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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #530

 1. Strand Node Upgrades
    by "Jay S. Rozema" <rozemaj [at] muohio.edu>
 2. Re: Strand Node Upgrades
    by "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
 3. Re: tour transportation
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
 4. Re: Strand Node Upgrades
    by "Abby Downing" <aldowning [at] onlocationls.com>
 5. Re: sightlines and prices  rant
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 6. Fall Arrest Reel
    by Paul Marsland <paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com>
 7. Re: Welding on stage
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 8. Re: cheap seats
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 9. Re: Searching for ETCNet RVI 
    by Brian Aldous <brian [at] tany.com>
10. Re: sightlines and prices  rant
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
11. Re: Strand Node Upgrades
    by "John Gibilisco" <johngib [at] cox.net>
12. Re: Strand Node Upgrades
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
13. Wall Clocks for 1940's Radio Hour
    by "Mike Burnett" <mburnett [at] huntington.edu>
14. Re: Wall Clocks for 1940's Radio Hour
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
15. Re: Wall Clocks for 1940's Radio Hour
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
16. Re: cheap seats
    by "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
17. Re: Wall Clocks for 1940's Radio Hour
    by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>

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Message-Id: <p06020400bf5a2de25289 [at] [134.53.196.171]>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 08:36:23 -0400
From: "Jay S. Rozema" <rozemaj [at] muohio.edu>
Subject: Strand Node Upgrades

I got this handy dandy software for my computer that will let me view 
my console, and maybe even control it. The problem is I need to 
upgrade the software on the console. (Strand 520i) So for now, this 
handy dandy software is just a nice memory stick that I can hang 
around my neck. I would like to be able to use this software now that 
I have it.

Has anyone upgraded the software on a Strand Node? I'm trying to 
upgrade the software on the network and I'm not sure what is going on 
with the Node. I can't even get to any kind of command line. I don't 
know what I'm doing at this point.

The tech support person that I've used in the past is now a part time 
employee, so the best I can do is leave a message and hope he 
actually gets it. He doesn't even have voice mail. I'm not even sure 
what days he works. (I think Vincent lighting has screwed up on this 
one. Tech support should never be part time. We aren't.)

Help! Anyone from Vincent Lighting on the list? Anyone in the 
Cincinnati area that can help?

Thanks,
-- 
Jay S. Rozema
Lighting and Sound Designer
Miami University
513.529.7333
www.users.muohio.edu/rozemaj

"There is no normal life that is free of pain.
It's the very wrestling with our problems
that can be the impetus for our growth."
- Mr. Rogers

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From: "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: Strand Node Upgrades
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:44:53 +0100
Message-ID: <ODEMKLAMIBKNHPJLNKDPCEALDCAA.deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24808973 [at] prxy.net>

Why not try dropping them a line via the Strand web site?
If it's only telephone/e-mail support, you may do better talking to the UK
people first - always found them first rate to date.

TD


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Jay S.
> Rozema
> Sent: 24 September 2005 13:36
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Strand Node Upgrades
>
>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I got this handy dandy software for my computer that will let me view
> my console, and maybe even control it. The problem is I need to
> upgrade the software on the console. (Strand 520i) So for now, this
> handy dandy software is just a nice memory stick that I can hang
> around my neck. I would like to be able to use this software now that
> I have it.
>
> Has anyone upgraded the software on a Strand Node? I'm trying to
> upgrade the software on the network and I'm not sure what is going on
> with the Node. I can't even get to any kind of command line. I don't
> know what I'm doing at this point.
>
> The tech support person that I've used in the past is now a part time
> employee, so the best I can do is leave a message and hope he
> actually gets it. He doesn't even have voice mail. I'm not even sure
> what days he works. (I think Vincent lighting has screwed up on this
> one. Tech support should never be part time. We aren't.)
>
> Help! Anyone from Vincent Lighting on the list? Anyone in the
> Cincinnati area that can help?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Jay S. Rozema
> Lighting and Sound Designer
> Miami University
> 513.529.7333
> www.users.muohio.edu/rozemaj
>
> "There is no normal life that is free of pain.
> It's the very wrestling with our problems
> that can be the impetus for our growth."
> - Mr. Rogers
>



