Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 26405211; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:01:34 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #642 Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:00:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #642 1. Re: Herbal cigars, anyone? by Jim Hyslop 2. Re: Herbal cigars, anyone? by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 3. Re: Herbal cigars, anyone? by Bill Sapsis 4. Re: VW FILE CONVERSION - THANKS by Patrick McCreary 5. Theatre Scholarships by "Mike Burnett" 6. Re: Herbal cigars, anyone? by "Stephen E. Rees" 7. Re: VW FILE CONVERSION by John Penisten 8. Re: Herbal cigars, anyone? by "Paul Guncheon" 9. Re: Herbal cigars, anyone? by "Dre Suchoski" 10. Wiggly lights gone bad by Mark O'Brien 11. Re: Power Runs by Paul Marsland 12. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by Bill Sapsis 13. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by Stephen Litterst 14. Re: OT: Wile E. Coyote blueprints? by doran [at] bard.edu 15. Re: Now why haven't we tried this? by "Paul Schreiner" 16. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by Bill Sapsis 17. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by Stephen Litterst 18. Re: Theatre Scholarships by Davy Davis 19. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by "Paul Sanow" 20. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by John McKernon 21. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by Bill Sapsis 22. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by Bill Sapsis 23. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by Greg Bierly 24. Help by "Maurice Moe Conn" 25. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by Greg Bierly 26. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by John McKernon 27. Seagull by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 28. Re: Seagull by Steve Larson 29. Re: Now why haven't we tried this? by MissWisc [at] aol.com 30. Re: Help by Scott Parker 31. Re: Help by Ken Romaine 32. Re: Wiggly lights gone bad by "Jon Lagerquist" 33. 2D AutoCAD by "Christopher K. Nimm" 34. Re: 2D AutoCAD by "Peter Scheu" 35. Re: 2D AutoCAD by "Eric Huss" 36. Garbled message by CB 37. Re: Power runs by CB 38. Re: Garbled message by Patrick Immel 39. Re: Operatic amplification, redux by CB 40. Re: Seagull by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 41. Re: Seagull by "Wild, Larry" 42. Re: Operatic amplification, redux by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 43. Re: Power runs by seanrmc [at] earthlink.net *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <43BBB577.4070800 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 06:45:59 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Herbal cigars, anyone? References: In-Reply-To: Maurice Moe Conn wrote: > Oh Google give me this... > > http://www.marijuanaalternatives.com/herbal-blunts.htm A couple of noteworthy items from the "Cautions" section on that page: "Do not attempt to drive or operate machinery after using this product or attempt to smoke it all at one time." This suggests to me the cigars might have some potential intoxicating effects, so further investigation might be required (unless you want stoned actors). Any volunteers? :=) (BTW, anyone else think "Cheech and Chong" when they read 'attempt to smoke it all at one time'?) and: "Herbal Blunts(TM) carry the same health warnings as tobacco" - yep, sounds to me like _someone_ is saying "smoking is smoking". -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Herbal cigars, anyone? Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 07:24:11 -0500 Message-ID: <00a501c61129$c57c5930$6701a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > further investigation might be > required (unless you want stoned actors) Let he who is without sin get the first cast stoned. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:45:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Herbal cigars, anyone? From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: On 1/4/06 7:24 AM, "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > >> further investigation might be >> required (unless you want stoned actors) > > Let he who is without sin get the first cast stoned. > Harrrumph. Guess I'll be working on the second cast... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:26:41 -0500 From: Patrick McCreary Subject: Re: VW FILE CONVERSION - THANKS In-reply-to: Message-id: <5.2.1.1.1.20060104082439.01dbb1e0 [at] incoming.verizon.net> References: At 09:25 PM 1/3/2006 -0500, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >I have a couple of VW 11 files I need converted back to 9.5 - anyone willing? THANK YOU ALL for your offers - they are in the capable hands of Mr. Herrick Goldman. I should have thought of the list two weeks ago. Patrick. >G. Patrick McCreary >Ass't. Professor - Technical Director >Department of Theater and Dance >Indiana University of Pennsylvania >Indiana, PA 15701 >(Office) 724-357-2644 >(Home) 724-349-4309 G. Patrick McCreary Ass't. Professor - Technical Director Department of Theater and Dance Indiana University of Pennsylvania Indiana, PA 15701 (Office) 724-357-2644 (Home) 724-349-4309 ------------------------------ Subject: Theatre Scholarships Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:36:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Mike