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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #557

 1. Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #556
    by Steve Gambino <Steve.Gambino [at] Strandlighting.com>
 2. smoking pot again
    by Judy <kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il>
 3. Re: Boiling pot/smoke effect on a tight budget
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 4. Re: Boiling pot/smoke effect on a tight budget
    by Matt DeLong <matt.rosco.tech.support [at] gmail.com>
 5. Re: Boiling pot/smoke effect on a tight budget
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
 6. Boiling pot/smoke effect on a tight budget
    by <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org>
 7. High End Color Pro HX?
    by Davy Davis <wdavis [at] du.edu>
 8. Guthrie Moving (was Lighting equipment for sale in Minneapolis/St>Paul area)
    by Michael Powers <mptecdir [at] gmail.com>
 9. Re: Speaking of Google search - what is a 7050A1024?
    by "Joe Golden" <joe [at] stage-tech.com>
10. Re: Speaking of Google search - what is a 7050A1024?
    by "Aaron W. Braun" <ABraun [at] ArdeeDesign.com>
11. Re: Guthrie Moving (was Lighting equipment for sale in Minneapolis/St>Paul area)
    by clindau <clindau [at] mninter.net>
12. Re: Guthrie Moving (was Lighting equipment for sale in Minneapolis/St>Paul area)
    by Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
13. Boiling Pot on a tight budget
    by Paul Marsland <paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com>
14. electromagnets...doh!
    by "Frank Kern" <bugsynights [at] hotmail.com>
15. Re: electromagnets...doh!
    by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
16. Re: electromagnets...doh!
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
17. Moving shop  Was " Guthrie Moving "
    by Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
18. Re: Moving shop  Was " Guthrie Moving "
    by "Jared Fortney" <jared.fortney [at] gmail.com>
19. Re: Guthrie Moving (was Lighting equipment for sale in Minneapolis/St>Paul area)
    by Michael Powers <mptecdir [at] gmail.com>

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Message-ID: <9E53DD7DC667D311A47A0000F808EC8E02A7BDC1 [at] strandla>
From: Steve Gambino <Steve.Gambino [at] Strandlighting.com>
Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #556
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 03:01:43 -0700

Out of the office this afternoon.

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Message-ID: <4358D3FF.9030305 [at] post.tau.ac.il>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:41:51 +0200
From: Judy <kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il>
Subject: smoking pot again

>
>
> Someone spoke of ammonium chloride, and someone else of 
>sal-ammoniac. These are the same chemical, and neither is good for you.
>
Before using it, the TD of the theater consulted a government chemical 
safety agency and obtained all the data on this. Like most substances, 
it's a matter of quantity. I don't have the figures now (it was some 
years ago), but a teaspoonful of the stuff on stage was totally 
harmless. I also remember it is unquestionably not carcinogenic. When 
ingested by people with respiratory problems it can cause them trouble, 
but not in that small quantity in the volume of a stage. I think now 
that you'd have to check this out with respect to the person carrying 
the steaming pot, though.

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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 03:03:22 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Boiling pot/smoke effect on a tight budget
Message-id: <001501c5d63f$d16db9c0$1e8aea48 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p>
References: <list-25159171 [at] prxy.net>

> Loren,
> Please be aware that this technique for generating fog can be
> dangerous on several different levels. Fog fluid, ours at <SNIP> or
> those produced by anyone else, are designed to vaporize at a very
> specific temperature.
>

<<I saw that one coming a mile away!  I just wondered who was going to
point it out first.>>

Wonder if using the word "Rosco" had anything to do with getting the
response from whom it came.

<<Fog fluid, ours at Rosco or those produced by anyone else, are designed to
vaporize at a very
specific temperature.>>

and that temperature would be...?

<<On the other side, if the fluid is heated too much, it will burn, changing
the chemical composition, creating vapors that me be harmful if
inhaled.>>

I would like a more detailed explanation as to exactly what the composition
is and becomes when "overheated".

Laters,

Paul

"Some day, people will be able to take civil action against computers", said
Tom soothingly.



