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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 24722074; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 03:01:52 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #521 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 03:00:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, BEEN_TURNED_DOWN,SARE_MONEYTERMS autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #521 1. Re: intellectual property / ethics by "Paul Schreiner" 2. Re: intellectual property / ethics by Shelly A Ford 3. Re: intellectual property / ethics by Kevin Lee Allen 4. Re: intellectual property / ethics by Kevin Lee Allen 5. Re: intellectual property / ethics by "Paul Guncheon" 6. Defective halide lamp burns parents by "Steven Haworth" 7. Re: Defective halide lamp burns parents by Jerry Durand 8. Re: Defective halide lamp burns parents by "Jon Ares" 9. Re: Defective halide lamp burns parents by "Paul Sanow" 10. Phantom in Atlanta by CB 11. Re: Pynelogs Cultural Centre - Jerry by "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" 12. Rock Star: INXS by CB 13. Re: Pynelogs Cultural Centre - Jerry by Jerry Durand 14. Re: Rock Star: Inxs by CB 15. Re: Rock Star: INXS by Jerry Durand 16. Re: Rock Star: INXS by "Paul Schreiner" 17. Re: intellectual property / ethics by CB 18. Latex paint storage by Bob Frame 19. Re: intellectual property / ethics by CB 20. Re: intellectual property / ethics by Bill Sapsis 21. Intermod Calculator by CB 22. Re: Intermod Calculator by "Paul Schreiner" 23. Re: Latex paint storage by "Davis, Thomas J" 24. Vending Machine by Greg Bierly 25. Re: Vending Machine by "LES LIND" 26. Re: intellectual property / ethics (Mom brags) by MissWisc [at] aol.com 27. Re: Vending Machine by "Frank E. Merrill" 28. Re: Latex paint storage by MissWisc [at] aol.com 29. Re: Latex paint storage by "Paul Schreiner" 30. Selecon 7" Fresnels by "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" 31. Re: intellectual property / ethics by Stuart Wheaton 32. Re: intellectual property / ethics by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 33. Re: Latex paint storage by "Stephen E. Rees" 34. PLASA by "Tony Deeming" 35. Re: Headphone Use May Worsen Hearing Loss by "Tony Deeming" 36. Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) by Paul Sullivan 37. Re: PLASA by Bill Sapsis 38. Re: Latex paint storage by MissWisc [at] aol.com 39. Re: PLASA by "Tony Deeming" 40. Re: Singin' In The Rain by "Charles J Korecki" 41. Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 42. Re: intellectual property / ethics (Mom brags) by "Don Taco" 43. Re: intellectual property / ethics (Mom brags) by MissWisc [at] aol.com 44. Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) by Bruce Purdy 45. Re: Latex paint storage by Dale Farmer 46. Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) by John McKernon 47. Katrina Relief - LEI Resources Update by Bruce Cooper 48. Re: Vending Machine by "Matthew Breton" 49. Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) by Andy Ciddor 50. Re: Intermod Calculator by Mat Goebel 51. Liability by MJ matsushita *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: intellectual property / ethics Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:02:33 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C94F [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Nobody will be surprised that I find both the ethics and=20 > legality of Bill's suggestion to be exemplary. This is how to=20 > retain customers. /s/ Richard >=20 > Barney.....You tell the client what happened and ask them if=20 > they want to buy the bad one from you at a reduced price.=20 > When they say no, ask them if you can keep it. If they say=20 > yes, you're good to go. If they say no, you now own a lovely=20 > wall decoration for your warehouse. Zat help? Maybe a little? Bill S. I'd add one little bit to the line "When they say no, ask them if you can keep it." "...and use it for rental and/or display purposes." Some people wouldn't mind letting you keep it as a wall hanging, but might get their noses out of joint if you were making money off it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:09:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Shelly A Ford Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics Message-id: <1421266.1126786195005.JavaMail.sford4 [at] aug.edu> Seems like Sapsis Rigging has a new attractive drop cloth in their inventory. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:57:51 -0400 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics In-reply-to: Message-id: <7F323284-89B0-4724-80F3-A5821F569E06 [at] klad.com> References:

Fly SAS, if not for the service, the (really) great coffee, at least =20 for the black leather gloves worn but the Scandinavian stewardesses! On Sep 14, 2005, at 8:43 PM, Jon Ares wrote: > I'm all for it! You think Delta or Northwest would cut us a =20 > deal? :) When an airline is in Bankruptcy, is it a good time to =20 > start international flights? > ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com =F0 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:00:04 -0400 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics In-reply-to: Message-id: <11C9EB27-834A-4ECD-87BC-BE5EA67D361F [at] klad.com> References:

These arrived in my mailbox this morning. How timely... The Top 5 Least Popular Philosophical Questions 5> If a monk, living in a monastery, takes a vow of silence, then talks in his sleep, has he broken his vow of silence? If so, who is going to tell on him? 4> If a man speaks in a forest and there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong? 3> If a thing of beauty is a joy forever, why does ugly seem to last so much longer? 2> How many angels can writhe in tortured agony skewered on the pointy end of a pin? and TopFive.com's Number 1 Least Popular Philosophical Question... 1> If Mike Tyson bites off Jesus' ear in a fight, is it a foul or a sacrament? On Sep 14, 2005, at 7:12 PM, Bill Sapsis wrote: > The way I look at it, the image belongs to his client. Doesn't =20 > matter where > the client got it. The client may have some issues with it's =20 > originality or > not, but Barney is simply a vendor doing the job asked of him with the > materials supplied. > ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com =F0 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:13:23 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics Message-id: <03f301c5b9f7$40c59b40$c6354104 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: <> Never mind that bloody thumbprint... Ever been turned down by a copy center when requesting they copy, say, a photograph that may have been done by a professional photographer or some other copyrighted material? Although the way the original question was posed, it was assumed that the image copyright did belong to the client (the copyright does not belong to the image itself, I think). Laters, Paul "I have plenty