag) for top and mid chain.  I have found that top rail height
should be between 36 to 44 inches from the walking platform.  Does that
mean I can set my uprights at 44 inches and not let the chain swag down
lower than 36?  Also, is there any reason the middle chain shouldn't
just split the difference between the upper and the deck?
3)  Any suggested or mandated strength requirements both for the chain
itself and the uprights/their attachment.  Right now I'm thinking 1/4"
grade 30 proof coil chain for the railing and 1-1/2" schedule 40 flanged
with bolts through the aluminum scaffold decks.=20

Suggestions -- comments?
--Tracy S. Fitch; TD, UNC Charlotte; LD, Everywhere Else

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Message-ID: <29172143.1126393332248.JavaMail.root [at] elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:02:12 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net
Reply-To: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net
Subject: Re: counterweight rigging operation

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.  Just like clip-lights are portable, mirrors could be portable.  I wasn't suggesting a crew member carry a mirror with them.  As I said in my post:

   >Often, only a few pipes are moved during a particular show.  Just place a few portables.

Just like you'd place a run light for a particular location backstage, you could place a mirror at each pipe that needs to move during that particular show--or perhaps only those you are most concerned about.  I would NOT suggest moving mirrors around backstage for any reason!

That said, I don't think the whole mirror thing is a good idea.

--Sean

Sean R. McCarthy
seanrmc [at] earthlink.net



-----Original Message-----
From: productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org

My Nutcracker has 8 fly operators and 
it's hard to not walk over someone, much less try carrying a portable 
mirror. I think that the issue of reflections would worsen with a moving 
mirror. Not to mention the horrors if your grip slipped.






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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:37:49 -0400
Subject: Glen Dunzweiler
From: John McKernon <stagecraft2005 [at] mckernon.com>
Message-ID: <BF492CDD.19776%stagecraft2005 [at] mckernon.com>

Sorry to bother the whole list with this, but Glen Dunzweiler emailed me a
couple of days ago with a question, and when I replied to him the email
bounced back saying he was "unknown".

He's the new resident LD at UC Riverside, perhaps someone on this list knows
how to reach him?

If you know, please email me privately - no need to clutter up the list

Thanks!

- John



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