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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #661

 1. Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #660
    by "Muller, David" <dmuller [at] arts.ucla.edu>
 2. Re: Barrymore's closing
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
 3. Re: Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #660
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
 4. Lightweight headsets URL
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
 5. Re: Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #660
    by Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
 6. Re: Barrymore's closing
    by Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
 7. Cirque Tracks
    by Paul Marsland <paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com>
 8. Re: A great Little Prodcut
    by "Tom Hackman" <hackman [at] davisandelkins.edu>
 9. Ropelights
    by Paul Marsland <paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com>
10. Re: Lightweight headsets URL
    by Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
11. labeling S4's
    by Patrick Immel <salukitd [at] gmail.com>
12. Re: Lightweight headsets URL
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
13. Re: Lightweight Headset URL
    by SS <cueonego [at] gmail.com>
14. Re: labeling S4's
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
15. Re: labeling S4's
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
16. Re: A great Little Prodcut
    by "Paul Sanow" <psanow [at] vls.com>
17. Re: labeling S4's
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
18. Re: labeling S4's
    by Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
19. Re: labeling S4's
    by Andrew Vance <atvanceld [at] gmail.com>
20. Re: labeling S4's
    by "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
21. Re: labeling S4's
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
22. It's happened again....
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
23. free VGA switch
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
24. Re: It's happened again....
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
25. Re: It's happened again....
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
26. Re: free VGA switch
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
27. Re: It's happened again....
    by "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" <roadhat [at] earthlink.net>
28. Re: It's happened again....
    by iaeg [at] aol.com
29. Re: It's happened again....
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
30. Re: It's happened again....
    by "Michael Diederich" <mdiederich [at] mvcc.edu>
31. Re: It's happened again....
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
32. Re: It's happened again....
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
33. Re: It's happened again....
    by "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
34. used phone ringer and dimmers 4 sale
    by Nathan Kahn <nathan.kahn [at] gmail.com>
35. KVM note
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
36. Re: Cirque Tracks
    by "Jared Fortney" <jared.fortney [at] gmail.com>
37. Re: It's happened again....
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
38. Re: KVM note
    by "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] cableone.net>
39. Re: Tour loadouts
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
40. Re: KVM note
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
41. Re: modern instructions
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
42. Re: modern instructions
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
43. Re: Tour loadouts
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
44. Re: Scenery and Flame Retardant
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
45. SOCAL Usitt
    by "Joe Golden" <joe [at] stage-tech.com>
46. Virtual Scenic Studio
    by Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
47. Dirty Scrim
    by "Maurice Moe Conn" <t8rtekguy [at] hotmail.com>
48. Re: labeling S4's
    by <dale [at] cybercom.net>
49. Re: Tour loadouts
    by <dale [at] cybercom.net>
50. Re: labeling S4's
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
51. Re: Dirty Scrim
    by "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
52. Re: Dirty Scrim
    by <dale [at] cybercom.net>
53. Re: Dirty Scrim
    by "Maurice Moe Conn" <t8rtekguy [at] hotmail.com>
54. Re: labeling S4's
    by <dale [at] cybercom.net>
55. Re: Dirty Scrim
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
56. Re: Lightweight Headset URL
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
57. vacuumform fire hydrant
    by "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>
58. Re: Tour loadouts
    by "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
59. Re: vacuumform fire hydrant
    by "Meixner, Rebekkah J" <rmeixner [at] ius.edu>
60. 4k HMI PANIs
    by "Laura McMeley" <LMcMeley [at] msn.com>
61. Re: It's happened again....
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
62. Re: Scenery and Flame Retardant
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
63. Re: It's happened again....
    by MissWisc [at] aol.com
64. Re: It's happened again....
    by Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
65. Re: labeling S4's
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
66. Re: Dirty Scrim
    by "Curtis L. Mortimore" <clmortimore [at] bsu.edu>
67. Re: Tour loadouts
    by "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] cableone.net>
68. Re: Dirty Scrim
    by "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] cableone.net>
69. Re: Dirty Scrim
    by "Maurice Moe Conn" <t8rtekguy [at] hotmail.com>
70. Re: Dirty Scrim
    by "Shelley Seifert" <shellybellycc13 [at] hotmail.com>
71. Re: 4k HMI PANIs
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
72. Re: Lightweight Headset URL
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
73. Re: Lightweight Headset URL
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
74. Re: Lightweight Headset URL
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>

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Message-ID: <3FBB59451418D511B53E00B0D0AADEBDDC9C46 [at] pa-es1.arts.ucla.edu>
From: "Muller, David" <dmuller [at] arts.ucla.edu>
Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #660
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:00:18 -0800

I will be out of the office from Jan 20th through the 31st. For Equipment
rentals  please try Steve Keeley at 310.825.9721 for bldg issues try Stacia
at 53827.  For technical issues please try Jessica at 69944 or Ron  at
50532. I will try to check email if possible.    otherwise I will contact
you when I return Tuesday Feb 1st. 

Should you need to reach me My cell phone is 310.877.7944.

Thanks

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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:56:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Barrymore's closing
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BFF64846.A5F7%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-26823693 [at] prxy.net>

John you are not helping my LIVER!!

Scott Sloan and I did indeed make it to Mchales' final curtain call.

At 8:30 the taps were dry. They only had Molson, Molson Light, and Guiness
in a bottle. 30 minutes later there was no Guinness. We did have some damn
fine burgers for the last time.

I walked by the next day and indeed they were taking the bar out the door.

There were some old sinks on the sidewalk and I considered grabbing one for
uncle Bill. 

I'm praying someone saves the neon! I'll assume someone from Local 1 will
rescue it and give it a good home. It will probably play out like this:

Random LD in a Broadway house: "Ok folks that was a great focus, House going
black so we can start cueing.......um.......what's that orange and green
glow from the SL fly loft??"

Head Elec: "Oh that's the Mchales sign"

LD: "Um right lets turn that off"

Elec: "That's the Mchales sign"

LD: "um yeah...and?"

Elec: "yeah it doesn't go off"

LD: (after a few minutes of debating forcing the crew to turn off the
sign)..."um ok I guess the new pallette has orange and green from SL"

-H

On 1/19/06 5:30 PM, "John McKernon" <stagecraft2006 [at] mckernon.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> I just heard that January 29th is Barrymore's last day before they close
> permanently (same story as McHale's). I don't know when demolition is
> actually beginning. I expect the other restaurants & delis on that block
> will be closing around the same time.
> 
> - John
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:16:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #660
In-reply-to: <list-26839669 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <1522.172.151.195.254.1137762971.squirrel [at] 172.151.195.254>
References: <list-26839669 [at] prxy.net>

> ---------------------------------------------------
> I will be out of the office from Jan 20th through the 31st. For Equipment
> rentals  please try Steve Keeley at 310.825.9721 for bldg issues try
> Stacia
> at 53827.  For technical issues please try Jessica at 69944 or Ron  at
> 50532. I will try to check email if possible.    otherwise I will contact
> you when I return Tuesday Feb 1st.


I guess this is a technical issue.  Should we call Jessica or Rob?

Steve L.


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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Cc: dale [at] cybercom.net
Subject: Lightweight headsets URL
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:03:35 -0500
Message-ID: <000001c61dca$4e40d9b0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-26717444 [at] prxy.net>


I've misplaced the URL for the site explaining how to convert a cell phone
headset; would someone please email it to me offlist?


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Message-ID: <90d9c9980601200606y48f10826j6b0a107d5580a302 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:06:46 -0500
From: Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #660
In-Reply-To: <list-26841777 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26839669 [at] prxy.net> <list-26841777 [at] prxy.net>

I think we should call Stacia and ask her to rearrange his office.

On 1/20/06, Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu> wrote:
 for bldg issues try Stacia at 53827.
>
> I guess this is a technical issue.  Should we call Jessica or Rob?
>
> Steve L.
>
>


--
Take care, Scott

=09Scott C. Parker
=09Professor/Technical Director
=09Dept. of Performing Arts
=09Dyson College of Arts and Sciences  [at]  Pace University
=09Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F
=09Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza
=09New York, NY 10038
=09212-346-1423  Fax: 914-989-8425

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Message-ID: <90d9c9980601200609vea654c2s66867ee95cb48cb [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:09:03 -0500
From: Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Barrymore's closing
In-Reply-To: <list-26823693 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26823693 [at] prxy.net>

Anyone up for a last round?

On 1/19/06, John McKernon <stagecraft2006 [at] mckernon.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I just heard that January 29th is Barrymore's last day

--
Take care, Scott

=09Scott C. Parker
=09Professor/Technical Director
=09Dept. of Performing Arts
=09Dyson College of Arts and Sciences  [at]  Pace University
=09Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F
=09Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza
=09New York, NY 10038
=09212-346-1423  Fax: 914-989-8425

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Message-ID: <20060120143348.18051.qmail [at] web52205.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 06:33:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Marsland <paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Cirque Tracks
In-Reply-To: <list-26839655 [at] prxy.net>

> below the track.  As far as the attachment method,
> it's just a pair of
> swaged eyes that attach to a bracket on the dolly
> with a pair of
> bolts.
> ....
> -Jared Fortney
> Rigger
> CdS, Corteo
> 

Hey Jared,

So the dolly has a cable eye attached to it, yeah; how
does the cable eye attach to the drive cable and pass
through (or over) the idler pullies?

