Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 24751627; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 03:01:12 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #524 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 03:00:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #524 1. Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) by "C. Dopher" 2. Re: Disney in New Orleans by "C. Dopher" 3. disney in New Orleans by b Ricie 4. Re: Stairwell on Stage by "Paul Guncheon" 5. Re: Disney in New Orleans by gregg hillmar 6. Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) by Bruce Purdy 7. Re: Disney in New Orleans by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 8. Re: Disney in New Orleans by "Jeff Mabray" 9. Re: What is it ..... by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 10. publicity and posters by "David R. Krajec" 11. stairs by "David R. Krajec" 12. Re: Stairwell on Stage by Pat Kight 13. Re: stairs by "Steve McBee" 14. Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) by "Daniel Hoffman" 15. Re: Stairwell on Stage by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 16. Flame retardant worked well by MissWisc [at] aol.com 17. stair rails by "David R. Krajec" 18. Styrofoam stage weights by Paul Marsland 19. Re: Disney in New Orleans by Kacey Meaker 20. Re: hazardous chemical (paint and dye) storage by Kacey Meaker *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:15:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5746150C-AB87-4078-ABF1-78EFC995BC0E [at] theprices.net> On 9/17/05 10:01 PM, "Noah Price" wrote: > > On Sep 15, 2005, at 5:12 PM, Paul Sullivan wrote: > >> ... My >> wife has a massive collection of photos from Band camp >> and performances for my Daughters HS marching band. >> They are Labeled, in folders by date. >> >> I want to take all 2500 pictures and batch process >> process them to generate a Low res photo, A Med Res, >> and the Original. ... I too have used the Photoshop gallery maker to automate this process and have even written my own presets for a cleaner, simpler gallery. There's also options displayed (at least for me) when I right-click and go to the "open with" menu, many of which I find useful for reducing filesize of multiple images quickly. See here: http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5863/picture16pb.jpg Maybe you have these tools as well? Cris Dopher, LD ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:35:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Disney in New Orleans From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <12d.64f6ac15.305df933 [at] aol.com> On 9/17/05 6:56 PM, "FrankWood95 [at] aol.com" wrote: I try to stay out of political threads, but I want to stick up for the people over here who USED to be in charge and who actually know what they're doing! > The questions that need to be asked are: > Why were not the relief teams in position and ready to roll as soon as it > was safe? To a large extent, they were. But they have to be invited into the state by the governor -- and he dragged his heels for days after the storm. > Why was not an evacuation programme in place to handle all those who had > not got out ahead of the storm? It was, and it was activated. But the mayor of NO and the police department failed to enforce the call for evacuation. Southern stubbornness is legendary. > Why was it not anticipated that the levees would be overtopped or > breached? It was. But the people in charge - the elected officials - did not heed the warnings of the meteorologists and the engineers. > I'm not in the business of apportioning blame. But contrast this with SE > France... Don't know anything about France. But I know I don't want to hear about your house in the South of France anymore, with its helical staircase, when all I can afford is three steps down into my basement apartment in Brooklyn. (Said with a winnk and nudge. Please, send pics. I'm curious). Cris Dopher ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050918134132.46561.qmail [at] web50601.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 06:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: b Ricie Subject: disney in New Orleans In-Reply-To: >>"exactly and he seemed washed out and clammy looking." Not to mention that he was wearing a shirt the exact same color as the background - a mistake every auditioning actor should know to avoid let alone experienced designers.<< And for the person with the sharp eye, that shirt He was wearing was miss-buttoned. Perhaps it was a statement on how disheveled the south is right now. An on purpose wardrobe malfunction to illustrate the organization of the effort. Brian Rice 508-685-0716 b_ricie [at] yahoo.com "Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the light." ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 04:23:21 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Stairwell on Stage Message-id: <04f901c5bc5c$86348850$c6354104 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: <<> If you plan to keep the stairs in stock and think you might be building > more in the future, making them all to standard rise (and to a lesser > degree, tread) dimensions will make it *much* easier to use them > as modules for future sets, too. Now there's a word I wasn't expecting... "modules". Since I have to play on my ignorance, could I get a definition of just how "modular" stairs can be?