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Re: LDI by Herrick Goldman 4. Re: LDI Lister's Meeting by LITETROL [at] aol.com 5. Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing by "Alf Sauve" 6. Re: LDI Lister's Meeting by Herrick Goldman 7. Re: Cat jokes by Jacqueline Haney Kidwell 8. Re: LDI Lister's Meeting by IAEG [at] aol.com 9. LDI - wireless dimming seminar by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 10. Re: Styrofoam by Chris Fretts 11. Re: LDI by "Michael S. Eddy" 12. Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) by "Michael Diederich" 13. Re: LDI by IAEG [at] aol.com 14. Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) by "Peter Scheu" 15. Philly area rental houses? by IAEG [at] aol.com 16. Re: Styrofoam by Steve Larson 17. Costume job opening by Tom Grabowski 18. Re: Styrofoam by Stephen Litterst 19. Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) by Greg Bierly 20. Keeping a pool warm (metamorphosis) by b Ricie 21. Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing by "Donald Robert Fox" 22. Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) by Delbert Hall 23. Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) by Bill Sapsis 24. Re: Philly area rental houses? by Bill Sapsis 25. UK Work by "Tom Hackman" 26. Server update by Jerry Durand 27. Holding fire in my hands by "Frank E. Merrill" 28. Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) by IAEG [at] aol.com 29. Re: Styrofoam by Jason Cowperthwaite 30. Re: Styrofoam by Steve Larson 31. Re: Holding fire in my hands by IAEG [at] aol.com 32. Re: UK Work by Bill Sapsis 33. Re: Holding fire in my hands by rokit at bellsouth dot net 34. Re: Holding fire in my hands by rokit at bellsouth dot net 35. Re: Holding fire in my hands by Art Corey 36. Re: Holding fire in my hands by "Ray-Pfeifer, Merel" 37. Re: Holding fire in my hands by Delbert Hall 38. Re: UK Work by Charlie Richmond 39. Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) by Bill Sapsis 40. Re: Catwalk Policy Advice by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 41. Re: Catwalk Policy Advice by Delbert Hall 42. Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 43. Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 44. Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing by "Michael Denison" 45. Wicked Tour-St. Louis by Nick Barnes 46. Re: Catwalk Policy Advice by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 47. Re: Holding fire in my hands by gary levinson 48. Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity notmixing by Dale Farmer 49. Finding Rights by MissWisc [at] aol.com 50. Re: Working alone and catwlaks by "Bill Conner" 51. Re: LDI by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com 52. Re: Styrofoam by "David Paul Stock" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051101051936.00b43390 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 05:19:36 From: CB Subject: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing >A pastor performing a baptism was electrocuted inside >his church The philosophical and theological possibilities are endless here, but I'll save those for a amore appropriate list. It isn't the water so much as it is the grounded plumbing and the water as a conductor. Anyone else in the water shoujld have been fine, but anyone in there touching the pastor would have stood a chance of electrocution. I carry a small 'pig sticker' on my belt to this day, from my old rock days, to disconnect guitarists from their amps if they grab a hot mic. It mostly just serves to remind me that AC can rear its ugly head where you least expect it sometimes. Curiosity leads me to ask why he got electrocuted this time, and never before? Anyone knowing anything about what changed from the previous baptisms to this one is encouraged to post... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051101052541.00b43390 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 05:25:41 From: CB Subject: Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing >There is, unfortunately, a lot of mythology out >there in the theatrical and show community about how >sound system power is special and has all these special >needs. ?!? No, sound doesn't require any special power attention, only clean sounding power. Yeah, if every manufacturer of sound equipment followed on particular method of grounding their gear, it wouldn't matter much, but until that happens, we'll have to bust hums, and we'll have to work harder if sound considerations aren't made when the facility is laid out or the distribution is planned. Fact of life. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:50:28 -0500 Subject: Re: LDI From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I'll be there from Wednesday afternoon thru Sunday afternoon. I'll be at the Rosebrand party as well. Also the Omni-Rosen-Brady-Bunch sunken bar is a convenient meeting point. The Peabody bar is just too small. Sadly both close at midnight. :P -H -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: LITETROL [at] aol.com Message-ID: <21e.189a3b3.3098bfa4 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 07:55:00 EST Subject: Re: LDI Lister's Meeting In a message dated 11/1/2005 7:51:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com writes: Also the Omni-Rosen-Brady-Bunch sunken bar is a convenient meeting point. The Peabody bar is just too small. Sadly both close at midnight. :P But, Herrick, the LDI floor closes at 6PM, yes? That sound like 6 hours to me! best, s. (Friday PM through Sunday Noon) steve [at] litetrol.com Lite-Trol Service Co., Inc. 485 West John Street Hicksville NY 11801 800 548 3876 516 681 7288 fax ------------------------------ Message-ID: <02e801c5dee3$de5c2390$6501a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" Cc: alf [at] sauve.org (Alf