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Re: Operatic amplification, redux by CB 2. Re: Be Happy healthy and safe by CB 3. Re: Operatic amplification, redux by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 4. CAD library for Theatre by Patrick Immel 5. Re: CAD library for Theatre by Eric Rouse 6. Re: CAD library for Theatre by Patrick Immel 7. Re: Electrics call by Greg Bierly 8. Know your tools by Mark O'Brien 9. CAD Library for Theatre VERSION TWO by Patrick Immel 10. OT: Wile E. Coyote blueprints? by Michael Sorensen *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060102134734.00cff7e8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:47:34 From: CB Subject: Re: Operatic amplification, redux >By me, 'enhancement' is >done to deal with the acoustic deficiencies of an auditorium. In >Birmingham and in Salford, it is possible to modify the auditorium acoustics >mechanically I'm not sure that there is a huge difference in miking the singers and changing the acoutic properties in the room, if the end result is the same. Quite often, even in musical theatre, the 'sound re-inforcement' is just that, it helps far more in the back rows and the balconies than it does in the orchestra seats. We try to make the sound feel natural as well as sound natural, and keep the focus at the stage. We'll use multiple speaker arrays and delays just to keep the appearance of all the sound coming from the singer. It isn't just about louder. Mechanical changes to a room, while they may let the singer be heard and understood better, don't always keep the appearance up. Parabolic ceilings tend help the voice carry further back, but at the expense of putting the 'origin' of the sound up rather than forward, and adding a bit of a delay. In today's larger houses, sometimes the technical and electrical amplification is not only cheaper, but actually a far better solution. Its either that or try to convince folk that they can repeatedly sell a much smaller house and just make less money... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060102135040.00cff7e8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:50:40 From: CB Subject: Re: Be Happy healthy and safe >Well, maybe. If a respected critic says, of my lighting, "the LD couldn't >light a match in a coal-hole", I suppose that counts as a professional obituary. >Except, of course, that some other equally respected critic will say Hmm... First, if you are reading the criticisms, well, you're already going down the wrong path. I never did trust 'em, not when you can get two 'experts' at the same show, one saying how horrible it was while the other says how great it was. Some people just don't like brussel sprouts o matter how good the dish. Secondly, a bad review is an advertisement. "Look who's working!" Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <86.35d2317d.30eb11c6 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:31:18 EST Subject: Re: Operatic amplification, redux In a message dated 02/01/06 20:11:42 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > I'm not sure that there is a huge difference in miking the singers and > changing the acoutic properties in the room, if the end result is the same. I think there is. It is done from different principles. Modifying the room acoustic involves changing the gross reverberation time: changing the ratio of direct-to-reflcted sound: changing the reflected sound from specular (i.e echoes) to diffuse. And, for all singers everywhere on stage. Old opera houses often got this right, with bow-fronted boxes and balconies, and all the encrusted ornaments. Eigentones would be lost in such an environment. But, once you have found the right answers, you can leave it alone. > Quite often, even in musical theatre, the 'sound re-inforcement' is just > that, it helps far more in the back rows and the balconies than it does in > the orchestra seats. We try to make the sound feel natural as well as > sound natural, and keep the focus at the stage. We'll use multiple speaker > arrays and delays just to keep the appearance of all the sound coming from > the singer. I'm sure you will, and do it well. But it transfers the responsibility from where it should lie. Were