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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #569

 1. Re: LDI
    by Ken Romaine <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
 2. Re: LDI
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
 3. Re: Catwalk Policy Advice
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
 4. Re: Working alone
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
 5. Re: Working alone
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
 6. Re: ghostlight
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
 7. Re: wikipedia
    by "Tony Kambic" <Eagle194 [at] netscape.com>
 8. Re: Cell phone tower
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
 9. Re: Contract Rider Help!!!
    by Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
10. Re: Catwalk Policy Advice
    by Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
11. Re: Electrocuted...
    by Mitch Hefter <stagecraft01 [at] DesignRelief.com>
12. Re: LDI
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
13. Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise)
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
14. Re: ghostlight
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
15. Marley was dead....
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
16. Re: Cat jokes
    by Jacqueline Haney Kidwell <jacki14fr [at] yahoo.com>
17. Re: keeping a pool warm
    by Adam Berns <gunntd [at] mac.com>
18. Re: keeping a pool warm
    by Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
19. Re: wikipedia
    by Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
20. Re: wikipedia
    by "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
21. Re: wikipedia
    by Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
22. Re: wikipedia
    by "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
23. Re: wikipedia
    by Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>

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Message-ID: <ce2084ad0510311438v3ffc6295s7a0ea9e3157979f8 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:38:21 -0500
From: Ken Romaine <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LDI
In-Reply-To: <list-25291515 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-25291296 [at] prxy.net> <list-25291515 [at] prxy.net>

I'll be arriving Thursday, leaving Sunday.

I understand that Herrick the Much-Travelled will be there, too.

I expect that my schedule will be much like Steve's.
--
Ken Romaine
Northeast US Sales Manager - Barco Events
The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how
much I want to impose them on the rest of the world.

> > Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com wrote:
> >
> > Are we going to try for a listers meet up at LDI next month?

> Then Steve L. wrote:
>
> I'll be there W-F.  I'll certainly be at a bar each night, just tell
> me which one.
>

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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <5b.75462412.3097f897 [at] aol.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:45:43 EST
Subject: Re: LDI

I will be bopping over from Tampa on Friday, and probably Friday only, 

I plan on being at the Rosebrand party Friday eve

very best,

Keith Arsenault

IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group 
Tampa, Florida

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1d7.48b7fdd1.3097ff72 [at] aol.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:14:58 EST
Subject: Re: Catwalk Policy Advice

In a message dated 31/10/05 21:53:42 GMT Standard Time, 
Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com writes:

> Sorry Frank, I forgot one needs to spell it out for you. If the person
>  wearing the harness has fallen (ie the harness has deployed) you now have
>  someone dangling X number of feet /meters above the deck, there have been
>  many discussions about harness safety and "hang time" on this list but
>  perhaps you've forgotten. A critical part of providing the harness is
>  having a plan on how to get said person safely out of the harness and back
>  on terra firma. Does that clear it up a bit for you?

Not much. We are talking about two different problems. Falling on the catwalk 
is one, and thet does need eveacuation procedures,

Falling off the catwalk should be substantially impossible. 