Sauve) Subject: Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 07:57:49 -0500 Being employeed as a TD at one church and an active volunteer at another, I have an interest finding out what happened. I'll continue to monitor. Here's the latest from University Baptist Church: (www.ubswaco.org) Alf ================================================== Dated: October 31, 2005; 4 :00 p.m. The congregation of University Baptist Church continues to mourn the loss of its pastor Kyle Lake as a result of an accidental electrocution at services on Sunday, October 30, 2005. The determination of the cause of the accident is being reviewed by technical professionals and authorities. We have no further information available to us at this time about the cause of this tragedy. As a result of the need to allow for the evaluation of the facilities and this accident, Sunday services for November 6, 2005 for University Baptist Church will be moved to the chapel at Truett Seminary. Our focus at this time is to mourn the loss of Kyle Lake and to celebrate his life with his family, the University Baptist Church congregation and the community. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:12:44 -0500 Subject: Re: LDI Lister's Meeting From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Yes? Your point being? Have you met your fellow listers? 6 hours is just a warm up. On 11/1/05 7:55 AM, "LITETROL [at] aol.com" wrote: > > > But, Herrick, the LDI floor closes at 6PM, yes? That sound like 6 hours to > me! > > best, s. (Friday PM through Sunday Noon) > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20051101131604.81147.qmail [at] web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 05:16:03 -0800 (PST) From: Jacqueline Haney Kidwell Subject: Re: Cat jokes In-Reply-To: So sorry, everyone. I meant this to be a private response--I shouldn't try to post after a tech rehearsal. Jacki --- Jacqueline Haney Kidwell wrote: > > --- "Ray-Pfeifer, Merel" wrote: > > > Some of us feline fanciers actually enjoyed the > > slight diversion. I sent __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:16:16 EST Subject: Re: LDI Lister's Meeting In a message dated 11/1/05 8:13:41 AM, Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com writes: << Yes? Your point being? Have you met your fellow listers? 6 hours is just a warm up. >> i will be a good boy, , , as I will most likely be hitting the 98 mile road back home direct from the bar very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Cc: Show-Control [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: LDI - wireless dimming seminar Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:29:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20051101133004.CCMR1799.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> Hi everyone. Ian Phillips of Shaw Festival, and myself, will be presenting the wireless dimming seminar at LDI in Orlando this year. This is specifically NOT a brand promotion. We will be discussing radio (spread spectrum, narrow band, various frequencies, response patterns, antennas), batteries (types, charging cycles, maintenance), safe wiring of low voltage/high amperage circuits, and more. This seminar is on Fiday Nov. 11 from 4pm to 5:30pm (subject to change, please confirm on site). Numerous handouts will be provided. To ensure we have enough copies of everything, please let me know you will be attending at mailto:seminars [at] theatrewireless.com. Thanks! Jim Smith www.theatrewireless.com/seminars.htm ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: Chris Fretts Subject: RE:Styrofoam Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:46:13 -0500 Jason Cowperthwaite wrote: >Anyone have any sources for large blocks of white bead styrofoam? We >are looking for several that are approx. 10'x3'x3'. Sources in the >MD, DC, VA area would be best. I get my large blocks of white beadfoam and custom foam molding profiles from Cellofoam. They have a branch here in Indiananpolis as well as one in Virginia listed below. Not exactly the DC area I know, but I have found them to be very quick and helpful. www.cellofoam.com 33 Baron Park Road., FALMOUTH, VA 22405 Toll FREE (800) 288-7663 FAX (540) 899-5429 Chris Fretts Technical Director Indiana Repertory Theatre ------------------------------ Message-ID: Reply-To: From: "Michael S. Eddy" Subject: RE: LDI Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:51:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: Herrick wrote: > I'll be there from Wednesday afternoon thru Sunday afternoon. I'll be at the > Rosebrand party as well. Also the Omni-Rosen-Brady-Bunch sunken bar is a > convenient meeting point. The Peabody bar is just too small. Sadly both > close at midnight. :P > While Herrick, like many of us, plan our social-networking out well in advance, here is a word of caution, information, or whatever. There are two Rosen hotels: The Rosen Centre (formerly the Omni) with its Brady- Bunch sunken bar, where I wiled away many a brain cell, and the Rosen Plaza. The Rosen Plaza is at the other end of the convention center and is the show hotel as well as the ESTA hotel. The Rosen Centre, while closer to the LDI show is apparently not an "official LDI hotel". So, who names two hotels that are adjacent to a convention center Rosen? And, which hotel is the hotel of choice for the stagecrafters? I'm at the Rosen Plaza and are preparing for the fun hike! Enquiring minds, ya know. Michael S. Eddy Eddy Marketing & Consulting mseddy2900 [at] hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:54:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Michael Diederich" >>>> But do not rely on the rope lock to hold you, especially if you have a long lanyard. The shock load of a person falling 6 feet is pretty staggering. Could go as high as 2500 pounds.