Paul

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Message-ID: <002c01c61dce$ccc61580$87d11ed8 [at] Hackman1>
From: "Tom Hackman" <hackman [at] davisandelkins.edu>
References: <list-26839655 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: A great Little Prodcut
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:35:40 -0500

I am glad to hear all the praise for the Johnson Systems package. We are 
having it installed in our CD80 rack next week. We had planned on using the 
Strand version, but they are not making it anymore. I am just excited to be 
done with AMX 192.

>
> Johnson Systems, Inc. retro fitted our old ElectroControls dimmer system
> at the high school. Upgraded from the old Electrocontrols language,
> cmux?, to DMX. They sent us the parts and our Director of Physical
> Plant, who is an electrical engineer, installed it. It's working
> flawlessly.
>
> Les Lind
> NHS Dramatics
> Northeastern High School
> Manchester, PA
>

Tom Hackman
Technical Director
Davis & Elkins College
Elkins, WV 


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Message-ID: <20060120143722.73937.qmail [at] web52204.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 06:37:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Marsland <paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Ropelights
In-Reply-To: <list-26839655 [at] prxy.net>

> Ehm, *ALL* of the consumer ropelights that I've had
> the pleasure of messing
> about with have had two rails and ten 12V lamps
> strung between them or
> twelve 10V lamps,
> 
>
________________________________________________________________
>  (
>   (
>    [at] --- [at] --- [at] --- [at] --- [at] --- [at] --- [at] --- [at] --- [at]          
>  [at] --- [at] --- [at] --- [at] 
>
___________________________________________)______________________
> with a clearly marked 'Cut Here' to demarkate the
> end of one of the series

I have found that the raw end (right after you cut the
rope to fit) stripped back 3/4" or so allows the two
"power rails" to fit quite nicely into a U-ground
(Edison) plug, and the strain relief tends to like
clamping on the rope as well.

Paul

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Message-ID: <90d9c9980601200657k5872baa9v8471605bc882066b [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:57:58 -0500
From: Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com
Subject: Re: Lightweight headsets URL
In-Reply-To: <list-26842498 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26717444 [at] prxy.net> <list-26842498 [at] prxy.net>

I'd like to see that as well. Would you please send it to the list?
Thanks, Scott

On 1/20/06, Jeffrey E. Salzberg <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> I've misplaced the URL for the site explaining how to convert a cell phon=
e
> headset; would someone please email it to me offlist?
>
>


--
Take care, Scott

=09Scott C. Parker
=09Professor/Technical Director
=09Dept. of Performing Arts
=09Dyson College of Arts and Sciences  [at]  Pace University
=09Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F
=09Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza
=09New York, NY 10038
=09212-346-1423  Fax: 914-989-8425

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Message-ID: <b3333cd60601200708m1070ed4fk476d7a487d2e3ab3 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:08:08 -0600
From: Patrick Immel <salukitd [at] gmail.com>
Subject: labeling S4's

I am wondering how everyone labels their different Source 4 lens
tubes.  Tape?  Paint?  I would rather not use tape as it (I would
think) would start to get "gucky" after heating up and cooling down
many times!

Thanks,
Pat

--
Patrick Immel
Lighting and Scenic Designer
Northwest Missouri State University
patrickimmel.com

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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Lightweight headsets URL
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:08:11 -0500
Message-ID: <000301c61dd3$54b39cc0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-26843532 [at] prxy.net>

 
> I'd like to see that as well. Would you please send it to the 
> list? Thanks, Scott

OK, but if anyone sends it to the list, be sure to indicate whether you're
willing to pay Chris travel and per diem....


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Message-ID: <8231e7ea0601200720o7332436dl791ce63b760b2fc9 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:20:15 -0500
From: SS <cueonego [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lightweight Headset URL

>>>>I've misplaced the URL for the site explaining how to convert a cell ph=
one
headset; would someone please email it to me offlist?<<<<

>>>>I'd like to see that as well. Would you please send it to the list?<<<<

Either of these the one?
http://www.matgoebel.com/headset/headset.htm
http://www.matgoebel.com/headset/headset2.htm

If so, HTH. If not, my bad.

>>>>OK, but if anyone sends it to the list, be sure to indicate whether you=
're
willing to pay Chris travel and per diem....<<<<

And no, there will be no per diem or travel reimbursement. Time to
purchase a nice set of walking sneaks, and brown bag it.  Sorry CB :)

--
SS
TTS-EKU

"Oh, and next Friday... is Hawaiian shirt day... so, you know, if you
want to you can go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans. "
 --Bill Lumbergh

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Subject: RE: labeling S4's
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:24:09 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9AB8 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> I am wondering how everyone labels their different Source 4=20
> lens tubes.  Tape?  Paint?  I would rather not use tape as it (I would
> think) would start to get "gucky" after heating up and=20
> cooling down many times!

I've got 1/2" spike tape on mine, cut nice and neat with a utility knife
to length, applied on all three sides of the gel frame holder.  Out that
far, there's no real heat issue to speak of too much, so I didn't worry
too much about that.  I'm more concerned about the durability of the
tape over repeated handling, but went with tape anyway for ease of
replacement.

In that position, if you're anywhere other than directly on-axis, you
can see the identification color...and since I'm at a woman's college,
color-blindness is basically a non-issue.

And, FWIW, the color scheme is red-19, yellow-26, green-36, and blue-50.
My cables also are color coded with the shortest ones getting red up to
blue at my 30-footers, so the consistency is nice.

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References: <list-26843734 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <39F5203D-9319-4A0B-9825-C7C58F938730 [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: labeling S4's
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:26:50 -0500

> I am wondering how everyone labels their different Source 4 lens
> tubes.

I just use white paint pen and label where the OEM sticker was.  I  
have seen various paint methods around the accessory (gel frame) slot  
in red, blue, green.  All were dark shades as to not stand out too  
much from the audience but visible from the deck under worklights.  I  
just haven't gotten far enough down my to do list to get to that kind  
of lableling.


Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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Subject: RE: A great Little Prodcut
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:31:05 -0500
Message-ID: <E321F8A26790B044A1ED6D4A493E4F4602E6A4 [at] dionysus.vlsoffice.com>
From: "Paul Sanow" <psanow [at] vls.com>

> I am glad to hear all the praise for the Johnson Systems=20
> package. We are having it installed in our CD80 rack next=20
> week. We had planned on using the Strand version, but they=20
> are not making it anymore. I am just excited to be done with AMX 192.
>=20
snip
>=20
> Tom Hackman
> Technical Director
> Davis & Elkins College
> Elkins, WV=20

Tom,

I'm glad to hear you are getting the Johnson System upgrade.  In all the
installations we've done with it we have been happy.  Strand is actually
right now starting to bring the new upgrade for CD80 and CD80 Advanced
Electronics (using the new C21 processor) online for shipping.  It
sounds like the timing might not have worked out for your installation.
The previous version of the upgrade was indeed unavailable for a few
months.  You'll be happy with the Johnson upgrade though.  We choose the
upgrade based on what makes sense on a job by job basis.

I remember your CD80 rack well since I turned it on back in about 1992
or 1993 IIRC.

Paul

***********************************************************
Paul Sanow 			psanow [at] vls.com
Technical Sales			www.vincentlighting.com
Vincent Lighting Systems


1420 Jamike Ln. #2
Erlanger, KY 41018

(859) 525-2000	x211		FAX (859) 525-2050
***********************************************************

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Message-ID: <000b01c61dd7$0b305990$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-26844130 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: labeling S4's
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:34:46 -0800

> and since I'm at a woman's college,
> color-blindness is basically a non-issue.
>


Wow... that's terrific.  Due to association or proximity, you have no color 
blindness!

:)

     - Jon Ares
www.hevanet.com/acreative 


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Message-ID: <20060120153948.24232.qmail [at] web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:39:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: labeling S4's
In-Reply-To: <list-26844226 [at] prxy.net>

--- Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com> wrote:
> 
> > I am wondering how everyone labels their different
> Source 4 lens
> > tubes.
> 
> I just use white paint pen and label where the OEM
> sticker was.

I've done the same but take it one step futher. I
rotate the tube and label it on multiple sides. That
way you don't have to spin the instrument to read the
numbering. Of course when I've been responsible for
lighting, it's been in venues with low enough trims
that you could actually read the numbers.

Mike Heinicke

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In-Reply-To: <list-26844130 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26844130 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <7BCEB813-1C08-491C-BC50-24CD86756A6C [at] gmail.com>
From: Andrew Vance <atvanceld [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: labeling S4's
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:48:22 -0600

On 20 Jan, 2006, at 09:24 , Paul Schreiner wrote:
> I've got 1/2" spike tape on mine, cut nice and neat with a utility  
> knife
> to length, applied on all three sides of the gel frame holder.

