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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 25364244; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:01:09 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #573 Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:00:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, TW_WH autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #573 1. Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Falling distance by "Alf Sauve" 2. Re: Noises Off - - mock fish oil by "Alf Sauve" 3. Pre-show Announcement by "Dana Taylor" 4. Re: Pre-show Announcement by Greg Williams 5. Re: Pre-show Announcement by "Alf Sauve" 6. Overhire electrician -- NYC by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 7. Re: How to quiet a fog machine? by Richard Bakos 8. Re: Pre-show Announcement by "Stephen E. Rees" 9. Re: Alibi(s) by Loren Schreiber 10. Playing Well by Paul Marsland 11. Re: Falling distance by "Paul Schreiner" 12. Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Falling distance by "Paul Schreiner" 13. Re: Pre-show Announcement by "Matthew Breton" 14. E-rope by "Abby Downing" 15. Re: Falling distance by CB 16. Texas Ballet Theatre by CB 17. Airline Seats by Steve Boone 18. Re: Scrim costs... by "Frank E. Merrill" 19. House Heads/Show Heads by CB 20. Re[2]: Scrim costs... by "Frank E. Merrill" 21. Re: Airline Seats by Dale Farmer 22. Re: Airline Seats by "Frank E. Merrill" 23. Re: Falling distance by CB 24. Trucking by "Joe Golden" 25. Re: Re[2]: Scrim costs... by Bill Sapsis 26. Re: Re[2]: Scrim costs... by Jerry Durand 27. Re: Trucking by Greg Bierly 28. Re: Airline Seats by Steve Larson 29. Re: Airline Seats by Andrew Vance 30. Re: Trucking by "Joe Golden" 31. Re: Falling distance by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 32. Re: House crew vs. local heads by "Ehrenberg, Steven" 33. Re: Airline Seats by "Michael Denison" 34. Re: Airline Seats by John McKernon 35. airline seats on eBay by Steve Larson 36. Re: Falling distance by Greg Williams 37. Re: House crew vs. local heads by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 38. Re: Falling distance by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <045801c5e132$a4a04b30$6501a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Falling distance Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 06:26:40 -0500 And that would be a mere 77,522 furlongs per fortnight? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wolpert" > > Vmph = 28.84 > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <045701c5e132$a473e400$6501a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" Subject: Re: Noises Off - - mock fish oil Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 06:26:18 -0500 I also used Zoom, not their "lures", their "bait" which doesn't have any hooks. Zoom's web site is down but here's a link to a similar product by Berkley. http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?varTextId=59453&hvarDept=151&hvarEvent=&hvarClassCode=4&hvarSubCode=5&hvarTarget=browse Alf Life is getting the sardines on the stage and off the stage. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken" > To: "Stagecraft" > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:29 PM> Subject: Re: Noises Off - - mock fish oil>>>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------->>>> > local Walmart.>>>>> I second this advice. These lures already come with some type of oil onthem>> to preserve them. You'd of course have to snip off the hook, but thatshould>> be no problem.>> These lures look very real. If you have a hard time finding any at this>> point of the season, i've got a very large tackle box full of them! Ialso>> agree with the no oil on stage (less to clean up)>>>> Kenneth Pogin>> Production Manager>> Minnesota (land of 10,000 Lakes) Ballet>>> ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:35:34 -0600 From: "Dana Taylor" Subject: Pre-show Announcement Hello: We are being directed by the local fire marshall to update our pre-show = announcements. Specifically, updating those statements in regard to fire = evacuation. Is anyone aware of standard wording that should be used or even an example = of what you use in your venue.=20 Thanks in advance. Dana Taylor Dana W. Taylor Mt. Vernon Sr. High School 812.838.4356 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <342B249E-0506-4202-A2EE-9CD82F418A9F [at] appstate.edu> From: Greg Williams Subject: Re: Pre-show Announcement Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 07:44:14 -0500 On Nov 4, 2005, at 7:35 AM, Dana Taylor wrote: > Hello: > > We are being directed by the local fire marshall to update our pre- > show announcements. Specifically, updating those statements in > regard to fire evacuation. > > Is anyone aware of standard wording that should be used or even an > example of what you use in your venue. > > Thanks in advance. We include statements to the effect that "at this time, we'd ask you to take a look around the facility, and locate the exit signs. In the highly unlikely event of an emergency, you'd be asked to exit the doors beneath those signs. Please remember the door you use in that situation might not be the door you entered." If you have questions about specific wording, ask the fire marshal what he or she wants included. We also occasionally ask patrons "at this time, please turn off all cell phones, pagers, candy wrappers, and small children... the first 3 may be left with the box office manager if you wish." -=Greg Williams=- Production Manager Valborg Theatre, Appalachian State University www.LRLR.org - 2006 ride dates July 9-18 - c'mon and join us! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <04a301c5e140$8d0e2c40$6501a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" References: Subject: Re: Pre-show Announcement Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:03:45 -0500 I hate pre-show announcements or curtain speeches. They're detracting from the show. I've always wondered, why are they required for certain events and venues and not others. e.g., A PTA meeting in an auditorium doesn't have to have one, nor does a band concert, but a play does? Why don't you hear them in church services? What about at sporting events? Where, when, why, how does the fire marshal draw the line? Fire marshal has been on my campus twice this year. Not once has he said anything about pre-show speeches, not for church services, concerts, plays, sporting events, meetings. Not for the sanctuary, the gym, the fellowship hall, the youth meeting room. Nada. Why not in my facility, but at the local comm. theatre down the street he's required it for any public meeting or presentation? Anyway, Dana, rather than play guessing games, ask the fire marshal what would be acceptable and for an example. Specifically what is it that's required to be said. And if it's would be me, I'd ask what building mods I could make so I didn't have to make a pre-show speech. Alf My 1.5cents worth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Taylor" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 7:35 AM Subject: Pre-show Announcement For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hello: We are being directed by the local fire marshall to update our pre-show announcements. Specifically, updating those statements in regard to fire evacuation. Is anyone aware of standard wording that should be used or even an example of what you use in your venue. Thanks in advance. Dana Taylor Dana W. Taylor Mt. Vernon Sr. High School 812.838.4356 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: Overhire electrician -- NYC Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:10:10 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c5e141$19382180$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: I need an electrician on this coming Sunday, 6 November, in Manhattan. Please call or email. ================================= Jeffrey E. Salzberg, http://www.jeffsalzberg.com 201/379-3138 (Home) 917/238-7430 (Cell) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <436B639E.1050902 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:35:26 -0500 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: How to quiet a fog machine? References: In-Reply-To: You didn't say how you were attaching the hose to the fog machine. You need to leave the connection open to suck air through the hose with the fog. Think drain vent. Rick Davy Davis wrote: >is there a way to get better smoke through the duct? > > -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <436B64A3.7090006 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:39:47 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Pre-show Announcement References: Yeah - would that those kids came with a switch! LOL Steve Greg Williams wrote: > We also occasionally ask patrons "at this time, please turn off all > cell phones, pagers, candy wrappers, and small children... the first 3 > may be left with the box office manager if you wish." > > -=Greg Williams=- > Production Manager > Valborg Theatre, Appalachian State University > > www.LRLR.org - 2006 ride dates July 9-18 - c'mon and join us! > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20051104054821.03a6d270 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 05:58:39 -0800 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: Alibi(s) In-Reply-To: References: Yeah, the Alibi is still there and still pretty much the same. Not sure how long it will last--urban renewal is pushing east. Never know, the city could deem it blighted and take it all away. The "Attitude Ajustment Center" we built at the Old Globe is still there too--coming up on twenty years now--along with the 55 gallon BBQ we put together. (Nothing like oxyacetylene to get the coals lit in time for lunch.) The Globe is still a great place to work. I don't remember who was asking, But Ben Thoron (who is on this list occasionally) is the TD there now. He would be the one to contact for stagecraft work in San Diego. (619) 231-1941. I guess the pay is . . . ok . . . but San Diego is a very expensive place to live. At 03:01 AM 11/4/2005, you wrote: >The San Diego Alibi (I don't even know if it's still there, maybe >Laren can do some recon...) had none of the charm of a tiki bar.=20 >Just quiet and simple. Loren "Grits" Schreiber, Technical Director School of Theatre, Television and Film San Diego State University Long Reach Long Riders announce dates for the 2006 Charity Ride. Check out www.lrlr.org for more information, and then join us! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20051104140359.24772.qmail [at] web52205.