Frank Wood

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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Cc: phsullivan [at] yahoo.com ('Paul H. Sullivan')
Cc: young842 [at] earthlink.net ('Helen Young')
Cc: web [at] itisdesign.com ('Aaron Neff - What iT iS dESign studios')
Cc: pmiller [at] hsutx.edu ('Miller, Patrick ')
Cc: papatroy1 [at] aim.com
Cc: PinayRN [at] aol.com
Cc: web [at] itisdesign.com ('Aaron Neff - What iT iS dESign studios')
Cc: wkuennin [at] personalshelterproject.org
Cc: wtsuoj [at] wbl.whitebear.k12.mn.us ('Wendy Suoja')
Cc: freeheartnow [at] yahoo.com ('Nancy Green')
Cc: Nancy.Curtis [at] VBSchools.com ('Nancy P. Curtis')
Cc: ninjarigging [at] mac.com ('Baer Long')
Cc: Marivic.Tuplano [at] saint-gobain.com
Cc: mskitty [at] wowway.com ('Kitty Hoffman')
Cc: marievictoria [at] itisdesign.com ('MarieVictoria Davidson - What iT iS dESign studios')
Cc: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Cc: drkrajec [at] stritch.edu
Cc: davidson.22 [at] nd.edu
Cc: david [at] dslextreme.com
Cc: dmdecker [at] ucdavis.edu ('Debbie Decker')
Cc: d.culhane [at] secoa.com ('Dan Culhane')
Cc: rshamel [at] gis.net ('Rick Shamel')
Cc: rnix [at] one.net
Cc: rowdyjunction [at] sbcglobal.net ('Nancy Gibson')
Cc: ghollick [at] unm.edu
Cc: thepocketjunkie [at] hotmail.com ('Becky Gonzalez')
Cc: traas [at] execpc.com
Cc: TheTopezKat [at] aol.com
Cc: ecoreno [at] charter.net ('Eugene Coreno')
Cc: jdennisonpac [at] msn.com
Cc: Jaflene [at] aol.com
Cc: Jaflene [at] aol.com
Cc: jssteel [at] sbcglobal.net
Cc: jantrim [at] williams.edu
Cc: j_linden [at] eznetinc.com ('John Linden')
Subject: RE: Working alone
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:40:56 -0700
In-Reply-To: <list-25239483 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000025292327 [at] prxy.net>

No one working overhead should ever work alone. Period. Mr. Sapsis is
correct in this. Whatever level of work you are doing or what ever position
you are in the business, working alone at heights is more than common sense,
which I am not sure is still around, it is reasonable and just due diligence
for all of us who know the hazards and dangers of what we work with and the
potential for injury and death. All Fall Prevention training requires the
emergency aspects to be included, just in case someone is stuck in the air
or on a beam, and whether it is a catwalk or not, and so many catwalks are
death traps in the theaters in this country, it just means we must provide
even more due diligence and enforcement. Schools, the largest of theater
venues in the world, are especially vulnerable, with lack of training, lack
of supervision, and lack of attention to safety. 
Dr. doom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sapsis
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:08 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Working alone

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My riggers do not work alone.  Ever.  My common sense tells me that if
something goes wrong; an accident, heart attack...whatever, then there is
someone there who can respond to the situation.

But that's me.

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561 mobile

Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity
motorcycle ride.   <www.LRLR.org>




On 10/27/05 11:47 AM, "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net> wrote:

> I have absolutely no problem working alone.  I simply don't do what takes
> two people to do, or is unsafe to do by myself.  I really don't want rules
> that will not allow me to work by myself.



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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:46:12 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Working alone
In-Reply-To: <list-25292328 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-25239483 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-25292328 [at] prxy.net>

Everyone should know what "BCC:" is and use it.  :)

At 03:40 PM 10/31/2005, you wrote:
>From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
>Cc: phsullivan [at] yahoo.com ('Paul H. Sullivan')
>Cc: young842 [at] earthlink.net ('Helen Young')
>Cc: web [at] itisdesign.com ('Aaron Neff - What iT iS dESign studios')
>Cc: pmiller [at] hsutx.edu ('Miller, Patrick ')
>Cc: papatroy1 [at] aim.com
>Cc: PinayRN [at] aol.com
>Cc: web [at] itisdesign.com ('Aaron Neff - What iT iS dESign studios')
>Cc: wkuennin [at] personalshelterproject.org
>Cc: wtsuoj [at] wbl.whitebear.k12.mn.us ('Wendy Suoja')
>Cc: freeheartnow [at] yahoo.com ('Nancy Green')
>Cc: Nancy.Curtis [at] VBSchools.com ('Nancy P. Curtis')
>Cc: ninjarigging [at] mac.com ('Baer Long')
>Cc: Marivic.Tuplano [at] saint-gobain.com
>Cc: mskitty [at] wowway.com ('Kitty Hoffman')
>Cc: marievictoria [at] itisdesign.com ('MarieVictoria Davidson - What iT 
>iS dESign studios')
>Cc: MissWisc [at] aol.com
>Cc: drkrajec [at] stritch.edu
>Cc: davidson.22 [at] nd.edu
>Cc: david [at] dslextreme.com
>Cc: dmdecker [at] ucdavis.edu ('Debbie Decker')
>Cc: d.culhane [at] secoa.com ('Dan Culhane')
>Cc: rshamel [at] gis.net ('Rick Shamel')
>Cc: rnix [at] one.net
>Cc: rowdyjunction [at] sbcglobal.net ('Nancy Gibson')
>Cc: ghollick [at] unm.edu
>Cc: thepocketjunkie [at] hotmail.com ('Becky Gonzalez')
>Cc: traas [at] execpc.com
>Cc: TheTopezKat [at] aol.com
>Cc: ecoreno [at] charter.net ('Eugene Coreno')
>Cc: jdennisonpac [at] msn.com
>Cc: Jaflene [at] aol.com
>Cc: Jaflene [at] aol.com
>Cc: jssteel [at] sbcglobal.net
>Cc: jantrim [at] williams.edu
>Cc: j_linden [at] eznetinc.com ('John Linden')