>> If the rise and the run of each step is the same on each stair unit, they can be said to be "modular". You can place them next to each other for a wider staircase or leg one up "one rise" for a longer one. I won't go into an extended discourse on how to build stairs on the list (unless more people want to know how I do it) but would be happy to do so privately. What I need to know is how tall the stairs need to be, how many steps you would like to have, and how long the stair unit can be. Generally, you'll have a step width (run) of 10" - 12" and a step height (rise) of 6" - 9". (I believe some once told me the magic number for the run + rise was around 18 - 20 but I wasn't paying attention.) I've built some steps that were well outside of these numbers but mostly for escape steps or unusual circumstances (you have to get an actor to a certain height and you only have so much room for the staircase). Laters, Paul "Let's blow up these paddies," Tom said derisively. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: gregg hillmar Subject: Re: Disney in New Orleans Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:24:29 -0400 On Sep 18, 2005, at 9:35 AM, C. Dopher wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > On 9/17/05 6:56 PM, "FrankWood95 [at] aol.com" wrote: > > I try to stay out of political threads, but I want to stick up for the > people over here who USED to be in charge and who actually know > what they're > doing! > > >> The questions that need to be asked are: >> Why were not the relief teams in position and ready to roll as >> soon as it >> was safe? >> > > To a large extent, they were. But they have to be invited into the > state by > the governor -- and he dragged his heels for days after the storm. I don't mean this to be political in any way, but... Actually I believe the governor is a "she" and as I heard the story, she "dragged her heels" because Bush insisted on all responders, including National Guard and local authorities, being under direct White House control- a rather severe violation of States Rights. She HAD TO confer with her legal authorities and others in the State government before committing such an extreme act. g. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:34:18 -0400 Subject: Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) From: Bruce Purdy Cc: jon [at] lagerquist.com (Jon Lagerquist) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Not on a single file basis. But if you want to insert "outdated" into > all of the files names the version 2 directory for a show, this is > the tool for you. > >> Is renaming files a problem in the Wintel world? Thanks for the clarification! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Disney in New Orleans Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:36:20 -0400 Message-ID: <003901c5bc5e$59119780$6701a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Actually I believe the governor is a "she" and as I heard the story, > she "dragged her heels" because Bush insisted on all responders, > including National Guard and local authorities, being under direct > White House control- a rather severe violation of States Rights. She > HAD TO confer with her legal authorities and others in the State > government before committing such an extreme act. She also declared a state of emergency before Bush did, and whatever the logjam was between the LA government and the Feds, that doesn't explain the delay in getting aid to the other states affected. I could be wrong about this, but I believe that the requirement that the state formally request aid relates to the Posse Comitatus act, which specifically addresses the use of federal troops to enforce law and order (or any other TV show, I guess). It certainly doesn't prohibit the use of the military to rescue people from their flooded houses. ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Mabray" Subject: RE: Disney in New Orleans Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:32:30 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I tend to stay out of these threads as well, but having just moved from NOLA after having lived there for 7 years, I have to say something. Some random thoughts i have - Anyone feel free to answer... I want to know what the timeline was for getting the troops in place to render aid during Hurricane Andrew? Was it the same? Faster? Slower? It takes time to get troops into place. You can't activate them and move them into position in a matter of hours. It does take days. You also can't move them into the most opportune positions cause they would be in the path of the storm. And not knowing exactly where the storm is going to go, you have to keep them out of the way. One of the reasons Bush wanted control was because the troops could not just go in and render aid, there were also going to have to establish law and order as well. Blanco has always been one of those, I don't have a plan, but I am going to appoint a blue ribbon commision to study the issue, type of politicians. Several times during her campaign that came out. Her dragging her feet is nothing new. It's a pattern. Have you ever seen a place descend in to such chaos so quickly? And how about this line of thought - We're here come resuce us - I am going to shoot at you to get your attention! I