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 06:03:59 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Marsland Subject: Playing Well In-Reply-To: AMEN KRISTI! -- would that we all took this to heart! Paul > > It's all about playing well with others. The rest > can be learned. > > Kristi __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Falling distance Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 09:25:19 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196CA2D [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > > >And if Frank were PUSHED off that catwalk, how much faster=20 > would he=20 > > >then > > >fall.....??? > > > > > >/tongue out of cheek/ > > =20 > > With or without Mafia Block attached? >=20 > It would make no difference, although it would complicate=20 > landing. Galileo=20 > demonstrated that with small and large cannonballs in the=20 > 17th century. The mass=20 > of a falling object has no effect on its fall rate. True, for the most part. But pushing could theoretically make the starting velocity somewhat more than zero, which is what is normally assumed for a fall... ------------------------------ Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: Falling distance Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 09:28:19 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196CA2E [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Oops... made a slight error ( 28 ft/sec instead of 32 ft/sec=20 > in the velocity calculations)..... here's the accurate calculations... >=20 > Simple physics.... >=20 > 1.3229 sec. =3D Time to fall to the deck >=20 > Vmph =3D 28.84 Intriguing how topical the list has been these days when compared to what I'm teaching in class...we spent part of Monday talking about safety cables and the amount of force generated when a lighting instrument falls, complete with a chalkboard demo done by one of my physics-oriented students. And they sometimes wonder why I mandate a list subscription as part of the class reading material! ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: Re: Pre-show Announcement Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 09:56:59 -0500 >I've always wondered, why are they required for certain events and venues >and not others. e.g., A PTA meeting in an auditorium doesn't have to have >one, nor does a band concert, but a play does? Why don't you hear them in >church services? What about at sporting events? Where, when, why, how >does the fire marshal draw the line? In some venues, I've been instructed to announce fire exits in instances where the fire exits are impeded or obstructed -- basically, when the set conceals the upstage wall. I've seen it used as an opportunity to also welcome the audience to the theater, mention upcoming shows, thank very large corporate sponsors, remind people about cell phones and flash photography, congratulate someone on their birthday/marriage/anniversary/hundredth show/divorce/etc., and so forth and so on. (And some of these preshow announcements do go on and on! The best turn the preshow announcement into a sort of radio play.) I'd like to think that in areas where the *audience* exits are clearly marked and adequate for the egress of however many people the halls holds, and the front of house staff has been properly trained on evacuating audiences in an emergency, that a preshow announcement shouldn't actually be needed. But these are strange times. -- Matt ========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Subject: E-rope Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:07:09 -0500 Message-ID: <7AE59BA9B8D15D4787EB1C7A2DB6DFBA30E017 [at] jekyll-sbs.ollsi.local> From: "Abby Downing" Check out this link for e-rope. (electronically sensed rope) www.squid-labs.com/projects/erope/ Is anyone using this already in any stagecraft-type applications? I can see it being useful in our industry... Any thoughts on the stuff? Abby ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051104083145.00b4b5d0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:31:45 From: CB Subject: Re: Falling distance >Whoever answers this, please show your work. Am curious to learn this. Well, you're probably going to get a lot of answers that'll convince you that a body will accellerate at one gee at the rate of 32 feet per second per second, and that you can do the math that way, but that doesn't include the calculations for gravity differences atelevations above (or below) sea level, air density changes due to elevation, temperature and/or humidity, and resistance changes based on what the individual is wearing. The descent speed would be the square root of twice g (in m/s squared) times Weight divided by 0.75 p (in Pascals) times Area (in sq. m). Once you have that, calculate a sub n, whcih equals - 20.0508 plus 3.166 times ten to the sixth power over h plus 57140. with that you can calculate the descent time as a sub n times h times the square root of 0.03 times W over A. 'Zat help? Oh, and the answer? Somewhere in the vicinity of a second, not enough either way that you really be able to tell much on the way down, or care. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051104085141.00b4b5d0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:51:41 From: CB Subject: Texas Ballet Theatre Susan Jacob is the new PSM at the TBT, and is doing the whole moving thing/new job thing on her own as her husband (and my good friend) is off in China with "West Side Story". Those of you in the Dallas/Ft. Wuth area make sure that you are real nice to her when you run across her, as she is one of the good ones. Buy her single malt scotch and tell her that it was sent from the gods. She'll know. Bill me. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:57:17 -0500 From: Steve Boone Subject: Airline Seats Hi, Does anybody within driving distance of northwest Ohio have a couple of airline seats? --the actual chairs, not tickets for a flight;) We're doing Anton in Show Business starting Dec 1, and need two. Feel free to reply off-list. TIA Steve Boone, TD (today) Bowling Green State Univ. sboone [at] bgsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:58:09 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <918716208.20051104105809 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Re: Scrim costs... In-Reply-To: References: Howdy ! Thursday, November 3, 2005, Jon Ares wrote: > ballpark figure... a black sharkstooth scrim, webbing at the top, pipe > pocket at the bottom, and let's say... 30'hx50'w. Within a ballpark smaller than Yankee Stadium, 50' w x 30'h finished and delivered but not installed: $3,000.00. Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.60 mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051104085920.00b4b5d0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:59:20 From: CB Subject: House Heads/Show Heads >Your situation seems to allow that particular promoter >to save a small pile of money. If you can quantify >your problems with that staffing setup in such a way >that the admins above you come to agree, they can help >you change your inherited arrangement. If you can't >change the minds above you at the contracting level, >you may have to look for other answers. We travel with our own heads, and that's how I've always seen it. We usually have locals working on the show, and hte local house heads tend to get one of the positions. In some places (depending on the card) the house head will be there and act as liason, and do little else. OTOH, let the renter do what he will and bill accordingly. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:00:07 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1028296695.20051104110007 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Re[2]: Scrim costs... In-Reply-To: References: Howdy ! Thursday, November 3, 2005, Bob Bruemner wrote: > I recently purchased one (white) for about $1300. I sure hope that Bob's scrim was a lot smaller than 50' x 30' or else I sure look greedy at Three Big Ones.... Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.60 mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <436B8761.CC37C2B [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:08:01 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Airline Seats References: Steve Boone wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi, > Does anybody within driving distance of northwest Ohio have a > couple of airline seats? --the actual chairs, not tickets for a > flight;) We're doing Anton in Show Business starting Dec 1, and need > two. > > Feel free to reply off-list. > > TIA > Steve Boone, TD (today) > Bowling Green State Univ. > > sboone [at] bgsu.edu Call your local airline's maintenance shop. They are made to be swapped out for repair in the shop. They may have a couple sets laying around that they can loan to you. --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:04:52 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1351404886.20051104110452 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Re: Airline Seats In-Reply-To: References: Howdy ! Friday, November 4, 2005, Steve Boone wrote: > Does anybody within driving distance of northwest Ohio have a > couple of airline seats? Indianapolis-based ATA ("America's Hometown Airline") is writhing in a financial quagmire brought about by, in my not-at-all-humble opinion, no fault of their own. They might donate a couple in exchange for some badly needed accolades in the eye of the public. Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.60 mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051104091200.00b4b5d0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 09:12:00 From: CB Subject: Re: Falling distance >Not sure if you mean the method of securing the cable, or that of >disconnecting it. The wrap around the handle and the gutar strap is tie method of securing the cable which necessitates the use of the 'pig sticker' to break the connection. The kofe is far more useful than a pair of wire cutting pliers, is much faster, and has a far larger intimidation factor attached to it when dealing with overprivileged Greenwich teens, disgruntled promoters, raging drunks, or folk who just won't see things your way regardless of how much logic is applied. "Look out! He's got a plier!" is not something you often hear... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: "Joe Golden" Subject: Trucking Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:38:12 -0800 Message-ID: Looking for good trucking companies for a west coast run. I remember someone here is associated with Clark, but I can't find a number for them. TIA Joe -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.7/160 - Release Date: 11/3/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:48:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Scrim costs... From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Howdy. I'm not so sure I like the idea of all of us bidding on products here on the list. I wouldn't want to see someone get pissed off at someone else because of a bid war, ya know? BTW, I also sell scrim and have a price, but I would prefer to send it privately. Now if I can just find that email.... Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 11/4/05 11:00 AM, "Frank E. Merrill" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Howdy ! > > Thursday, November 3, 2005, Bob Bruemner wrote: > >> I recently purchased one (white) for about $1300. > > I sure hope that Bob's scrim was a lot smaller than 50' x 30' or else I > sure look greedy at Three Big Ones.... > > Best regards, > Frank E. Merrill > MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT > Indianapolis > Established 1946 > www.merrillstage.com > > Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.60 > mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net > > > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20051104090505.036537d8 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 09:08:01 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Re[2]: Scrim costs... In-Reply-To: References: At 08:48 AM 11/4/2005, you wrote: >Howdy. I'm not so sure I like the idea of all of us bidding on products >here on the list. I wouldn't want to see someone get pissed off at someone >else because of a bid war, ya know? I should point out that prices can and do vary across the country for various reasons, such as: Delivery Oh, you want it delivered INDOORS Oh, upstairs, too? At a specific time? Installation? Local taxes/codes (FR, IFR) Hassle Factor (for customers late in paying previous invoice) Method of payment etc. -- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Trucking Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:14:26 -0500 > I remember someone here is associated with Clark, but I can't find a > number for them. That's not me, but their office here in central PA. here's the website http://clarktransfer.com/ Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 12:13:34 -0500 Subject: Re: Airline Seats From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Sorry that I'm in Raleigh. We got 3 seats through a fire fighter that trains on putting out airplane fires. Try your local FD training area. Steve > From: Steve Boone > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:57:17 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Airline Seats > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi, > Does anybody within driving distance of northwest Ohio have a > couple of airline seats? --the actual chairs, not tickets for a > flight;) We're doing Anton in Show Business starting Dec 1, and need > two. > > Feel free to reply off-list. > > TIA > Steve Boone, TD (today) > Bowling Green State Univ. > > sboone [at] bgsu.edu ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <4D00314A-0702-46F4-85F1-78C373A32780 [at] gmail.com> From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: Airline Seats Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:18:17 -0600 On 04 Nov, 2005, at 09:57, Steve Boone wrote: > Does anybody within driving distance of northwest Ohio have a > couple of airline seats? --the actual chairs, not tickets for a > flight;) We're doing Anton in Show Business starting Dec 1, and > need two. I don't know what you call driving distance, but Actors Theatre of Louisville premiered the show back in 2000. I remember airline seats in the show [or another, they all blur together now]. Mark Walston is the head of props and he might be able to help you out. The number for ATL is 502-584-1265. -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance atvanceld [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Joe Golden" Subject: RE: Trucking Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 09:32:35 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: That's it. Thanks Joe --------------------------------------------------- > I remember someone here is associated with Clark, but I can't find a > number for them. That's not me, but their office here in central PA. here's the website http://clarktransfer.com/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/2005 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <252.331ec9.309cf6aa [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:38:50 EST Subject: Re: Falling distance In a message dated 04/11/05 14:26:03 GMT Standard Time, pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu writes: > True, for the most part. But pushing could theoretically make the > starting velocity somewhat more than zero, which is what is normally > assumed for a fall... Not in the vertical component of the velocity. It would just add in a sidesways component. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Subject: RE: House crew vs. local heads Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:50:39 -0600 Message-ID: <49B1EE6419216743A7C1AEE1F9789707925D9A [at] CCUMAIL44.usa.ccu.clearchannel.com> From: "Ehrenberg, Steven" Message-Id: <59F15208-0EF9-4A0F-87AD-98D9EB576EC1 [at] earthlink.net> From: Brendan Quigley Subject: Re: house crew vs. local heads Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 08:53:02 -0600 mornin' all ... so Scott Stewart tapped: >After an extended absence, I return to seek the wisdom of "The List." > >Does anyone have a situation where the House Crew or House Heads are = =3D >bumped by a presenter's local Dept. Heads? =3DA0I inherited an =20 arrangement =3D >where the House Crew is Head Carpenter, Head Electrician, and Head =3D >Sound, but one presenter in particular brings in their own full set =20 of =3D >Heads, which creates confusion, tension and billing controversies. > >Just thought I would ask before adjusting the orientation of the =20 apple =3D >cart. > >Thanks, >Scott Stewart I think I know what is meant here. Here in Houston at the new (and =20 pretty cool!) Hobby Center Theater, there are House Crew Heads (IA =20 members), and Clear Channel Heads (also IA members). It's an =20 interesting arrangement, but to me a tad unusual. It works for the =20 locals as they work that way every day, but it's a bit odd for =20 touring shows like ours. Especially in this case, and I've known the =20 Local (read theatre) Head Electrician is an old friend of mine. I've heard that this is also the case at the new venue in Boston (oh, =20 Mr. Ehrenberg, you out there?), but as I've not had the opportunity =20 to play there as yet. Don't know that this gives you any guidance in your decision about =20 that pesky apple cart, but I hope it helps in some way. Or, to quote =20 the famous (infamous??) Bill Sapsis ... 'zat help? Kind Regards, Brendan C. Quigley Head Electrician ? Vari*Lite Technician WICKED - A New Broadway Musical Hi Brendan et al. yes, I'm out here but I wasn't going to talk directly to this issue, I guess now that the feline is unsacked I can try and shed some light. BIG DISCLAIMER HERE- THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED HERE ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF CLEAR CHANNEL ENTERTAINMENT IN ANY WAY. I AM BORING YOU PEOPLE AS AN INDIVIDUAL - NOT AS A CCE EMPLOYEE. Ok enough of that, now...Firstly, the situation at the Opera House in Boston is not like Houston, the house heads there are always the department heads for all attractions, including Broadway In Boston presentations. The Opera House is a CCE venue and there is not a situation like the one in the Hobby Center. The situation at the Hobby is interesting to say the least, it is a question of layers. Prior to the Hobby Center's opening with a basic crew of Dept. Heads, as one would expect in a venue of that size, Broadway in Houston presented touring Broadway in other venues in town, Jones Hall mostly, as well as some others as necessary. Broadway In Houston still presents in Jones for a few shows in a season. Broadway in Houston (BIH for the rest of this - by the way, anywhere you see the Broadway In... designation for a Broadway season it is one of the markets I work with - Collectively AKA Broadway Across America) has had, for many years, an excellent group of Department heads who have been working the shows that BIH presents in all venues. The BIH TD and management trust them and continue to rely on their expertise in dealing with Broadway tours. They are a top notch group and, as far as my experience with them goes, have an excellent understanding of what is needed from them to put in a touring Broadway production, and they get the job done as efficiently and effectively as it can be done.=20 Now... move on to doing BIH presentations in the Hobby, where there are house dept. heads from the Hobby, BIH dept heads to run the local crews and of course the Production's Pink Contract Folks, lots of chiefs. This is the confusion and unusual situation that Scott was alluding to in the original post. The second major tenant in the Hobby center is in a similar boat, house crew, their own heads and production heads for many of their shows. The layers of heads can get confusing, and who is in charge of what and whom also can get dicey, hopefully we can work it all out. As everything else, all the issues come down to $$$$. On Broadway, which was discussed in reference to this post, the House heads and the Local One crew are employees of the theater, The production brings in their own pink contract, production heads & some crew in a contractually agreed upon number to oversee the show's equipment and work with the local crews on install and running the show. This is fairly straight forward and is really the B'way norm. Steven Steven Ehrenberg=20 Director of Technical Supervision=20 Clear Channel Entertainment - Theatrical=20 220 W 42nd St. 14th floor NY, NY 10036=20 Office 917 421 5461=20 Mobile 917 331 0207 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <436B618E.10195.221BA7B [at] localhost> From: "Michael Denison" Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 13:26:38 -0600 Subject: Re: Airline Seats Reply-To: In-Reply-To: References:
Again, not knowing what you consider driving distance, check out avfab.com in Clinton, Missouri. They do the insides of corporate jets and they lent me a beautiful set of leather seats for our production of Anton in Show Business a couple of years ago.