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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 08:55:51 -0400
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Organization: The  fuzz in the back of the fridge. 
Subject: Re: tour transportation
References: <list-24805808 [at] prxy.net>



"ladesigners [at] juno.com" wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> The Navy mil-spec all-terrain forklifts are unavailable. I am old enough to remember early forklift failure during a short-lived attempt to use a supposedly all-terrain forklift to set up equipment  in a now famous meadow outside a New York small town in 1969 before the arrival of at least 500,000 guests who couldn't see the forklift.
> /s/ Richard

    Well, given the variable skill level of the operator, the potential muddiness of
a site, and that a forklift is a mechanical device, failures of many sorts are possible.

    --Dale



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Subject: RE: Strand Node Upgrades
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 09:29:35 -0400
Message-ID: <7AE59BA9B8D15D4787EB1C7A2DB6DFBA30DFAB [at] jekyll-sbs.ollsi.local>
From: "Abby Downing" <aldowning [at] onlocationls.com>


Jay,

I used to work for Vincent many moons ago, and now work for another
lighting company in the same area- so I'm speaking with some (but not a
lot of) firsthand knowledge.  Matt Klassmeier used to be their Strand
service person in the Cincinnati area but has recently left, last I
heard. =20

I suggest you call Jason Potts in their Cleveland office- if you've not
had luck in the Cincinnati office- or call Strand directly.  I'm sure
they'll all do their best to assist you any way they can in solving your
problem. =20

VLS link to contact information and office numbers:
http://www.vincentlighting.com/?p=3Doffices

Strand info:
www.strandlight.com

Los Angeles =20
 6603 Darin Way=20
Cypress, CA 90630=20
(800) 478-7263=20
Fax (714) 899-0042
=20

I have very little Strand experience/knowledge, so unfortunately that's
the best I can do to assist you at this point.

Good luck, and if there's anything else I CAN do, please drop me a line.

Kind Regards,
Abby Downing

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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 04:22:42 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: sightlines and prices  rant
Message-id: <002a01c5c113$6d582600$133d4104 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p>
References: <list-24798573 [at] prxy.net>

<<Paul wrote:

When I design, I don't design for the "cheap seats".  >>

<<I'm in the flames with him.  I design for the worst seat in the house.>>

Actually you're not.  I do not design for the worst seat, I design for the
best seat.  I think it is far too limiting to my design process.  In one
proscenium theatre in which I worked quite a bit, the area seen by every
seat in the house consisted of a triangle 42 feet wide (proscenium width)
with and apex 12 feet upstage.

Laters,

Paul

"I think someone electrified the corridor," Tom said haltingly.



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Message-ID: <20050924153528.75617.qmail [at] web52208.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 08:35:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Marsland <paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Fall Arrest Reel
In-Reply-To: <list-24808348 [at] prxy.net>

> Hello All,
> 
> I have an odd question.
> I am changing the fall arrest system in one of our
theatres and will
> have a 100 foot cable reel that I will no longer
have a use for.
> My question is what on earth can I do with it?  I
know I certainly
> wouldn't buy used fall arrest gear off, say, eBay,
if at all.
> There is even the possibility that the University
wouldn't allow me
> to sell it.  Anyone come across this problem?
> 
> ....Ron
> ----
> Ron Cargile
> ME, Univ of CA, Irvine
> 

Perhaps you can re-string the reel with 25' or so of
14/3 or 16/3 SJO cable and use it for feeding
practicals on moving scenery.  Disable the locking
mechanism and it will feed in and out like a champ
when the scenery travels.  I have adapted commercial
cable reels in this manner, but never looked at doing
this with a fall arrest reel.

Paul

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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 05:37:27 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Welding on stage
Message-id: <004501c5c11d$deab2e60$133d4104 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p>
References: <list-24808348 [at] prxy.net>

Small sparks and light can be generated by the "sparker" used to light
acetylene torches.  Used with new flints, they can be quite bright... maybe
make your own device using replacement flints for these units.

Laters,

Paul

"Someone removed all the twos from this deck," Tom deduced.