of do's but no don'ts," Tom said dauntlessly. ------------------------------ Subject: Defective halide lamp burns parents Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:32:26 -0500 Message-ID: <5D5187063B6B8B46A99E8C0D36E0EB097B5C13 [at] danube.river.idm.com> From: "Steven Haworth" Did anyone else see this on CNN? http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/14/bulb.burns.ap/index.html I guess I never realized a defective lamp could burn people like this. - Steven (sjh [at] idm.com) --------------------------- http://www.stagelights.info ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050915064359.029caf00 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:44:58 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Defective halide lamp burns parents In-Reply-To: References: At 06:32 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote: >Did anyone else see this on CNN? >http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/14/bulb.burns.ap/index.html > > >I guess I never realized a defective lamp could burn people like this. There's supposed to be an oxygen-sensitive fuse in there so if the outer shell breaks, the light goes out after a short while. -- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000d01c5ba09$9a537580$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Defective halide lamp burns parents Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:24:45 -0700 > Did anyone else see this on CNN? > http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/14/bulb.burns.ap/index.html > The same thing happened to a bunch of staff, students, and parents at a high school in Lake Oswego, Oregon last year.... busted shield on the fixture. Unfortunately, it had been broken for nearly a week, as I recall, but it was during a 'back to school night' or some such that many adults were burned. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Defective halide lamp burns parents Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:46:20 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Paul Sanow" > Did anyone else see this on CNN? > http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/14/bulb.burns.ap/index.html Very interesting. I can't say that I've ever seen this in person. Is = it obvious when a lamp fails in this manner? Could a knowledgeable = person recognized this? Paul *********************************************************** Paul Sanow psanow [at] vls.com Technical Sales www.vincentlighting.com Vincent Lighting Systems 1420 Jamike Ln. #2 Erlanger, KY 41018 (859) 525-2000 x211 FAX (859) 525-2050 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050915093105.00b0b068 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:31:05 From: CB Subject: Phantom in Atlanta >Is anyone on the list working the Phantom of the Opera in Atlanta? I >am going this weekend and would love to get a behind the scenes tour >if possible. I wish I could remember the name of the ASM that toured my date backstage. Tell her and the sound crew that I said 'Hey'. They seemed fairly eager to do the tour, as I had seen most of it and she really just wanted to see a few of the costumes. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <297C9E3B63B2D3119C8100508B5ED28F160201BB [at] exchange2.ubc.ca> From: "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" Subject: RE: Pynelogs Cultural Centre - Jerry Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:32:56 -0700 Jerry, Radium is about half way between Vancouver BC and Calgary AB (or 6 hours from either city) on the Trans Canada hwy. Tiny town (smaller than Banff, without the tourists) Considering the lack of a) Canadians and b) British Columbians on the list, I really REAAAALLLLLY doubt that you'll find anyone there. I just past by it this summer coming back from Calgary, so I'm out. There might be few wanting to join you for a lovely drive through the Rockies. Won't have any snow yet (80% sure of that). Beautiful area. Enjoy the fall colours. Enjoy the $1.20/litre fuel cost ($40 Cdn for a typical 4-door car. $100 for a large pickup or SUV) Is this holiday or work? What are you installing (or is that a rude question?) Andrew M. Riter Head Lighting Technician Chan Centre > From: Jerry Durand > Subject: Pynelogs Cultural Centre > > The end of this month I'll be in Radium Hot Springs, BC and see > there's a live theatre there. Anyone on the list work > Jerry Durand ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050915093948.00b0b068 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:39:48 From: CB Subject: Rock Star: INXS > At the end of = >his set, contestant "JD" lobbed his (~$700.00) Shure U2/58 microphone = >into the crowd. What about the mic? I hate the new 'gangsta' comedians that are starting the 'hipness' of dropping the mic when thier set is over. Mic abuse is becoming rampant in this country, and it belies an underlying problem. Tech's are *not* training their talent well enough. If we simply confronted these people when they did this and asked them what had happened that prompted the destruction of someone else's property, we might get them to understand. OTOH, you were watching 'Rock Star', and the only thing that upset you was the mic getting tossed? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050915094355.029833d8 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:45:39 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Pynelogs Cultural Centre - Jerry In-Reply-To: References: At 09:32 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote: >Beautiful area. Enjoy the fall colours. Enjoy the $1.20/litre fuel >cost ($40 Cdn for a typical 4-door car. $100 for a large pickup or SUV) Glad we have an efficient car. >Is this holiday or work? What are you installing (or is that a rude >question?) This happens to be a holiday, we decided to take one for a change. No shows, no installs, no building pyro. Not sure we'll know what to do. :) -- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050915094822.00b0b068 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:48:22 From: CB Subject: Re: Rock Star: Inxs >But Comedy Central most definitely has the cash for new gear, unlike the >rest of us poor folk who cling to what we have and what we can afford :) And, when you hand a monkey a mic, you expect something bad might happen to it. You've already budgeted for the destruction of the mic, you've placed your least favorite mic in his hands, the one that sounds kinda funny (as you aren't really concerned about how this sounds) and kinda actually hope it gets destroyed so you have an excuse to replace the thing, finally. When you hand the mic to a singer or a comedian, you expect... oh, yeah... nevermind. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050915094618.029b2db0 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:48:06 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Rock Star: INXS In-Reply-To: References: At 02:39 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote: >What about the mic? I hate the new 'gangsta' comedians that are starting >the 'hipness' of dropping the mic when thier set is over. Mic abuse is >becoming rampant in this country, and it belies an underlying problem. >Tech's are *not* training their talent well enough. You mean you give talent a real mic? You've got to talk to the props people and have them make you a nice, indestructible, fake mic. :) "Faux-Mic, the brand preferred by rock stars the world over!" -- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Rock Star: INXS Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:54:00 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C956 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > You mean you give talent a real mic? You've got to talk to the props=20 > people and have them make you a nice, indestructible, fake mic. :) >=20 > "Faux-Mic, the brand preferred by rock stars the world over!" This thread (and the whole indestructibility of the SM57 thing) just = reminded me of that one scene from The Commitments, when the = bouncer/drummer (why is that always the clich=E9?) pounds the mic on his = forehead repeatedly during a sound check before announcing that it's = good quality equipment. I think (though I haven't seen the film in a while) that it's a 57 he's = using... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050915095555.00b0b068 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:55:55 From: CB Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics > A client comes to me with a digital file (maybe specially commissioned, > maybe not) to digitally print on a 30 x 30 muslin. The printer ships it > to me and it is printed on canvas, so I have them redo it. > So I have delivered the muslin version, and I have a canvas version on > my shelf. OTOH, if its going to get scrapped, I need to make a fairly large tent, and will need a source for cheap canvas. We could work a deal, and I'd put the pattern on the inside... ;> Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2FDDC3C2F5B5F4499C096779EF5493B902CE40A2 [at] EXCHANGE_NT.cayuga-cc.edu> From: Bob Frame Subject: Latex paint storage Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:07:48 -0400 Can anyone help me with NY State regs. We recently had an insurance inspection and the Loss Control Rep recommended that a "UL Listed Flammable Liquid Storage Cabinet be purchased for the storage of Paints". I did a google to try and find information regarding Storage of Latex paint and found nothing. Is Latex Paint flammable when it's liquid and needs the special storage cabinet? Can anyone point me towards a NY State or Fed reg that confirms or denies the need for said cabinet. I need something to reply to the VP's concern besides "in my opinion" Of course the same inspector doesn't like the fact that "excess wood" is stored in the shop...... Thanks Bob Frame ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050915100144.00b0b068 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:01:44 From: CB Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics >Have I mentioned today how wonderful "Billy Elliott" is? I say we rent out >the theatre, charter a few planes and take the whole list membership over to >see it. Typical management thinking. Bill, Bill, Bill. I say we charter one plane, and fly the cast and set and props over here, and we put together a buncha listers to take turns seeing/running the show. At the same time we could donate profits to the aforementioned charities. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:29:10 -0400 Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I humbly bow to a much superior idea. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile On 9/15/05 10:01 AM, "CB" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Typical management thinking. Bill, Bill, Bill. I say we charter one > plane, and fly the cast and set and props over here, and we put together a > buncha listers to take turns seeing/running the show. At the same time we > could donate profits to the aforementioned charities. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050915103543.00b0b068 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:35:43 From: CB Subject: Intermod Calculator It seems that I have had a hard drive failure, and one of the little things that I miss is a program that did intermodulation calculations for a coupla dozen wireless freqs at the same time, simply enter the freqs you're using on your wireless mics and com, and it tells (and shows) which are going to be problematic. I think that someone on this list originally directed me to the download. Charlie Richmond, maybe? Maybe it was the TSL, back when I subscribed, I don't remember. Anyone here know what the heck I'm talking about? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Intermod Calculator Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:45:06 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C958 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > It seems that I have had a hard drive failure, and one of the=20 > little things that I miss is a program that did=20 > intermodulation calculations for a coupla dozen wireless=20 > freqs at the same time, simply enter the freqs you're using=20 > on your wireless mics and com, and it tells (and shows) which=20 > are going to be problematic. I think that someone on this=20 > list originally directed me to the download. Charlie=20 > Richmond, maybe? Maybe it was the TSL, back when I=20 > subscribed, I don't remember. Anyone here know what the heck=20 > I'm talking about? I don't remember seeing a downloadable version of it, but Audio-Technica has an online calculator for just this sorta thing. You can check up to 30 frequencies at once with it. It's the bottom-most link at http://tinyurl.com/5f69s. HTH ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Latex paint storage Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:54:34 -0400 Message-ID: <3CF87682970858499CA56707FB1F092B0A924F [at] wscc-s-003000.westshore.edu> From: "Davis, Thomas J" Bob, This is not really an answer to your question about NY regulations, more just general commentary on the issue, so please feel free to skip right over it..... Disclaimers: 1) I am not specifically familiar with NY regulations and have never worked in NY. 2) What I say is based on my personal experiences, and should not be taken as legal opinion. Is every ounce of paint in your shop latex? The latex may not be flammable (but combustible under a legal definition? Not sure), but most of us do have some spray paint, stain, varnish, and a variety of flammable or combustible enamels, glues and what-nots around the shop. In my case, I have a flammable cabinet for the few flammables and combustibles that we do have in stock, and conventional storage cabinets for the latex and casein, and this seems (so far, anyway) to satisfy the various inspectors- in any case, mine is stored more safely than it is at the