Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 25742309; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:01:19 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #601 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:00:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, SARE_ADULT2 autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #601 1. Re: buss/bus by Jim Hyslop 2. Re: buss/bus by Charlie Richmond 3. Re: "Not for Lifting" ratings on hardware by Bill Sapsis 4. Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 5. Job in Miami by Bill Sapsis 6. Re: "Not for Lifting" ratings on hardware by Delbert Hall 7. Workin with da mouse by b Ricie 8. Actor snaps over phone ring by b Ricie 9. Re: In reference to ....Revox by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 10. Re: buss/bus by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 11. Re: "Not for Lifting" ratings on hardware by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 12. Re: buss/bus by "Don Taco" 13. Re: "Not for Lifting" ratings on hardware by Delbert Hall 14. Re: In reference to ....Revox by Charlie Richmond 15. Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile by CB 16. Re: In reference to Rigging Certification. by CB 17. Re: "Not for Lifting" ratings on hardware by CB 18. Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile by CB 19. Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile by CB 20. Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile by MissWisc [at] aol.com 21. Re: In reference to ....Revox by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 22. Re: In reference to ....Revox by Charlie Richmond 23. Re: In reference to Rigging Certification. by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 24. Re: In reference to ....Revox by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 25. Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile by Jim Hyslop 26. Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile by Jim Hyslop 27. Re: buss/bus by Jim Hyslop 28. Re: Graduate Programs by "Thomas Schraeder" 29. Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile by "Chris Warner" 30. Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 31. Re: buss/bus by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <4389C2FD.5010205 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:30:21 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: buss/bus References:

In-Reply-To: Bill Nelson wrote: > Regardless of the dictionary definitions - you will find that > regulatory organizations use both "bus" and "buss", when talking > about a common collector conductor, such as a "buss/bus bar". That really is unfortunate. Regulatory organizations, more so than anyone else, have the extra responsibility to ensure that their documents are accurate. I would have expected better from an official organization. -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:33:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: buss/bus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, Jim Hyslop wrote: >> about a common collector conductor, such as a "buss/bus bar". Buss is a brand name. Bus is the generic name. It is a mistake to use Buss for bus. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:44:47 -0500 Subject: Re: "Not for Lifting" ratings on hardware From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: On 11/26/05 10:47 PM, "Delbert Hall" wrote: > I am not a big fan of safety bolts on trim chains. While the idea of > a safety bolts as described above sounds good, the reality is far too > often not a good idea. More often than not, the safety bolts are too > short or tightened too much and they ends up holding some, most, or > all of the load. When the safety bolt holds the load, links of the > chain are loaded in a way that it are not intended to be loaded, > potentially damaging the chain. If the trim was rigged correctly > there is not a tremendous load on the shackle to begin with, and if > the pin of the shackle is properly moused, it will not come out. > Mousing the pin of a shackle is a lot faster, cheaper, and easier than > using a safety bolt. So why would anyone want to do something in a > more expensive and more difficult way? IMHO, rigging the trim chain > properly and mousing the shackle pin eliminates the need for a safety > bolts entirely. Plus, when safety bolts are used they make adjusting > the trim chain far more difficult and time consuming than needed. Yup. Delbert's right. When installed improperly a safety bolt presents a problem. You pre-stress the chain, you overload the washers, all kinds of nasty stuff happens. And I do see safety bolts installed improperly on a number of occasions. But does that mean you shouldn't use them? I'm a belts and suspenders kind of guy. I would much rather see a safety along with a properly installed and moused shackle. And installing a safety bolt is easy, once you've learned the proper method. If you are using a 1/4" proof coil chain, then you take a 5/16" X 3" grade 5 hex head bolt with a washer on both the nut and the head side, and place it through both the standing side and the tail side of the chain. Place it below the shackle. Install the nut to the point where the washers are just touching the chain but not squeezing the chain together. (I use a nylock style nut, BTW). That's it. One of the main reasons I use a safety bolt is because I know, deep down in my soul, that very little maintenance gets done on counterweight systems and inspections are infrequent at best. But the systems tend to get used a lot. So, putting that information together says to me that I better have a back up plan for the areas I think need them. Trim chains are one of those areas. As to the cost, well, it's worth it to me to spend and extra buck or so and be able to sleep better at night. Just my $.02 worth. You're mileage may vary. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: RE: Actor snaps over ringing mobile Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:51:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20051127155143.GQIU21470.