-- 
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:49:53 GMT
Subject: Re: ghostlight
Message-Id: <20051031.155041.10477.58272 [at] webmail34.lax.untd.com>

The mother Theatre Cat trains her offspring in both appropriate hunting =
skills and how to become invisible when an audience is present, before t=
he young cat is assigned a theatre to guard. Cats enjoy catching Dinner-=
on-the-Hoof, even when adequate food is provided; they have a categorica=
l exemption from fall-arrest rules. =

/s/ Richard
_________________________
How do you train a Theatre Cat?  And does it require fall restraint when=
 it is alone on the Catwalks? =

Chip =

  


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Reply-To: <Eagle194 [at] netscape.com>
From: "Tony Kambic" <Eagle194 [at] netscape.com>
Subject: RE: wikipedia
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:01:17 -0500
Message-ID: <000001c5de7f$c567e360$699aaaac [at] tony>
In-Reply-To: <list-25289426 [at] prxy.net>

Actually a lot of information about fixtures I never knew...

-"Scoops... are also called ERW (Ellipsoidal Reflector Washlights)."
-PAR##- The number indicates the diameter of the housing in eighths of =
an
inch

I think its funny Wikipedia is biased against Fresnels ("Fresnels are =
not
very efficient") It's true but I like them. They give old theaters that
trademark smell of burnt rust & dust...

Tony K
Even-more-educated Electrician
Cincinnati, OH



-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Charlie
Richmond
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:50 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: wikipedia

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Has anyone looked at the interesting assemblage of articles on lighting
here?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_lighting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighting_designer

and there are a few others less related to theatre....  What do people =
think
of=20
these?  Has anyone here edited these articles?  I'm tussling with how
detailed=20
to get and what focus to put on similar articles for sound and sound =
design
and=20
want to get the feedback from a larger community...

Thanks!
Charlie


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Message-ID: <4366BF36.584513DE [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:04:54 -0500
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Organization: The  fuzz in the back of the fridge. 
Subject: Re: Cell phone tower
References: <list-25291674 [at] prxy.net>



"ladesigners [at] juno.com" wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Yea. Insist that the fees paid by Verizon are used to supplement your budget. You'll need the funds not for dealing with RF issues as much as dealing with the additional weight/windload on your structure. Make sure that the repeaters and antennas can be serviced without entering your building. If they wish to place a back-up generator on site, make sure that its 'movie quiet' and is only a back-up to a UPS.
> /s/ Richard
> __________________________
> Hey Folks,
> I have a meeting next week with my boss and the people from Verizon
> wireless about putting a cell phone tower on top of our stagehouse.
> I know that there has been some discussion in the past about this but I can't access the archives.  Does anyone have any horror stories,
> advice, or things I should look for and ask about?
> Thanks,
> Randy Levine
>