understand people being desperate - but lets not drive away your only hope of escape now.... If the troops/rescuers/relief workers were shot at/assaulted/attacked, in other areas(i.e. after Andrew, etc), would they have been as fast to get in there? Who told people to go to the Convention Center. It has never, ever been used as a shelter in the past. It is not designed for that purpose. Was it some official that told them to go there?, or with most of the communications out in the area, was it a rumor that got started and spread and ended up costing people their lives? I don't doubt in the least that the power was brought back up for Bush's visit in certian areas. Is this the first time it has happened? No. And it won't be the last either. Regardless of which party is in the White House. Look - I am not trying to stick up for anyone here. There were lots of mistakes made and there is plenty of blame to go around. I just get tired of people who disagree with Bush's politics laying all the blame at his feet, while others get a pass. Just some things that I am thinking about - Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Jeffrey E. Salzberg Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 9:36 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Disney in New Orleans For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > Actually I believe the governor is a "she" and as I heard the story, > she "dragged her heels" because Bush insisted on all responders, > including National Guard and local authorities, being under direct > White House control- a rather severe violation of States Rights. She > HAD TO confer with her legal authorities and others in the State > government before committing such an extreme act. She also declared a state of emergency before Bush did, and whatever the logjam was between the LA government and the Feds, that doesn't explain the delay in getting aid to the other states affected. I could be wrong about this, but I believe that the requirement that the state formally request aid relates to the Posse Comitatus act, which specifically addresses the use of federal troops to enforce law and order (or any other TV show, I guess). It certainly doesn't prohibit the use of the military to rescue people from their flooded houses. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <96.2feea2d9.305efb61 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 13:18:25 EDT Subject: Re: What is it ..... In a message dated 18/09/05 01:28:50 GMT Daylight Time, deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com writes: > ..... about some sound squeeks that makes them think that a concert MUST > have LOADS of bass thumping out??? I wish I knew. But it's been the same since the early sixties. I used to visit a casino in Cleethorpes, for the poker rather than for the music, and I could feel my chest cavity resonating. It just seems to be the fashion. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "David R. Krajec" Subject: publicity and posters Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:47:18 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: This is not a silly question. It is very practical. Many people forget that we are in show _business_. That said, it seems to me that three weeks before opening seems to optimum. However, it also seems that posters are having less of an impact. If we really want to know how are audiences find out about us, we need to do some real data gathering. Polling the audience - How did you hear about us? How did you hear about the production? Was that the most effective way to communicate to you? etc. If you know what your audience is watching, reading, listening to, you know where to put your money. A local classical radio station in my area has a demographics that is dominantly 40 and older female. These are people that like classical music, presumably support the arts, and have some time to go. Our neighborhoos is mostly middle upper to upper class, so they also have money. Guess where I want to sink our advertising dollars?! Without a survey of the audience, we're justing pissin' in the wind. Wasn't that a Dillon song? ;>) DK ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "David R. Krajec" Subject: stairs Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 13:04:13 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Welcome to the club, Eric! You're getting a lot of good advice from the list. One thing to note: railings! Your escape stairs need good solid railings. Your onstage stairs need good solid railings. (Does someone on the list have railing specifications? I know that it has support X pounds of lateral force. Solve for X. Please site source.) There have been accidents where railings were pointed out as part of the problem. Lawsuits have ensued. Protect yourself. We deal with an artistic field of illusion. But the illusion should not hurt us. Or allow us to hurt ourselves. Good luck. David K. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <432DC201.3030207 [at] peak.org> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:37:37 -0700 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Stairwell on Stage References:

In-Reply-To: Paul Guncheon wrote: > <<> If you plan to keep the stairs in stock and think you might be building > >>more in the future, making them all to standard rise (and to a lesser >>degree, tread) dimensions will make it *much* easier to use them >>as modules for future sets, too. > Now there's a word I wasn't expecting... "modules". Modules, stock units, whatever. > Since I have to play on my ignorance, could I get a definition of just how > "modular" stairs can be?>> > If the rise and the run of each step is the same on each stair unit, they > can be said to be "modular". You can place them next to each other for a > wider staircase or leg one up "one rise" for a longer one. Exactly. Our theater has a number of stair units in stock, ranging from a couple of steps to 5-6 steps. When a set requires, say, a staircase that goes up a few steps to a landing and then takes a right-hand turn, these can *theoretically* be used as modules. What makes that a pain in the butt in practice is when whe otherwise perfect stair units have different rise/tread ratios. Even when they look OK from the audience, they can be problematic for the actors who have to go up and down them. > I won't go into an extended discourse on how to build stairs on the list > (unless more people want to know how I do it) but would be happy to do so > privately. What I need to know is how tall the stairs need to be, how many > steps you would like to have, and how long the stair unit can be. > > Generally, you'll have a step width (run) of 10" - 12" and a step height > (rise) of 6" - 9". (I believe some once told me the magic number for the > run + rise was around 18 - 20 but I wasn't paying attention.) I've built > some steps that were well outside of these numbers but mostly for escape > steps or unusual circumstances (you have to get an actor to a certain height > and you only have so much room for the staircase). *nod* Escapes are often tricky (especially on a stage as small as ours), but it's still important, IMO, that the escape steps all have the same rise, for safety's sake. -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ From: "Steve McBee" Cc: drkrajec [at] stritch.edu Subject: RE: stairs Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:45:54 -0500 Message-ID: <001301c5bc89$989c9ff0$3df19904 [at] steves> In-Reply-To: Last I heard, it was 200 pounds in all directions and OSHA required. But that was about 8 years ago, it could have gone up. Take care, Steve McBee David K asked: (Does someone on the list have railing specifications? I know that it has support X pounds of lateral force. Solve for X. Please site source.) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <008401c5bc8e$1ac9d520$f1f00281 [at] danhoff> From: "Daniel Hoffman" References: Subject: Re: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:18:16 -0400 By far the most versatile image viewer/converter/processor/etc. that I've come across is Irfanview. I use it all the time - it's got some really neat features in the 'advanced' window, such as watermarking all images, making slideshows, etc., and the batch processing is top-notch. http://www.irfanview.com/ I have no connection with the company, just an avid user. Highlights - "IrfanView is a very fast, small, compact and innovative FREEWARE (for non-commercial use) graphic viewer for Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000/XP/2003. Many supported file formats (click here the list of formats) Multi language support Thumbnail/preview option Slideshow (save slideshow as EXE/SCR or burn it to CD) Show EXIF/IPTC/Comment text in Slideshow/Fullscreen etc. Support for Adobe Photoshop Filters Drag & drop support Fast directory view (moving through directory) Batch conversion (with image processing) Multipage TIF editing Email option Multimedia player Print option Change color depth Scan (batch scan) support Cut/crop IPTC editing Effects (Sharpen, Blur, Adobe 8BF, Filter Factory, Filters Unlimited, etc.) Capturing Extract icons from EXE/DLL/ICLs Lossless JPG rotation Many hotkeys Many command line options Many PlugIns Only one EXE-File, no DLLs, no Shareware messages like "I Agree" or "Evaluation expired" No registry changes without user action/permission! and many more" __ Daniel Hoffman (danhoff [at] danhoff.net) "Write your questions down on the back of $20 dollar bill and send them to me." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Sullivan" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: Digital Photo Question /HELP (off Topic) > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings; > I have an inquiry that I hope someone out there in the > great vastness of Internet land can help me with. My > wife has a massive collection of photos from Band camp > and performances for my Daughters HS marching band. > They are Labeled, in folders by date. > > I want to take all 2500 pictures and batch process > process them to generate a Low res photo, A Med Res, > and the Original. I know I've seen software that does > this but can't locate it in any form of search wording > I can come up with. > > Batches by folder is fine, I just don't want to do > this one by one. And there is some money available to > purchase, so freeware is not a requirement. > > > Thanks for any input or recommendations. > > Paul H. Sullivan > > May the great gods of the Internet blow cool breezes > across your overheated processors... > ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <201.a5e72c2.305f4121 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:16:01 