<<<< I'm having an issue with this coming up in a couple of weeks. A group is being brought in to do an acrobatic performance and for one act they want to tie off a safety line on one performer. They assured the person who booked the event that they do this very often without problems, so he is on board with the stunt. I was a little worried about the shock load possibilities (it's a safety line but I assume it will have a pretty decent amount of slack so they can still perform) but the events coordinator here keeps assuring me they do this all the time, so it's ok. I finally told them to go ahead because nothing I said was convincing them it could be a bad idea. Sure, if the guy doesn't fall everything is fine, but he might fall...hence the safety line! I did say that I take no responsibility for anything that may happen to either performer or equipment but that isn't going to help me too much if someone wants to drag my name into this. The best quote of all the conversations we had about this: "You said the rope lock would hold 150 pounds...this guy is only 120 pounds...do the math." I actually laughed, which only made him angry, but I couldn't help it. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <9f.6b33d30c.3098cf66 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:02:14 EST Subject: Re: LDI In a message dated 11/1/05 8:53:26 AM, mseddy2900 [at] hotmail.com writes: << So, who names two hotels that are adjacent to a convention center Rosen? >> Mr. Rosen did very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Subject: RE: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:15:15 -0500 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: In-reply-to: Michael Diederich wrote: >The best quote of all the conversations we had about this: >"You said the rope lock would hold 150 pounds...this guy is >only 120 pounds...do the math." I actually laughed, which only >made him angry, but I couldn't help it. Have HIM do the math... The assumptions are 120 lbs, falling 6 feet, and let's assume the amount of "slop" in the systems (rigging and fall arrest) stops him in 6" (which may be generous). 120 lb x 72 in = 8,640 lb / 6 in = 1,440 lb + 120 lb = 1,560 lb. *** [(WxDf)/Ds]+W *** Gee... Only just over 10 times the recommended working load of the rope lock. Close enough? Right? ;-) Assume you'll tie that lineset off to some part of the building (not the locking rail), that's been OK'd by an engineer. Peter Scheu Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Syracuse, NY www.scheuconsulting.com ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <6d.50bcbe2a.3098d6c0 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:33:36 EST Subject: Philly area rental houses? Friends, , with the demise of McMANUS, I need some reccomendations for Philadelphia area rental houses for a Philly suburb area Nutcracker. my needs aren't great, some Source Four pars, , some basic old fashioned side arms, a couple of dry ice style foggers, , etc any suggestions ? very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 09:31:11 -0500 Subject: Re: Styrofoam From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Falmouth is on the north side of Fredericksburg just across the Rappahannock River. This is only 45 miles south of DC on 95, which I'll bet you already know. Atlantic Foam is located on the south side of Fredericksburg. Field trip! Steve > From: Chris Fretts > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:46:13 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Styrofoam > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Jason Cowperthwaite wrote: > >> Anyone have any sources for large blocks of white bead styrofoam? We >> are looking for several that are approx. 10'x3'x3'. Sources in the >> MD, DC, VA area would be best. > > I get my large blocks of white beadfoam and custom foam molding profiles > from Cellofoam. They have a branch here in Indiananpolis as well as one in > Virginia listed below. Not exactly the DC area I know, but I have found > them to be very quick and helpful. > > www.cellofoam.com > 33 Baron Park Road., FALMOUTH, VA 22405 > Toll FREE (800) 288-7663 FAX (540) 899-5429 > > Chris Fretts > Technical Director > Indiana Repertory Theatre ------------------------------ From: Tom Grabowski Subject: Costume job opening Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:44:46 -0600 Message-ID: <20051101084446921.00000002516 [at] TGRABOWSKI> Here is A costume job opening that we have at the University of Texas-Pan = American. Could you please send it on the anyone you think might be intere= sted. Thanks. ASSISTANT PROFESSOR, COSTUME DESIGN University of Texas - Pan American = University of Texas - Pan American F05/06-03 Department Of Communication. U= TPA is seeking a Designer/Costumer for the Theatre Television Film area wit= hin the Communication Department. This is a tenure track position, with bot= h teaching and design responsibilities and full benefits. UTPA has both gra= duate (MA) and undergraduate programs in Theatre. The TTF Area has a curren= t total of 7 full-time faculty and a staff of 2.5, approximately 100 underg= raduate majors and 10 graduate students. The production facilities include = a 297 seat thrust theatre, and a 60 x60 black box 2 TV studios supported by= well-equipped scenic and costume shops. RESPONSIBILITIES: Coordination/des= ign of all costume production for a 4 show main stage season. Supervision o= f student workers and upkeep of the costume shop and stock. Teaching respon= sibilities include costuming and make-up classes with the potential for cla= sses in other areas of expertise. Experience in other areas such as publici= ty/graphics design, business management or children's theatre is a plus. = QUALIFICATIONS: MFA in Costume Design/Production with at least one year of = University level teaching preferred, Experience and skills in sewing, costu= me painting, cutting and draping required. Ability