>       Does anybody within driving distance of northwest Ohio have a
> couple of airline seats?  --the actual chairs, not tickets for a
> flight;)  We're doing Anton in Show Business starting Dec 1, and need
> two.
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Cottey College
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------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:07:14 -0500 Subject: Re: Airline Seats From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Does anybody within driving distance of northwest > Ohio have a=20 >=20 >> couple of airline seats?=A0 --the actual chairs Have you tried eBay? Our props people needed a pair of bus seats for "The Trip to Bountiful" and found them on eBay for $9.99. - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:30:13 -0500 Subject: airline seats on eBay From: Steve Larson Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/Boeing-747-Triple-Set-Airplane-Airline-Aircraft-seats_W0 QQitemZ6574633781QQcategoryZ419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem This was the only item listed. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:38:53 -0500 From: Greg Williams Subject: Re: Falling distance In-reply-to: Message-id: <235F560C-3C75-42B3-BB81-D797DF4BC59A [at] appstate.edu> References: On Nov 4, 2005, at 12:38 PM, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 04/11/05 14:26:03 GMT Standard Time, > pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu > writes: > >> True, for the most part. But pushing could theoretically make the >> starting velocity somewhat more than zero, which is what is normally >> assumed for a fall... > > Not in the vertical component of the velocity. It would just add in a > sidesways component. > > > Frank Wood Frank, You assume that anyone throwing you off the catwalk would throw you "out" and not "down" headfirst. I submit that might well be an incorrect assumption. If they were to throw you in a downward direction, your velocity would equal the initial downward velocity as applied by the thrower, _plus_ acceleration times time. Until and IF, that is, you reached terminal velocity, which for the human body is around 120 mph, or 176 feet per second, in a prone position. Headfirst, you could probably achieve a few more mph's. Hope this helps! -=Greg Williams=- Production Manager Valborg Theatre, Appalachian State University www.LRLR.org - 2006 ride dates July 9-18 - c'mon and join us! ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <22c.63c4fd.309d4a12 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:34:42 EST Subject: Re: House crew vs. local heads In a message dated 04/11/05 17:51:12 GMT Standard Time, StevenEhrenberg [at] clearchannel.com writes: > I think I know what is meant here. Here in Houston at the new (and > pretty cool!) Hobby Center Theater, there are House Crew Heads (IA > members), and Clear Channel Heads (also IA members). It's an > interesting arrangement, but to me a tad unusual. It works for the > locals as they work that way every day, but it's a bit odd for > touring shows like ours. Especially in this case, and I've known the > Local (read theatre) Head Electrician is an old friend of mine. As an amateur house, we work in a rather different way. Visiting companies are provided with a lighting man, who often can double as a sound man, and an SM. All of these have advisory parts to play, in their various fields. They show the visitors where the gear is kept, what is available to them, and what not, and generally looking after the interests of the theatre. A visiting company may ask their 'minders' to act for them as LD, or whatever. This is a strictly private arrangement between the LD and the visitors, to which the theatre is not a party. I've done this several times, and valued the experience. Lighting opera seldom comes my way. I see quite a lot, and know how it is usually done. Two "Magic Flutes"; "The Marriage of Figaro"; "Gianni Schicci"; and "Suor Angelica". Of course, I worked with the companies beforehand. Many companies are frequent visitors, and know how it goes. New visitors are always watched carefully. Not for their artistic merit. but for potential damage to the fabric of the theatre, and for safety considerations. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <23a.66b9a6.309d4bbf [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:41:51 EST Subject: Re: Falling distance In a message dated 04/11/05 21:45:55 GMT Standard Time, gwilliams [at] appstate.edu writes: > You assume that anyone throwing you off the catwalk would throw you > "out" and not "down" headfirst. I submit that might well be an > incorrect assumption. I am indeed. To eject me head first from our catwalks would need me to be unconscious. Even then it would be hard. Pushing me sideways off an unrailed catwalk would be easy, either inadvertently or deliberately. But still, the initial impetus is sideways. Frank Wood ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #573 *****************************