local paint store. I have found it a good idea to be around when the inspector comes through, so I can answer questions, or even open a can or 2. It is also a good idea to have a written policy that states specifically that each material will be stored in the proper manner. If you have a small flammable cabinet AND label your shelving NON-FLAMMABLE MATERIALS ONLY, this may prove satisfactory, provided you actually adhere to it. But talk to the inspector AND read through the small print in your insurance policies and state regulations if you can get hold of them. It may say, "All paints, finishes, glues and inks must be stored in a UL approved....", or some such wording, and make no distinction between latex and oil based paints. Another question is whether, in your jurisdiction, all paints may need to be in UL cabinets to assure proper venting of fumes. Caseins and some water based wood finishes, for example, contain ammonia or aromatic chemicals of one sort or another (I've always assumed this is to retard spoilage due to bacteria). So the primary concern on the part of the inspector may be to insure adequate venting of fumes. Do remember, too, that an insurance inspector's job is to save his company money by keeping you alive and your shop in one piece. In one place I worked, I complained about a worn out radial arm saw for a year without management giving me the time of day. Their insurance man came through, deemed it unsafe, and it was replaced within 24 hours. And no, I wasn't even on the premises when he did his inspection, he found it on his own. Can't help you with the wood. We have sprinklers here- and in most shops I've worked in, and it's never been an issue, other than the occasional pile of sawdust or cutoffs. =20 Do remember that your insurance policy is a contract. You may have obligations under that contract above and beyond adhering to state or federal regulations. Doing what they ask may reduce your premiums by more than the cost of the "improvements." Tom D -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bob Frame Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:08 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Latex paint storage For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Can anyone help me with NY State regs. We recently=20 had an insurance inspection and the Loss Control Rep recommended that a "UL Listed Flammable Liquid Storage=20 Cabinet be purchased for the storage of Paints". I did a=20 google to try and find information regarding Storage of Latex paint and found nothing. Is Latex Paint flammable when it's liquid and needs the special storage cabinet?=20 Can anyone point me towards a NY State or Fed reg that confirms or denies the need for said cabinet. I need something to reply to the VP's concern besides "in my opinion"=20 Of course the same inspector doesn't like the fact that=20 "excess wood" is stored in the shop...... Thanks Bob Frame =20 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <58061b5ffc111fb9f2b8367b9c1fbafc [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Vending Machine Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:34:48 -0400 OK I was off on my onstage handline counterweight system but I'll try another out on you. Came up with the idea for some of you stage supply vendors supplying a backstage vending machine for roadhouses. If a machine would take cash or credit/atm cards would those of you that tour consider buying expendables in such a manner if it were reasonably priced. I thought a well stocked machine with gloves, wrenches, multi-tools, gaff, spike, and glow tape, sharpies, batteries, maglights, replacement lamps for flashlights, littlelites, lanyards, and other sundries. Just curious if you think such an idea would work. Obviously the vendor would have a large logo on the front of the machine with their phone number and website listed. It would wind up being a large investment in the machine and the inventory but could possibly prove profitable in a larger roadhouse. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:07:33 -0400 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: Vending Machine Things getting a little tight over there Greg? ...supplementing income with vending machine service... hmmmm Les Lind, TD NHS Dramatics Northeastern High School Manchester, PA ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:10:21 EDT Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics (Mom brags) klad [at] klad.com writes: <> My 10 year old son asked his social studies teacher "How would the world be different if all the Popes and the US presidents for the last 225 years changed places?" The teacher replied "That's a question about religion and we can't talk about that in public school." I told my son to reminded the teacher that the Pope is also the political leader of the Vatican and is elected by a "college" just like the US president is. No response so far. Kristi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:14:26 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1688994410.20050915141426 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Re: Vending Machine In-Reply-To: References: Howdy ! Thursday, September 15, 2005, Greg Bierly wrote: > would those of you that tour consider buying expendables in such a > manner if it were reasonably priced? The Roscolux Chocolate will never move, but maybe I can move a lot of R33 in 7-1/2 x 7-1/2 squares. I'm suddenly filled with a gorilla roadie that REALLY wants a roll of tunnel tape and his MasterCard is maxed out. Not a pretty picture. Chortling into my bottle of Sprite over my silly reply to Greg's excellent idea, and going back to work.... Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.60 mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:16:47 EDT Subject: Re: Latex paint storage _framer [at] cayuga-cc.edu_ (mailto:framer [at] cayuga-cc.edu) writes: <> Get the cabinet. They are not that expensive (read a variety of previous list posts re: liability issues) and can be used for storage of any flammable/hazardous substances: paint, paint remover, hairspray, rubbing alcohol, spirit gum, etc. Get one that locks as that will help you control access to those substances too. Just like wearing a seat belt - good idea regardless of if it is a law or not. Kristi ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Latex paint storage Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:23:37 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C95D [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > < that a "UL=20 > Listed Flammable Liquid Storage Cabinet be purchased for the=20 > storage of Paints" >>=20 > =20 >=20 > Get the cabinet.=20 I recall for some reason (maybe too many paint fumes as a youngster?) someone indicating (not here) that if you store flammables in a flammables cabinet that ONLY flammables should be stored there. Can anyone give me an idea as to that particular notion's veracity? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <297C9E3B63B2D3119C8100508B5ED28F160201BD [at] exchange2.ubc.ca> From: "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" Subject: Selecon 7" Fresnels Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:31:11 -0700 Hi everyone: I've tested a bunch of fresnels to see which one I want to buy. I'm leaning to the Selecon 7" 1Kw. I'll post the results later. My only concerns with the lamp are: 1) the kill switch in the housing, that disables the power when open the unit: does it wear out, is it fragile, is it replacable, etc? 2) The gel frame holder. I little on the dinky side (compared to the nice beefy ones on the colourtran or ETC units. Have they failed anyone? Any one have any reasons NOT to purchase these? Thanks Andrew M. Riter Head Lighting Technician Chan Centre for the Performing Arts University of British Columbia 6265 Crescent Road Vancouver, BC V6T 1Z1 604-822-2372 604-822-1606 fax chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4329F547.6050003 [at] fuse.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:27:19 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics References:

In-Reply-To: Kevin Lee Allen wrote: > > Fly SAS, if not for the service, the (really) great coffee, at least > for the black leather gloves worn but the Scandinavian stewardesses! The best reason for SAS is the very yummy, super fresh (like still warm from the onboard ovens) breads and rolls they serve you! And their regional partner Air Botnia serves a full breakfast to all 30 people during a one hour flight! Besides, they bumped me to business class once! Stuart ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:14:23 GMT Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics Message-Id: <20050915.161502.997.445236 [at] webmail18.lax.untd.com> As to flights from the hinterlands (Germany) to the Netherlands (hub of SAS), I have found that KLM seems to match the SAS service on many routes, particularly when you compare their respective Scandinavian Stewardesses, but I still think that Lufthansa may have an edge in the food service arena when the flight originates in Deutschland. {and} "The trains [are not the only things that] run on time". /s/ Richard _______________________ Kevin Lee Allen wrote: > > Fly SAS, if not for the service, the (really) great coffee, at least > for the black leather gloves worn but the Scandinavian stewardesses! The best reason for SAS is the very yummy, super fresh (like still warm from the onboard ovens) breads and rolls they serve you! Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <432A0318.2070103 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:26:16 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Latex paint storage References: Hi Bob, I am surprised that your local Health and Environmental Safety Officer can't be of some help here. I was of the impression that all 60+ units in the SUNY system had one. Ours is really helpful. We like her alot. She buys us stuff that I would be hard pressed to provide with my S&E $$ or the production budget. ;) Anyway, when the NY state fire inspector (you might even know who he is) comes around periodically, we are reminded that flammable storage cabinets are only for the storage of flammables. We have been told specifically to remove water borne paints and finishes from the cabinet and place them in other (secured) storage. I had kept things like muriatic acid, degreaser, and other such common materials in that flammables cabinet as it was convenient, but was made to remove them. General rule as I understand it is that flammable storage is for flammables. Don't know if this is much help but check with your M&O or Facilities Planning folk. We mostly get bitched out for blocking the access to breaker panel with our rolling drawing table. Best, Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Fredonia, NY Bob Frame wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Can anyone help me with NY State regs. We recently > had an insurance inspection and the Loss Control Rep > recommended that a "UL Listed Flammable Liquid Storage > Cabinet be purchased for the storage of Paints". [snip] ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: PLASA Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:55:48 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Well, went to PLASA on Tuesday, (Couldn't find Unka Bill...) and saw loads of good stuff as per norm, but what DID surprise me was when I was standing talking steel-deck with the rep, the first stand we stopped at, I was approached by a guy who was NOT from Steel-deck but a theatre engineer/architect. Somehow he'd heard my name in the conversation and introduced himself as someone who'd been told that I was potentially in the market for a new theatre build project...... He didn't say who'd told him, but he appeared to be keen to talk to me, so hey - I talked. So, my question is if he wasn't just playing the field hoping to score a punter (ie me) and he really DID have my name, how did he get it??? I'm a little sceptical, I have to say, BUT who knows...? Anyone on this list mention such a thing to anyone else? He was a Brit, btw, and was trawling for attendees at a theatre engineering & architecture conference being held in London next June. Sounds like a guy worth knowing about though, if we ever do get to the stage where we start seriously looking at the new build possibilities..... Tony ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: RE: Headphone Use May Worsen Hearing Loss Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:01:03 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Headphone Use May Worsen Hearing Loss Sounds like another one of those health-scare reports, to be honest. Yes, using headphones at a loud volume can certainly be risky, but I'd suspect most who use them tend to keep the levels low enough to stay safe. I know I do. Most people I know prefer quality against volume. Ok, there will be those who want to blast at 'number 11' all the time, but those are the ones you probably can't help anyway!! > "So what if you gave them out at the door at the concert? Would > people wear them more?" Driscoll asks. "I think some would." > To that end, professional musicians have formed Hearing Education and > Awareness for Rockers (HEAR) to promote hearing protection. And > Meinke's committee is developing a teacher kit with a meter to show > dangerous levels of sound - something educators in Oregon also have > demonstrated with a Web-based program called Dangerous Decibels. > "In the future," Meinke says, "I hope people will wear ear plugs the > same as they wear their bike helmets or wear a seat belt." > --- I'd say the same proportion of people would use plugs as DO use bike helmets or belts. Not as many as you might think! 