We use paint pen to accomplish the same thing, except only mark the  
bottom of the gel frame.  Like Patrick, I was worried about paint  
becoming "gucky" and whatnot, or losing adhesion.  I borrow our color  
scheme from another theatre in town whom loans me equipment quite  
regularly so my crew wouldn't have to learn and remember two systems  
of coding.  In an effort to easily differentiate my equipment from  
theirs, we also mark under the gel clip with the appropriate color.   
I was going to steal Fourth Phase's color system because I dealt with  
it for so long, but this seemed to make more sense for the theatre.

We use yellow-19, blue-26, red-36, and white-50.

--
Sincerely,

Andrew Vance
Lighting Designer
atvanceld [at] gmail.com




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From: "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
Subject: RE: labeling S4's
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:48:39 +0400
In-Reply-To: <list-26844395 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20060120154848.AE14D5B23 [at] mail05.powweb.com>

But lots complaints about ex colour being so 90's etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jon Ares
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:35 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: labeling S4's

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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> and since I'm at a woman's college,
> color-blindness is basically a non-issue.
>


Wow... that's terrific.  Due to association or proximity, you have no color
blindness!

:)

     - Jon Ares
www.hevanet.com/acreative 




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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:58:01 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: labeling S4's
In-reply-to: <list-26844791 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <43D10889.90409 [at] ithaca.edu>
Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts
References: <list-26844130 [at] prxy.net> <list-26844791 [at] prxy.net>

Andrew Vance wrote:
> ---------------------------------------------------
> We use yellow-19, blue-26, red-36, and white-50.

Amazingly, that's my color scheme which I "borrowed" from a 
neighboring theatre when I was in Richmond.

In Richmond, I spray painted the gel frame holders and that stood up 
to a ton of abuse.  I tried being more subtle here in Ithaca and just 
put a stripe of paint on the gel holders and have had them all wear off.

The folks at Syracuse Stage use e-tape, I believe.  Looks pretty good, 
but I'm not sure how durable it is.  Nancy, you still reading the list?

Steve L.


-- 
Stephen C. Litterst
Technical Supervisor
Ithaca College
Dept. of Theatre Arts
607/274-3947
slitterst [at] ithaca.edu

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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: It's happened again....
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:38:21 -0500
Message-ID: <000c01c61ddf$ed42ac40$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-26844046 [at] prxy.net>

A few weeks ago, I heard about another NYC lighting designer (not the =
same
as the last one we discussed, who, you remember, did it twice) who =
walked on
a show at the last minute.

While I'm always glad to get work (especially puppets.  I *love* =
lighting
puppets), it annoys me that these folks' irresponsibility reflects badly =
on
the rest of us.

Are college programs not teaching professional ethics?


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Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060120075357.01fc7b70 [at] interstellar.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:58:43 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: free VGA switch

Yesterday my VGA/USB switch had the USB part die, so I got a new 
one.  If anyone needs a video only switch (two computers, one 
monitor), they can have this one for the cost of shipping.  Contact 
me offline, first come, first serve.

-- 
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:41:57 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: It's happened again....
In-reply-to: <list-26845765 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <43D112D5.9040502 [at] ithaca.edu>
Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts
References: <list-26845765 [at] prxy.net>

Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote:
> ---------------------------------------------------
  > While I'm always glad to get work (especially puppets.  I *love* 
lighting
> puppets), it annoys me that these folks' irresponsibility reflects badly on
> the rest of us.
> 
> Are college programs not teaching professional ethics?

We can teach it until we're hoarse, but if they don't come in with a 
solid basis in morals and ethics from their parents, there isn't much 
we can do.



Steve L.
-- 
Stephen C. Litterst
Technical Supervisor
Ithaca College
Dept. of Theatre Arts
607/274-3947
slitterst [at] ithaca.edu

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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: It's happened again....
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:46:22 -0500
Message-ID: <000e01c61de1$0be98be0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-26845866 [at] prxy.net>


 
> > Are college programs not teaching professional ethics?
> 
> We can teach it until we're hoarse, but if they don't come in with a 
> solid basis in morals and ethics from their parents, there isn't much 
> we can do.

That's a well-taken point.

In the interest of full disclosure, I should point out that the designer in
the first case -- the one who walked last spring -- Is a former student of
mine, I'm ashamed to say.  I wish we'd spent more time discussing
professional responsibility but, as you say, certain values need to have
been instilled in them long before they get to college.


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Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060120084710.01fa5e30 [at] interstellar.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:47:25 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: free VGA switch
In-Reply-To: <list-26845807 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26845807 [at] prxy.net>

The switch has been claimed.

-- 
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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From: "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" <roadhat [at] earthlink.net>
Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com
Subject: RE: It's happened again....
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:50:19 -0500
Message-ID: <002701c61de1$9c289430$0300a8c0 [at] Roadbox>
In-Reply-To: <list-26845765 [at] prxy.net>

To phrase Jeff's question slightly differently: 

Are college programs instilling unrealistic expectations of how the
production process "should" work which might contribute to their graduates
reacting badly to real-world situations?

- J.Minh





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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:50:48 -0500
From: iaeg [at] aol.com
Message-Id: <8C7EBF8CCC3B30F-14C8-F3D [at] mblk-d18.sysops.aol.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-26846016 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: It's happened again....
Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com

perhaps not give them diplomas ?

very best,

Keith Arsenault
International Arts & Entertainment Group



> > Are college programs not teaching professional ethics?
>
> We can teach it until we're hoarse, but if they don't come in with a
> solid basis in morals and ethics from their parents, there isn't much
> we can do.




    

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Message-ID: <001901c61de2$23a5f150$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-26846194 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: It's happened again....
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:54:12 -0800

> perhaps not give them diplomas ?
>
>> > Are college programs not teaching professional ethics?
>>
>> We can teach it until we're hoarse, but if they don't come in with a
>> solid basis in morals and ethics from their parents, there isn't much
>> we can do.
>

Graduation Night:

"I'm sorry, I know you've completed all your coursework, but we're not 
giving you a diploma, because you have bad parents."

     - Jon Ares
www.hevanet.com/acreative 


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Subject: RE: It's happened again....
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:59:18 -0500
Message-ID: <CA2E466B6CEC9B449481950C30F907E757AF2F [at] mvcc-newexch.mvcc.edu>
From: "Michael Diederich" <mdiederich [at] mvcc.edu>
Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com

>>>> it annoys me that these folks' irresponsibility reflects badly on
the rest of us.

Are college programs not teaching professional ethics?<<<<

The commitment level has dropped, in my humble opinion. Kids are being
placed in so many different activities they are spreading everything too
thin. They either start quitting activities or start failing classes.
This is carrying over into their professional lives. I have had full
time students quit shows because they also work full time jobs. They
audition with schedules that allow them to be here two days a week and
expect that to be enough. They drop what is hardest for them, or what
they like the least. Parents let them quit when they were kids...why
should they do things different now?

And, my professors helped carry the ethics and responsibility theme
through for me. I wanted to withdraw from a lost semester that I screwed
up and start over fresh later. They convinced me to stick it out and try
harder rather than give up. While I didn't do all that well, I did save
at couple of courses. So, these lessons are being addressed.=20


Mike Diederich
Theater Technical Asst.
Utica, NY

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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <26f.46b871a.310271f6 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:03:50 EST
Subject: Re: It's happened again....


In a message dated 1/20/06 11:54:45 AM, jonares [at] hevanet.com writes:

<< Graduation Night:


"I'm sorry, I know you've completed all your coursework, but we're not 

giving you a diploma, because you have bad parents." >>


I have no problem with that, , , none what so ever, , ,   we graduate too 
many as it is.....

very best,

Keith Arsenault

IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group 
Tampa, Florida

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Message-ID: <001f01c61de4$313650b0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-26846752 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: It's happened again....
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:08:54 -0800

> The commitment level has dropped, in my humble opinion. Kids are being
> placed in so many different activities they are spreading everything too
> thin. They either start quitting activities or start failing classes.
> This is carrying over into their professional lives. I have had full
> time students quit shows because they also work full time jobs. They
> audition with schedules that allow them to be here two days a week and
> expect that to be enough.

Couldn't agree more with what you've written.  We have students that have 
the best of intentions, and just hope that WE can make it work for THEM. 
Just in the last 2 days it has come to light that there's a severe conflict 
with the school's Mock Trial class and competition and some cast members of 
a show - their biggest competition is during the day of opening night, and 
the MT coach and attorneys want all members for rigorous practices during 
our tech/dress week (their own tech/dress rehearsals - it's 
understandable)....  these students didn't tell us about it, and were "kinda 
hoping we'd make it work."

     - Jon Ares
www.hevanet.com/acreative 


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Message-ID: <43D11A43.2010401 [at] fredonia.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:13:39 -0500
From: "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Reply-To:  Rees [at] fredonia.edu
Subject: Re: It's happened again....
References: <list-26845765 [at] prxy.net>

Hmmmmm.  One can try but with all the really fine examples of ethical 
behavior demonstrated by far too many folks in the public eye, is it any 
wonder that there is some decay rubbing off on the young?