I the MD of an opera company, I should regard myself as solely responsible for what the audience hears. I should bitterly resent having a sound mixer taking the final decision. It would be a resignation matter. It isn't just about louder. > Mechanical changes to a room, while they may let the singer be heard and > understood better, don't always keep the appearance up. Parabolic ceilings > tend help the voice carry further back, but at the expense of putting the > 'origin' of the sound up rather than forward, and adding a bit of a delay. > In today's larger houses, sometimes the technical and electrical > amplification is not only cheaper, but actually a far better solution. Cheaper, maybe; better, indeed any sort of a solution, no. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:20:26 -0600 From: Patrick Immel Subject: CAD library for Theatre Happy New Year All, I have been farting around with this project for the past year and have finally decided to finalize it! I have created a web site: CAD Library for Theatre http://www.patrickimmel.com/cadlibrary/cadindex.htm I have put quite a few of my Vectorworks 3D objects up for people to download and use. The library is small but it is my hope that people will provide their own work to help the library grow! Currently I have categories for VW 2D, 3D and AutoCAD 2D. Anything is welcome...lighting symbols/blocks, sound...you name it, I'll find a category for it and put it online! If you would like to contribute to the library, please send me your object(s) as an email attachment to this account, salukitd [at] gmail.com. Thanks! -- Patrick Immel Lighting and Scenic Designer Northwest Missouri State University patrickimmel.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41f080680601021949s6ecdd6e7m95e290380edcfbf3 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 22:49:17 -0500 From: Eric Rouse Subject: Re: CAD library for Theatre In-Reply-To: References: V29uZGVyZnVsbCBpZGVhIFBhdHJpY2shICBUaGlzIGNvdWxkIGJlY29tZSB2ZXJ5IGJpZyBpZiBm b2xrcyByZWFsaXplCnRoZSBwb3RlbnRpYWwgaXQgaGFzIHRvIHNoYXJlIGhvdXJzIG9mIGRyYXdp bmcgdGltZS4gIEFueSByZWFzb24geW91CmRvbid0IGhhdmUgYSAzZCBBdXRvY2FkIGFyZWE/CgpF cmljCgpPbiAxLzIvMDYsIFBhdHJpY2sgSW1tZWwgPHNhbHVraXRkQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6 Cj4gRm9yIGluZm8sIGFyY2hpdmVzICYgVU5TVUJTQ1JJQkUsIHNlZSA8aHR0cDovL3N0YWdlY3Jh ZnQudGhlcHJpY2VzLm5ldC8+Cj4gLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tCj4KPiBIYXBweSBOZXcgWWVhciBBbGwsCj4KPiBJIGhhdmUgYmVlbiBm YXJ0aW5nIGFyb3VuZCB3aXRoIHRoaXMgcHJvamVjdCBmb3IgdGhlIHBhc3QgeWVhciBhbmQKPiBo YXZlIGZpbmFsbHkgZGVjaWRlZCB0byBmaW5hbGl6ZSBpdCEgIEkgaGF2ZSBjcmVhdGVkIGEgd2Vi IHNpdGU6ICBDQUQKPiBMaWJyYXJ5IGZvciBUaGVhdHJlCj4gaHR0cDovL3d3dy5wYXRyaWNraW1t ZWwuY29tL2NhZGxpYnJhcnkvY2FkaW5kZXguaHRtCj4KPiBJIGhhdmUgcHV0IHF1aXRlIGEgZmV3 IG9mIG15IFZlY3RvcndvcmtzIDNEIG9iamVjdHMgdXAgZm9yIHBlb3BsZSB0bwo+IGRvd25sb2Fk IGFuZCB1c2UuICBUaGUgbGlicmFyeSBpcyBzbWFsbCBidXQgaXQgaXMgbXkgaG9wZSB0aGF0IHBl b3BsZQo+IHdpbGwgcHJvdmlkZSB0aGVpciBvd24gd29yayB0byBoZWxwIHRoZSBsaWJyYXJ5IGdy b3chICBDdXJyZW50bHkgSQo+IGhhdmUgY2F0ZWdvcmllcyBmb3IgVlcgMkQsIDNEIGFuZCBBdXRv Q0FEIDJELiAgQW55dGhpbmcgaXMKPiB3ZWxjb21lLi4ubGlnaHRpbmcgc3ltYm9scy9ibG9ja3Ms IHNvdW5kLi4ueW91IG5hbWUgaXQsIEknbGwgZmluZCBhCj4gY2F0ZWdvcnkgZm9yIGl0IGFuZCBw dXQgaXQgb25saW5lIQo+Cj4gSWYgeW91IHdvdWxkIGxpa2UgdG8gY29udHJpYnV0ZSB0byB0aGUg bGlicmFyeSwgcGxlYXNlIHNlbmQgbWUgeW91cgo+IG9iamVjdChzKSBhcyBhbiBlbWFpbCBhdHRh Y2htZW50IHRvIHRoaXMgYWNjb3VudCwgc2FsdWtpdGRAZ21haWwuY29tLgo+Cj4gVGhhbmtzIQo+ Cj4gLS0KPiBQYXRyaWNrIEltbWVsCj4gTGlnaHRpbmcgYW5kIFNjZW5pYyBEZXNpZ25lcgo+IE5v cnRod2VzdCBNaXNzb3VyaSBTdGF0ZSBVbml2ZXJzaXR5Cj4gcGF0cmlja2ltbWVsLmNvbQo+CgoK LS0KRXJpYyBSb3VzZQpURC1QZW5uIFN0YXRlIFVuaXZlcnNpdHkKU3RhdGUgQ29sbGVnZSwgUEEK ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:54:54 -0600 From: Patrick Immel Subject: Re: CAD library for Theatre In-Reply-To: References: Thanks Eric! I am all about not having to reivent the wheel! I don't have a AC 3D section because *I* don't use AC!! Gimmee something to put in!!!! fwiw...I am going to be revamping the user interface to a much simpler, plain html layout. Pat On 1/2/06, Eric Rouse wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > Wonderfull idea Patrick! This could