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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 05:47:37 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: cheap seats
Message-id: <004901c5c11f$4a1ba5c0$133d4104 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p>
References: <list-24808348 [at] prxy.net>

<<Well, why don't you do what I did, and go to a terrific play with
marvellous actors, and pay fifty bucks to sit somewhere bad which the
designer has decided isn't important, and where you can't see the actors
in the climactic scenes. Then see how you feel.>>

I would feel cheated if the management didn't make it clear that I had an
obstructed seat.  I would feel cheated if all the tickets were the same
price.    I would probably think it was a poor set design but, more to the
point, bad direction.

I still wouldn't design for the cheap seats.  As I pointed out, climactic
portions of the play must be viewed by all, but there are some seats in most
theatres that cannot see everything... no matter what.

Laters,

Paul

"Where can I find a copper figure of Lincoln?" Tom asked innocently.



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In-Reply-To: <list-24808348 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-24808348 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <096A3B12-2D19-11DA-9A74-000A9592AE20 [at] tany.com>
Cc: aldowning [at] onlocationls.com
From: Brian Aldous <brian [at] tany.com>
Subject: Re:  Searching for ETCNet RVI 
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:34:11 -0400

If they just need it so that they can set up a remote monitor for 
designer or stage manager use, you might suggest a powered video signal 
splitter & a long video cable.  I've used this in a variety of theatres 
up to 200' from the board without trouble.  Total cost should be around 
$80-100.
BA

Brian Aldous
Lighting Design

brian [at] tany.com
On Sep 24, 2005, at 6:01 AM, Stagecraft wrote:

>  Searching for ETCNet RVI


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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <c0.31a0438a.3066e2ed [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:12:13 EDT
Subject: Re: sightlines and prices  rant

In a message dated 24/09/05 15:23:51 GMT Daylight Time, 
paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net writes:

> Actually you're not.  I do not design for the worst seat, I design for the
>  best seat.  I think it is far too limiting to my design process.  In one
>  proscenium theatre in which I worked quite a bit, the area seen by every
>  seat in the house consisted of a triangle 42 feet wide (proscenium width)
>  with and apex 12 feet upstage.

And that's before there's any set, or actors.

I have different problems. We work mostly on a big thrust stage, with a 270 
degree audience wrap. Everybody can see the whole stage, and they all deserve 
an appropriate picture. OK, they will all be different, but they have all paid 
the same. This can make design difficult. In-the-round is even worse, and one 
person's key light is another person's backlight.


Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <006d01c5c132$16055160$6400a8c0 [at] om.cox.net>
From: "John Gibilisco" <johngib [at] cox.net>
References: <list-24808973 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Strand Node Upgrades
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:02:10 -0500

Jay,

I don't have any notes at home on this subject. And I don't do enough
upgrading of node software to even give hints. The one thing I do remember
is DO NOT try to load Node software onto the console.

I will try to get you information on this. What Nodes are you running? And
what version software are you currently running. There is a document on the
Strand website called SN110 read me first. You may want to check it out.

Upgrading nodes can be a pain in the butt and some DOS knowledge is needed.
The upgrade will be well worth the hassle of learning how the do it.  X
Connect on a laptop is the hot setup. And it will allow your laptop to be a
control surface. Once you get things set up you may want to explore going
wireless with your laptop.

John G





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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:26:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Strand Node Upgrades
In-reply-to: <list-24808973 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <1196.172.149.81.192.1127586419.squirrel [at] 172.149.81.192>
References: <list-24808973 [at] prxy.net>

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I got this handy dandy software for my computer that will let me view
> my console, and maybe even control it. The problem is I need to
> upgrade the software on the console. (Strand 520i) S

The xConnect is a great toy, er.. tool.

> Has anyone upgraded the software on a Strand Node? I'm trying to
> upgrade the software on the network and I'm not sure what is going on
> with the Node. I can't even get to any kind of command line. I don't
> know what I'm doing at this point.

I have upgraded my node software.  What worked for me was to boot my
console (300 series) into DOS, and install the node software over the
network.  To do this you need to have upgraded your console OS, and
Networker first.

Sadly, all my notes and manuals are at the office.  Contact me offlist and
I can give you a call and talk you through the procedure once I have the
notes in front of me.