"Bust a deal,face the wheel."  -Aunty Entity, Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome

Steve Rees, TD
SUNY-Fredonia



Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote:
[snipped]
> Are college programs not teaching professional ethics?



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Message-ID: <77fad3270601200917q64587aep67564e7b2ba499ee [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:17:46 -0500
From: Nathan Kahn <nathan.kahn [at] gmail.com>
Subject: used phone ringer and dimmers 4 sale

Why build your own when you can buy the one my buddy sweated over for
two weeks?!?!?!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Theatrical-Telephone-Ringer-Theatre-Stage-Phone_W0QQite=
mZ5856856490QQcategoryZ1503QQcmdZViewItem

Also, 2 Altman motorized color wheels for 6" instruments.  15 yrs.
old, but totally new/unused:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Motorized-Color-Wheels-19_W0QQitemZ7383864968QQcatego=
ryZ29943QQcmdZViewItem

Also Sunn PSR 1208 8x1.2kw dimmer pack.  15 yrs. old, but totally new/unuse=
d:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Sunn-PSR-1208-Progammable-Dimmer-Pack-New_W0QQit=
emZ7383865051QQcategoryZ29942QQcmdZViewItem

Also, Spectrum Design DZN-2C controller and OX-12 6x1.2kw dimmer pack.
 20 yrs. old and totally used:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Spectrum-Design-DZN-2C-OX-12-Lighting-Module-Dimmer_W0Q=
QitemZ7383865203QQcategoryZ29942QQcmdZViewItem


Thanks for excusing this 2nd commercial intrusion within 3 days.  I
shan't be posting any more.

Nathan Kahn (whose wife made him clean out the garage for New Years)

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Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060120094815.01fc2688 [at] interstellar.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:57:22 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: KVM note

For anyone thinking of getting a Keyboard/Video/Mouse switch:

My new KVM (to replace the one that died) is one of the "smart" ones 
that doesn't just switch the keyboard/rodent from one computer to the 
other.  It pretends that a keyboard and mouse are connected to both 
computers at all times to prevent problems and also translates a PC 
keyboard to a Mac or Sun.

Sounds great, now the fine print...

I have a PC/Mac auto-switch keyboard (since I have both Mac and PC 
systems) which worked fine with the old KVM.  But, the new one 
doesn't know what to do with it.  Tech support for the KVM says I 
have to have a plain PC keyboard, no extra buttons or features.  The 
keyboard Tech Support says their keyboards don't work with KVM 
switches.  Plain, no bells and whistles keyboards are getting hard to find!

Otherwise, the new KVM switch seems REALLY nice.  Switches faster 
than the old one, no external power needed, no drivers, works with 
PC/Mac/Sun in any combo.

KVM:  IOGear GCS632U ($59)
Keyboard (that doesn't work):  Logitech "Internet Navigator" (came 
free with one of the Macs).

-- 
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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From: "Jared Fortney" <jared.fortney [at] gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Cirque Tracks
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:09:40 -0800
In-Reply-To: <list-26843040 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <43d12767.7be96332.77ea.0e97 [at] mx.gmail.com>

The cable eye is on the drive cable.  The drive cable attaches to the dolly
bracket then runs over the top of the lower idler pulleys to the drive
pulley.  The cable winds from bottom to top around the drive pulley then
runs back across the arch on top of the upper set of idler pulleys where it
runs around a non-drive/return pulley and back to the dolly over the lower
idler pulleys.  The drive cable is swaged at both ends and both ends attach
to the same bracket on the dolly.  This bracket is a bit like an upside down
L with the cable attached to the horizontal leg of the L.  This horizontal
protrusion fits between the upper and lower idler pulleys, so as the dolly
passes the cable just slightly lifts out of the lower idler pulley and then
lays back down after the dolly passes.

Hope that clarifies it Paul

-Jared Fortney
Rigger
CdS, Corteo 


-----Original Message-----
So the dolly has a cable eye attached to it, yeah; how
does the cable eye attach to the drive cable and pass
through (or over) the idler pullies?


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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <29e.4028015.31028628 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:30:00 EST
Subject: Re: It's happened again....

In a message dated 20/01/06 16:51:02 GMT Standard Time, roadhat [at] earthlink.net 
writes:

> Are college programs instilling unrealistic expectations of how the
>  production process "should" work which might contribute to their graduates
>  reacting badly to real-world situations?

Maybe. The real world is full of bad planners, who exasperate us all from 
time to time. When two come together on a show, it can be very bad news. I 
remember a show where the director took a hour and a half out of the tech-with-cast 
to rehearse the fights/stabbings, leaving the crew, and most of the cast, 
sitting round twiddling their thumbs. The SM allowed this.

As a fight arranger myself, I know that these things need meticulous 
rehearsal. But the middle of a major tech is not the time to do it. The bar wasn't 
even open! I came close to walking myself, but didn't. As it turned out, I didn't 
have to. The director and I did not have a meeting of minds, once the 
lighting had been rigged and focussed. She assembled such management as the lighting 
department has, held a court-martial, and fired me. A new designer took over, 
with three rehearsals to go before the opening. I left him all my information, 
and was glad. I didn't go to see it.

The time to walk is at the pre-production conference. if you must. If you and 
the director are not facing the same way, that is the time to go. I know that 
there are production concepts within which I cannot do good work, and I try 
to steer clear of them, rather than do bad work, or even just-so work. Any LD 
can do the latter; I try to be better than that.


Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <005e01c61def$c926a4a0$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200>
From: "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] cableone.net>
References: <list-26848297 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: KVM note
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:31:52 -0700

My experience with KVM

I have a dual screen  machine and a single screen machine,  a wireless
mouse and an old style keyboard feeding each one.
A KVM doesn't work. (Read several $100 later)

As a result:
I have the "secondary" machine as a shortcut on my "primary" machine.
99.7% of all typing and mousework is done for both machines on the
primary.   To think about it, the only time I grab the other
mouse/keyboard is for typing in something on that ones internet browser
on the rare occasion it is open.

Just a note:
I often visit St Vincent, Goodwill, and Salvation Army ...and see
keyboards sitting on their shelves that are of the "old" style.
I prefer the old style with the large ENTER key because of my clumsy
typing skills.  (Part of  a old post of "skills I wish I would have
learned in High School.")

Robert Riddle
Will Disagree for the Sake of Discussion
Will Discuss for the Sake of Learning



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Durand" <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>

>
> For anyone thinking of getting a Keyboard/Video/Mouse switch:
>
> My new KVM (to replace the one that died) is one of the "smart" ones
> that doesn't just switch the keyboard/rodent from one computer to the
> other.  It pretends that a keyboard and mouse are connected to both
> computers at all times to prevent problems and also translates a PC
> keyboard to a Mac or Sun.
>
> Sounds great, now the fine print...
>
> I have a PC/Mac auto-switch keyboard (since I have both Mac and PC
> systems) which worked fine with the old KVM.  But, the new one
> doesn't know what to do with it.  Tech support for the KVM says I
> have to have a plain PC keyboard, no extra buttons or features.  The
> keyboard Tech Support says their keyboards don't work with KVM
> switches.  Plain, no bells and whistles keyboards are getting hard to
find!
>
> Otherwise, the new KVM switch seems REALLY nice.  Switches faster
> than the old one, no external power needed, no drivers, works with
> PC/Mac/Sun in any combo.
>
> KVM:  IOGear GCS632U ($59)
> Keyboard (that doesn't work):  Logitech "Internet Navigator" (came
> free with one of the Macs).

>


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060120115153.00d13a18 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:51:53
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Tour loadouts

>Like I said. "My way, or you can do it my when I am pissed off."

I loved this since the first time I heard Mark-o use it.  And then I stole
it!  And, yes, hehas been the unnamed source of this quote as I've used in
in this form for years.  Welcome out, Mark!

				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060120104721.01feab60 [at] interstellar.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:52:18 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: KVM note
In-Reply-To: <list-26849036 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26848297 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-26849036 [at] prxy.net>

At 10:31 AM 1/20/2006, you wrote:
>I have a dual screen  machine and a single screen machine,  a wireless
>mouse and an old style keyboard feeding each one.
>A KVM doesn't work. (Read several $100 later)

Yep, seems like these only work for "plain" systems.  I'm used to a 
rack of computers with a track ball pasted to the side, a keyboard on 
a tiny shelf, and a monitor stuck someplace.  The KVM for these is 
rackmount, $$$$, and works fine.  But, the only thing it's used for 
it monitoring systems and doing maintenance.

I also prefer the old keyboards that don't have that batch of keys 
between the normal keys and the number keypad (original AT form).  I 
use function keys a lot, they're better down the left hand side 
(can't find that anywhere anymore).  I never install keyboard/mouse 
drivers, never use all the other "funny" buttons on the keyboard (at 
one client there were extra buttons all over the keyboard, the shift 
keys were tiny to make room and the button I always hit when trying 
to shift was hard-coded for www.oxygen.com).