    Get a monthly rental fee, not a purchase and permanent easement onto
your building.    When they subrent tower space to other companies, insist
that you get a decent percentage of that action.    Give yourself the option
to put your own antennas on the tower for no charge.  Don't expect better cell
service in the building, directly under the antennas.
    Go read the archives of comp.dcom.telecom news group on exactly
this sort of thing.
    Plan on emergency access to the tower and equipment shelter.  When
the thing goes down, the service people are going to come out, whatever
the time of day or during a show it may be, and they are not going to stop
just because you happen to be in the middle of a show.
    As for the backup generator, they probbably won't want to put one
on site.  They will want a plug and a place to park the thing for use
during a power failure.  Movie quiet won't be much of an issue, when
the entire building is without electrical power.

    --Dale


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References: <list-25253950 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <E38C25C8-DE5F-4D7C-A2BF-538478ACE07C [at] appstate.edu>
From: Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
Subject: Re: Contract Rider Help!!!
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:55:40 -0500


On Oct 28, 2005, at 7:11 AM, CB wrote:

>>     Of course, she could always tell the Fine Arts folks that she
>> doesn't come down to where _they_ earn a living and try to tell
>> _them_ where to position the red light or how often to change the
>> sheets...
>>
>>
>
> Now that was just rude and uncalled for.  The proper way to address  
> this
> issue is to tell them that you don't come down to where they work  
> and tell
> them how to deep-fry the chicken or how to salt the fries....
>
>
>                 Chris "Chris" Babbie
>

Chris,
     You're right of course. I was giving them too much credit for  
being professionals... of a sort.

-=Greg Williams=-
Production Manager
Valborg Theatre, Appalachian State University
www.LRLR.org - 2006 ride dates July 9-18 - c'mon and join us!

P.S. CB - check the website and mark your calendar - ya got 9 months  
notice this time! :-)




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Message-ID: <b7318c480510311821w20a104fbr667aee901c11c4a3 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:21:56 -0500
From: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Catwalk Policy Advice
In-Reply-To: <list-25292116 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-25292116 [at] prxy.net>

On 10/31/05, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com <FrankWood95 [at] aol.com> wrote:
>
> Falling off the catwalk should be substantially impossible.

Unfortunately for him, John Horvat at Seneca Valley High School proved
that your statement above to be completely untrue.

-Delbert

--
Delbert L. Hall
Phone: 714-585-7070

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Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20051031195335.0319f200 [at] mail.DesignRelief.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:12:35 -0600
From: Mitch Hefter <stagecraft01 [at] DesignRelief.com>
Subject: Re: Electrocuted...
In-Reply-To: <list-25292115 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-25292115 [at] prxy.net>

 From the USITT Electrical Safety Workshops (derived from multiple sources):

As previously noted, it's the current that kills. Higher voltage just makes 
it easier to get higher currents.

The current range of 100 ma to 200 ma is the most lethal, but currents as 
low as 60 ma can kill.

1 mA  --  Threshold of feeling, tingling sensation
5 mA  --  Accepted as maximum harmless current
10 - 20 mA  --  Beginning of sustained muscular contraction ("Can't let go" 
current)
100 - 200 mA  --  Ventricular fibrillation, fatal if continued; Respiratory 
function continues
200 mA & Over  --  Severe burns; muscle contractions so severe that chest 
muscles clamp (stop) the heart for the duration of the shock (protecting 
from Ventricular Fibrillation); breathing is stopped; survival chances are 
good if First Aid (CPR) is started at once.

Typical body resistances:
hand to foot (thru the heart) - 500 ohms
ear to ear -100 ohms
dry skin - 100k - 600k ohms
wet skin 1000 ohms

Longer contact with the shock current lowers the body's resistance, which 
increases current flow.

Contrary to an earlier posting, Alternating Current (AC) is more dangerous 
than "pure" Direct Current (DC).
It can take between 2 to 4 times the magnitude of DC to produce the same 
effects as AC.  AC induces sweating that lowers skin resistance and causes 
more severe muscle contractions.  60 Cycle AC which is used in the U.S. and 
Canada is the most dangerous frequency - it can kill at 25 V.

