Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 26474983; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 03:08:44 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #645 Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 03:00:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #645 1. Re: Followspot Boomerang by seanrmc [at] earthlink.net 2. Re: Pipe grid discussion - archives by Eric Rouse 3. Re: Flaming Arrow by Allison Koster 4. Re: Followspot Boomerang by Mitch Hefter 5. Re: Flaming Arrow by CB 6. Re: Flaming Arrow by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 7. Re: Flaming Arrow by Michael Drury *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <9443692.1136651193198.JavaMail.root [at] elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 11:26:33 -0500 (EST) From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Reply-To: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Subject: Re: Followspot Boomerang June... The document the OP mentioned can be found at: http://www.usitt.org/standards/RP-2rev5plusLetter.pdf Followspot information being discussed is at the bottom right of page 8. --Sean Sean R. McCarthy seanrmc [at] earthlink.net >----- Original Message ----- >From: "June Abernathy" > >> Well, I run a spot for a living, and I have always had >> Frame 1 closest to the operator, and have never >> encountered a situation where it was deliberately set >> the other way. Is this USITT document online >> somewhere? Probably a typo, or something not proofread >> well, rather than a deliberate attempt to set a new >> standard, but, you never know . . . >> >> >> June Abernathy ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41f080680601070839h492eb43cg6b260d3660f25573 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 11:39:26 -0500 From: Eric Rouse Subject: Re: Pipe grid discussion - archives In-Reply-To: References:

Thanks guys, got it! Thanks for the offer, Mike! Eric ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.1.20060107103321.022c3be0 [at] pop.luther.edu> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 10:46:52 -0600 From: Allison Koster Subject: re: Flaming Arrow Time to emerge from the shadows to share a small bit of information that might be of some use for adaptation in the Flaming Arrow project. I used to do a lot of summer work with a small community theatre in the midwest who would do a summer musical outdoors. The best thing we found for homemade tiki torches (sometimes used around the perimeter of the grounds) and for flaming torches carried by actors (smart actors only!): sanitary napkins soaked in kerosene. Those puppies will not blow out even in 40 mph wind! Also, the super-absorbant polymer "dust" obtained from modern disposable diapers is useful for creating gels similar to sterno. Not directly applicable to your situation and certainly not materials you should introduce into a lake, but perhaps useful nonetheless. Allison Koster Carleton College Northfield, MN ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060107115000.031ff680 [at] mail.DesignRelief.com> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:20:56 -0600 From: Mitch Hefter Subject: Re: Followspot Boomerang In-Reply-To: References: June Abernathy wrote: > >Is this USITT document online somewhere? Probably a typo, or something not >proofread >well, rather than a deliberate attempt to set a new standard, but, you >never know . . . USITT RP-2 (revision 5), Recommended Practice for Theatrical Lighting Graphics, is available for public review until 5 p.m. Eastern time on March 20, 2006. http://www.usitt.org/standards/UsittRP-2v5.html Anyone can participate - please take the time to do so. It's only 9 pages. Along with the draft document and the ballot, the resolutions to the last public review are also available (only 14 pages). Frame 1 has been noted as farthest from the operator since draft version 2 in the fall of 2000. The original draft and the 1991 document draft 1 was based on did not specify this. Two comments on this matter came in the second public review - one reflected the closest to the operator notation, and the other was supportive of either method. One comment on this subject was made in the 4th public review: "From working in many road houses, color notation works in both directions. I teach my students what you have listed, but also to be flexible when touring." No action was requested nor made. Regards, . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mitch Hefter USITT Standards Committee Office: Entertainment Technology / a Genlyte Company mhefter [at] genlyte.com +1-214/ 647-7880 x 7967 http://www.etdimming.com :: http://www.vari-lite.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060107165952.00cfe790 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 16:59:52 From: CB Subject: Re: Flaming Arrow >I may be wrong, but can't something such as olive oil be used? > >On 1/6/06, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> In a message dated 06/01/06 00:02:47 GMT Standard Time, >> deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com writes: >> >> > Erm, high accuracy may not have been important to the natives who were >> > trying to annihilate the ne-er to well invaders (read >> > settlers/cowboys/cavalry etc!) but I suspect that some modicum of an i= >dea >> of >> > where an arrow might land in the situation as posted by the OP might j= >ust >> be >> > useful....!! >> >> Flaming arrows were intended as an incendiary weapon against wagons and >> buildings, probably with thatched roofs. Hitting large targets like these= > is a very >> different proposition from hitting people fatally, for which you do need >> accuracy. >> >> The original poster said that they were to be aimed to a lake, which ough= >t to >> be difficult to miss. How does olive oil maike it easier to hit a lake? Or did you mean that it would make it easier to miss a lake? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <242.4db85cd.30f1b569 [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:23:05 EST Subject: Re: Flaming Arrow In a message dated 07/01/06 23:03:40 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > How does olive oil maike it easier to hit a lake? Or did you mean that it > would make it easier to miss a lake? The point, made some posts ago, was that the 'flaming' bit would disturb the balance of the arrow, and hence its flight. I shouldn't advise olive oil, as it has a high flashpoint. Perhaps some cheaper cooking oil might serve. As for the thought of using brandy, the mind boggles. Some other spirit might work, although the flames are usually blue. Kerosene is the best bet, environmental considerations apart. And honestly, are the residues of a few flaming arrows really going to damage the environment? Look at the amount of explosive debris deposited in the countryside on July 4th, November 5th, or New Year's Eve. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43C0A817.5060004 [at] peoplepc.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:50:15 -0500 From: Michael Drury Subject: Re: Flaming Arrow References: In-Reply-To: Actually, one of the reasons I mentioned brandy was one would only need a few ounces for the arrows which would leave a fair amount for the pyro. ;>} msd ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #645 *****************************