8-)) Tony ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050916001219.18630.qmail [at] web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:12:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Sullivan Subject: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) Greetings; I have an inquiry that I hope someone out there in the great vastness of Internet land can help me with. My wife has a massive collection of photos from Band camp and performances for my Daughters HS marching band. They are Labeled, in folders by date. I want to take all 2500 pictures and batch process process them to generate a Low res photo, A Med Res, and the Original. I know I've seen software that does this but can't locate it in any form of search wording I can come up with. Batches by folder is fine, I just don't want to do this one by one. And there is some money available to purchase, so freeware is not a requirement. Thanks for any input or recommendations. Paul H. Sullivan May the great gods of the Internet blow cool breezes across your overheated processors... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:24:04 -0400 Subject: Re: PLASA From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: The gentleman's name is Richard Brett. He is a consultant in the UK. How he got your name I do not know. Funny. I needed to talk with him about the conference he's putting together but never got the opportunity. BTW, if you were at Steel Deck, I was around the corner and down a bit on aisle E at the ESTA booth most of Tuesday. Sorry I missed you. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile On 9/15/05 7:55 PM, "Tony Deeming" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Well, went to PLASA on Tuesday, (Couldn't find Unka Bill...) and saw loads > of good stuff as per norm, but what DID surprise me was when I was standing > talking steel-deck with the rep, the first stand we stopped at, I was > approached by a guy who was NOT from Steel-deck but a theatre > engineer/architect. Somehow he'd heard my name in the conversation and > introduced himself as someone who'd been told that I was potentially in the > market for a new theatre build project...... > > He didn't say who'd told him, but he appeared to be keen to talk to me, so > hey - I talked. > > So, my question is if he wasn't just playing the field hoping to score a > punter (ie me) and he really DID have my name, how did he get it??? > > I'm a little sceptical, I have to say, BUT who knows...? > Anyone on this list mention such a thing to anyone else? > He was a Brit, btw, and was trawling for attendees at a theatre engineering > & architecture conference being held in London next June. > > Sounds like a guy worth knowing about though, if we ever do get to the stage > where we start seriously looking at the new build possibilities..... > > Tony > > ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <68.5de49b38.305b6b5e [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:27:10 EDT Subject: Re: Latex paint storage pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu quotes: <<> < Listed Flammable Liquid Storage Cabinet be purchased for the storage of Paints" (then I wrote:) Get the cabinet. (paul said:) I recall for some reason (maybe too many paint fumes as a youngster?) someone indicating (not here) that if you store flammables in a flammables cabinet that ONLY flammables should be stored there. Can anyone give me an idea as to that particular notion's veracity?>> I believe you are correct with the thought being that if there is a fire, the items in that cabinet are more easily extinguished by the firemen as they know that water won't put it out. Look at MSDS examples for some ideas on this. FYI - Each of the non-paint items I listed (hairspray, rubbing alcohol, etc.) are flammable and often used for hair/makeup for theatre. On the other hand, what we THINK is right isn't as important a what the AHJ says is right. Kristi ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: RE: PLASA Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:35:55 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: That's the very chap!! My bad we didn't get to meet - I had intended to 'publish' here the intention to go down and when, but missed it!! Maybe next time.... TD > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Bill > Sapsis > Sent: 16 September 2005 01:24 > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: PLASA > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > The gentleman's name is Richard Brett. He is a consultant in the UK. How > he got your name I do not know. Funny. I needed to talk with > him about the > conference he's putting together but never got the opportunity. > BTW, if you were at Steel Deck, I was around the corner and down a bit on > aisle E at the ESTA booth most of Tuesday. Sorry I missed you. > > Bill S. > www.sapsis-rigging.com > 800.727.7471 > 800.292.3851 fax > 267.278.4561 mobile > > > > > > > On 9/15/05 7:55 PM, "Tony Deeming" wrote: > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Well, went to PLASA on Tuesday, (Couldn't find Unka Bill...) > and saw loads > > of good stuff as per norm, but what DID surprise me was when I > was standing > > talking steel-deck with the rep, the first stand we stopped at, I was > > approached by a guy who was NOT from Steel-deck but a theatre > > engineer/architect. Somehow he'd heard my name in the conversation and > > introduced himself as someone who'd been told that I was > potentially in the > > market for a new theatre build project...... > > > > He didn't say who'd told him, but he appeared to be keen to > talk to me, so > > hey - I talked. > > > > So, my question is if he wasn't just playing the field hoping to score a > > punter (ie me) and he really DID have my name, how did he get it??? > > > > I'm a little sceptical, I have to say, BUT who knows...? > > Anyone on this list mention such a thing to anyone else? > > He was a Brit, btw, and was trawling for attendees at a theatre > engineering > > & architecture conference being held in London next June. > > > > Sounds like a guy worth knowing about though, if we ever do get > to the stage > > where we start seriously looking at the new build possibilities..... > > > > Tony > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Charles J Korecki" Subject: Re: Singin' In The Rain Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:37:17 -0400 Seems to me I read an article in TD&T within the past year about Singin' In the Rain. This particular production utilized moving (rolling) rain wagons. Kept the stage spill to a minimum. I am not sure if I still have the article around or not. You may try searching a USITT website? Maybe. This article ring any bells for anyone else? > > ><<...........Anyone have details on rain systems they have made/used? >Any suggestions would be great! >> > >Jeb, Charles Korecki ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: RE: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:45:54 -0400 In-reply-to: Message-Id: <20050916004559.CXJG26550.