Burnett" Greetings all, We are currently discussing changing the format of our Theatre Scholarships/Grants and I am looking for some input from the list. Currently, our scholarship students have to participate in production (i.e. actors have to act, designers design, etc...). While in theory this system works, the breakdown comes in that there is not equity in the number of hours put in for the grant. If we were to log the hours, some students would log way more hours for less scholarship money. This system also created a "well if I am going to do a show because I am a major, I might as well get paid for it" attitude. What we are looking at is that we remove the performance participation (they should be doing that anyways because they are theatre students...right??) and go with a straight hourly system with the work being done in one of the theatre shops. The way our system is set up, we have to get something back from the students (this is a campus wide policy on these types of scholarships). Art and Music both require their students putting in some hours working for the department. So, what do you all do for your theatre scholarships/grants? Thanks, MB ________________________________________________________________________ _ Mike Burnett, M.F.A. Assistant Professor of Theatre Chair, Department of Theatre =20 Huntington University Impact your World...for Christ...in Scholarship...through Service =20 260-359-4279 office 260-359-4249 fax =20 mburnett [at] huntington.edu www.huntington.edu/theatre =20 =20 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. =20 Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers =20 Galatians 6:9-10=20 =20 "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." --Hamlet (I, v, 166-167) =20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43BBD162.5000507 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:45:06 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Herbal cigars, anyone? References: A paper and party supply store here has fake cigars and cigarettes the eject very light puffs of "smoke" when blown into. Very convincing even in our small black-box theatre. No combustion of any sort required. Bought a mess of them to have on hand. Will try to find a manufacturer when the store opens later this A.M. and post that. Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Dre Suchoski wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello folks! > In an upcoming production we need to smoke several cigars, [snip] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <87e6786e0601040609o56964fa1p384055c81a2270f9 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:09:00 -0600 From: John Penisten Subject: Re: VW FILE CONVERSION In-Reply-To: References:

I would be more than willing. You can send them to me at this address, or john [at] fullcompass.com. John On 1/3/06, Patrick McCreary wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have a couple of VW 11 files I need converted back to 9.5 - anyone will= ing? > > Patrick > G. Patrick McCreary > Ass't. Professor - Technical Director > Department of Theater and Dance > Indiana University of Pennsylvania > Indiana, PA 15701 > (Office) 724-357-2644 > (Home) 724-349-4309 > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 04:15:33 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Herbal cigars, anyone? Message-id: <000601c50d1f$7df01340$1e8aea48 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: First of all, Happy New Year to you all... be healthy and make lots of good choices. > Smoking a "Real" Cigar or Herbal Cigar either way it is still smoking, > So why is Herbal Ok? Its still smoking Right? Drinking vodka or drinking water, either way it's still drinking... Smoking tobacco introduces the most addictive substance known to man (among other things) into the smoker's bloodstream. Smoking herbs does not, althhough it's probably not very good for you either. Methinks what you really mean is that you "want" to smoke several cigars. Laters, Paul "Hand me that file" Tom rasped. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Herbal cigars, anyone? Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 09:27:25 -0500 Message-ID: <071168C3EF37C34580207EB53478A0F7154B53 [at] stage.OTC.local> From: "Dre Suchoski" Cc: Rees [at] fredonia.edu OK, I realize smoking is still smoking, and I wasn't the one who chose a show in the vein of Charley's Aunt where smoking a cigar is a *must* for action onstage...=20 Do you think the party supply cigars would hold up to the end being cut off onstage? I know it might be something that can easily be faked/palmed/etc. but this director will want the actor to actually cut the tip - is the powder/smoke stuff right in the tip and would get cut off? Otherwise this sounds like the best alternative so far! Dre -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Stephen E. Rees Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:45 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Herbal cigars, anyone? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- A paper and party supply store here has fake cigars and cigarettes the eject very light puffs of "smoke" when blown into. Very convincing even in our small black-box theatre. No combustion of any sort required.=20 Bought a mess of them to have on hand. Will try to find a manufacturer when the store opens later this A.M. and post that. Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Dre Suchoski wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Hello folks! > In an upcoming production we need to smoke several cigars, [snip] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060104074625.8dd2coow404s84kw [at] www.email.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 07:46:25 -0700 From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Wiggly lights gone bad References:

In-Reply-To: An article in the LA times today http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-pylons4jan04,0,7207872.story?coll=la-home-headlines http://tinyurl.com/9klhx I think you have to register... The fix will include small LED lights that will make electricians' lives easier, save $960,000 in annual maintenance and cut yearly energy costs by 75% ? adding up to a $7.5-million savings over their 10-year life cycle, officials said. The $1,000 LED lights have no moving parts, and all technicians will need to do is replace them when they burn out. The current pylon lighting system features myriad 18-by-18-inch stage lights that are difficult to install and service. To fix one, electricians have to hang upside down from a harness attached to a nearby railing to pull out the fixture's insides. "It was state-of-the-art technology five years ago," said Charlie Sipple, construction and maintenance manager for the airport agency. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music 520-621-7025 520-591-1803 Mobile ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060104145137.64616.qmail [at] web52201.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 06:51:37 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Marsland Subject: Re: Power Runs In-Reply-To: Years ago we made a few orchestra snakes using SJOOW 12/3 cable, standard metal single gang boxes and romex connectors. First duplex outlet in the snake was a GFI. An Ideal cable slitter made the subsequent connections almost painless. All of the metal parts we cleaned, primed and painted, and all of the parts that might loosen got a shot of RTV. To date, the only problem was a failed GFI outlet. If your labor is free or close to it, you might go this route; were I to do it over now, I would go with the LEX orchestra snakes. Paul __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL � Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 09:59:34 -0500 Subject: Re: Wiggly lights gone bad From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: The fixtures may have been state of the art five years ago but the method of repair was just plain stupid. Why would anyone tolerate that sort of thing? Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 1/4/06 9:46 AM, "Mark O'Brien" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > An article in the LA times today > > http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-pylons4jan04,0,7207872.story?coll=la-h > ome-headlines > > http://tinyurl.com/9klhx > > I think you have to register... > > > The fix will include small LED lights that will make electricians' > lives easier, > save $960,000 in annual maintenance and cut yearly energy costs by 75% ? > adding up to a $7.5-million savings over their 10-year life cycle, officials > said. The $1,000 LED lights have no moving parts, and all technicians > will need > to do is replace them when they burn out. > > The current pylon lighting system features myriad 18-by-18-inch stage lights > that are difficult to install and service. To fix one, electricians have to > hang upside down from a harness attached to a nearby railing to pull out the > fixture's insides. > > "It was state-of-the-art technology five years ago," said Charlie Sipple, > construction and maintenance manager for the airport agency. > > > > > Mark O'Brien > Opera Technical Director > University of Arizona, School of Music > 520-621-7025 > 520-591-1803 Mobile > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 10:02:16 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Wiggly lights gone bad In-reply-to: Message-id: <43BBE378.3060003 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Bill Sapsis wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > The fixtures may have been state of the art five years ago but the method of > repair was just plain stupid. Why would anyone tolerate that sort of thing? Bill, you know as well as the rest of us that the people who approve the design aren't the guys going in to repair it. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1136388513.43bbe9a1340d8 [at] webmail.bard.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:28:33 -0500 From: doran [at] bard.edu Subject: Re: OT: Wile E. Coyote blueprints? References: In-Reply-To: Michael, I can't help with the prints, but for _Acme v. Coyote_, try this link. http://www.jamesfuqua.com/lawyers/jokes/coyote-acme.shtml It's the title piece in this 1996 collection of Ian Frazier columns. Good luck, Andy C-D Quoting Michael Sorensen : > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Ok, here's a totally off the wall request. A buddy of > mine who is a TD is a huge Wile E. Coyote fan and will > be turning 40 this year. I'd love to get him a set of > the blueprints that the SuperGenius uses in his > attempts to catch dinner > Michael Sorensen > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. > http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ > ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Now why haven't we tried this? Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:41:37 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9A89 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > > "Not intended for use as ear plugs." > > Should I even ask who tried? >=20 > Actually... As a child I was plagued with ear infections. =20 > Being on the=20 > swim team the pediatrician recommended I use silly putty as ear plugs=20 > and did so for 6 years or so (age 8-14) without any ill effects....=20 > yet. Anyone know a "good" lawyer ;-) I had to wear plugs for nearly seven years as I had tubes inserted in my eardrums just before my seventh birthday. In color, texture, and bounce, they were an almost dead ringer for Silly Putty (though I never tried transferring comic strips from the newspaper with them). My best guess is that the current warning against using them as ear plugs has more to do with noise reduction expectations than it does water-repellent ones... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:21:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Wiggly lights gone bad From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: On 1/4/06 10:02 AM, "Stephen Litterst" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Bill Sapsis wrote: >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> The fixtures may have been state of the art five years ago but the method of >> repair was just plain stupid. Why would anyone tolerate that sort of thing? > > Bill, you know as well as the rest of us that the people who approve > the design aren't the guys going in to repair it. > > Steve L. You are right. I do know that. What I was referring to was why the technicians who were asked (told) to do the work agreed to actually do it. You cannot always simply blame some designer or architect. They do not always know what the real deal is, that's true, but don't you think that there should be some reliance on the staff , when saddled with an onerous situation, should report the issues back up to the brass and require a fix to the problem? Thanks Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:37:12 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Wiggly lights gone bad In-reply-to: Message-id: <43BBF9B8.8020004 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Bill Sapsis wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > You are right. I do know that. What I was referring to was why the > technicians who were asked (told) to do the work agreed to actually do it. > > You cannot always simply blame some designer or architect. They do not > always know what the real deal is, that's true, but don't you think that > there should be some reliance on the staff , when saddled with an onerous > situation, should report the issues back up to the brass and require a fix > to the problem? I agree completely that there *should* be some reliance on the staff. But I've also been in far too many jobs/venues where there isn't that sort of planning going into the renovation, and once the situation exists the staff are told to do the work or find other work. It's a horrid practice, but it's still out there despite the best efforts of this list. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 09:43:55 -0700 From: Davy Davis Subject: Re: Theatre Scholarships In-reply-to: Message-id: <43BBFB4B.30501 [at] du.edu> Organization: DU Theatre References: At the University of Denver they are required to be Theatre Majors. No specific hours required above and beyond the hours required for being a major. But that is pretty extensive. Davy Mike Burnett wrote: > We are currently discussing changing the format of our Theatre > Scholarships/Grants and I am looking for some input from the list. > > > So, what do you all do for your theatre scholarships/grants? -- William Temple (Davy) Davis; Chair Department of Theatre University of Denver ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Wiggly lights gone bad Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:00:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Paul Sanow" > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > The fixtures may have been state of the art five years ago=20 > but the method of > repair was just plain stupid. Why would anyone tolerate that=20 > sort of thing? >=20 Interesting. If one does a little digging you can find that some = parties involved back in 2000 still have a fair amount of detail on = their sites about this project. http://livedesignonline.com/mag/lighting_lax_files/index.html A little googling found some 3d modeling and sketches of the design. = Even a CDM lamp with a rated life around 10,000 hours will need to be = replaced every year or three. All these automateds need some kind of = maintenance from time to time. That's a lot of technology that is hard = to access. Oh, and isn't it kind of warm in LA? I wonder how warm it = really was inside of these columns. LEDs do seem like a much better method now. Certainly less to fail. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:37:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Wiggly lights gone bad From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > A little googling found some 3d modeling and sketches of the design. Even a > CDM lamp with a rated life around 10,000 hours will need to be replaced every > year or three. All these automateds need some kind of maintenance from time > to time. That's a lot of technology that is hard to access. Oh, and isn't it > kind of warm in LA? I wonder how warm it really was inside of these columns. > > LEDs do seem like a much better method now. Certainly less to fail. Yes, but LED's are actually quite sensitive to heat, too - and I would think that California summer sunshine would make it pretty toasty inside those columns. However, I also trust that the folks involved know what they're doing! - John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:53:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Wiggly lights gone bad From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: On 1/4/06 11:37 AM, "Stephen Litterst" wrote: > It's a horrid practice, but it's still out there despite the best > efforts of this list. Yeah, well, it's good to remember that it's illegal for an employer to require an employee to do something that is dangerous or illegal. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:31:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Wiggly lights gone bad From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: On 1/4/06 12:37 PM, "John McKernon" wrote: > However, I also trust that the folks involved know what they're doing! Maybe I'm a bit of an old man and maybe I'm a bit cynical (OK, I'm an old cynical sob, but my experience tells me to assume exactly the opposite. That way, when I'm surprised it's on the good side. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <91e6b942756fb1336730772bae48e074 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Wiggly lights gone bad Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:02:54 -0500 John McKernon wrote: > However, I also trust that the folks involved know what they're doing! You forgot the smiley after that! ;-) Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Maurice Moe Conn" Subject: Help Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:05:49 +0000 My work has changed E-mail accounts and I have been recieveing the List in Digest format at that address, Single post at this one. SO I thought I would be a good little technician and unsubscribe from the Digest, Right? Seems the new program will not let me send from the old address: mconn [at] cumberlancollege.edu which will remain active for 6 weeks. Any suggestions? Thanks Moe Long Reach Long Riders announce dates for the 2006 Charlty Ride. Check out www.lrlr.org for more information ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Wiggly lights gone bad Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:15:43 -0500 Bill Sapsis wrote: > You are right. I do know that. What I was referring to was why the > technicians who were asked (told) to do the work agreed to actually do > it. That is probably why the columns have been out on a regular basis. No one dumb enough or paid well enough to climb inside one of those. I am sure you have a couple of guys around SRI that for the right money would have flown out to service them once a month. > Yeah, well, it's good to remember that it's illegal for an employer to > require an employee to do something that is dangerous or illegal. Don't you sell an air-conditioned harness for working upside down safely in a 100+ degree tube? ;-) On that note I'll refer everyone to one of my favorite web sites again. This photo is totally applicable. http://safetycenter.navy.mil/photo/archive/photo174.htm Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:17:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Wiggly lights gone bad From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: >> However, I also trust that the folks involved know what they're doing! > > You forgot the smiley after that! ;-) Actually, it's more like ...;) (Given the air quality around LAX) - John ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <259.4a47f14.30ed7d59 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:34:49 EST Subject: Seagull As I said, I have posted four pictures of a production of Chekhov's "The Seagull", one of each act. It was the Irish version, re-wrillen by Thomas Keneally. My pictures of the older ones are still on slides, and I have no slide scanner. The combination of my photography and the web site's 512KB limitation has made them less good, but you can see what is being done. They can be found on photobucket.com, under the name 'frankwood', in the album 'qpix'. I shall put them on the gallery when I find out how. A number of my other shows also figure there. I should be interested to hear some feedback. Just how many of us see other peoples' work. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:10:16 -0500 Subject: Re: Seagull From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I visited the site. It said there were no pics there. Steve > From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:34:49 EST > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Seagull > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > As I said, I have posted four pictures of a production of Chekhov's "The > Seagull", one of each act. It was the Irish version, re-wrillen by Thomas > Keneally. My pictures of the older ones are still on slides, and I have no > slide > scanner. > > The combination of my photography and the web site's 512KB limitation has > made them less good, but you can see what is being done. > > They can be found on photobucket.com, under the name 'frankwood', in the > album 'qpix'. I shall put them on the gallery when I find out how. A number of > my > other shows also figure there. I should be interested to hear some feedback. > Just how many of us see other peoples' work. > > > Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <59.3550010e.30ed8940 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:25:36 EST Subject: Re: Now why haven't we tried this? _pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu_ (mailto:pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu) writes: << My best guess is that the current warning against using them as ear plugs has more to do with noise reduction expectations than it does water-repellent ones...>> I'd guess it's more of a CYA against law suits. A la "This package may contain peanuts." on the side of the peanut package. Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980601041250w71e6ac58u974d14c52f7e77c0 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:50:30 -0500 From: Scott Parker Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: References: As soon as your old address bounces, the server should delete the address. Scott On 1/4/06, Maurice Moe Conn wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > My work has changed E-mail accounts and I have been recieveing the List i= n > Digest format at that address, -- Take care, Scott =09Scott C. Parker =09Professor/Technical Director =09Dept. of Performing Arts =09Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University =09Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F =09Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza =09New York, NY 10038 =09212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:12:57 -0500 From: Ken Romaine Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: References: Moe: Go here: http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ Click on the "Unsubscribe" link on the left sude of the page, fill out and submit the form, and viola! -- Ken Romaine Business Development Manager Barco Media & Entertainment The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how much I want to impose them on the rest of the world. On 1/4/06, Maurice Moe Conn wrote: > My work has changed E-mail accounts and I have been recieveing the List i= n > Digest format at that address, Single post at this one. SO I thought I > would be a good little technician and unsubscribe from the Digest, Right? > Seems the new program will not let me send from the old address: > mconn [at] cumberlancollege.edu which will remain active for 6 weeks. > > > Any suggestions? ------------------------------ From: "Jon Lagerquist" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:37:45 -0800 Subject: Re: Wiggly lights gone bad Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com Message-ID: <43BBCFA9.23225.1B1A22E7 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: References: Personally I question the veracity of the source. I could easily see how having to wear a harness and lean over a rail to work on a light (think balcony rail) could turn into a media person saying "upside down in a harness". Now I have not seen the inside of these critters so it could be true, but I would be surprised. Jon Lagerquist Technical Director [at] South Coast Repertory Costa Mesa, CA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001301c61176$757542b0$6401a8c0 [at] nutkin> From: "Christopher K. Nimm" Subject: 2D AutoCAD Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:33:09 -0600 I'm using AutoCAD to create a 2D light plot. So far, so good. However, I noticed that when measuring the length of a line with the "dist" command that it shows the incorrect distance: an x length, a y length and a z length. Upon further investigation, I discovered that my flat two-dimensional drawing was not truly two dimensional--there were several "levels" of 2D drawings spread over the z-axis. Look at it this way: if I were to rotate my 2D drawing and look at it from the front or side, I should see one single line. Rather, I see several lines. My question: how can I smash all of those levels into just one level? Is there an AutoCAD command that allows me to do that? Or do I need to manually move everything into one plane? Chris Nimm ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Subject: RE: 2D AutoCAD Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:43:37 -0500 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: In-reply-to: Christopher K. Nimm wrote: >My question: how can I smash all of those levels into just one=20 >level? Is there an AutoCAD command that allows me to do that?