Steve Litterst
Ithaca COllege


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Subject: Wall Clocks for 1940's Radio Hour
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:42:51 -0500
Message-ID: <C7F9B0933E08584B8E8C98EA819DDDAC01CF87DF [at] joshua.huntington.edu>
From: "Mike Burnett" <mburnett [at] huntington.edu>

We're about to embark on the production work for 1940's Radio Hour.  I
was wondering if anyone who has done this show has the studio clocks
around and could talk my prop master through how to rig them to run
slower and faster than normal.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike=20

Mike Burnett, M.F.A.
Assistant Professor of Theatre
Chair, Department of Theatre

Huntington University
Impact your World...for Christ...in Scholarship...through Service

260-359-4279 office
260-359-4249 fax

mburnett [at] huntington.edu
www.huntington.edu/theatre=20

Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will
reap a harvest if we do not give up.  Therefore, as we have opportunity,
let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the
family of believers  =20
Galatians 6:9-10=20
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of
in your philosophy."
--Hamlet (I, v, 166-167)

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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Wall Clocks for 1940's Radio Hour
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:30:05 -0400
Message-ID: <000701c5c14f$25161af0$6701a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-reply-to: <list-24812090 [at] prxy.net>

=20
> We're about to embark on the production work for 1940's Radio=20
> Hour.  I was wondering if anyone who has done this show has=20
> the studio clocks around and could talk my prop master=20
> through how to rig them to run slower and faster than normal.=20

I've long wished that someone -- Rosco, GAM, Fleenor, Jerry =
Durand...someone
-- would make a DMX-controlled clock motor.  Ideally, it would have two
channels: one for speed and one for direction.

Jerry?



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In-Reply-To: <list-24812377 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-24812377 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <3730cdee4f4f0e90faa4062079b4cf26 [at] email.arizona.edu>
Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien)
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: Wall Clocks for 1940's Radio Hour
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:45:17 -0700

Wybron makes a dxm motor control. The one I have is 3 hp.  (REALLY big 
clock)  It has speed, and position, as well as a whole bunch of other 
stuff.  Hook that up to Loren's mechanics, and that would be just what 
you want!

Mark O


Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
Tucson, AZ
520/621-7025
520/591-1803 Mobile

Santos / McGarry in 2006


On Sep 24, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
>> We're about to embark on the production work for 1940's Radio
>> Hour.  I was wondering if anyone who has done this show has
>> the studio clocks around and could talk my prop master
>> through how to rig them to run slower and faster than normal.
>
> I've long wished that someone -- Rosco, GAM, Fleenor, Jerry 
> Durand...someone
> -- would make a DMX-controlled clock motor.  Ideally, it would have two
> channels: one for speed and one for direction.
>
> Jerry?
>
>


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From: "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: cheap seats
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:07:38 +0100
Message-ID: <ODEMKLAMIBKNHPJLNKDPMEBADCAA.deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-24810171 [at] prxy.net>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Paul
> Guncheon
> Sent: 24 September 2005 16:48
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: cheap seats
>
>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> <<Well, why don't you do what I did, and go to a terrific play with
> marvellous actors, and pay fifty bucks to sit somewhere bad which the
> designer has decided isn't important, and where you can't see the actors
> in the climactic scenes. Then see how you feel.>>
>
> I would feel cheated if the management didn't make it clear that I had an
> obstructed seat.  I would feel cheated if all the tickets were the same
> price.    I would probably think it was a poor set design but, more to the
> point, bad direction.
>
> I still wouldn't design for the cheap seats.  As I pointed out, climactic
> portions of the play must be viewed by all, but there are some
> seats in most
> theatres that cannot see everything... no matter what.
>
> Laters,
>
> Paul
>
>
I seem to recall that many West End theatres in London print 'restricted
view' on those affected tickets. I know I've had some like that.

TD



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From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com
Subject: RE: Wall Clocks for 1940's Radio Hour
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:34:59 -0400
In-Reply-To: <list-24812377 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20050925003504.CEVC26550.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866>

> I've long wished that someone -- Rosco, GAM, Fleenor, Jerry 
> Durand...someone
> -- would make a DMX-controlled clock motor.  Ideally, it 
> would have two
> channels: one for speed and one for direction.

How 'bout a wireless version?



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