-- 
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060120115344.00d13a18 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:53:44
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: modern instructions

>The good thing is that the U of A cops  
>like to park in my service pass spot and nail the bikies running the  
>four way stop.  I think it is about a 75 USD hit!

Ehm, hey Mark-o, let me know where that is, woulja?  Bryan and I are going
our for a ride in a coupla hours...
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060120115609.00d13a18 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:56:09
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: modern instructions

>Hey now.  I walk to work every morning and I rather enjoy my iPod. 

You've earned the right.  First you learn the rules, then you get to be
creative with tehm.  First you learn to walk, then you learn to walk in
traffic, then you learn to walk in traffic with your hearing impaired.  Ya
gotta pass the 101 class (like you did) before you get to take the post
graduate IPod classes!
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060120120249.00d13a18 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:02:49
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Tour loadouts

>Much of what I do is corporate gigs, and the trucks usually 
>arrive loaded semi-randomly from the warehouse, and since they are 
>going right back to a warehouse.  So it doesn't really matter how 
>they are loaded, 

Tell me where, I do a lot of corporate gigs, and I'm very particular about
some of my loads.  As in, some times I know what won't work because that's
how I tried it the first time getting it in to the truck.  
If I suddenly become quiet and still after suggesting that it be done my
way a few times, just wait and watch.  I'm just waiting till I'm sure that
you know that I was right and your ready to stop arguing with me, unload
the b*sta*rd without blaming me for the time you have to spend doing it,
and start listening to me.  And, it has the advantage of waiting to see if
you actually pull it off so as not to have to pull the foot out of my mouth
in front of the local guys!  
I'm always ready to learn a new and different way of doing things, but late
night load-outs aren't my favorite time.  I want a sure-fire, seen it done
that way twice already, this'll get you to the bar for one before bed
method.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060120120346.00d13a18 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:03:46
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Scenery and Flame Retardant

>I think Chris may agree. Stupidity is a contra-survival mutation.

I may indeed.  (See, I told you I have no problem agreeing with Frank when
he's dead-on!)
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

From: "Joe Golden" <joe [at] stage-tech.com>
Subject: SOCAL Usitt
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:06:39 -0800
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJadfYT2PiJPlLLWR2I3sF/CgAAAEAAAAOd2EybNwZhEpDPEOkNiqG8BAAAAAA== [at] stage-tech.com>

Posting for a friend.  For more details or a PDF map please e-mail
chair [at] socalusitt.org
=20
Southern California Section USITT
Invites you to get Active!
=20
Engineering Master Class
(Tour of new facilities at Cal State Fullerton)
=20
Who: Shawn Nolan of Entertainment Structures Group
=20
Shawn Nolan has worked in regional theatre, trade shows and TV scenery =
for
more
Than 20 years. He completed his BS in Civil Engineering at the =
University of
Cincinnati in 1997 and has been working as a structural engineer since =
then.
He heads up
Entertainment Structures Group (a division of Steven Schaefer =
Associates,
Inc.), a
Specialty engineering firm providing consulting services to the trade. =
His
areas of
Expertise=92s include stage machinery, structural design of steel and =
wood
structures and
Forensic evaluation of existing structures.
=20
=20
Host: Bill Meyer Professor of Theatre & Technical Director Cal State
Fullerton
=20
When: Saturday February 11 2006
=20
Where: Cal State Fullerton
              Performing Arts Center
              Room PA116
=20
Time:  Arrive 9am Scene Shop for Coffee and Donuts
            start 9:30am PA 116 for the class
            Lunch 12noon
            Tour 1pm
            Finish master class 5pm
=20
R.S.V.P.: Sue Brandt 213-740-1247 chair [at] socalusitt.org

=20
Limited attendance: 20 attendees

=20
Costs:
$50.00
Half of the fee is going to Long Reach Long Riders as a fund raiser
Parking at Cal State Fullerton is free on Saturdays if you park in the
Nutwood  Parking  Structure
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
Driving Directions:
From Los Angeles:
Take ramp onto I-10 EAST toward SAN BERNARDINO - go 2.8 mi6.
Take the ROSEMEAD BLVD exit toward LONG BEACH - go 2.4 mi7.
Take ramp onto CA-60 EAST toward POMONA - go 13.8 mi8.
Take the CA-57 SOUTH exit toward SANTA ANA - go 9.4 mi9.
Take exit #7/NUTWOOD AVE toward FULLERTON/CHAPMAN AVE - go 0.2 mi10.
Turn Right on NUTWOOD AVE - go 0.5 mi11.
Turn Right on N STATE COLLEGE BLVD =96
Turn Right on Arts Drive=20
Turn Right into Nutwood  Parking Structure. (NPS)
Park and walk; follow signs to Performing Arts Building.
=20
=20
Driving Directions:
From Orange County:
 I-5 NORTH toward LOS ANGELES - go 4.2 mi6.
Take the CA-57 NORTH exit toward POMONA - go 6.7 mi7.
Take exit #7/NUTWOOD AVE - go 0.3 mi8.
Turn Left on NUTWOOD AVE - go 0.6 mi9.
Turn Right on N STATE COLLEGE BLVD =96=20
Turn Right on Arts Drive=20
Turn Right into Nutwood  Parking Structure. (NPS)
Park and walk; follow signs to Performing Arts Building.
=20
Web address of Cal State Fullerton Maps
I advise you use the construction map
http://www.fullerton.edu/campusmap/
=20

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Message-ID: <b7318c480601201118k76b5a810w1edca99eb7943bd4 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:18:11 -0500
From: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Virtual Scenic Studio

I am received many very good suggestions on way to improve VSS.  A
couple of things that I probably should have told you before you
looked at it are:

1) When you hit the "Finish" button the only thing that happens is the
timer stops.  I do not have the skills to get the program to judge how
well you did in constructing the flat.  My thought is that the student
would then print the final screen (landscape mode) and give it to the
professor to grade.

2) The timer was added when I thought that it might be used in a competitio=
n.

3) Several people have suggested that I remind the students of the
size of the flat that they are constructing.

4) A future version WILL include hard covered flats, so be patient.

5) When it is "done" I plan to sell site licenses to schools and
individuals for $15.  No, I will not get rich on that, but I will know
who is using it so that I can include the names on my faculty activity
report.  ("Look who is using something that I developed!" kind of
thing.)

6)  Someone told me that they center the lowest toggle 3' above the
floor instead of putting the top of the toggle at 3'.  That $15 will
include minor customizations of instructions like that. (What a deal).

7) Future version might even include building and legging platforms.=20
Who know where this will lead?

This is just the rought start and I appreciate everyone's input to
help me make this program better.

--
Delbert L. Hall
Phone: 714-585-7070

------------------------------

Message-ID: <BAY12-F1832BC32D7D80660D08165E01F0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Maurice Moe Conn" <t8rtekguy [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Dirty Scrim
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:25:12 +0000

Hello,
I just pulled my scrim out of storage, Folded, Bagged, kept in a nice clean 
environment(While stored)  The Scrim is in Great shape, no mold or issues of 
funk.  However my Theatre and Shop pretty much share the same work space.  
So I now have lots of tiny white flecks of poo-poo on my scrim.  From 
sawdust to fuzz.
Any suggestions on how to get that off?  I have a compressor and blow gun, I 
have a shop vac, I have 15 students with tweezers, I have a dustbuster....I 
have not a clue.
Oh if it matters its Black 22'x40'

Thanks
Moe

Help support Long Reach Long Riders 2006 Charity Ride. For Donation and/or 
Rider information, Check out: www.lrlr.org



------------------------------

Message-ID: <b7b57ffeb1659ae1543f4f4dd03feeeb [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:22:34 -0500
From:  <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Subject: Re: labeling S4's
Reply-to: <dale [at] cybercom.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-26843734 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26843734 [at] prxy.net>

On 10:08:08 am 01/20/06 Patrick Immel <salukitd [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net
> />
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I am wondering how everyone labels their different Source 4 lens
> tubes.  Tape?  Paint?  I would rather not use tape as it (I would
> think) would start to get "gucky" after heating up and cooling down
> many times!
>
>

  What I usually see in rental stocks are someone writing 
the degree number on the flat spots of the gel frame 
holders with paint markers.  This allows you to look at 
one laying on the ground or standing on it's nose and have 
a decent chance of seeing the number.  SOme also color 
code the numbers.  Some folks put colors/numbers on the 
yokes as well.   
  My preference for marking systems are that they should 
not be so obscure.  Thus someone not initiated into the 
system can still make use of them.  Someone who is into 
the system should be able to tell at a glance what it 
is.  