EDT Subject: Re: Stairwell on Stage In a message dated 18/09/05 20:44:36 GMT Daylight Time, kightp [at] peak.org writes: > > Generally, you'll have a step width (run) of 10" - 12" and a step height > > (rise) of 6" - 9". (I believe some once told me the magic number for the > > run + rise was around 18 - 20 but I wasn't paying attention.) I've built > > some steps that were well outside of these numbers but mostly for escape > > steps or unusual circumstances (you have to get an actor to a certain > height > > and you only have so much room for the staircase). > > *nod* Escapes are often tricky (especially on a stage as small as ours), > but it's still important, IMO, that the escape steps all have the same > rise, for safety's sake. Regularity is all-important, both in the rise and in the tread. My stairs at home in London have a rise of 7" and a tread of 9 1/2". This is comfortable. Treads that are too narrow make descending difficult, as you may not have a big enough target for your foot. I have met stairs with 6" treads, and they are difficult to go down. You are liable to catch your heel on the step above. It is a help, if the decor allows, to put a white line at the edge of each step, particurlarly if the lighting is dim. Secure handrails are a must. They should withstand a full body weight suddenly applied in any direction. You can't do this with huge, wide, processional steps, but these usually have low risers (6"), and generous steps (12"). Access stairs are a different question. These are always needed in multi-level sets. Their appearance is often of no consequence: their security and safety are. We have a number of treads which can be fitted to scaffold tube, with an angle adjustment. These are very good for high level access, from backstage. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:44:43 EDT Subject: Flame retardant worked well _http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/news/archive/local_22616215.shtml_ (http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/news/archive/local_22616215.shtml) Good to know it works like it's supposed to sometimes. HS curtain fire. Kudos for it being flame retarded. Hey Doc Doom -- put this one in your file for when you're here next month!! Nothing like an example from a school 7 blocks away to drive the point home. Kristi ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "David R. Krajec" Subject: stair rails Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:26:42 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: OK - 200 pounds in any direction. How do we know what will sustain a 200 pound thrust in any direction? I have an idea of what I would use, but I have no idea if it is over/under built, and I have no means of testing. (I would guess that schedule 40 1 1/2" pipe would suffice is properly mounted, but that might be overkill. Or would it?) Are there any plans for assembling such? Thanks to all. David K. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050919011955.30542.qmail [at] web52207.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:19:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Marsland Subject: Styrofoam stage weights In-Reply-To: In one of our venues, we welded 3x3 angle across the vertical arbor rods to create a "false" bottom. Just decide how low you can safely reach to load weight, and weld the angles there. Pipe weight goes on the arbor below the angles, everything else goes on top. Should we need more, we could drop another hundred pounds or so below the angle. One caveat -- use one of the spreader plates as a gauge to properly space the arbor rods before you weld the angles on. But the blue foam is a great idea, too! Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:39:41 -0400 From: Kacey Meaker Reply-To: Kacey Meaker Subject: Re: Disney in New Orleans In-Reply-To: References:

The other problem related to this issue is that because of the frequency of hurricanes (especially recently), people become complacent and do not treat every new storm as a direct threat even if it is heading right towards you. I am from Houston and if a Category 5 hit Houston, the situation would be similar, as half of the city is below sea level. There just aren't enough roads to get everyone in the city out, even if everyone did have a means of transportation.=20 Like it or not everywhere we live poses a possible threat. That doesn't excuse the governments or other responsible groups from helping out, but it may explain why every storm does not get an extreme response. The one that does hit when people are unprepared ends up being the one that is remembered though. Just thoughts. K.C. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:46:23 -0400 From: Kacey Meaker Reply-To: Kacey Meaker Subject: Re: hazardous chemical (paint and dye) storage In-Reply-To: References: This is the balanced reaction for the mixture of bleach with ammonia. 2NaOCl + 2NH3 --> 2NaONH3 + Cl2. Basically chlorine gas (on the far right) is very chemically reactive and electronegative and steals electrons from the tissues of your throat and lung tissue. This causes cellular damage resulting in anything from a sore throat to death. This was used as a source of chemical warfare in WWI and WWII. NEVER MIX BLEACH WITH AMMONIA!!!! ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #524 *****************************