to teach university leve= l courses is required. Experience in computer assisted design desired. Port= folio and/or evidence of design and costume construction work will be requi= red of candidate to be interviewed. Professionalism, good leadership, organ= izational skills and a commitment to the collaborative process is essential= . APPOINTMENT DATE: By September 1, 2006, or until position is filled. AA/E= OE: UTPA is an AA/EOE employer. APPLICATION: Send letter of application, re= sumes/vita and three letters of recommendation to: Search Committee Chair C= /O Dr. Salma Ghanem; Chair, Department of Communication; The University of = Texas-Pan American 1; 1201 W. University Drive; Edinburg, Texas 78541. For = more information contact Marian Monta at 956-381-3586, 956-381-2187 Fax or = monta [at] panam.edu, or visit the departmental web page at www.panam.edu/dept/c= omm UTPA Theatre is accredited by NAST and TETA. = -- = Tom Grabowski University of Texas-Pan American Designer Communication Department Tomgrab [at] UTPA.edu Edinburg, Texas 78541 956/381-3588 FAX 956/318-2187 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 09:46:17 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Styrofoam In-reply-to: Message-id: <3118.172.164.210.177.1130856377.squirrel [at] 172.164.210.177> References: > --------------------------------------------------- > > Falmouth is on the north side of Fredericksburg > just across the Rappahannock River. This is > only 45 miles south of DC on 95, which I'll > bet you already know. So that's what, a 2 hour trip? One way? Steve L. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:00:12 -0500 Bill Sapsis wrote: > Anybody see the Today Show this morning? We did a rappelling thing > with Al > Roeker and Mat Lawer (sp?) It was good fun and they were great sports > to > try this stunt. Not every one can take that leap of faith and lean > out over > the edge of a building like that. The rappelling part would be easy for many of us, the dressing up like superheros on national TV would be the difficult part for me (an many other introverts that prefer the behind the scenes). I couldn't help but wonder how much the production, stunts, set, costumes, props, etc cost for the Today show Halloween Costume segment. They spent a pretty penny on some good gags. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20051101150642.64923.qmail [at] web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 07:06:42 -0800 (PST) From: b Ricie Subject: Keeping a pool warm (metamorphosis) In-Reply-To: I designed and built Metamorphosis a few years back. The pool was 12'x18'x2'. We were able to maintain a water temperature of 70 no problem using a small (5gal) water heater. The "TRICK" to getting the water hot enough is you have to keep it in the water heater long enough to heat. If you just circulate water it will warm and it will take forever. We added a timer into the equation. With the timer in place the water would circulate for 15 min then the water would heat for 15min then back to circulate. By the time the actors were ready to hit the water it was a cozy 70. Beware of the discharge hose. Depending on how hot the thermostat is in the water heater the water might be a bit hot. Covering the pool is also very important for reasons other than heat retention. How secure is the room? Are you in a school? If so, you might consider a pool alarm or some way of making sure no one tampers with your pool when no one is around. (one floater or that can of dye can ruin your day). You also might want to consider using dehumidifiers and fans between shows to keep moisture in the floor and soft good under control. Water gets heavy, make sure the floor you are building on can handle the weight. We used a pond liner for our pool. The liner worked great and the garden shop gave us a terrific discount. Garden shops also have all sorts of pondy stuff and their staff can be a good resource for research. You might need more than a filter to keep the pool clean, a few pool skim nets are a big help as is a pool clarifyer. (clarifyer helps the small particulate matter to clump together for easy removal.) Have your crew do a good clean up at the end of the show. Standing water on your show deck will cause the wood to degrade causing a splintering danger. Less standing water will lessen the chance. Best of luck, it is a fun show. Brian Rice 508-685-0716 b_ricie [at] yahoo.com "Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the light." __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Donald Robert Fox" Subject: RE: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:26:40 +0000


Spoke to a collegue in Waco who is familiar with teh church and said that he actually slipped while in the batismal.




Donald Robert Fox, M.F.A.
USA-AEA-IALD
Asst. Professor of Design
University of the Incarnate Word
Dept. of Theatre Arts

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>A pastor performing a baptism was electrocuted inside
>his church

The philosophical and theological possibilities are endless here, but I'll
save those for a amore appropriate list.  It isn't the water so much as it
is the grounded plumbing and the water as a conductor.  Anyone else in the
water shoujld have been fine, but anyone in there touching the pastor would
have stood a chance of electrocution.
I carry a small 'pig sticker' on my belt to this day, from my old rock
days, to disconnect guitarists from their amps if they grab a hot mic.  It
mostly just serves to remind me that AC can rear its ugly head where you
least expect it sometimes.
Curiosity leads me to ask why he got electrocuted this time, and never
before?  Anyone knowing anything about what changed from the previous
baptisms to this one is encouraged to post...
Chris "Chris" Babbie
Location Sound
MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...