With pure DC (no ripple), the threshold at which Ventricular Fibrillation 
occurs is fairly constant over time, while this threshold goes down with AC

The polarity of DC is a factor, and the threshold of let-go is not really 
definable with DC under 300 ma since the muscle contractions occurs on make 
or break.

Above 300 ma (DC), let-go may not be possible, and this level usually 
results in unconsciousness.

. . .
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mitch Hefter
USITT Engineering Vice-Commissioner

Office:  Entertainment Technology / a Division of the Genlyte Group
         mhefter  [at]  genlyte.com 


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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:45:48 -0500
Subject: Re: LDI
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BF8C410C.4837%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-25291795 [at] prxy.net>

I'll be there also.  Rose Brand Party Friday night fer sure.  Then there's
the certification exams on Saturday.  I'll be the guy in the corner praying
that the 200+ riggers who are taking the tests don't want to kill me
afterward. 

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561 mobile

Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity
motorcycle ride.   <www.LRLR.org>






On 10/31/05 5:38 PM, "Ken Romaine" <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> I'll be arriving Thursday, leaving Sunday.
> 
> I understand that Herrick the Much-Travelled will be there, too.
> 
> I expect that my schedule will be much like Steve's.
> --
> Ken Romaine
> Northeast US Sales Manager - Barco Events
> The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how
> much I want to impose them on the rest of the world.
> 
>>> Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are we going to try for a listers meet up at LDI next month?
> 
>> Then Steve L. wrote:
>> 
>> I'll be there W-F.  I'll certainly be at a bar each night, just tell
>> me which one.
>> 



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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:04:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise)
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BF8C4571.483C%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-25285892 [at] prxy.net>

The idea is to protect yourself from being hurt.  As previously mentioned,
Fall Arrest is not required for ladders....WHEN they are used properly.  Now
I know that we never ever use ladders incorrectly, right gang?  Right.

So, if you are in a situation where, even though you are following the
rules, you feel it might be a good idea to tie off..go ahead and do it.  Tie
off to that pipe, if you want to.  But do not rely on the rope lock to hold
you, especially if you have a long lanyard.  The shock load of a person
falling 6 feet is pretty staggering.  Could go as high as 2500 pounds.

Anyway, if you are using a batten as an anchorage point you should
1)  Secure the arbor.  This could mean chaining it off to the t-bar or
attaching a line to it and tying off to the locking rail or something
similar.

2)  make sure the lanyard you are using is no longer than absolutely
necessary.  The shorter the fall distance the less the shock load.

3)  Do not "choke" the lanyard around the batten unless it is designed for
that kind of tie off.  This is an extremely common mistake.  Lanyards thrown
over I-beams or battens or whatever and simply clipped back to itself.
99.9% of all lanyards are not designed to do this and will probably fail if
shock loaded.  

Know your gear and make sure you are using it all properly.

Peter...zat help?


Anybody see the Today Show this morning?  We did a rappelling thing with Al
Roeker and Mat Lawer (sp?)  It was good fun and they were great sports to
try this stunt.  Not every one can take that leap of faith and lean out over
the edge of a building like that.

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561 mobile

Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity
motorcycle ride.   <www.LRLR.org>







On 10/31/05 9:09 AM, "Peter Scheu" <peter [at] scheuconsulting.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> G. D. George wrote:
> 
>> I had a fiberglass step-ladder come out from under about two
>> years ago now. I was working on a light about 12 feet off the
>> ground.  I don't think I was even straddling the thing. I felt
>> the ladder shift (and I know it was sitting flat when I
>> climbed it!) and next thing I knew I was hanging from the electric.
> 
> A question for Bill (Sapsis) as resident expert - I'm curious... What's the
> protocol here? Should he have harnessed off to the pipe batten? I can't
> think of any other "structure" nearby. I assume that if, say, a 200 lb
> person all of a sudden starts hanging from an already balanced and locked
> off batten pipe, the lineset will either not move, or slowly drift in as it
> pull through the rope lock. When the person is detached, the load is again
> balanced.
> 
> Is this a desirable scenario? Seems a little hinkey to me...
> 
> Peter Scheu
>  
> Scheu Consulting Services, Inc.
> Syracuse, NY
> www.scheuconsulting.com
> 