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> > Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, third time is > enemy action. Once may be forgetfulness. After that it's ignorant -- the phone should have been turned off. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:08:28 -0500 Subject: Job in Miami From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Howdy folks. I could use a rigger in Miami for a load out on December 1. I would prefer someone in that part of the world but if that doesn't work then I'd look further afield. It's a special event of some kind. My guys down there have to leave for China and it's become apparent that another pair of hands would be good. If you want to play you can call me today or tomorrow before 9:00 am EST at 267.278.4561. I'm on a plane for Edmonton at 9:30 am EDT and will be out of range for a few hours. Thanks Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:08:21 -0500 From: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: "Not for Lifting" ratings on hardware In-Reply-To: References:

On a job at a high school in Missouri three weeks ago, the safety bolts were placed very close to the batten so that when they were tightened to chain bound around the batten so tight that it was impossible to adjust the position of the trim chain on the batten without removing the safety bolt from the trim chain. When the nut was removed from the safety bolt, the bolt was bound in the links of the chain and it took considerable time and effort to remove the bolt from the chain. A job that should have take a few seconds (sliding the trim chain 18" along the batten) took over 10 minutes to complete. BTW, I very seldom see nylock nuts on safety bolts, although Bill is correct, if you going to use safety bolts you should use nylock nuts. I was at a high school in Texas last weekend where the trim chains connected to batten clamps directly with a shackle. The chain and the shackle held 100% of the load, and the pins on the shackles were not moused. I don't know if the battens were orginally intended to be hung from the batten clamps, or if this was a solution was employed because it allowed the installer to use the trim chains to made up for lift cables that were cut too short. As rigged the battens' low trim was about 5 feet above the deck. Other that this, the mechanical counterweight system (made by ProTech in Las Vegas) looked to be well made and installed. Two weeks ago I was at a high school in California where the lift lines on the mechanical counterweight system were spaced every 20 feet (four lift lines held each 60 foot long batten). Yes, the batten sagged considerably between the lift lines. And no, we cannot blame the architect or engineer because there were I-beams on 10 foot centers across the stage. I do not remember how the trim chains were rigged, they were the least of the issues with which I had to deal. I ended up attaching beam clamps to the unused I-beams and dead-hanging support cables from these points to level the batten and my track. There seems to be no end to the "creative" ways that mechanical counterweight systems are installed. -Delbert -- Delbert L. Hall ZFX Flying Director Phone: 714-585-7070 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20051127171015.44875.qmail [at] web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:10:15 -0800 (PST) From: b Ricie Subject: Workin with da mouse In-Reply-To: >>> Bill, if you or anyone else here wants to sign on just let me know. I just got a stack of cast > referral cards and the casting office is running a promotion right now<< Cast Referral Cards? So how does one get a job with the mouse? Do ya have to audition? Mabey sing a song while you focus a light? Perhaps do the ladder dance. Will we be asked to under-study Mickey, so when he overheats in the big mouse suit,we can jump right in? The only cast referral I want to be a part of would be " wow, great cast, I hope ya catch a fish." Brian Rice 508-685-0716 b_ricie [at] yahoo.com "Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the light." __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20051127173047.71811.qmail [at] web50614.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:30:47 -0800 (PST) From: b Ricie Subject: Actor snaps over phone ring In-Reply-To: Cape Cod tends to have the reputation of being God waiting room, so our audiences tend to be a bit older. As a result, most of our disturbances tend to be medical. On more than one occasion I have actually caught patrons "on the way down". One of the more memorable times, I caught an elderly lady in mid fall, helped her to her seat, and proceeded back stage. Along the way and elderly gentleman pulled me aside just to say "nice catch". Different demographics offers different issues of patron problems to deal with. Here, "we" want all the safe guards in place. "They" want to park in the fire lane because all the handicap parking is full. The tough part is attempting to explain why they can't park in the fire lane while being polite and helpful at the same time. I have to admit though, there have been many times I have wanted to say " you can't park there because that is where the ambulance parks when they come to take you away after you have fallen and injured yourself." Brian Rice 508-685-0716 b_ricie [at] yahoo.com "Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the light." __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <22f.29ab0ba.30bb5e25 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:08:21 EST Subject: Re: In reference to ....Revox In a message dated 27/11/05 03:05:52 GMT Standard Time, StevevETTrn [at] aol.com writes: > >But I still have a Thorens turntable, > >and a Revox reel-to-reel machine. > > Hard to beat a Revox reel-to-reel. I still have a model A77 I bought in > 1974. They are very good. The are the semi-professional side of Studer, who made big fully professional machines for broadcasting companies. These had properly balanced