become very big if folks realize > the potential it has to share hours of drawing time. Any reason you > don't have a 3d Autocad area? > > Eric > > On 1/2/06, Patrick Immel wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Happy New Year All, > > > > I have been farting around with this project for the past year and > > have finally decided to finalize it! I have created a web site: CAD > > Library for Theatre > > http://www.patrickimmel.com/cadlibrary/cadindex.htm > > > > I have put quite a few of my Vectorworks 3D objects up for people to > > download and use. The library is small but it is my hope that people > > will provide their own work to help the library grow! Currently I > > have categories for VW 2D, 3D and AutoCAD 2D. Anything is > > welcome...lighting symbols/blocks, sound...you name it, I'll find a > > category for it and put it online! > > > > If you would like to contribute to the library, please send me your > > object(s) as an email attachment to this account, salukitd [at] gmail.com. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > Patrick Immel > > Lighting and Scenic Designer > > Northwest Missouri State University > > patrickimmel.com > > > > > -- > Eric Rouse > TD-Penn State University > State College, PA > -- Patrick Immel Lighting and Scenic Designer Northwest Missouri State University patrickimmel.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <53f8573e3e2dffce5e5b32057c90f9d0 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Electrics call Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 23:23:23 -0500 ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote: > they are easier to handle than convicts and they follow directions > more readily Speak for yourself, one of the most attentive crews I ever had work for me were hard time convicts from a NY state prison. They would work "community service" to reduce sentences. They figured loading in sound and lighting for a policeman's benefit with a big name country star was WAY better than working along side a road cleaning up trash. They were VERY polite and addressed me as "sir" even though I was 23 at the time and many of them were in their 40's and 50's. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060102220124.tzqsdoo4coc08gw0 [at] www.email.arizona.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 22:01:24 -0700 From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Know your tools References: In-Reply-To: Stolen from the Chicago Craigslist... For men who think they know about tools: 1. DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings your beer across the room, splattering itagainst that freshly painted part you were drying. 2. WIRE WHEEL: Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprint whorls and hard-earned guitar calluses in about the time it takes you to say, "shit!" 3. ELECTRIC HAND DRILL: Normally used for spinning pop rivets in their holes until you die of old age. 4. PLIERS: Used to round off hexagonal bolt heads. 5. HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board principle: It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes. 6. VISE GRIP PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand. 7. OXYACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for setting various flammable objects in your shop on fire. Also handy for igniting the grease inside a wheel hub you're trying to get the bearing race out of. 8. WHITWORTH SOCKETS: Once used for working on older British cars and motorcycles, they are now used mainly for impersonating that 9/16" or 1/2" socket you've been searching for the last 15 minutes. 9. HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering an automobile to the ground After you have installed your new disk brake pads, trapping the jack handle firmly under the bumper. 10. EIGHT-FOOT LONG DOUGLAS FIR 4X4: Used to attempt to lever an automobile upward off a hydraulic jack handle. 11. TWEEZERS: A tool for removing splinters of wood, especially Douglas fir. 12. TELEPHONE: Tool for calling your neighbor to see if he has another hydraulic floor jack. 13. SNAP-ON GASKET SCRAPER: Theoretically useful as a sandwich tool for spreading mayonnaise; used mainly for removing dog feces from your boots. 