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Message-ID: <e50f98ee0510210616o756b2221qfb626aafbd3d989b [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:16:00 -0400
From: Matt DeLong <matt.rosco.tech.support [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Boiling pot/smoke effect on a tight budget
In-Reply-To: <list-25160609 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-25159171 [at] prxy.net> <list-25160609 [at] prxy.net>

Paul,
     The operating temperatures of Rosco fog machines is not published
information. Rosco fog fluid is made of a waterbased glycol solution.
If you are currious as to the exact content it can be obtained from
our website in the MSDS file at www.rosco.com in the technotes
section.
      If you have any further inqueries please feel free to contact
Eric Tishman, Fog Products Manger, at 1-800-767-2669 x258 and we would
be happy to discuss it with you.

Thanks!
Matt  [at]  Rosco Technical Support
1-800-767-2669 x213
mdelong [at] rosco.com


On 10/21/05, Paul Guncheon <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> > Loren,
> > Please be aware that this technique for generating fog can be
> > dangerous on several different levels. Fog fluid, ours at <SNIP> or
> > those produced by anyone else, are designed to vaporize at a very
> > specific temperature.
> >
>
> <<I saw that one coming a mile away!  I just wondered who was going to
> point it out first.>>
>
> Wonder if using the word "Rosco" had anything to do with getting the
> response from whom it came.
>
> <<Fog fluid, ours at Rosco or those produced by anyone else, are designed=
 to
> vaporize at a very
> specific temperature.>>
>
> and that temperature would be...?
>
> <<On the other side, if the fluid is heated too much, it will burn, chang=
ing
> the chemical composition, creating vapors that me be harmful if
> inhaled.>>
>
> I would like a more detailed explanation as to exactly what the compositi=
on
> is and becomes when "overheated".
>
> Laters,
>
> Paul
>
> "Some day, people will be able to take civil action against computers", s=
aid
> Tom soothingly.
>
>
>

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Message-ID: <4358ECA6.939DAFB1 [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:27:02 -0400
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Organization: The  fuzz in the back of the fridge. 
Subject: Re: Boiling pot/smoke effect on a tight budget
References: <list-25159171 [at] prxy.net> <list-25160609 [at] prxy.net>



Paul Guncheon wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> > Loren,
> > Please be aware that this technique for generating fog can be
> > dangerous on several different levels. Fog fluid, ours at <SNIP> or
> > those produced by anyone else, are designed to vaporize at a very
> > specific temperature.
> >
>
> <<I saw that one coming a mile away!  I just wondered who was going to
> point it out first.>>
>
> Wonder if using the word "Rosco" had anything to do with getting the
> response from whom it came.
>
> <<Fog fluid, ours at Rosco or those produced by anyone else, are designed to
> vaporize at a very
> specific temperature.>>
>
> and that temperature would be...?
>
> <<On the other side, if the fluid is heated too much, it will burn, changing
> the chemical composition, creating vapors that me be harmful if
> inhaled.>>
>
> I would like a more detailed explanation as to exactly what the composition
> is and becomes when "overheated".

    This sort of information ought to be included in the MSDS for the stuff,
if it is that bad.  The MSDS on their web site is silent on the issue.

    --Dale



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Message-ID: <000c01c5d649$ba3ca360$0500a8c0 [at] lpt>
From: <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org>
References: <list-25159171 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Boiling pot/smoke effect on a tight budget
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:14:18 -0500
Organization: Minnesota Ballet

May I recommend you give the folks at Theatre Effects a call. I know they 
have steam chips that will do the effect you want.
www.theatrefx.com
1800-791-7646

Kenneth Pogin
PSM / TM
Minnesota Ballet 



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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:36:57 -0600
From: Davy Davis <wdavis [at] du.edu>
Subject: High End Color Pro HX?
Message-id: <43590B19.40406 [at] du.edu>
Organization: DU Theatre

I've gotten funded for some semi-automated fixtures for our student 
black box theatre.  It's pretty small with a low ceiling (24'x32'x 11' 
high).  I'm thinking of getting a set of 8 High End Color Pro HXs.  The 
students have plenty of opportunity to work with scrollers so I am not 
considering them.  They also have the opportunity to work with High End 
x.spots and AutoYokes in a different theatre on campus.  Any thoughts on 
these or something else I should be looking at?
-- 
William Temple (Davy) Davis; Chair
Department of Theatre
University of Denver