=20 >Or do I need to manually move everything into one plane? It depends on what you were doing before you did all that, or how you created the line. It sounds like somewhere, somehow you may have arrayed = the line on top of itself (in a row or column) multiple times with a 0 = (zero) distance. You may have to erase copies of the line by crossing it to select all = the entities, then remove the top line (type "R" during the selection = process and select a single line by clicking on it, not crossing or windowing = it). Don't know it this is the answer, but hope it helps. Peter Scheu Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. www.scheuconsulting.com Tel: 315.422.9984 fax: 413.513.4966 ------------------------------ Subject: RE: 2D AutoCAD Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:57:47 -0500 Message-ID: <8D0F4F12534EC940AF0C5732BF5BDC061AEBDC [at] smsserver.SMSStudio.local> From: "Eric Huss" Chris Here is your command sequence to flatten a drawing including if it has some other 3 dimensional quality too. Ctrl A (select all) "Change" (initiates change command) "P" enter (to change properties) "E" enter (to change elevation) "0" enter(zero)(to change elevation of the drawing to zero) "T" enter(to change thickness") "0" enter(zero)(to change thickness of the drawing to zero) enter (to finish command) This will solve ALL your dimensioning problems and snapping problems. We run into this problem often from architects that use other versions of AutoDesk programs. Some automatically draw in 3D and the architect often doesn't realize it, or don't care. I hope this helps you. _____________________ =20 Studio: 212-765-4144 =20 _____________________ -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Christopher K. Nimm Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 4:46 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: 2D AutoCAD For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I'm using AutoCAD to create a 2D light plot. So far, so good. However, I=20 noticed that when measuring the length of a line with the "dist" command that it shows the incorrect distance: an x length, a y length and a z=20 length. Upon further investigation, I discovered that my flat=20 two-dimensional drawing was not truly two dimensional--there were several=20 "levels" of 2D drawings spread over the z-axis. Look at it this way: if I were to rotate my 2D drawing and look at it from=20 the front or side, I should see one single line. Rather, I see several=20 lines. My question: how can I smash all of those levels into just one=20 level? Is there an AutoCAD command that allows me to do that? Or do I need=20 to manually move everything into one plane? Chris Nimm=20 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060104154816.00cfb158 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:48:16 From: CB Subject: Garbled message >Would you be kind enough to repost your message in plain text so >those of us in digest mode would be able to share?? I think of those that post in 'code' as secretly corresponding with those that neglect trimming thier replies. They haven't the technical skills to either offer me any new or interesting facts, and won't understand or properly use anything I tell them anyways, so it saves us eac a lot of time. I know that this is only going to be true in a very small percentage of cases, but it lets me scroll on through their posts without guilt or feeling like I'm missing out... ; > Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060104160205.00cfb158 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 16:02:05 From: CB Subject: Re: Power runs > The led in each outlet is a particularly >nice touch when trying to find it in the dark. Yeah, but it really sux if you want to use it on stage. Ya'd think that they'd make one without the LED's as an option, seeing as they show it being used onstage and in an orch pit on their website... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:36:30 -0600 From: Patrick Immel Subject: Re: Garbled message In-Reply-To: References: On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:48:16, CB wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > They haven't the technical skills to > either offer me any new or interesting facts, and won't understand or > properly use anything I tell them anyways, so it saves us eac a lot of ti= me. > Hey now! Be careful what you say my friend! I think there is something about casting <> the first stone in here somewhere! Pat -- Patrick Immel Lighting and Scenic Designer Northwest Missouri State University patrickimmel.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060104162338.00cfb158 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 16:23:38 From: CB Subject: Re: Operatic amplification, redux >In theory, correcting the room is a 'fit and forget' solution. In theory, butterflies and bumblebees can't fly, and neither can helicopters. Theory is all well and good, but none of us get to work there. There are lists that deal in theory, all of us pay rent in the real world. Thanks for playing, tell him what he's won, Johnny! >I didn't say that it wasn't, Hmmm, I wrote, "sometimes the technical and electrical amplification is not only cheaper, but actually a far better solution." Who wrote, "Cheaper, maybe; better, indeed any sort of a solution, no."