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> Paul, I presume you'll be scanning each image manually -- still a lot of work! You can create an Action in Photoshop that does everything you want. Once you've created the Action (it's a macro you record for later playback) you "run" it from the Automate -> Batch option in the File menu. You Action could include the scanning process and do all the processing right then and there. Or, you could do all the scanning first, then create an Action that processes everything in a folder and creates the other image versions you need. You might spent an hour or two (or more) creating the perfect Action, but then it's done and you proceed to use it 2500 times. I have Photoshop 6 and it does everything you need, and I'm pretty sure this functionality goes back to even earlier versions. Jim www.theatrewireless.com > I want to take all 2500 pictures and batch process process > them to generate a Low res photo, A Med Res, and the > Original. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014101c5ba5d$0fd0e380$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics (Mom brags) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:22:07 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: > > My 10 year old son asked his social studies teacher "How would the world > be > different if all the Popes and the US presidents for the last 225 years > changed places?" > > The teacher replied "That's a question about religion and we can't talk > about that in public school." > changed places? Does that mean metaphysically, as in those in Heaven go to Hell, and vice versa, or physically, as in a gigantic exhumation and redistribution process? One is certainly more 'religious' than the other. Though I'm not sure either would make the world noticeably different. ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <13e.1ba6f6c8.305b7d59 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:43:53 EDT Subject: Re: intellectual property / ethics (Mom brags) _taco [at] peak.org_ (mailto:taco [at] peak.org) writes: <> Popes ran the USA and the presidents ran the Vatican. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:08:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Paul wrote: > I want to take all 2500 pictures and batch process > process them to generate a Low res photo, A Med Res, > and the Original. I know I've seen software that does > this but can't locate it in any form of search wording > I can come up with. Jim replied: > You can create an Action in Photoshop that does everything you want. Once > you've created the Action (it's a macro you record for later playback) you > "run" it from the Automate -> Batch option in the File menu. > You might spent an hour or two (or more) creating the perfect Action, but > then it's done and you proceed to use it 2500 times. I add: I'm still on Photoshop 5.5 for Mac. Different versions have different features, but here's what works for me: Whilst Creating an action per Jim's suggestion is more flexible and may be a "Better" solution, my "Quick & dirty" approach saves a lot of macro writing: In Photoshop, find File / Automate / Web photo gallery. Select your source folder, a destination folder and the desired "Gallery image size & quality", then go ahead and start it. If you don't actually want the web gallery (Although it's a handy way of viewing them all), delete the "index.htm" page and the "Pages" and "Thumbnails" folders. What you are left with is a folder ("images") containing all your re-sized photos! I once used Version 7 (I think) for Windows, and it made an entirely different style of gallery - Frames based - but the same technique should work. Hope this helps! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <432A2DAB.E505E0B3 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:27:55 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Latex paint storage References: Bob Frame wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Can anyone help me with NY State regs. We recently > had an insurance inspection and the Loss Control Rep > recommended that a "UL Listed Flammable Liquid Storage > Cabinet be purchased for the storage of Paints". I did a > google to try and find information regarding Storage of > Latex paint and found nothing. Is Latex Paint flammable > when it's liquid and needs the special storage cabinet? > Can anyone point me towards a NY State or Fed reg that confirms > or denies the need for said cabinet. I need something to > reply to the VP's concern besides "in my opinion" > > Of course the same inspector doesn't like the fact that > "excess wood" is stored in the shop...... Check the MSDS for the paint. If it says it is flammable then it goes into the flammable cabinet. Don't store other stuff in your flammable cabinet, it isn't designed for it, and you may be unknowingly creating a bomb. Latex paints are water solvent mixes, so they are not really flammable liquids, but they will burn once the water is boiled off. I was visiting someone's home once, and noticed that he had a nice flammable liquids cabinet in his garage. He was also using the cabinet to store his pool chlorine powder and chemicals, and his industrial sized container of Drain-O. I suggested that it wouldn't take much of an impact of the cabinet from his kid who was getting a learner's permit to turn that into a nice firebomb. --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:27:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > I want to take all 2500 pictures and batch process > process them to generate a Low res photo, A Med Res, > and the Original. I know I've seen software that does > this but can't locate it in any form of search wording > I can come up with. If you're on a Mac, try Graphic Converter (from lemkesoft.com). It can do batch conversion processing, probably including resolution changes. It's shareware, so if it doesn't do what you need you're not out the $$. - John ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1126841941.432a3e5517359 [at] mail.opentransfer.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:39:01 -0500 From: Bruce Cooper Subject: Katrina Relief - LEI Resources Update Ladies and Gents: Forgive the interruption, but this list is a very effective way to reach the large number of people who've made Katrina-related posts. The LEI Resources page has been updated, and the reason I've brought it up is that it's now been split into sections, and I'm hoping those of you who have made offers for displaced students and such [or those who might be able to] will mail me the pertinent info and consent to my posting it there. Oh, and those of you who might be reading and are displaced, I hope you'll check in too [when you can], as the resources listed are for you. [plug] Check early, check often! http://ledworklights.com/LEI-Resources/MostNeeded.html Red buttons mean updates in the last 2 days ! [end plug] :Bruce Cooper -- 847-445-2668 http://ledworklights.