   --Dale


------------------------------

Message-ID: <e16765c48fcda558be3e40849a29f93b [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:02:10 -0500
From:  <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Subject: Re: Tour loadouts
Reply-to: <dale [at] cybercom.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-26849884 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26849884 [at] prxy.net>

On 12:02:49 pm 01/20/06 CB <psyd [at] cox.net> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net
> />
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> > Much of what I do is corporate gigs, and the trucks usually
> > arrive loaded semi-randomly from the warehouse, and since they are
> > going right back to a warehouse.  So it doesn't really matter how
> > they are loaded,
>
> Tell me where, I do a lot of corporate gigs, and I'm very particular
> about some of my loads.  As in, some times I know what won't work
> because that's how I tried it the first time getting it in to the
> truck. If I suddenly become quiet and still after suggesting that it
> be done my way a few times, just wait and watch.  I'm just waiting
> till I'm sure that you know that I was right and your ready to stop
> arguing with me, unload the b*sta*rd without blaming me for the time
> you have to spend doing it, and start listening to me.  And, it has
> the advantage of waiting to see if you actually pull it off so as not
> to have to pull the foot out of my mouth in front of the local guys!
> I'm always ready to learn a new and different way of doing things,
> but late night load-outs aren't my favorite time.  I want a
> sure-fire, seen it done that way twice already, this'll get you to
> the bar for one before bed method.
> 

   The solution is easy.  Use a bigger truck.  Then packing 
efficiently is not as important.   I used the word usuually 
on there, which in reflection is a bit stronger than I really 
meant.   There is also the issue of the convention center 
loading docks are the possesion of the teamsters local, so 
nearly all the loading and unloading there is done by them.  
Also, the companies often end up renting a lot of stuff 
from local rental shops, so it ends up going into multiple 
different trucks with lots of slop space.  
  Were I to appear on the dock and actually use a box for 
anything other than an armrest, I'm running the risk of 
slashed tires, being 'accidentally' run over by a forktruck, 
or something.  Only times I've moved boxes there were after 
the teamsters went home for the night, or when the company 
wouldn't let the teamsters touch the extremely expensive 
prototype without signing a personal liability agreement.  
  I'm also turning into enough of an olde pharte nowadays 
that the young macho studs with testosterone poisoning of 
the brain will offer to take the heavier boxes.  Which I, 
and my sore back, are perfectly willing to let them 
have.  It's kind of funny to see the expressions on 
their faces when they see me move a box that they got 
stuck though.  Proper lifting and leverage are my friends. 
  I do get annoyed at rental companies who build huge 
cable boxes with undersized wheels that weigh several 
hundred pounds when they get loaded up. One company that
came through was an easy load.  Something like half of 
their boxes were generic 1/4 truck boxes, with nice 
clear labels on the top of each one that had the contents, 
and the location printed out.  This box goes to FOH, that 
box to monitor world, etc.  They didn't need to have one 
of the tour guys standing at the door to direct each box 
during the whole loadin playing traffic cop.  
   There are no universal answers.  It's all about the 
tradeoffs one has to make.  

  --Dale


------------------------------

Subject: RE: labeling S4's
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:21:50 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9ABA [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
Cc: dale [at] cybercom.net

>   My preference for marking systems are that they should=20
> not be so obscure.  Thus someone not initiated into the=20
> system can still make use of them.  Someone who is into=20
> the system should be able to tell at a glance what it=20
> is. =20

Agreed, in theory.  Problem is, I'm more likely to have to identify
stuff that's already up in the air from the stage or apron.  At that
distance, just putting the degree number in multiple locations on the
barrel does nothing for me--even with my glasses I can't read something
that small at that distance.  And there's not enough room on the sides
of the accessory holder to write bigger.  In that case, something big
and bold has to work, but the tradeoff is in having to come up with a
system of big & bold symbols/colors/whatever that is simple, easy to
remember, and legible at fair distances.

------------------------------

Message-ID: <43D14873.3070407 [at] fredonia.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:30:43 -0500
From: "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Reply-To:  Rees [at] fredonia.edu
Subject: Re: Dirty Scrim
References: <list-26850391 [at] prxy.net>

Moe,
Suck, don't blow.  Blowing will just put the junk elsewhere in the air 
and then on the goods.

The vac with a clean wide floor nozzle will probably do OK. Vacuum from 
top to bottom in a straight line.

Steve Rees

Maurice Moe Conn wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Hello,
> I just pulled my scrim out of storage, Folded, Bagged, kept in a nice 
> clean environment(While stored)  The Scrim is in Great shape, no mold or 
> issues of funk.  However my Theatre and Shop pretty much share the same 
> work space.  So I now have lots of tiny white flecks of poo-poo on my 
> scrim.  From sawdust to fuzz.
> Any suggestions on how to get that off?  I have a compressor and blow 
> gun, I have a shop vac, I have 15 students with tweezers, I have a 
> dustbuster....I have not a clue.
> Oh if it matters its Black 22'x40'
> 
> Thanks
> Moe
> 
> Help support Long Reach Long Riders 2006 Charity Ride. For Donation 
> and/or Rider information, Check out: www.lrlr.org
> 



------------------------------

Message-ID: <dd9fa7100f8c8f7da16da43c639d1e7f [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:26:59 -0500
From:  <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Subject: Re: Dirty Scrim
Reply-to: <dale [at] cybercom.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-26850391 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26850391 [at] prxy.net>

On 2:25:12 pm 01/20/06 "Maurice Moe Conn" <t8rtekguy [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net
> />
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Hello,
> I just pulled my scrim out of storage, Folded, Bagged, kept in a nice
> clean environment(While stored)  The Scrim is in Great shape, no mold
> or issues of funk.  However my Theatre and Shop pretty much share the
> same work space. So I now have lots of tiny white flecks of poo-poo
> on my scrim.  From sawdust to fuzz.
> Any suggestions on how to get that off?  I have a compressor and blow
> gun, I have a shop vac, I have 15 students with tweezers, I have a
> dustbuster....I have not a clue.
> Oh if it matters its Black 22'x40'
>

  First thing to do is to clean up the shop and theater.  
Then go around with an air hose with blower attachment 
knocking all the dust off the walls and so on, then clean 
the place up again.   

  Stretch out the scrim along the ground underneath the 
pipe you want to hang it on.  Make sure that deck is 
super clean.  hang the scrim.  While this is happening, 
humidify the area to reduce static buildup. Spraying 
the deck with a little antistatic spray may also help. 

Recipe for antistatic spray.  Unscented, undyed 
detergent one part, to 10-15 parts water, put into 
a superfine sprayer or mister for application. 
Do not inhale, it tastes nasty.  

  with a small vacuum cleaner suck off the loose bits 
from the scrim while it is raised up.  extremely 
minimal spritzes of antistatic solution to the scrim.  
Don't want to let it get damp enough to mobilize the 
flame retardent salts.  The air being sucked into the 
vacuum cleaner will generate static.  Use a metal 
nozzle, ground the nozzle, and touch the scrim as 
needed to equalize charges.   

  --Dale


------------------------------

Message-ID: <BAY102-F6B006AE56630948B24A6FE01F0 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-26852170 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Maurice Moe Conn" <t8rtekguy [at] hotmail.com>
Cc: Rees [at] fredonia.edu
Subject: Re: Dirty Scrim
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:35:00 +0000

<Suck, don't blow. >

Ohhhh The Possib...nevermind

Moe



Help support Long Reach Long Riders 2006 Charity Ride. For Donation and/or 
Rider information, Check out: www.lrlr.org





>From: "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
>Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu
>To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>Subject: Re: Dirty Scrim
>Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:30:43 -0500
>
>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>Moe,
>Suck, don't blow.  Blowing will just put the junk elsewhere in the air and 
>then on the goods.
>
>The vac with a clean wide floor nozzle will probably do OK. Vacuum from top 
>to bottom in a straight line.
>
>Steve Rees
>
>Maurice Moe Conn wrote:
>>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>>---------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Hello,
>>I just pulled my scrim out of storage, Folded, Bagged, kept in a nice 
>>clean environment(While stored)  The Scrim is in Great shape, no mold or 
>>issues of funk.  However my Theatre and Shop pretty much share the same 
>>work space.  So I now have lots of tiny white flecks of poo-poo on my 
>>scrim.  From sawdust to fuzz.
>>Any suggestions on how to get that off?  I have a compressor and blow gun, 
>>I have a shop vac, I have 15 students with tweezers, I have a 
>>dustbuster....I have not a clue.
>>Oh if it matters its Black 22'x40'
>>
>>Thanks
>>Moe
>>
>>Help support Long Reach Long Riders 2006 Charity Ride. For Donation and/or 
>>Rider information, Check out: www.lrlr.org
>>
>
>



------------------------------

Message-ID: <f8208b67a909e9e2c3b1b91a38a23eaa [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:32:15 -0500
From:  <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Subject: Re: labeling S4's
Reply-to: <dale [at] cybercom.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-26851967 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26851967 [at] prxy.net>

On 3:21:50 pm 01/20/06 "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net
> />
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> >    My preference for marking systems are that they should
> >  not be so obscure.  Thus someone not initiated into the
> >  system can still make use of them.  Someone who is into
> >  the system should be able to tell at a glance what it
> >  is.
>
> Agreed, in theory.  Problem is, I'm more likely to have to identify
> stuff that's already up in the air from the stage or apron.  At that
> distance, just putting the degree number in multiple locations on the
> barrel does nothing for me--even with my glasses I can't read
> something that small at that distance.  And there's not enough room
> on the sides of the accessory holder to write bigger.  In that case,
> something big and bold has to work, but the tradeoff is in having to
> come up with a system of big & bold symbols/colors/whatever that is
> simple, easy to remember, and legible at fair distances.
>

  One can use colored paint markers to write the numbers.  
Satisfies both criteria for up to 20 feet or so.  For higher 
alttitudes, I suggest some sort of monucular.  I got a little 
one at The Expensiver Image last year for about 20 bucks which 
now lives in my gig bag.     

