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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #662

 1. (Stupid Question) Electrical codes regarding fixtures/plugs
    by <elvisisntdead [at] gmail.com>
 2. in home armaments
    by "Riter, Andrew \(Head Ltg\)" <chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca>
 3. Re: (Stupid Question) Electrical codes regarding fixtures/plugs
    by <dale [at] cybercom.net>
 4. Re: in home armaments
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
 5. Re: labelling S4
    by "Riter, Andrew \(Head Ltg\)" <chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca>
 6. Re: (Stupid Question) Electrical codes regarding fixtures/plugs
    by "Matthew Breton" <theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com>
 7. Re: 4k HMI PANIs
    by "Laura McMeley" <LMcMeley [at] msn.com>
 8. Re: 4k HMI PANIs
    by "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
 9. Re: Lightweight Headset URL
    by Mat Goebel <mgoebel [at] gmail.com>
10. loadouts
    by Judy <kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il>
11. Re: Lightweight Headset URL
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>

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Message-ID: <dad6a39e0601201938j724dee47xc03e91a43197eb6c [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:38:21 -0500
From:  <elvisisntdead [at] gmail.com>
Subject: (Stupid Question) Electrical codes regarding fixtures/plugs

A very stupid question but do anyone know if there are any specific
electrical codes/standards that pertain to replugging/rewiring of
theatre light fixtures? Such as any strange rule that a certified
electrician is needed to rewire a light fixture (nothing to do with
acutal dimming/power supply) or to change plugs? Or there is some it
is a code violation for an "untrained" person to do this work?

 Thanks
 Vik Patella

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Subject: in home armaments
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:40:21 -0800
Message-ID: <0E0CDE94AC5F92428C823684D00244E602038EEB [at] exchange10.mercury.ad.ubc.ca>
From: "Riter, Andrew \(Head Ltg\)" <chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca>

>He also had live anti-aircraft rounds in his attic, and stuff like=20
>that.  No idea what he was planning to do with it, but when he=20
>decided to move to Canada he had to dispose of most of it.
=20
>Jerry Durand

aw Christ, he's up here now?  We don't want him, can you take him back?  =


Andrew M. Riter
Head Lighting Technician
Chan Centre for the Performing Arts
University of British Columbia
6265 Crescent Road
Vancouver, BC, V6T 1Z1
604-822-2372
604-822-1606 fax
chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca


*************
You understand, we are tied down to a language which makes up in =
obscurity what it lacks in style
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Stoppard, R&G are Dead
*********************


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Message-ID: <469dec9db97f302c9f4978e87a2d3ffe [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:41:36 -0500
From:  <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Subject: Re: (Stupid Question) Electrical codes regarding fixtures/plugs
Reply-to: <dale [at] cybercom.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-26861334 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26861334 [at] prxy.net>

On 10:38:21 pm 01/20/06 <elvisisntdead [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net
> />
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> A very stupid question but do anyone know if there are any specific
> electrical codes/standards that pertain to replugging/rewiring of
> theatre light fixtures? Such as any strange rule that a certified
> electrician is needed to rewire a light fixture (nothing to do with
> acutal dimming/power supply) or to change plugs? Or there is some it
> is a code violation for an "untrained" person to do this work?
>
>  Thanks
>  Vik Patella
>

  For UL listed equipment, there is some sort of requirement 
that only 'qualified service personell' perform repairs.  This 
would only, of course, apply to UL listed equipment, and it 
isn't a law, just an insurance regulation in the USA.  US 
electrical codes mostly apply to the stuff up to the place 
that the fixture plugs into.  

There may be some sort of local code requirement in your 
town/county/province/country.  

  --Dale


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In-Reply-To: <list-26861385 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26861385 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <46274939-5647-4A3A-9A4E-B13ACD2E28B3 [at] interstellar.com>
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: in home armaments
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:51:00 -0800


On Jan 20, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg) wrote:

> aw Christ, he's up here now?  We don't want him, can you take him  
> back?

Sorry, he's all settled in now, but he's a bit to the East of you.



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Subject: re: labelling S4
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:58:14 -0800
Message-ID: <0E0CDE94AC5F92428C823684D00244E602038EEC [at] exchange10.mercury.ad.ubc.ca>
From: "Riter, Andrew \(Head Ltg\)" <chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca>

For labeling the S4 barrels better than they come shipped from the =
factory, we use pentel paint markers.  We dot or square a =
white/red/yellow mark on each side, top and bottom of the gel holder.  =
You can see the mark from any direction.  The pentel holds up pretty =
well.=20

Andrew M. Riter
Head Lighting Technician
Chan Centre for the Performing Arts
University of British Columbia
6265 Crescent Road
Vancouver, BC, V6T 1Z1
604-822-2372
604-822-1606 fax
chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca


*************
You understand, we are tied down to a language which makes up in =
obscurity what it lacks in style
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Stoppard, R&G are Dead
*********************


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Message-ID: <BAY112-F1012BE53B63652AB2A1EA9DA1E0 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-26861334 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Matthew Breton" <theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: (Stupid Question) Electrical codes regarding fixtures/plugs
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:31:26 -0500

>A very stupid question but do anyone know if there are any specific
>electrical codes/standards that pertain to replugging/rewiring of
>theatre light fixtures?

Well -- there are plenty that regulate how electrical devices of any nature 
are wired.  I don't believe any are specific to theater lighting 
instruments, except those that describe stage pin plugs.