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Message-ID: <58f67b0f0510210857r5433735dne4cf005270ab0456 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:57:58 -0500
From: Michael Powers <mptecdir [at] gmail.com>
Cc: clindau [at] mninter.net
Subject: Guthrie Moving (was Lighting equipment for sale in Minneapolis/St>Paul area)

clindau <clindau [at] mninter.net> writes:


<<The Guthrie is selling off some of its lighting equipment in advance of
the move to the river....................... >>

Cindy,

For those of us who have been in limbo for a while, would you be so
kind as to elaborate a touch on "the move"?
--
Michael

Michael Powers
515-557-0178  cell

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From: "Joe Golden" <joe [at] stage-tech.com>
Cc: alf.sauve [at] mindspring.com ('Alf Sauve')
Subject: RE: Speaking of Google search - what is a 7050A1024?
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:05:25 -0700
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAlp19hPY+Ik+UstZHYjewX8KAAAAQAAAAC5ru6fNulUm4+MWSn8Fh/wEAAAAA [at] stage-tech.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-25155379 [at] prxy.net>

Is it black about 1" square with IIRC purple/brown leads?  If so it is a =
ETC
Link terminator and not DMX.  Call ETC Field Engineering for more info
800.688.4116.

Joe

Speaking of google.   I was crawling under the console today, running =
new
 Cat-5 to the sound/light booth.  I discovered an apparently unused
 little box with two leads just sitting behind all the conduit.   Had a =
ETC=20
part number on it.  I searched the
 ETC site and nada....not found.   Did a google search and it pointed me =
to
 the Sensor manual on the ETC site.  Evidently ETC doesn't index it's =
own
documentation.  (The part was a terminator.....could explain some =
erratic
behavior.  Will install tomorrow.)

=20

--=20
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: =
10/19/2005
=20


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From: "Aaron W. Braun" <ABraun [at] ArdeeDesign.com>
Subject: Re:Speaking of Google search - what is a 7050A1024?
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:39:27 -0500
Message-ID: <EGEMKCCELEEMDAPDPDFPCECICEAA.ABraun [at] ArdeeDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-25159171 [at] prxy.net>

The 7050A1024 is the ETC part number for their ETCLink terminator, also
known as the "ice cube".  It is usually a small black plastic box with two
purple leads coming out of it, but some older ones may look different.  It
is wired into the terminal block on the last plug-in station on the ETCLink
line.  It will wire into terminals 1 and 2.  ETCLink follows a daisy chain
topology and requires termination at each end.  Since one of those ends is
usually at the dimmer rack, the last rack in line will have termination
turned on at the terminator board behind the CEM.

If you have more than one Belden wire terminating to the back of your
plug-in station, it is not at the end of the line and should not be
terminated.  Over terminating will cause data issues and prevent ETCLink
from working.

You said that you have some erratic behavior in the system.  Typically,
ETCLink is not the cause of strange behavior.  (One major exception:  If you
plug your ETCLink line into the RFU port on the back of your console, the
console will sometimes interpret the ETCLink data and console commands.  You
might see channels mysteriously turn on in this case.)  Please let this list
know what issues you are trying to hunt down, or call ETC technical services
at 1-800-688-4116.

-----Original Message-----
I discovered an apparently unused
 little box with two leads just sitting behind all the conduit.   Had a ETC
part number on it.  I searched the  ETC site and nada....not found.   Did a
google search and it pointed me to the Sensor manual on the ETC site.
Evidently ETC doesn't index it's own documentation.  (The part was a
terminator.....could explain some erratic  behavior.  Will install
tomorrow.)