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: RE: Vending Machine Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:15:21 -0400 >Came up with the idea for some of you stage supply vendors supplying a >backstage vending machine for roadhouses. It would definitely be tempting some of my friends' technical expertise in alternative means to property acquisition, that's for sure. "It's amazing - the GAMchecks keep running out!" -- Matt ======== _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20050916143006.02afde48 [at] pop3.kilowatt.com.au> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:52:15 +1000 From: Andy Ciddor Subject: Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) In-Reply-To: At 10:12 16.09.2005, Paul Sullivan wrote: >I want to take all 2500 pictures and batch process >process them to generate a Low res photo, A Med Res, >and the Original. I know I've seen software that does >this but can't locate it in any form of search wording >I can come up with. > >Batches by folder is fine, I just don't want to do >this one by one. And there is some money available to >purchase, so freeware is not a requirement. On the Wintel platform JASC Image Robot, will do the task without raising a sweat. I use it to add watermarks, resize images, compress image files and many other tasks on a regular basis. I've just been checking where you could download it from. Sadly, since Corel acquired JASC software the trial shareware download is no longer available from the usual places on the Web. If you would like to try it out, please drop me a line and I'll send you a copy of the 30 day trial version, although I'm not sure how you will be able to register it if you want use it past 30 days. Andy ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:12:55 -0700 From: Mat Goebel Reply-To: mgoebel [at] gmail.com Subject: Re: Intermod Calculator In-Reply-To: References: One of the top A1's in IA Local 16 had this put together. It's becoming pretty popular. http://home.pacbell.net/surfgrrl/rfintermod.html $26. All the money goes to the software developers. On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:35:43, CB wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > It seems that I have had a hard drive failure, and one of the little thin= gs > that I miss is a program that did intermodulation calculations for a coup= la > dozen wireless freqs at the same time, simply enter the freqs you're usin= g > on your wireless mics and com, and it tells (and shows) which are going t= o > be problematic. I think that someone on this list originally directed me > to the download. Charlie Richmond, maybe? Maybe it was the TSL, back wh= en > I subscribed, I don't remember. Anyone here know what the heck I'm talki= ng > about? --=20 Mat Goebel www.matgoebel.com Mobile: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <148db884050915225856b7d2e1 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:58:12 -1000 From: MJ matsushita Reply-To: chaoskai [at] gmail.com Subject: Liability SGkgbGlzdDogCiAKSSBhbHNvIHdvcmsgYXMgdGhlIHVub2ZmaWNpYWwgdGVjaG5pY2FsIGRpcmVj dG9yIGF0IGEgaGlnaCBzY2hvb2wuCihVbm9mZmljaWFsIGJlY2F1c2UgdGhlIERlcHQuIG9mIEVk dWNhdGlvbiBkb2Vzbid0IGhhdmUgYSB0ZWNobmljYWwKZGlyZWN0b3IgYXMgYSBqb2IgZGVzY3Jp cHRpb24sIHNvIHRlY2huaWNhbGx5IHdlIGRvbid0IGV4aXN0KSAgV2UgdXNlZAp0byBoYXZlIHRo ZSBzYW1lIHByb2JsZW0gb2Ygb3V0c2lkZSByZW50ZXJzIGNvbWluZyBpbnRvIHRoZSBzcGFjZQp3 aWxseSBuaWxseSB0b3RhbGx5IHVuc3VwZXJ2aXNlZC4gIFRoZSBjdXN0b2RpYW5zIHdvdWxkIGxp dGVyYWxseSBvcGVuCmEgZG9vciBhbmQgbGVhdmUsIHRoZXkgd291bGRuJ3QgdHVybiBvbiBhbnkg bGlnaHRzLCBoZWxwIHRoZSByZW50ZXJzCmluIGFueXdheSwgYW5kIGZvciB0aGUgbW9zdCBwYXJ0 IG9wZW5lZCB0aGUgZG9vciAyIHRvIDMgaG91cnMgYmVmb3JlCnRoZSByZW50ZXJzIHdlcmUgc3Vw cG9zZWQgdG8gYXJyaXZlIGFsbG93aW5nIGFueSB0b20gZGljayBvciBoYXJyeSB0bwpydW4gYW1v ayBpbiB0aGUgc3BhY2UuIEkgd2Fzbid0IHRvbyBoYXBweSBhYm91dCBhbnkgb2YgdGhpcyBidXQg d2FzCnRvbGQgdGhhdCB0aGVyZSB3YXNuJ3QgYW55dGhpbmcgdGhlIHNjaG9vbCBjb3VsZCBkbyBh Ym91dCBpdC4gIEFmdGVyIEkKZm91bmQgb3V0IHRoYXQgb25lIGdyb3VwIGZsZXcgYSBwZXJzb24g dXNpbmcgb3VyIGNvdW50ZXJ3ZWlnaHQgc3lzdGVtLAphbmQgYW5vdGhlciBncm91cCBoYWQgYSBm aXJlIGRhbmNlciBvbiBzdGFnZSB3aG8gZHJvcHBlZCBvbmUgb2YgaGlzCmZsYW1pbmcgcGlucyBh bmQgbGVmdCBhIHJlYWwgbmljZSBidXJuIG1hcmssIEkgZmluYWxseSBnb3QgdGhlCnByaW5jaXBh bCB0byB1bmRlcnN0YW5kIHRoZSBkYW5nZXJzIG9mIGxldHRpbmcgdGhpcyBoYXBwZW4uCiAKU2lu Y2UgdGhlbiwgdGhlIGZyb250IG9mZmljZSBhbmQgSSBoYXZlIHdvcmtlZCBvdXQgYW4gdW5vZmZp Y2lhbApwb2xpY3kgd2hlcmUgYW55IG91dHNpZGUgZ3JvdXAgaGFzIHRvIGhpcmUgbWUgdG8gYmUg dGhlIGhvdXNlCnRlY2huaWNpYW4sICBJIGdldCBwYWlkIGF0IHRoZSBlbmQgb2YgdGhlIHBlcmZv cm1hbmNlL3dvcmtzaG9wL2xlY3R1cmUKY29tcGxldGVseSBvdXRzaWRlIG9mIHRoZSByZW50YWwg YWdyZWVtZW50LiAgSSBoYXZlIGFib3V0IDUgdHJhaW5lZApwZW9wbGUgd2hvIEkgaGlyZSBvbiBk YXlzIEkgYW0gbm90IGF2YWlsYWJsZSwgb3IgaWYgdGhlIGpvYiByZXF1aXJlcwptb3JlIHRoYW4g anVzdCBtZSwgb3IgaWYgdGhleSBuZWVkIGEgc3BlY2lhbHR5IHRoYXQgb25lIG9mIG15IHBlb3Bs ZQpmaXRzIGJldHRlciB0aGVuIEkgZG8uIEkgYWxzbyBtYWRlIHN1cmUgdGhhdCBJIGFtIHNlY29u ZCBpbiB0aGUgbGluZQpmb3IgcmVudGFsIGFwcHJvdmFscywgYW5kIEkgYWxzbyB0YWtlIGNhcmUg b2YgYWxsIHRoZSBzaXRlIGluc3BlY3Rpb25zCnNvIEkgY2FuIGNhdGNoIGFueSBwcm9ibGVtcyBi ZWZvcmUgdGhleSBleGlzdC4gIElmIHRoZSByZW50ZXJzIGFyZSBhCnBhaW4gaW4gdGhlIGFzcywg dGhleSBnZXQgY2hhcmdlZCBtb3JlIGFuZCBJIHByb2JhYmx5IHdpbGwgcHV0IHRoZW0gb24KdGhl IGRvLW5vdC1hbGxvdy1iYWNrLWluLXRoZS1idWlsZGluZy1saXN0LiBJZiB0aGV5IGJlaGF2ZSB0 aGVtc2VsdmVzLAphbmQgaXQgdHVybnMgb3V0IHRvIGJlIGEgZHVjayBzb3VwIHNob3csIHdoZXJl IEkgc3BlbmQgbW9zdCBvZiBteSB0aW1lCnNpdHRpbmcgYmVoaW5kIHRoZSBsaWdodCBib2FyZCBy ZWFkaW5nIGEgYm9vaywgSSBjaGFyZ2UgdGhlbSB0aGUKbWluaW11bS4gIE91ciB0ZWNocyBkbyBz bWFsbCBraW5kIGxpZ2h0aW5nIGZvciB0aGVtLCBpZiB0aGV5IHdhbnQgYQpmdWxsIGJsb3duIGRl c2lnbiwgdGhlbiB3ZSBzaXQgYW5kIHRhbGsgbnVtYmVycy4gIEFueSBjaGFuZ2VzIG11c3QgYmUK cmVzdG9yZWQgYWZ0ZXIgdGhlIHNob3csIHRoZSBncm91cHMgbXVzdCBjbGVhbiB1cCBhZnRlciB0 aGVtc2VsdmVzCmV0Yy4KV2Ugc3RpbGwgaGF2ZSBvdXIgZGlmZmljdWx0aWVzLCB3aGVuIHRoZSBj aGFpbiBvZiBhcHByb3ZhbHMgaXNuJ3QKZm9sbG93ZWQsIG9yIEkgaGF2ZSB0byBjb252aW5jZSB0 aGUgcmVudGVyIHRoYXQgdGhleSByZWFsbHkgbmVlZCBtZSB0bwpiZSB0aGVyZTogYnV0IGZvciB0 aGUgbW9zdCBwYXJ0IGl0IHdvcmtzIG91dCB3ZWxsLgpUaGUgcmVudGVyIGdldHMgdGhlIGFzc2lz dGFuY2UgdGhleSBuZWVkLCBNb3N0IG9mIHRoZW0gYXJlIGp1c3QKZ3JhdGVmdWwgdG8ga25vdyB0 aGF0IHRoZSBtaW5pbWFsIGxpZ2h0aW5nIG5lZWRzIHRoZXkgaGF2ZSB3aWxsIGJlCnRha2VuIGNh cmUgb2YsIGFuZCB0aGVpciBxdWVzdGlvbnMgYWJvdXQgd2hhdCB0aGV5IGNhbiBhbmQgY2FuJ3Qg ZG8KYXJlIGNsZWFyZWQgdXAgZWFybHkuICBJIGhhdmUgdGhlIHBpZWNlIG9mIG1pbmQga25vd2lu ZyB0aGF0IEkgd29uJ3QKY29tZSBpbiB0aGUgbmV4dCBtb3JuaW5nIHRvIGZpbmQgYnJva2VuIHRv b2xzLCBibG9vZCBhbmQgYm9keSBwYXJ0cwphbGwgb3ZlciB0aGUgc3RhZ2UuIFVubGVzcyBJIGxl YXZlIHRoZW0gdGhlcmUgdGhlIG5pZ2h0IGJlZm9yZS4gSSBhbmQKbXkgdGVjaHMgYWxzbyBnZXQg YSBsaXR0bGUgZXh0cmEgY2hhbmdlIGR1cmluZyB0aGUgeWVhci4KV2UgYXJlIHN0aWxsIGhhbW1l cmluZyBvdXQgdGhlIHByb2NlZHVyZXMsIGJ1dCBpdCBoZWxwcyB3aGVuIHlvdSBjYW4KZ28gdG8g dGhlIHByaW5jaXBhbCB3aXRoIGEgZmV3IGNob2ljZSBhbG1vc3QgYWNjaWRlbnRzIGluIGhhbmQg YW5kCnRlbGwgdGhlbSBqdXN0IHdoYXQgY291bGQgaGF2ZSBoYXBwZW5lZCwgYW5kIHRoZXJlIHJl YWxseSBpcyBhbiBlYXN5CndheSB0byBtYWtlIHN1cmUgYWNjaWRlbnRzIGRvbid0IGhhcHBlbi4K IApNSgo= ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #521 *****************************