------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:34:15 -0500 From: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) In-Reply-To: References: Anybody who deals with flying performers knows that the rope lock will not hold in this situation. The solution is to "chain" the arbor to locking rail. Now the chain (or cable, or ratchet strap, or whatever) is holding the load, not the rope lock. In the case you describe you want that "safety" to be VERY close to a lift cable, otherwise the batten will be bent if the performer falls. -Delbert On 11/1/05, Michael Diederich wrote: > I'm having an issue with this coming up in a couple of weeks. A group is > being brought in to do an acrobatic performance and for one act they > want to tie off a safety line on one performer. They assured the person > who booked the event that they do this very often without problems, so > he is on board with the stunt. I was a little worried about the shock > load possibilities (it's a safety line but I assume it will have a > pretty decent amount of slack so they can still perform) but the events > coordinator here keeps assuring me they do this all the time, so it's > ok. I finally told them to go ahead because nothing I said was > convincing them it could be a bad idea. Sure, if the guy doesn't fall > everything is fine, but he might fall...hence the safety line! I did say > that I take no responsibility for anything that may happen to either > performer or equipment but that isn't going to help me too much if > someone wants to drag my name into this. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:40:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Yes, they do. Fortunately, in this case they spent some of it with me. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 11/1/05 10:00 AM, "Greg Bierly" wrote: > The rappelling part would be easy for many of us, the dressing up like > superheros on national TV would be the difficult part for me (an many > other introverts that prefer the behind the scenes). I couldn't help > but wonder how much the production, stunts, set, costumes, props, etc > cost for the Today show Halloween Costume segment. They spent a pretty > penny on some good gags. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:41:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Philly area rental houses? From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mainlight in Wilmington DE Starlight in New Jersey. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 11/1/05 9:33 AM, "IAEG [at] aol.com" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Friends, , with the demise of McMANUS, > > I need some reccomendations for Philadelphia area rental houses for a Philly > suburb area Nutcracker. > > my needs aren't great, some Source Four pars, , some basic old fashioned > side arms, a couple of dry ice style foggers, , etc > > any suggestions ? > > > very best, > > Keith Arsenault > > IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group > Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-ID: <005201c5defc$883b26f0$87d11ed8 [at] Hackman1> From: "Tom Hackman" References: Subject: UK Work Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:54:19 -0500 Hello Listers, I have an academic advisee (a Design and Technical Theatre major) who spent last spring semester in London. While there, she developed ... an attachment, that's a good term for him. Consequently, she is interested in returning to the UK to live and work after her graduation in May. Does anybody have any suggestions for handling immigration, job searches, etc? Anybody need a dedicated, if somewhat experience-limited, technician in London? TIA Tom Hackman TD/Scene Designer Davis & Elkins College Elkins, WV ------------------------------ Message-Id: <10C03EBD-F7E0-4618-9E9C-D54E330A9D8B [at] interstellar.com> From: Jerry Durand Subject: Server update Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 07:54:31 -0800 I'm downloading the Mac OS X 10.4.3 major update right now, if our server disappears you'll know what happened. It actually froze twice for 30 seconds at a time while I was typing this. Hope it works... -- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:57:34 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <669322492.20051101105734 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Holding fire in my hands O Wise Oracles, I beseech thee yet again.... It is time for my annual spectacular lighting of an outdoor bonfire, and I thank all of the suggestions I got last year for the "Finger-of-God-lights-the-fire" effect. THIS year I'm thinking of summoning some great unseen power to form a ball of fire in my outstretched hands, and then lay that ball of fire into the pyre pile. Oh yeah: I'd rather not sacrifice the flesh of my hands and arms for the sake of the effect. At this point, I'm thinking of a ball of limestone soaked in kerosene and mounted in a wooden ice-cream-cone shaped doohickey containing a 9-volt battery which excites a squib when a concealed circuit is completed.... Any better ideas? Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.60 mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <19a.40178a3c.3098eaff [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:59:59 EST Subject: Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) In a message dated 11/1/05 10:42:31 AM, bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com writes: << Yes, they do. Fortunately, in this case they spent some of it with me. >> then Bill, , , next time you're working with the TODAY show folks,,teach them to lay a vinyl dance floor, their segment with the Rockettes this morning was embarrasing how badly the floor looked, , very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3eb8da960511010759v74b4a89flb3c79efa749b03e [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:59:22 -0500 From: Jason Cowperthwaite Subject: Re: Styrofoam In-Reply-To: References: Thanks for the sources. They all look great... now to get them to price war w/ each other so I can get the foam w/in budget ;) Jason Cowperthwaite On 11/1/05, Stephen Litterst wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Falmouth is on the north side of Fredericksburg > > just across the Rappahannock River. This is > > only 45 miles south of DC on 95, which I'll > > bet you already know. > > So that's what, a 2 hour trip? One way? > > Steve L. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:03:18 -0500 Subject: Re: Styrofoam From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Depends when you try it. 5 pm headed south on weekdays is tough. I would often kick over to US 1 and beat the traffic. Sunday 5 pm headed north is the worst. Steve > From: Stephen Litterst > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 09:46:17 -0500 (EST) > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Styrofoam > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Falmouth is on the north side of Fredericksburg >> just across the Rappahannock River. This is >> only 45 miles south of DC on 95, which I'll >> bet you already know. > > So that's what, a 2 hour trip? One way? > > Steve L. > ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1df.477f6896.3098ee59 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:14:17 EST Subject: Re: Holding fire in my hands In a message dated 11/1/05 11:07:28 AM, Lamplighter [at] tcon.net writes: << Oh yeah: I'd rather not sacrifice the flesh of my hands and arms for the sake of the effect. At this point, I'm thinking of a ball of limestone soaked in kerosene and mounted in a wooden ice-cream-cone shaped doohickey containing a 9-volt battery which excites a squib when a concealed circuit is completed.... Any better ideas? >> can you say Zel Gel ? ( not certain of a souce for this, but there are probably those on the list who do know of one ) very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:19:16 -0500 Subject: Re: UK Work From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: She should contact the ABTT. They should be able to help her. Tell them I sent her. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 11/1/05 10:54 AM, "Tom Hackman" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello Listers, > I have an academic advisee (a Design and Technical Theatre major) who spent > last spring semester in London. While there, she developed ... an > attachment, that's a good term for him. Consequently, she is interested in > returning to the UK to live and work after her graduation in May. Does > anybody have any suggestions for handling immigration, job searches, etc? > Anybody need a dedicated, if somewhat experience-limited, technician in > London? > TIA > > Tom Hackman > TD/Scene Designer > Davis & Elkins College > Elkins, WV > ------------------------------ From: rokit at bellsouth dot net Subject: Re: Holding fire in my hands Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:18:52 -0600 Message-Id: <20051101161852.XWXE7203.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net [at] mail.bellsouth.net> I'm interested in hearing the "Finger of God Lights The Fire" story, myself! So if you guys would reiterate, it sounds like a neat way of starting our Madrigal Dinner this year! ------------------------------ From: rokit at bellsouth dot net Subject: Re: Holding fire in my hands Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:18:52 -0600 Message-Id: <20051101161852.XWXE7203.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net [at] mail.bellsouth.net> I'm interested in hearing the "Finger of God Lights The Fire" story, myself! So if you guys would reiterate, it sounds like a neat way of starting our Madrigal Dinner this year! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43679922.4000404 [at] cox.net> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:34:42 -0600 From: Art Corey Subject: Re: Holding fire in my hands References: In-Reply-To: Sounds sort of like an Olympic torch. How about a safety refinement to your idea? Fill the base of the cone with Sterno jellied fuel, and reduce the amount of kerosene. The kerosene will be the showy part of the flame, then the sterno will burn longer and not be quite so likely to splash about. Guy Fawkes would be proud. Regards, Art Corey Frank E. Merrill wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >O Wise Oracles, I beseech thee yet again.... > >It is time for my annual spectacular lighting of an outdoor bonfire, >and I thank all of the suggestions I got last year for the >"Finger-of-God-lights-the-fire" effect. > >THIS year I'm thinking of summoning some great unseen power to form a >ball of fire in my outstretched hands, and then lay that ball of fire >into the pyre pile. > >Oh yeah: I'd rather not sacrifice the flesh of my hands and arms for >the sake of the effect. > >At this point, I'm thinking of a ball of limestone soaked in kerosene >and mounted in a wooden ice-cream-cone shaped doohickey containing a >9-volt battery which excites a squib when a concealed circuit is >completed.... > >Any better ideas? > >Best regards, > Frank E. Merrill > MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT > Indianapolis > Established 1946 > www.merrillstage.com > > Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.60 mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:45:24 -0500 Subject: Re: Holding fire in my hands From: "Ray-Pfeifer, Merel" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: There is a product out there, I know it as fickle fire. It is a metal box that houses a zippo type flint and a pad that is soaked in lighter fluid. Magic item that looks like you are holding a ball of flame in your hand. To extinguish you flip the lid closed. Very simple to use, looks real good too. . Thomas James Productions in Terre Haute hooked me up with it a few years back. But you may also be able to find one through a magic trick supplier. -- Merel Ray-Pfeifer Technical Director Dept of Speech Comm. & Dramatic Arts Central Michigan University Mt Pleasant, MI 48858 989/774-6594 On 11/1/05 10:57 AM, "Frank E. Merrill" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > O Wise Oracles, I beseech thee yet again.... > > It is time for my annual spectacular lighting of an outdoor bonfire, > and I thank all of the suggestions I got last year for the > "Finger-of-God-lights-the-fire" effect. > > THIS year I'm thinking of summoning some great unseen power to form a > ball of fire in my outstretched hands, and then lay that ball of fire > into the pyre pile. > > Oh yeah: I'd rather not sacrifice the flesh of my hands and arms for > the sake of the effect. > > At this point, I'm thinking of a ball of limestone soaked in kerosene > and mounted in a wooden ice-cream-cone shaped doohickey containing a > 9-volt battery which excites a squib when a concealed circuit is > completed.... > > Any better ideas? > > Best regards, > Frank E. Merrill > MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT > Indianapolis > Established 1946 > www.merrillstage.com > > Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.60 > mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:52:24 -0500 From: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: Holding fire in my hands In-Reply-To: References: Talk to Mark Dirksie at Action Specialist (http://actionspecialists.com/) about Action Fire Gel. We set Mark on fire in May and it was a lot for fun to watch him burn for 45 seconds -Delbert -- Delbert L. Hall ZFX Flying Director Phone: 714-585-7070 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:55:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: UK Work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Tom Hackman wrote: > the UK to live and work after her graduation in May. Does anybody have any > suggestions for handling immigration, job searches, etc? Anybody need a Direct mail to you bounced back by your spam filter. Clear me for communication and I will provide more information... ;-) Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:16:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Fall arrest on a pipe batten (was Catwalk Policy Advise) From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Yeah, Peter's right. The locking rail is designed for approximately 200 pounds of uplift per linear ft. Assuming, of course, that it's anchored in to the floor properly. You should have something designed as an anchorage point. The point I was trying to make was that you really want to limit the fall distance, and hence, the force created by the fall, to as little as possible. If you only need a 3 ' lanyard then use only a 3' lanyard. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 11/1/05 9:15 AM, "Peter Scheu" wrote: > Assume you'll tie that lineset off to some part of the building (not the > locking rail), that's been OK'd by an engineer. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <140.4fb3c9f6.30990acc [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:15:40 EST Subject: Re: Catwalk Policy Advice In a message dated 01/11/05 02:24:14 GMT Standard Time, delbert.hall [at] gmail.com writes: > > Falling off the catwalk should be substantially impossible. > > Unfortunately for him, John Horvat at Seneca Valley High School proved > that your statement above to be completely untrue. Read the words. "Should be" is a statement of intent. "Substantially impossible" means very difficult to do inadvertently, and with normal use. I have a strong dislike of being told that I am a liar, when it is not true. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:30:52 -0500 From: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: Catwalk Policy Advice In-Reply-To: References: Frank, I did not call you a "liar" I said that your statement was unture (you are mistaken). Lots of catwalks cannot be made so that it is "substantially impossible" to fall off of them without making them impractical for the purposes for which they are intended. I have never seen a loading rail which was "substantially impossible" to fall off of, have you? Because it is possible to fall from these locations, workers should wear fall protection. This does not reduce the chances of falling, but it does reduce the chances of dying as the result of a fall. -Delbert On 11/1/05, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 01/11/05 02:24:14 GMT Standard Time, > delbert.hall [at] gmail.com writes: > > > > Falling off the catwalk should be substantially impossible. > > > > Unfortunately for him, John Horvat at Seneca Valley High School proved > > that your statement above to be completely untrue. > > Read the words. "Should be" is a statement of intent. "Substantially > impossible" means very difficult to do inadvertently, and with normal use= . > > I have a strong dislike of being told that I am a liar, when it is not tr= ue. > > > Frank Wood > ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <232.15bed4.30991192 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:44:34 EST Subject: Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing In a message dated 01/11/05 12:21:46 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > >A pastor performing a baptism was electrocuted inside > >his church Pure bad installation. All exposed metalwork MUST be securely earthed. This includes microphone bodies, and there are no exceptions to this rule. In this case, somebody made one, and is responsible for the Pastor's death. Many guitarists and singers have been killed by their equipment. Lifting earths is often a quick fix for hum problems, but it should never, never ever, be done. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:50:05 EST Subject: Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing In a message dated 01/11/05 12:27:31 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > ?!? No, sound doesn't require any special power attention, only clean > sounding power. Yeah, if every manufacturer of sound equipment followed on > particular method of grounding their gear, it wouldn't matter much, but > until that happens, we'll have to bust hums, and we'll have to work harder > if sound considerations aren't made when the facility is laid out or the > distribution is planned. Fact of life. It isn't hard to do. The important thing is that the safety earth should not ever be a part of the signal path. The design of the earth system needs as much consideration as does that of the signal paths. It often doesn't get it. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43676CF9.24421.21DD0B6 [at] localhost> From: "Michael Denison" Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:26:17 -0600 Subject: Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity not mixing Reply-To: In-Reply-To: References: What's a "pig sticker"? > I carry a small 'pig sticker' on my belt to this day, from my old rock > days, to disconnect guitarists from their amps if they grab a hot mic. Michael A. Denison Technical Director Cottey College 1000 West Austin Nevada, MO 64772 (417) 667-8181 x 2265 FAX: (417) 667-8103 mdenison [at] cottey.edu www.cottey.