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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051031202429.00b4f680 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:24:29
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: ghostlight

>>> The Ghostmusters
>>
>> Are they union?
>
>Plumber's

Contact Don Martin in Scranton, (Plumber to the Stars).
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: Marley was dead....
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:54:39 -0500
Message-ID: <002c01c5dea0$61002420$6601a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-24919083 [at] prxy.net>

Hi, Barney:

Jeff Salzberg here, from the stagecraft list.

I find myself in need of a piece of dance floor -- anything from 12' to 30'
would do.

If you have anything that size for rent, could you (or one of your rental
folks call me ASAP?

Thanks,

Jeff

=================================
Jeffrey E. Salzberg,
Lighting Designer
http://www.jeffsalzberg.com

917/238-7430 (Cell)



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Message-ID: <20051101050557.72234.qmail [at] web36203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:05:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Jacqueline Haney Kidwell <jacki14fr [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Cat jokes
In-Reply-To: <list-25291667 [at] prxy.net>



--- "Ray-Pfeifer, Merel" <raypf1mg [at] cmich.edu> wrote:

> Some of us feline fanciers actually enjoyed the
> slight diversion.  I sent
> the Haikus to my costumer who was very amused by
> them.
> 
Doris Ramsey, or the shop supervisor?

(I went to Central from 1980 to 85.  Stopped by this
summer on the way to my high school reunion, and was
DELIGHTED to find that Doris was still there.  I hope
you enjoy Mt P as much as I did.)

          Jacki


	
		
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Message-ID: <11304660.1130823568441.JavaMail.gunntd [at] mac.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:39:28 -0800
From: Adam Berns <gunntd [at] mac.com>
Subject: Re: keeping a pool warm
in-reply-to: <list-25289893 [at] prxy.net>
references: <list-25288157 [at] prxy.net> <list-25289893 [at] prxy.net>

The water bed heaters may be a good idea, except people need to walk on the=
 bottom of the pool.  I would be afraid of somebody stepping on a part that=
 would puncture the floor of the pool.
=20
On Monday, October 31, 2005, at 11:39AM, Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center <=
admin [at] mtangelperformingarts.com> wrote:

>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>Adam Berns wrote:
>
>>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>>---------------------------------------------------
>>
>>So, we are doing Metomorphisis.  The pool is 8'x10'x18" deep.  I am looki=
ng for a SIMPLE way of keeping the pool warm.  We do have a 5 gallon water =
heater in the shop that we could warm the water with, but 5 gallons, compar=
ed to the amount the pool holds is not very much.  We might cover it, thoug=
h the theater has no heating during the night, and it gets very cold, very =
quickly.  So covering it won't do much good since the sides of the pool are=
 not insulated either.  I have heard stories of people using a bare wire in=
 the water, but that sounds a little weird.  We do have a pump that will ke=
ep the water circulating in the pool (to help prevent bacteria, etc, along =
with chlorine, bromide wont work since that only works with HOT water).  Bu=
t back to subject, any ideas on keeping the water warm?  I was thinking som=
ething like what fish tanks use,  submersible water heaters, but we would n=
eed a lot of those, same is true with coffee warmers.  Because of mechanica=
l reasons, I can not cut a hole in the side of the "tank" to put a heating =
element.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>> =20
>>
>Three or four waterbed heaters under the pool liner should keep it=20
>nicely warmed.
>
>They come with thermostats and are UL approved for damp locations. I=20
>find them regularly at thrift stores for a couple of bucks, or available=
=20
>new at bedding suppliers.
>
>Takes a long time for them to bring cold water up to temperature, so=20
>start with warm water when you fill the tank.
>
>Also, if you put all of them along the same edge of the tank they'll=20
>passively circulate the water via convection so you don't need the pump.
>
>As others have mentioned, a bubblewrap insulation blanket while the pool=
=20
>is not used would help tremendously.
>
>Carla
>
>
>