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Message-ID: <435923E3.40500 [at] mninter.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:22:43 -0500
From: clindau <clindau [at] mninter.net>
Cc: mptecdir [at] gmail.com (Michael Powers)
Subject: Re: Guthrie Moving (was Lighting equipment for sale in Minneapolis/St>Paul
 area)
References: <58f67b0f0510210857r5433735dne4cf005270ab0456 [at] mail.gmail.com>

The Guthrie is moving next spring to fancy new digs on the Mississippi. 
Three theatres under one roof, with the scene shop across the street 
atop a new parking ramp. The scene shop is connected to the main 
building by a long corridor.

The final show in the "old" Guthrie is Hamlet--the same show Tyrone 
opened it with. It closes, I think, May 8 2006; the same date as the 
official opening in '63?  '64?. Then it's a month or so of closing up 
shop--the production shops will start their moves about the time that 
Hamlet opens (early March--that's right--two months of Hamlet). That 
means that stage crew, wardrobe, box office and front of house staff 
will be left in the building by May. The big official opening is the 
last weekend in June 2006--Several events for donors, subscribers, etc. 
over several days with a big open house for the public on that Sunday. 
Then, it's my understanding that we close the doors and get ready to 
open the first shows in the new venues. As far as dates for those, or 
titles, I have no idea. I'm very low on the food chain.

As Uncle Bill would say, 'zat help?

Cindy Lindau
Stagehand, Local 13
Guthrie Theater

Michael Powers wrote:

>clindau <clindau [at] mninter.net> writes:
>
>
><<The Guthrie is selling off some of its lighting equipment in advance of
>the move to the river....................... >>
>
>Cindy,
>
>For those of us who have been in limbo for a while, would you be so
>kind as to elaborate a touch on "the move"?
>--
>Michael
>
>Michael Powers
>515-557-0178  cell
>
>
>  
>




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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:29:05 +0100 (BST)
From: Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
Subject: Re: Guthrie Moving (was Lighting equipment for sale in Minneapolis/St>Paul
 area)
In-Reply-To: <list-25163248 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0510211826520.17751 [at] viscount.richmondsounddesign.com>
References: <58f67b0f0510210857r5433735dne4cf005270ab0456 [at] mail.gmail.com>
 <list-25163248 [at] prxy.net>

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, clindau wrote:

> The Guthrie is moving next spring to fancy new digs on the Mississippi. Three

Is the new main stage still a thrust design or are they going back to more a 
conventional configuration?

Curious minds and all want to know how much this has to do with the old space's 
unconventional design....

Charlie

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Message-ID: <20051021184233.39099.qmail [at] web52204.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:42:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Marsland <paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Boiling Pot on a tight budget
In-Reply-To: <list-25159171 [at] prxy.net>

I had a friend do very well creating steam with a
cheap steaming iron and a watered down fog fluid (of
course, not Rosco fluid).  Temperature adjustable and
constant output.  Some futzing with the recipe and
temp setting should lead to a good looking effect.


	
		
__________________________________ 
Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 
http://mail.yahoo.com

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Message-ID: <BAY101-F14BA74421032167BB7CB34BA720 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Frank Kern" <bugsynights [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: electromagnets...doh!
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:25:58 +0000

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>Hey guys.&nbsp; Just wanted to thank you all for the information concerning the falling leaves posting.</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>I never thought it would take off like it did.&nbsp; I guess people are just interested in dropping stuff!</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>Anywho, have been trying a bunch of things lately and have found that the electromagnets, </DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>although one of my favorite ideas, didn't work like I thought.&nbsp; Purchased a 12volt DC surface contact electromagnet from McMaster Carr - a 3 amp, 13.8 Volt DC Power&nbsp;Supply from RadioShack to&nbsp;continuously power the switchbox and magnets.&nbsp; Turns out,&nbsp;even&nbsp;when the electromagnet is switched off, it holds its magnetic properties just enough to keep my effect from working properly and in a timely fashion.&nbsp; I could understand using it for heavier objects, which may work due to the proven Newtonian&nbsp;effects of gravity...but for little things, no dice (s).&nbsp; Am currently working on a mechanical idea as mentioned in the postings.&nbsp; Take it easy.</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>Frank Kern III</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>North Carolina School of the Arts&nbsp; </DIV></div></html>


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From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
Subject: RE: electromagnets...doh!
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:42:38 -0400
Message-ID: <004c01c5d688$5b74e150$6400a8c0 [at] p3m866>
In-Reply-To: <list-25165930 [at] prxy.net>

This problem involves both residual magnetism in the iron, and failure of
the electromagnetic field to quickly collapse on cue.  Loren mentioned that
it can help to send a short burst of reverse power to the coil.  This sounds
like a good idea to me.  If you haven't ripped the whole thing apart yet,
this might be worth trying.
 