line inputs and outputs. Their speed could be controlled by a mains frequency reference traxk on the tape. This was how location film sound was done, either by deriving the reference from the film camera, or, more usually, by running both the camera and the portable Nagra tape machine with crystal oscillators providing the frequency references. The latter were marvellous machines, too. Battery operated (18 D-size cells), of extremely high quality, and very reliable. They were a no-compromise design, and it showed both in the electronics and in the mechanics. When you have six machined components in the catch to hold the lid closed, that's quality. They would survive almost anything, from the tropical deserts to the antarctic, although we did have to completely de-lubricate them for this, and then use special low temperature oils and greases. We only had to write one off in my time. This was involved in a very nasty car fire. A motor-bike went into the side of the car, and put the contents of the fuel tank in through the open window, alight. Neither the Nagra nor the sound recordist survived. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <29e.54b0fa.30bb602a [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:16:58 EST Subject: Re: buss/bus In a message dated 27/11/05 14:32:05 GMT Standard Time, theatre [at] dreampossible.ca writes: > That really is unfortunate. Regulatory organizations, more so than > anyone else, have the extra responsibility to ensure that their > documents are accurate. I would have expected better from an official > organization. Why don't they just un-abbreviate it to "busbar". Unambiguous, accurate, and saves two characters. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <246.23cd9a3.30bb6238 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:25:44 EST Subject: Re: "Not for Lifting" ratings on hardware In a message dated 27/11/05 17:10:19 GMT Standard Time, delbert.hall [at] gmail.com writes: > I > ended up attaching beam clamps to the unused I-beams and dead-hanging > support cables from these points to level the batten and my track. > > There seems to be no end to the "creative" ways that mechanical > counterweight systems are installed. There isn't. What is more, unless the rig-out is closely supervised, I bet these support cables are still there when next someone tries to fly in the batten. This will diminish your popularity, even if they don't know who did it. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <053a01c5f389$0f2884f0$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: buss/bus Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:30:43 -0800 > Why don't they just un-abbreviate it to "busbar". Unambiguous, accurate, > and > saves two characters. > > Frank Wood Unambiguate our language?? Dood, yer livin in a dreamworld! ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:42:47 -0500 From: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: "Not for Lifting" ratings on hardware In-Reply-To: References: On 11/27/05, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > > There isn't. What is more, unless the rig-out is closely supervised, I be= t > these support cables are still there when next someone tries to fly in th= e > batten. This will diminish your popularity, even if they don't know who d= id it. > > > Frank Wood > The TD was VERY well aware of the problem and my solution (in fact I had him help rig it so he would know how to strike it at the end of the run). -- Delbert L. Hall ZFX Flying Director Phone: 714-585-7070 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:32:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: In reference to ....Revox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > running both the camera and the portable Nagra tape machine with crystal > oscillators providing the frequency references. > > The latter were marvellous machines, too. Battery operated (18 D-size cells), > of extremely high quality, and very reliable. They were a no-compromise I owned a Nagra III for 25 years and loved to use it for film/location recording. Sold it on for the same price I paid for it ;-) Wonderful piece of equipment... Charlie ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051127135236.00cf3988 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:52:36 From: CB Subject: Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile >Y'know, it really cheezes me when someone flippantly makes a remark such as, >"The usher(s) should have taken care of that." Could it be that it would >equally or even more distracting to have an usher or two, wading into the >midst of a 20-seat deep row of patrons to descend upon, or wrestle the phone >out of the hands of a patron? Ehm, that's what the flashlights are for. If an usher comes and sposts you with the flashlight, the other patrons know whom to glare at. The second time a phone rang, and the woman had a conversation to the effect that she was at a ballet, and ooh it was beeyooteefull, I think that an usher escorting her out of the theatre would be less distracting, yes. I *don't* want the swan to ask her, now, do I? Pretty much any 'usher's duties' list will include ousting those that are disrupting the show, or at least reporting those persons to the house manager or security. Any theatre that doesn't have some sort of plan for dealing with folks disrupting the shoe are doing thier audiences a disservice. If the ushers ask you to leave the first time your phone goes off, it usually means that its also the last time your phone goes off, and the only phone to go off that performance. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051127140022.00cf3988 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:00:22 From: CB Subject: Re: In reference to Rigging Certification. Oh Frank, You're yanking me again, right? How do you justify these two statements? >It's a trade I have followed for 28 years and more. I can design and build >you an analogue system to do what you want and... > But still, both microphones and loudspeakers are analogue. >What lies between the two, provided that it is well engineered, is probably not >terribly important. >Digital recording media are a great advance, though. Despite what some >die-hards post, they free you from a lot of problems. Signal-to-noise ratios, >distortion, headroom all figure in the list. Which list? Certainly not the list of problems that a digital recording medium will free you from. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051127140520.00cf3988 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:05:20 From: CB Subject: Re: "Not for Lifting" ratings on hardware >Virtually all judges try VERY hard to administer fair tria= >ls, and are usually successful, but the Jury still remains 'The Conscien= >ce of the Court.' "Virtually all" is something I have yet to be exposed to. While I am sure that there is a large portion of the legal community that is there to serve justice, my experiences tell me that it's not the majority, nor is it a large portion of the minority. There are shining examples from my past, and I admire them greatly. From my years as a teenager with, shall we say, 'enthusiasm', my years in law enforcement, and the rest of my years working with the courts and just dealing with them in everyday life, I've been sorely dissappointed at the system referred to as 'Justice' here. It might just be me, though. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051127141211.00cf3988 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:12:11 From: CB Subject: Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile >One of the problems we wrestle with in our theatre is that >it's general admission. There have been occasions where >two people will be holding 8 seats. When we point out to these people >that saving seats is not allowed, You don't have any method by which ten people can sit together unless they all arrive at the same time, early enough to go commandeer those seats. Try to get ten of your family members to arrive at the theatre before half hour. Try. I dare you! I feel your pain, I do, but the only way that these folk have to arrange themselves together is forethought or saving seats. What do you think is gonna happen. No one ever got giving stupid people an alternative method to faking it last minute. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051127141822.00cf3988 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:18:22 From: CB Subject: RE: Actor snaps over ringing mobile >Actually drunk and disorderly describes the disruptive audience members >I ever had to deal with. So... I think what we were looking for is what you did to deal with them. What if they become drunk and/or disorderly? I'm guessing drunk isn't the problem, I could see a show completely pi$$ed and not bother the folk next to me. Maybe too many trips past them to the plumbing. Oh, Jon, we once had a parent that was "Too drunk to run the rail" as it was reported to me. I had to ask just how drunk was too drunk to run the rail. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:07:38 EST Subject: Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile _theatre [at] dreampossible.ca_ (mailto:theatre [at] dreampossible.ca) writes: << We frequently get audience members saving seats for friends who have not yet arrived.>> Is your policy posted? I tend to get rude when I'm expected to follow a policy that's only shared via ESP. Put up large signs. Stamp it on the back of ticket envelopes. Put it in your programs. Tell your ticket sales people to remind folks when they get the tickets that "It's general admission and we don't allow saving of seats, so make certain all of your party is here early if you want to get the best seats." Second solution: have the ticket takers supervise seating by asking "Is all your party present?" and not letting them in the door before then. The usher then escorts each party to the best available seating. Safer than the "cattle stampeed" too. Post large signs saying "For your safety, our ushers will assist you when all of your party is present." <> Because it's part of putting on a show. Sometimes you get to be in the spotlight and sometimes you're sweeping up dirt. This is in the dirt category. If the policy isn't worth the hassle of enforcing it, get rid of the policy. Kristi ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <86.34a29858.30bb9dc1 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:39:45 EST Subject: Re: In reference to ....Revox In a message dated 27/11/05 20:35:12 GMT Standard Time, charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com writes: > > The latter were marvellous machines, too. Battery operated (18 D-size cells) > , > > of extremely high quality, and very reliable. They were a no-compromise > > I owned a Nagra III for 25 years and loved to use it for film/location > recording. Sold it on for the same price I paid for it ;-) > > Wonderful piece of equipment... The Nagra IV and 4 were better. Fundamentally the same, but I never liked the bits of the Nagra III mechanisms that were operated by flexible wires. But having spent some time dealing with L2s and Perfectones, they were a great advance. The Nagra SN was a miracle. About 5" x 3" x 1", it did full broadcast quality recording on 1/8" tape, reel to reel at 3 1/2 ips. I believe that it was originally invented for the CIA: it was certainly small enough to fit in your pocket, and came with an unobtrusive microphone. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:43:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: In reference to ....Revox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > The Nagra SN was a miracle. About 5" x 3" x 1", it did full broadcast quality > recording on 1/8" tape, reel to reel at 3 1/2 ips. I believe that it was > originally invented for the CIA: it was certainly small enough to fit in your > pocket, and came with an unobtrusive microphone. That I can certainly believe!!! but I never needed that level of discreetness, or portability ;-) Did your department adopt them eventually? Charlie ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <201.ec5ebc3.30bba209 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:58:01 EST Subject: Re: In reference to Rigging Certification. In a message dated 27/11/05 21:07:53 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > Oh Frank, You're yanking me again, right? How do you justify these two > statements? > >It's a trade I have followed for 28 years and more. I can design and build > >you an analogue system to do what you want > and... > > But still, both microphones and loudspeakers are analogue. > >What lies between the two, provided that it is well engineered, is > probably not > >terribly important. > > > >Digital recording media are a great advance, though. Despite what some > >die-hards post, they free you from a lot of problems. Signal-to-noise > ratios, > >distortion, headroom all figure in the list. > > Which list? Certainly not the list of problems that a digital recording > medium will free you from. No, I'm not. Consider an analogue TV broadcasting system. Right after the signal leaves the studio desk, it travels on analogue lines, through analogue distribution amplifiers, to an analogue transmitter. Who knows what will happen to it on the way? Yes, digital recording removes a few problems. Headroom and wow and flutter are two. It is also capable of a much better signl-to-noise ratio, although, by the time it's got to the transmitter, I think that much of this will have been lost. You tell me your list. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <245.240fcd6.30bba479 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:08:25 EST Subject: Re: In reference to ....Revox In a message dated 27/11/05 23:45:52 GMT Standard Time, charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com writes: > > The Nagra SN was a miracle. About 5" x 3" x 1", it did full broadcast > quality > > recording on 1/8" tape, reel to reel at 3 1/2 ips. I believe that it was > > originally invented for the CIA: it was certainly small enough to fit in > your > > pocket, and came with an unobtrusive microphone. > > That I can certainly believe!!! but I never needed that level of > discreetness, > or portability ;-) > > Did your department adopt them eventually? We has about half a dozen, for discreet filming. But theeir bigger friends were our maninstay. They were a pain to repair. For general use we stuck with th Nagra IV, and 4S when we needed stereo. I still have the manuals. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <438A5769.7090801 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:03:37 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile References: In-Reply-To: CB wrote: > You don't have any method by which ten people can sit together unless > they all arrive at the same time, early enough to go commandeer those > seats. Try to get ten of your family members to arrive at the theatre > before half hour. Try. I dare you! Nice try ;=) but friends of mine (a group of at 10-12 or more) arrive _en masse_ an hour before curtain (house opens at the half hour). Most regular patrons know to do the same. Yes, it is possible, and it does take forethought. > I feel your pain, I do, but the > only way that these folk have to arrange themselves together is > forethought or saving seats. What do you think is gonna happen. Yes, this is a difficult issue to deal with. If we get tough, where do we draw the line? A group of ten saving one seat is, IMO, not bad. It's the one or two people holding large number of seats that we've had letters of complaints about. Even though the tickets clearly state "General admission", we still get groups of 6 or 8 people showing up 5 minutes before curtain, on a sold-out night, expecting to be able to sit together. We may go to reserved seating, for this and other reasons. -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-ID: <438A5A17.30006 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:15:03 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile References: In-Reply-To: MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > Is your policy posted? I tend to get rude when I'm expected to follow > a policy that's only shared via ESP. Good point. It is posted, but maybe not prominently enough. I'll have to have another look. On the other hand, sometimes it doesn't matter how much you post things. We recently put on "Assassins" and had signs every 5 feet or so in the lobby, in huge print, warning that there were multiple, loud gunshots during the show. Some audience members still complained. > Second solution: have the ticket takers supervise seating by asking > "Is all your party present?" and not letting them in the door before > then. The usher then escorts each party to the best available > seating. Safer than the "cattle stampeed" too. Post large signs > saying "For your safety, our ushers will assist you when all of your > party is present." Hmmm... I'm not sure how well that'll fly with either the patrons or the house staff. I know I get annoyed at restaurants where we've booked a large party for a specific time, and the restaurant refuses to seat us until almost the entire party has arrived, even though a majority of the party was there on time. Back to the theatre, though. We usually don't have any problems with a stampede, I guess partly because the way the theatre is set up people branch off in several different directions as soon as they get through the door, and the line-up before entering is very orderly. > Because it's part of putting on a show. Sometimes you get to be in > the spotlight and sometimes you're sweeping up dirt. This is in the > dirt category. Heh, thanks for the reminder. Being the president, I guess I'm seeing more of the dirt than the spotlight at the moment. -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-ID: <438A5A8B.70708 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:16:59 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: buss/bus References:

In-Reply-To: Charlie Richmond wrote: > Buss is a brand name. Bus is the generic name. It is a mistake to > use Buss for bus. Hmmm... I wonder if Buss tries to enforce its brand name? If not, they could lose their trademark (just like escalator, nylon, aspirin [in the U.S. - it's still a trademark in Canada] and so on). -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Thomas Schraeder" Subject: RE: Graduate Programs Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:56:35 -0500 Justin, You'll probably get a number of responses on your question. Its the start of your search for the last (hopefully) formal academic relationship you'll have. Here's my two cents. I recruit for our grad program and your decision to work before entering grad school is absolutely right on. You should take a year or more away from scholl to see what it is you enjoy (and dislike,) what you're willing to put up with and wehat personal issues - location, pay scale, solidity of employment - you really want. Are you looking for a program that focuses more on academic study or on production? Do you need financial support from a program or are you willing to go the student loan route? With those issues considered, target several schools that meet your criteria and let the faculty in the area you've chosen know you're interested. Find a way to arrange a campus visit. Be certain this is a place you'll be happy spending several years of your life. You want to meet and know the individuals you'll be counting on to move you ahead. Talk with current and past students. You don't need to "like" the faculty, but you do need to respect them and feel comfortable with their style of teaching and mentoring. That personal approach will also but you in a good position when those faculty members are making their decisions. Remember, the faculty wants committed students (as well as talented) and you'll have already made a step in that direction. In the short run, talk with your current professors. They've probably mentioned the SETC and USITT conferences. Both are good sources of information on grad programs and USITT is pretty close - Louisville - this year, so take advantage. Make a hole in your schedule. Its probably more important than the classes you'd miss when you go. You're welcome to contact me outside the forum. I love the fact I get paid to help people in your situation even when I suggest they go to another school. Tom Schraeder Lighting Design Wayne State University Theatre 4841 Cass Ave., Suite 3225 Detroit, MI 48202 313-577-7908 - office 313-577-0935 - fax >From: Justin Ames >Reply-To: "Stagecraft" >To: "Stagecraft" >Subject: Graduate Programs >Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:50:28 -0500 > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Hi, > I am new here. I am a student in Production Studies in Performing >Arts at Clemson University. I have been lurking for a while and have >found quite a bit of really interesting stuff here (I find I learn >more reading bits and pieces and filling in the big picture than I do >from textbooks). I am not yet sure what I want to do yet. But my main >focus is on Stage Management, then Light and Set Design. I plan on >doing some work before grad school, but I want to get started >searching so long. I was just wondering what good graduate programs >you guys recommend. (And yes, I will probably teach somewhere in the >future, so I definitely want to get my MFA). > >Thanks, >Justin Ames ------------------------------ From: "Chris Warner" Subject: RE: Actor snaps over ringing mobile Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:44:08 -0800 Message-ID: <027f01c5f3cd$fced42e0$6401a8c0 [at] chris> In-Reply-To: AS the Sound Op I watched the House staff deal with! Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 2:18 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Actor snaps over ringing mobile > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >Actually drunk and disorderly describes the disruptive audience members > >I ever had to deal with. > > So... I think what we were looking for is what you did to deal with them. > What if they become drunk and/or disorderly? I'm guessing drunk isn't the > problem, I could see a show completely pi$$ed and not bother the folk next > to me. Maybe too many trips past them to the plumbing. > Oh, Jon, we once had a parent that was "Too drunk to run the rail" as it > was reported to me. I had to ask just how drunk was too drunk to run the > rail. > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ > > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 11/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 11/27/2005 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Actor snaps over ringing mobile Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:45:37 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01c5f3d6$96e0c130$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > We may go to reserved seating, for this and other reasons. For an extreme example of "other reasons," Google "The Who" and "Riverfront Coliseum". ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1098.208.51.52.104.1133171503.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 01:51:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: buss/bus From: "Bill Nelson" >> Regardless of the dictionary definitions - you will find that >> regulatory organizations use both "bus" and "buss", when talking >> about a common collector conductor, such as a "buss/bus bar". > > That really is unfortunate. Regulatory organizations, more so than > anyone else, have the extra responsibility to ensure that their > documents are accurate. I would have expected better from an official > organization. I think, in many cases, that the regulatory agencies use the terminology that is used in the field, even if it is not precisely correct. In this case, at least in the US, I seldom hear the term "bar" used at all by electricians. They call the conductor a "ground buss/bus", "common/neutral buss/bus" etc. Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #601 *****************************