14. E-Z OUT BOLT AND STUD EXTRACTOR: A tool that snaps off in bolt holes and is ten times harder than any known drill bit. 15. TWO-TON HYDRAULIC ENGINE HOIST: A handy tool for testing the tensile strength of bolts and fuel lines you forgot to disconnect. 16. CRAFTSMAN 1/2" x 16" SCREWDRIVER: A large motor mount prying tool that inexplicably has an accurately machined screwdriver tip on the end without the handle. 17 AVIATION METAL SNIPS: See hacksaw. 18. TROUBLE LIGHT: The home builder's own tanning booth. Sometimes called drop light, it is a good source of vitamin D, "the sunshine vitamin," which is not otherwise found under cars at night. Health benefits aside, its main purpose is to consume 40-watt light bulbs at about the same rate that 105-mm howitzer shells might be used during, say, the first few hours of the Battle of the Bulge. More often dark than light, its name is somewhat misleading. 19. PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the lids of old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and squirt oil on your shirt; can also be used, as the name implies, to round off the interiors of Phillips screw heads. 20. AIR COMPRESSOR: A machine that takes energy produced in a coal-burning power plant 200 miles away and transforms it into compressed air that travels by hose to an pneumatic impact wrench that grips rusty bolts last tightened 70 years ago by someone at Ford, and rounds them off. 21. PRY BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part. 22. HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to cut hoses 1/2 inch too short. 23. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer now-a-days is used as a kind of divining rod to locate expensive parts not far from the object we are trying to hit. 24. MECHANIC'S KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly well on boxes containing upholstered items, chrome-plated metal, plastic parts and the other hand not holding the knife. 25. ANY MULTI-TOOL, usually offered on TV infomercials purported to fit any size nut, bolt, screw, smooth, slotted, hexagonal, square, Teflon, ridged, slick all for only $19.95 and "if you order now you get two of them (because they are so cheap and useless, we even feel guilty about selling them to you)": Alternate uses: good paperweight, pretty good trot line weight. good glass breaker if you're trapped in your car, and the best use of all...just something to throw that not even the dog will bring back. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music 520-621-7025 520-591-1803 Mobile ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 23:14:40 -0600 From: Patrick Immel Subject: CAD Library for Theatre VERSION TWO Here is a new link to the CAD Library: http://www.patrickimmel.com/cad_library/cadindex.htm I changed to a simpler user interface! Please send questions and comments. Also I'd like to send a BIG thanks to Noah Price for hosting this page! Thanks, Pat -- Patrick Immel Lighting and Scenic Designer Northwest Missouri State University patrickimmel.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060103085701.52813.qmail [at] web50714.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:57:01 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Sorensen Subject: OT: Wile E. Coyote blueprints? In-Reply-To: Ok, here's a totally off the wall request. A buddy of mine who is a TD is a huge Wile E. Coyote fan and will be turning 40 this year. I'd love to get him a set of the blueprints that the SuperGenius uses in his attempts to catch dinner (the Roadrunner and Bugs and the sheep). My Google attempts have failed and so have other inquiries. I figure if anyone has them, someone in this group would. So, anyone know where to find them? Also, I'm looking for a copy of the ACME catalog that the Coyote orders from...I seem to remember one got published about the time that Who Framed Roger Rabbit came out... Thanks! Michael Sorensen "It's all just a scam, isn't it? You get those actors to put on a show, just so you can have a good reason to play with your toys." --Christopher Stasheff, "A Slight Detour" Proton Lighting and Video "We positively charge up your show!" 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