  --Dale


------------------------------

Subject: RE: Dirty Scrim
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:43:45 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9ABB [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> <Suck, don't blow. >
>=20
> Ohhhh The Possib...nevermind
>=20
> Moe

Y'know, I *was* just gonna leave that alone.  Wanted to see how long
it'd be before someone else's dirty mind just couldn't contain itself.
By my reckoning, we lasted a whole six minutes.

------------------------------

Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Lightweight Headset URL
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:57:03 -0500
Message-ID: <000f01c61e04$1105e7e0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-26844046 [at] prxy.net>


 
> Either of these the one? http://www.matgoebel.com/headset/headset.htm
> http://www.matgoebel.com/headset/headset2.htm

Thanks.  Is there any reason why this wouldn't work off 24V?  Would it fry
the circuitry?


------------------------------

Subject: vacuumform fire hydrant
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:23:44 -0800
Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B70538C123 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu>
From: "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>



Anyone have a source for a prop fire hydrant?  CBS Television Plastic =
used to carry them, but they are no longer answering their phone...

Cheers,
>=20
-- r.
=20
Randy Storms
rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu

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Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV12AB7267F92DF63F43C29BD1F0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
Cc: dale [at] cybercom.net
References: <list-26849884 [at] prxy.net> <list-26851580 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Tour loadouts
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:39:02 -0800


That reminded me of a hotel ball room show that I did that had no dock the 
truck showed up with no truck ramps and the truck was load by a fork lift 
and the truck had a "dance floor". We get to the dance floor of the truck 
and there was a big box on wheels labeled 5400 lbs sand bags, being a person 
that hates to double handle things, got the crew in the truck and told them 
to push as hard as they could, most of the box cleared the dance floor, it 
took a little bit more effort to land the rest of the box to the truck 
floor. But what surprised me that the truck floor took that impact.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dale [at] cybercom.net>
>   I do get annoyed at rental companies who build huge
> cable boxes with undersized wheels that weigh several
> hundred pounds when they get loaded up. >
>   --Dale
>
> 

------------------------------

Subject: RE: vacuumform fire hydrant
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:39:44 -0500
Message-ID: <8E36ACD2B4D8DA47932F8A105D9A3BF219D5C7 [at] iu-mssg-mbx09.exchange.iu.edu>
From: "Meixner, Rebekkah J" <rmeixner [at] ius.edu>

BMI Supply carries the Vacform Fire Hydrants. They can found on page 81
of the 2005 catalog.


Rebekkah J. Meixner

Assistant Professor of Technical Theatre

Theatre Department

Indiana University Southeast

4201 Grant Line Road

New Albany, IN 47150

812-941-2653


-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Storms,
Randy
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 4:24 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: vacuumform fire hydrant

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Anyone have a source for a prop fire hydrant?  CBS Television Plastic
used to carry them, but they are no longer answering their phone...

Cheers,
>=20
-- r.
=20
Randy Storms
rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu



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Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV13353412054BD84C268A23DF1F0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Laura McMeley" <LMcMeley [at] msn.com>
Subject: 4k HMI PANIs
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:07:31 -0600
Message-ID: <005201c61e16$539efd00$36548304 [at] tdolighting01>

I am looking for 5 4k HMI PANI projectors for our next production. So far
all my sources have come up dry. Can anybody out there on the list point me
in a good direction?


Laura McMeley
Resident Lighting Coordinator
The Dallas Opera
972-333-5016
http://www.geocities.com/lmcmeley/


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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:31:18 -0500
Subject: Re: It's happened again....
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BFF6DCF6.CD54%bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-26847119 [at] prxy.net>

> The commitment level has dropped, in my humble opinion. Kids are being
> placed in so many different activities they are spreading everything too
> thin. They either start quitting activities or start failing classes.
> This is carrying over into their professional lives.

    Whilst this is certainly true, it is also a societal move away from "Job
loyalty". Time was when a man could spend his life with an employer.
Nowadays, "Job hopping" is the name of the game. Works both ways of course -
employers are less loyal to their employees also. Corporate mergers and
downsizing makes individual workers insignificant.

    This tends to breed a sense that loyalty is an "Old fashioned concept".

    Kids work at McDonalds for a month or two, then they don't feel like
coming in so they quit - no notice. A week or two  later they are working at
the book shop - for a little while - and the cycle continues.

    Theatre is sacred to many of us, but it's "Just another job" to too many
- and a responsible, loyal attitude is not a part of the culture for them.

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House



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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <230.5852118.3102cce7 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:31:51 EST
Subject: Re: Scenery and Flame Retardant

In a message dated 20/01/06 19:05:00 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes:

> >I think Chris may agree. Stupidity is a contra-survival mutation.
>  
>  I may indeed.  (See, I told you I have no problem agreeing with Frank when
>  he's dead-on!)

We have been discussing various topics on this list for some time, now. 
Sometimes with acrimony, sometimes in agreement. I think that I have a fair idea 
about how your mind works, as you probably have about mine. Being a lazy man, I 
often don't bother to post when you have said what needs to be said: why 
clutter up the list with posting "me too" messages?

This goes for many others. I make no claim to be a pundit, so saying that I 
agree is of little point. It's only when I think that there is wrong 
information, or extra information that I have, that I dive in, as a rule.


Frank Wood

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From: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <296.4255191.3102cf07 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:40:55 EST
Subject: Re: It's happened again....

_stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com_ (mailto:stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com)   writes:
<<  Are college programs not teaching professional  ethics?>> 

Can't give what you don't have. I see a lot of  unethical things across 
academia as well as in business. Best thing that can  happen is that those folks 
are "outed" buy the ones who got burned and that  reputation becomes and stays 
more important than credientials.
 
Kristi
 
 
 

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Message-ID: <43D1751F.907 [at] dreampossible.ca>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:41:19 -0500
From: Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
Organization: Dreampossible Inc.
Subject: Re: It's happened again....
References: <list-26856301 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-26856301 [at] prxy.net>

Bruce Purdy wrote:
>     Whilst this is certainly true, it is also a societal move away from "Job
> loyalty".

From loyalty in general, I'd say. Time was it meant something to say
"I've been a customer for many years." Now, it seems the accountants are
running everything, and all that matters to them is the bottom line. As
an example, I've been royally shafted and treated with absolutely no
respect by my insurance broker and/or insurance company (long story
which I won't bore you with). The fact that I've been a customer of
theirs for well over 20 years doesn't make a bit of difference.

-- 
Jim Hyslop


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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <149.54b745c7.3102cfb5 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:43:49 EST
Subject: Re: labeling S4's

In a message dated 20/01/06 19:29:51 GMT Standard Time, dale [at] cybercom.net 
writes:

>   What I usually see in rental stocks are someone writing 
>  the degree number on the flat spots of the gel frame 
>  holders with paint markers.  This allows you to look at 
>  one laying on the ground or standing on it's nose and have 
>  a decent chance of seeing the number.  SOme also color 
>  code the numbers.  Some folks put colors/numbers on the 
>  yokes as well. 

We don't have a meeting of minds across the pond here. I suppose that it 
depends on ease of access. All our S4s are varifocal (zoom). There is a price in 
optical effiency, but it is small. But at focus time, I think it is a great 
advantage.


Frank Wood

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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:59:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Dirty Scrim
From: "Curtis L. Mortimore" <clmortimore [at] bsu.edu>
Message-ID: <BFF6E3A0.3695%clmortimore [at] bsu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-26852312 [at] prxy.net>

> <Suck, don't blow. >
> 
> Ohhhh The Possib...nevermind

When you started all you had was a dirty scrim, now look at the mess you've
made... and, I'm not sure you can clean that.
-- 
Curtis L. Mortimore
Technical Director
Ball State University
Department of Theatre and Dance
Muncie, IN 47306
<clmortimore [at] bsu.edu>


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Message-ID: <008f01c61e1e$dba2ce90$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200>
From: "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] cableone.net>
References: <list-26849884 [at] prxy.net> <list-26851580 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Tour loadouts
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:08:50 -0700

Just last month;
I had twenty hands and four loaders standing there looking at me and a
steward who knew exactly what I was doing. The hands and loaders kept
quiet because of the fact the steward, and the more experienced hands,
were not urging to get the truck loaded.

The last show was a repack of the normal pack.  Things going in
different directions.   I must have looked at the last 20 cases, piano,
and riser cart.... and the last half of  a 53' truck,  two dozen times
before the doors closed and we had  four inches of space left.
The Steward knew that the hands and loaders did not want to unload and
reload with "over enthusiasm" to get the truck loaded and outta there.
It was done once.
It was done right:  For Me, the Truck driver, the people who were going
to unload it in three different locations where the truck was going, and
the local crew's sanity.