>Such as any strange rule that a certified
>electrician is needed to rewire a light fixture (nothing to do with
>acutal dimming/power supply) or to change plugs? Or there is some it
>is a code violation for an "untrained" person to do this work?

Two sides to this.  One, electricity can be dangerous, and an improperly 
wired instrument can cause all sorts of problems -- some short term, some 
long term, some destructive to the instrument itself, and others possibly 
causing problems with other electric devices on the same circuit, yet alone 
a Violent End of Life.  So it should be done by someone who knows what 
they're doing.

That being said, it's not all that difficult to trade out plugs: the 
mechanics are pretty simple, and most plugs are designed to be easy to use.  
Trading out the lamp socket is a little more involving, especially because 
some instruments require you to disassemble other portions of the instrument 
to remove the socket (fresnels, I'm looking at you). And moving lights are 
there own special and very expensive world.  Some manufacturers .might. also 
consider changing the plugs enough to void a warranty; but look into that, 
but I stress the hypothetical nature of that comment.

It sounds like you're dealing with a particular situation here.


-- Matt

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Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV9C9DB8CB607EAEFBDDADFDF1E0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Laura McMeley" <LMcMeley [at] msn.com>
Subject: RE: 4k HMI PANIs
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:40:09 -0600
Message-ID: <001b01c61e4d$24329e50$6600a8c0 [at] tdolighting01>
In-Reply-To: <list-26859031 [at] prxy.net>

When you say "assorted shops" do you mean that calling one shop doesn't get
me the resources of all their shops? I always assumed if I asked PRG in NY
for equipment, they would query all PRG locations if they didn't have it
there. Is this not true?

Laura
972-333-5016


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Litterst
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:00 PM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: 4k HMI PANIs
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I am looking for 5 4k HMI PANI projectors for our next production. So
> far
> > all my sources have come up dry. Can anybody out there on the list point
> > me
> > in a good direction?
> 
> Have you tried the assorted PRG shops?
> 
> Steve Litterst
> 


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Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV343A2B2DD96FAC3CABD90BD1E0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
References: <list-26863921 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: 4k HMI PANIs
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:55:51 -0800

Laura, PRG owns 80% of the lighting equipment out there for rental. Panies 
fall in what they have.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura McMeley" <LMcMeley [at] msn.com>
>
> When you say "assorted shops" do you mean that calling one shop doesn't 
> get
> me the resources of all their shops? I always assumed if I asked PRG in NY
> for equipment, they would query all PRG locations if they didn't have it
> there. Is this not true?
>
> Laura
> 972-333-5016
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Stephen
> > Litterst
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:00 PM
> > To: Stagecraft
> > Subject: Re: 4k HMI PANIs
> >
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> > > <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > > ---------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > I am looking for 5 4k HMI PANI projectors for our next production. So
> > far
> > > all my sources have come up dry. Can anybody out there on the list 
> > > point
> > > me
> > > in a good direction?
> >
> > Have you tried the assorted PRG shops?
> >
> > Steve Litterst
> >
>
> 

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Message-ID: <d983c4a0601202354o565e0be5k [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:54:46 -0800
From: Mat Goebel <mgoebel [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lightweight Headset URL
In-Reply-To: <list-26860657 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-26859406 [at] prxy.net> <list-26860260 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-26860657 [at] prxy.net>

Why would you want to run it off 24v?

On 20/01/06, Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> At 06:41 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote:
>
>
>
> >..And we should just solder the resister and diode...anywhere?
>
> 24V+ goes to one end of a 2.2K, 1/4W resistor
>
> The other end of the resistor goes to the cathode of a 4.7V zener
>
> The anode of the zener goes to ground.
>
> You now can pick off 4.7V from the cathode to power the microphone.
>
>
> ***
> Notes:
> You can add a small capacitor from the cathode to ground to reduce
> noise, if that's a problem.
>
> this will draw about 10mA from the 24V supply.  You may very well
> find this works fine with a larger value resistor.  It depends on
> what the microphone needs, many/most only need 1mA or less so you
> could try up to a 20K resistor.
>
> The cathode end has a bar, stripe, or is pointed.
>
> That clear enough?


--
Mat Goebel
www.matgoebel.com
Mobile: 510.693.1448

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Message-ID: <43D1F8A3.2050102 [at] post.tau.ac.il>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:02:27 +0200
From: Judy <kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il>
Subject: loadouts

>
>
>I'm always ready to learn a new and different way of doing things, but late
>night load-outs aren't my favorite time.  I want a sure-fire, seen it done
>that way twice already, this'll get you to the bar for one before bed
>method.
>
I used to be like that too, after I went through enough years of 
experience to find out I really did know best.  But sometimes I found 
doing it their way might take longer and it might mean you have to jam 
stuff in upside down, and yet it is occasionally preferable to let 
people do it their way. Sometimes it gets you to the bar later, but with 
a better atmosphere. People in theater are often strong individualists 
who like to figure out their own way of doing things, and sometimes it's 
worth giving them the chance even if they are wrong. It can make for 
better work all around. It's not always of primary importance to impose 
your own way of doing things.

That said, when it gets really late I don't have the patience for that 
kind of wisdom, at some point you want to just get it done right and go 
home! Especially when they are being paid for this!

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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Lightweight Headset URL
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:53:01 -0500
Message-ID: <000001c61e78$d9eacb70$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-26866200 [at] prxy.net>


 
> Why would you want to run it off 24v?

...Because I often run comm off a 24V wall-wart (you don't really need
Clear-Com's $400 base station) and this way, I can power it off the comm
line and not worry about the 9V battery dying in mid-rehearsal.


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