Jim
www.theatrewireless.com
 
 
> Turns out, even when the electromagnet is switched off, it holds 
> its magnetic properties just enough to keep my effect from working 
> properly and in a timely fashion.




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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:54:17 -0400
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: electromagnets...doh!
In-reply-to: <list-25165930 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <43597199.8030103 [at] ithaca.edu>
Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts
References: <list-25165930 [at] prxy.net>

Frank Kern wrote:

> ---------------------------------------------------

   Turns out, even when the electromagnet is
> switched off, it holds its magnetic properties just enough to keep my 
> effect from working properly and in a timely fashion.  I could 
> understand using it for heavier objects, which may work due to the 
> proven Newtonian effects of gravity...but for little things, no dice 
> (s).  


Can you use a weightier piece of iron to hold the leaves in place? 
(Properly safetied, of course)

Steve L.

-- 
Stephen C. Litterst
Technical Supervisor
Ithaca College
Dept. of Theatre Arts
607/274-3947
slitterst [at] ithaca.edu

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Message-ID: <43597868.3000701 [at] fuse.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:23:20 -0400
From: Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
Subject: Moving shop  Was " Guthrie Moving "
References: <58f67b0f0510210857r5433735dne4cf005270ab0456 [at] mail.gmail.com> <list-25163248 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-25163248 [at] prxy.net>

clindau wrote:
> 
> The Guthrie is moving next spring to fancy new digs on the Mississippi. 
> Three theatres under one roof, with the scene shop across the street 
> atop a new parking ramp. The scene shop is connected to the main 
> building by a long corridor.
> 


You have my sympathy!  Today we started moving our shop to a 
bigger and better place just a mile away, and tommorrow we 
finish. Even with the aid of a great team of commercial 
movers, this is no small undertaking. The good news is that 
even after 6 truckloads, and with almost nothing organised, 
it still has lots of room!

Our new space was formerly a machine shop, and has lots more 
space. a cool 15 ton beam crane and jib cranes on half the 
columns.  You can even get a rail car into our big loading 
bay, though the tracks are missing as soon as you hit the 
property line.  My big headache right now is power, I've got 
110 everywhere, But the high voltage power that is located 
all around the place is 480 three phase  So far I think I 
found one 220 drop for welders, and I might just be 
converting a few other welders up to 480 volt machines (just 
re-tap and swap plugs)  I just hope the table saw and Cold 
saw can either be adapted or I find more 220.

Stuart


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From: "Jared Fortney" <jared.fortney [at] gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Moving shop  Was " Guthrie Moving "
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:24:13 -0400
In-reply-to: <list-25167061 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <435978aa.16558ea2.7174.ffffb74c [at] mx.gmail.com>

Stuart,

Where's the new place?  More importantly, did they leave any of the machine
tools?  Best of luck with the move!

-Jared Fortney


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Message-ID: <58f67b0f0510212141t7bb7bcbbxce2b5ee37b2d068 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:41:50 -0500
From: Michael Powers <mptecdir [at] gmail.com>
Cc: clindau [at] mninter.net (clindau)
Subject: Re: Guthrie Moving (was Lighting equipment for sale in Minneapolis/St>Paul area)
In-Reply-To: <435923E3.40500 [at] mninter.net>
References: <58f67b0f0510210857r5433735dne4cf005270ab0456 [at] mail.gmail.com>
	 <435923E3.40500 [at] mninter.net>

On 10/21/05, clindau <clindau [at] mninter.net> wrote:

.............................
> As Uncle Bill would say, 'zat help?..............

Cindy,

'zat helps a lot.  Thanks for the reply!
--
Michael

Michael Powers
515-557-0178  cell

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