My thanks went to the Steward and the crew for being patient and the
fact that we did  "only have to do it once"

I didn't have the "a bigger truck"  OH MY that happens with such rarity.
(OK, The Video truck had beaucoup room, but I didn't get to pack THAT
one.)

Robert Riddle
Will Disagree for the Sake of Discussion
Will Discuss for the Sake of Learning


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Message-ID: <00b801c61e22$b3b56a10$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200>
From: "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] cableone.net>
Cc: Rees [at] fredonia.edu
References: <list-26850391 [at] prxy.net> <list-26852170 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Dirty Scrim
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:36:21 -0700

Moe.
If, after you have cleaned it consider west coasting and wrapping a full
length diaper around it, and the batten on which it hangs, to keep it
tidy while not using it.
Steve Rees has the right idea. Check the nozzle for any burrs!  The
static situation shouldn't have a bearing on it if folded as above,  for
almost immediate use. Do keep something on the floor or have a very
clean floor when cleaning. Oh, clean front and back if folding.
depending on how you fold it.

You probably have at least one anal retentive, (let's use the word
picky) student, who might pick off them little things that the vacuum
doesn't get.

Robert Riddle
Will Disagree for the Sake of Discussion
Will Discuss for the Sake of Learning

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Dirty Scrim


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Moe,
> Suck, don't blow.  Blowing will just put the junk elsewhere in the air
> and then on the goods.
>
> The vac with a clean wide floor nozzle will probably do OK. Vacuum
from
> top to bottom in a straight line.
>
> Steve Rees
>
> Maurice Moe Conn wrote:
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Hello,
> > I just pulled my scrim out of storage, Folded, Bagged, kept in a
nice
> > clean environment(While stored)  The Scrim is in Great shape, no
mold or
> > issues of funk.  However my Theatre and Shop pretty much share the
same
> > work space.  So I now have lots of tiny white flecks of poo-poo on
my
> > scrim.  From sawdust to fuzz.
> > Any suggestions on how to get that off?  I have a compressor and
blow
> > gun, I have a shop vac, I have 15 students with tweezers, I have a
> > dustbuster....I have not a clue.
> > Oh if it matters its Black 22'x40'
> >
> > Thanks
> > Moe
> >
> > Help support Long Reach Long Riders 2006 Charity Ride. For Donation
> > and/or Rider information, Check out: www.lrlr.org
> >
>
>


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Message-ID: <BAY102-F959D81F6002713E32CAB9E01E0 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-26857451 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Maurice Moe Conn" <t8rtekguy [at] hotmail.com>
Cc: Rees [at] fredonia.edu
Subject: Re: Dirty Scrim
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:59:48 +0000

I got no fly space. but  a great sprung tension grid.  Thanks though.

Moe



Help support Long Reach Long Riders 2006 Charity Ride. For Donation and/or 
Rider information, Check out: www.lrlr.org





>From: "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] cableone.net>
>Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>CC: Rees [at] fredonia.edu
>Subject: Re: Dirty Scrim
>Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:36:21 -0700
>
>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>Moe.
>If, after you have cleaned it consider west coasting and wrapping a full
>length diaper around it, and the batten on which it hangs, to keep it
>tidy while not using it.
>Steve Rees has the right idea. Check the nozzle for any burrs!  The
>static situation shouldn't have a bearing on it if folded as above,  for
>almost immediate use. Do keep something on the floor or have a very
>clean floor when cleaning. Oh, clean front and back if folding.
>depending on how you fold it.
>
>You probably have at least one anal retentive, (let's use the word
>picky) student, who might pick off them little things that the vacuum
>doesn't get.
>
>Robert Riddle
>Will Disagree for the Sake of Discussion
>Will Discuss for the Sake of Learning
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
>To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:30 PM
>Subject: Re: Dirty Scrim
>
>
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
><http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Moe,
> > Suck, don't blow.  Blowing will just put the junk elsewhere in the air
> > and then on the goods.
> >
> > The vac with a clean wide floor nozzle will probably do OK. Vacuum
>from
> > top to bottom in a straight line.
> >
> > Steve Rees
> >
> > Maurice Moe Conn wrote:
> > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
><http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > > ---------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > I just pulled my scrim out of storage, Folded, Bagged, kept in a
>nice
> > > clean environment(While stored)  The Scrim is in Great shape, no
>mold or
> > > issues of funk.  However my Theatre and Shop pretty much share the
>same
> > > work space.  So I now have lots of tiny white flecks of poo-poo on
>my
> > > scrim.  From sawdust to fuzz.
> > > Any suggestions on how to get that off?  I have a compressor and
>blow
> > > gun, I have a shop vac, I have 15 students with tweezers, I have a
> > > dustbuster....I have not a clue.
> > > Oh if it matters its Black 22'x40'
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Moe
> > >
> > > Help support Long Reach Long Riders 2006 Charity Ride. For Donation
> > > and/or Rider information, Check out: www.lrlr.org
> > >
> >
> >
>



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Message-ID: <BAY102-F121F4BD820EA3C9AF468B2B41E0 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-26857451 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Shelley Seifert" <shellybellycc13 [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Dirty Scrim
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:18:44 -0500

Moe,
   You don't have students like that ....do you? hehehe (not me atleast) So 
which method are we going with here??? And you won, Bill wasn't the first to 
reply, glad I didn't bet money. Let me know what is going on with it, and 
how soon we are taking care of it. Oh, good job with the suck and blow 
thing, way to get things started. :P But atleast you got a lot of 
information out of all this.

Shelley



>
>Moe.
>If, after you have cleaned it consider west coasting and wrapping a full
>length diaper around it, and the batten on which it hangs, to keep it
>tidy while not using it.
>Steve Rees has the right idea. Check the nozzle for any burrs!  The
>static situation shouldn't have a bearing on it if folded as above,  for
>almost immediate use. Do keep something on the floor or have a very
>clean floor when cleaning. Oh, clean front and back if folding.
>depending on how you fold it.
>
>You probably have at least one anal retentive, (let's use the word
>picky) student, who might pick off them little things that the vacuum
>doesn't get.
>
>Robert Riddle
>Will Disagree for the Sake of Discussion
>Will Discuss for the Sake of Learning
>

> >
> > Moe,
> > Suck, don't blow.  Blowing will just put the junk elsewhere in the air
> > and then on the goods.
> >
> > The vac with a clean wide floor nozzle will probably do OK. Vacuum
>from
> > top to bottom in a straight line.
> >
> > Steve Rees
> >

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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:00:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: 4k HMI PANIs
In-reply-to: <list-26855840 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <2961.172.152.218.180.1137808803.squirrel [at] 172.152.218.180>
References: <list-26855840 [at] prxy.net>

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I am looking for 5 4k HMI PANI projectors for our next production. So far
> all my sources have come up dry. Can anybody out there on the list point
> me
> in a good direction?

Have you tried the assorted PRG shops?

Steve Litterst



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Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060120181343.01fa0d80 [at] interstellar.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:15:00 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Lightweight Headset URL
In-Reply-To: <list-26853019 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26844046 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-26853019 [at] prxy.net>

At 12:57 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote:
> > Either of these the one? http://www.matgoebel.com/headset/headset.htm
> > http://www.matgoebel.com/headset/headset2.htm
>
>Thanks.  Is there any reason why this wouldn't work off 24V?  Would it fry
>the circuitry?

Depends on the microphone, but most aren't rated for that much 
voltage.  You can add another resistor and a zener diode or a small 
3-terminal regulator to drop the voltage.


-- 
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Lightweight Headset URL
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:41:14 -0500
Message-ID: <000b01c61e34$260a26d0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-reply-to: <list-26859406 [at] prxy.net>



> >Thanks.  Is there any reason why this wouldn't work off 24V? 
>  Would it 
> >fry the circuitry?
> 
> Depends on the microphone, but most aren't rated for that much 
> voltage.  You can add another resistor and a zener diode or a small 
> 3-terminal regulator to drop the voltage.

..And we should just solder the resister and diode...anywhere?


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Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060120184957.01f540c8 [at] interstellar.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:57:01 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Lightweight Headset URL
In-Reply-To: <list-26860260 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26859406 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-26860260 [at] prxy.net>

At 06:41 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote:



>..And we should just solder the resister and diode...anywhere?

24V+ goes to one end of a 2.2K, 1/4W resistor

The other end of the resistor goes to the cathode of a 4.7V zener

The anode of the zener goes to ground.

You now can pick off 4.7V from the cathode to power the microphone.


***
Notes:
You can add a small capacitor from the cathode to ground to reduce 
noise, if that's a problem.

this will draw about 10mA from the 24V supply.  You may very well 
find this works fine with a larger value resistor.  It depends on 
what the microphone needs, many/most only need 1mA or less so you 
could try up to a 20K resistor.

The cathode end has a bar, stripe, or is pointed.

That clear enough?



-- 
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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