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Message-ID: <4367025A.8030903 [at] peak.org>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:51:22 -0800
From: Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
Subject: Re: keeping a pool warm
References: <list-25288157 [at] prxy.net> <list-25289893 [at] prxy.net> <list-25294883 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-25294883 [at] prxy.net>

Adam Berns wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>

> The water bed heaters may be a good idea, except people need to walk on the bottom of the pool.  I would be afraid of somebody stepping on a part that would puncture the floor of the pool.

Waterbed heaters are flat, flexible vinyl panels containing the same sort 
of heating wire configuration one would find in an electric blanket. 
They're specifically made *not* to cause punctures, because if they did, 
sleeping in a waterbed would be a perilous adventure.

-- 
Pat Kight


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:46:58 +0000 (GMT)
From: Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
Cc: Eagle194 [at] netscape.com
Subject: Re: wikipedia
In-Reply-To: <list-25293064 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0511010844370.15092 [at] viscount.richmondsounddesign.com>
References: <list-25293064 [at] prxy.net>

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Tony Kambic wrote:

> I think its funny Wikipedia is biased against Fresnels ("Fresnels are not

Wikipedia is written by members of the public - anyone can edit articles - so 
what's there is simply what people who have chosen to write have written.  You 
can add or change anything you want, including adding these comments... ;-)

That's what I've been doing - although I've contributed very little to the 
lighting articles.

Charlie

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From: "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: wikipedia
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:36:29 -0000
Message-ID: <ODEMKLAMIBKNHPJLNKDPGEDPDEAA.deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-25296178 [at] prxy.net>

For info, Peter, the admin for the Blue Room forum, is looking at
constructing a theatre technical version of Wikipedia....

TD

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Charlie
> Richmond
> Sent: 01 November 2005 08:47
> To: Stagecraft
> Cc: Eagle194 [at] netscape.com
> Subject: Re: wikipedia
>
>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Tony Kambic wrote:
>
> > I think its funny Wikipedia is biased against Fresnels
> ("Fresnels are not
>
> Wikipedia is written by members of the public - anyone can edit
> articles - so
> what's there is simply what people who have chosen to write have
> written.  You
> can add or change anything you want, including adding these
> comments... ;-)
>
> That's what I've been doing - although I've contributed very
> little to the
> lighting articles.
>
> Charlie
>



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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:40:43 +0000 (GMT)
From: Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
Subject: Re: wikipedia
In-Reply-To: <list-25296524 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0511010940060.15092 [at] viscount.richmondsounddesign.com>
References: <list-25296524 [at] prxy.net>

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Tony Deeming wrote:

> For info, Peter, the admin for the Blue Room forum, is looking at
> constructing a theatre technical version of Wikipedia....

Why would one not just add to wikipedia?

Charlie

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From: "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: wikipedia
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:45:21 -0000
Message-ID: <ODEMKLAMIBKNHPJLNKDPIEEADEAA.deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-25296570 [at] prxy.net>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Charlie
> Richmond
> Sent: 01 November 2005 09:41
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: wikipedia
> 
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Tony Deeming wrote:
> 
> > For info, Peter, the admin for the Blue Room forum, is looking at
> > constructing a theatre technical version of Wikipedia....
> 
> Why would one not just add to wikipedia?
> 
> Charlie
> 

Dunno, but that's what he's looking at....!



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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:54:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
Subject: Re: wikipedia
In-Reply-To: <list-25296623 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0511010951520.15092 [at] viscount.richmondsounddesign.com>
References: <list-25296623 [at] prxy.net>

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Tony Deeming wrote:

> Dunno, but that's what he's looking at....!

Well, if he does it, we can just put links on the corresponding wiki pages 
;-)

BTW, I get Blue Room new subject notifications but the questions there are so 
incredibly basic (and often naive) that I have not been prompted to actually 
follow anything for months...

Charlie

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