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20051101195354.1394.qmail [at] web32605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:53:54 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Barnes Subject: Wicked Tour-St. Louis Hello, I'm a looooong time lurker and first time poster, so I hope this works correctly. I'm wondering if anybody on the list happens to either be on or know anybody on the Wicked tour coming thru St. Louis' Fox Theatre in a few weeks. I recently graduated from St. Louis University and am just wondering if I could get a sneek peak at how this particular show works. I have tickets to the last performance in town, but I can head down at any time. There would of course be a frosty adult beverage in it for the "tour guide" or anybody else who can help. Thanks, Nick Barnes Production Manager Meet This Old House Tour/US Concepts Cell: 847-989-8885 nabarnes [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <144.5108af90.30995d60 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:08:00 EST Subject: Re: Catwalk Policy Advice In a message dated 01/11/05 18:33:20 GMT Standard Time, delbert.hall [at] gmail.com writes: > Frank, I did not call you a "liar" I said that your statement was > unture (you are mistaken). I find it difficult to draw a distinction between making an untrue statement and telling a lie. Returning to the topic, I think that you would be hard pressed to fall off ours, without a deliberate intention or wilful foolishness. If you were to climb to the outside of them, the bets are off. I have seen it done, for difficult rigging of a set, but with a harness. We have few suicidal riggers, although an 18' fall onto an even surface is unlikely to be fatal. Remember that a parachute jump is equivalaent to coming off a 12' wall. Not something I want to do, but I know how to fall. Frank Wood ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <93ae4a01a940baa926e33a62aced6f34 [at] earthlink.net> From: gary levinson Subject: Re: Holding fire in my hands Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 20:51:53 -0500 Stepping out from lurk mode - gary zeller's website is http://www.zeller-int.com/zellermain.htm (zel gel is his invention) gary levinson back to lurk... On Nov 1, 2005, at 11:14 AM, IAEG [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > In a message dated 11/1/05 11:07:28 AM, Lamplighter [at] tcon.net writes: > > << > Oh yeah: I'd rather not sacrifice the flesh of my hands and arms for > the sake of the effect. > > At this point, I'm thinking of a ball of limestone soaked in kerosene > and mounted in a wooden ice-cream-cone shaped doohickey containing a > 9-volt battery which excites a squib when a concealed circuit is > completed.... > > Any better ideas? >> > > > > can you say Zel Gel ? > > ( not certain of a souce for this, but there are probably those on the > list > who do know of one ) > > very best, > > Keith Arsenault > > IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group > Tampa, Florida > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4368213A.F4F3686B [at] cybercom.net> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:15:22 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Another unfortunate case of water and electricity notmixing References: Michael Denison wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > What's a "pig sticker"? > > > I carry a small 'pig sticker' on my belt to this day, from my old rock > > days, to disconnect guitarists from their amps if they grab a hot mic. When you said pig sticker, I thought of a medium sized knife. Just the right size to execute a full grown pig before they realize what I just did to it, and decide to take me with him. While there *are* one or two guitarists I've met who would improve the world if they were to encounter one, I doubt that was what you meant. --Dale ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 21:50:56 EST Subject: Finding Rights Is there a comprehensive list of companies who administer theatrical performing rights (Samuel French, MTI, etc?) Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000201c5df5a$82891600$aa80a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: RE: Working alone and catwlaks Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:35:16 -0600 I was about to take offense at Doom's statement "and so many catwalks are death traps in the theaters in this country" but perhaps they are. I endeavor to assure convenient and very high quality technical circulation and access in buildings I consult on, meaning no ducts or braces to duck or crawl under, good and convenient illumination, regulation compliant railings, and so on. I obviously see and experience catwalks in these facilities more than average facilities. So, maybe Doom is correct in proclaiming many catwalks in entertainment facilities "death traps". Still, I don't find many incidents reported where someone has been injured or killed in connection with proper use of catwalks, so what is the story? Having been a proponent for many code changes that impact the design of catwalks, what's not working and what is working? Where are the incidents that result in injury? Thanks. Bill Conner ------------------------------ From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1d8.49324695.309994f5 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:05:09 EST Subject: Re: LDI In a message dated 11/1/2005 8:53:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, mseddy2900 [at] hotmail.com writes: >So, who names two hotels that are adjacent to a convention center Rosen? Mr. Rosen, who owns the hotels. Steve Vanciel Orlando, FL ------------------------------ From: "David Paul Stock" Subject: RE: Styrofoam Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 00:01:46 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Jason, Try Calling the Shakespeare theatre in DC and ask for Becky or Chester. They use a company out of Baltimore that make foam cubes and may be able to help you. I don't know the company name off hand so try and pester the folks at Shakes.. in DC. They used some fairly large blocks of bead foam to construct the bed for that Scottish tale. Their # is 301-927-3147 Good Luck, -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Jason Cowperthwaite Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:58 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Styrofoam For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hi folks, Anyone have any sources for large blocks of white bead styrofoam? We are looking for several that are approx. 10'x3'x3'. Sources in the MD, DC, VA area would be best. Thanks! Jason Cowperthwaite ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #570 *****************************