? It looked like your sig... > Careful design might lead to a switch on the >panel, labelled 'concert hall', 'chamber music', 'opera', 'theatre', and so on. I >think it could be done. Its being done as we speak. I just got an e-mail from Marty down in Fla the other day, and he said, "Anyway I wanted to add the notion of "Electronic Architecture" to the discussion. We had hoped to be a demo hall for Yamaha's AFC (Acoustic Field Control) system which, by using bunches of mics and small speakers, adjusts the reverb time of a room. It is a complex process aiming and tuning but the result is pretty amazing. The demo I went to was great, a single note from an oboe seemed to dwell forever." Later, he mused, "Imagine punching up 'LA Scala' or Music Verien on your console depending on what event you've got in that day." >That said, I still believe that having a sound mixer able to override the MD >is wrong. You've yet to meet some of the MD's I get to deal with. Very, very few of them actually live in the theoretical world, although their grasp of the real world, and the physics implied therein, seem to be somewhat elastic in their little world... >A lot of it is a question of time. Ideally, the MD should relinquish his >baton to the AMD for a full rehearsal, and prowl the theatre, listening hard. >Mutatis mutandis, this is what I do as an LD, looking for problems and devising >solutions. One recent tour I was on, the A1 traded me changing mic batts and distributing and picking up mics for dealing with the MD. I spoke fluent musician, so I agreed. Remember, one of the primary duties of the A2 is to install frsh mic batts before distributing the mics, and then retrieve the mics at the end of the day... Should the MD have the skills, and the verbal skills to translate the colours that he hears into technical requests, I'd be happy to work along with or even for him. Someday I'll meet one. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <292.375c8d6.30edaa9b [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:47:55 EST Subject: Re: Seagull In a message dated 04/01/06 20:10:54 GMT Standard Time, tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com writes: > I visited the site. It said there were no pics there. I'll visit from my wife's machine and address, and report. Being logged on can confuse access. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Seagull Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:16:39 -0600 Message-ID: <79EC830AA6FE144797DDB30DC498593804FEE760 [at] nsu-ex01.nsu.local> From: "Wild, Larry" I went to his site earlier today and had no problem. Frank: You should = title the other shows on the web page.=20 Larry Wild Aberdeen, SD, USA Wildl [at] Northern.edu ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:18:51 EST Subject: Re: Operatic amplification, redux In a message dated 04/01/06 22:48:31 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > >In theory, correcting the room is a 'fit and forget' solution. > > In theory, butterflies and bumblebees can't fly, and neither can > helicopters. Theory is all well and good, but none of us get to work > there. There are lists that deal in theory, all of us pay rent in the real > world. Thanks for playing, tell him what he's won, Johnny! > > >I didn't say that it wasn't, > > Hmmm, I wrote, "sometimes the technical and electrical amplification is not > only cheaper, but actually a far better solution." Who wrote, "Cheaper, > maybe; better, indeed any sort of a solution, no."? It looked like your > sig... I did, and I stand by it.Now you tell me that Yamaha have cracked it. in a later element of this post. All I can say is, maybe. > > > Careful design might lead to a switch on the > >panel, labelled 'concert hall', 'chamber music', 'opera', 'theatre', and > so on. I > >think it could be done. > > Its being done as we speak. I just got an e-mail from Marty down in Fla > the other day, and he said, "Anyway I wanted to add the notion of > "Electronic Architecture" to the discussion. We had hoped to be a demo hall > for Yamaha's AFC (Acoustic Field Control) system which, by using bunches of > mics and small speakers, adjusts the reverb time of a room. It is a complex > process aiming and tuning but the result is pretty amazing. The demo I went > to was great, a single note from an oboe seemed to dwell forever." Later, > he mused, "Imagine punching up 'LA Scala' or Music Verien on your console > depending on what event you've got in that day." Again, maybe. I know enough about it to know that it is a very hard thing to do. If Yamaha have succeeded, I wish them well. > > >That said, I still believe that having a sound mixer able to override the > MD > >is wrong. > > >A lot of it is a question of time. Ideally, the MD should relinquish his > >baton to the AMD for a full rehearsal, and prowl the theatre, listening > hard. > >Mutatis mutandis, this is what I do as an LD, looking for problems and > devising > >solutions. .. > Should the MD have the skills, and the verbal skills to translate the > colours that he hears into technical requests, I'd be happy to work along > with or even for him. Someday I'll meet one. It's not your business. The guy with his back to the audience, waving a baton, is the sound boss. Period. He may be good, or bad: the critics will tell him that. He may need .your advice, but that's all. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4426619.1136434968192.JavaMail.root [at] elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:22:48 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Reply-To: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Subject: Re: Power runs There are attached dust covers that block the leds when used. The leds are also blocked when the outlet is used. --Sean Sean R. McCarthy seanrmc [at] earthlink.net -----Original Message----- >From: CB >Yeah, but it really sux if you want to use it on stage. Ya'd think that >they'd make one without the LED's as an option, seeing as they show it >being used onstage and in an orch pit on their website... > Chris "Chris" Babbie > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #642 *****************************