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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 27027117; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 03:03:17 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #668 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 03:00:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, INITIAL_INVEST autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #668 1. Vacuform fridge and stove by "Robert Napoli" 2. Re: OT Request by Bill Sapsis 3. Re: Cutawl by "Tom Hackman" 4. Re: Cutawl and gobo cutting by "Stephen E. Rees" 5. Re: OT Request by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 6. Re: Longstar Logo and Brewery (was cutawl) by Rick Malone 7. Re: OT Request by "Rock, Michael Edward" 8. Re: OT Request by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 9. Re: Longstar Logo and Brewery (was cutawl) by Barney Simon 10. beer on stage (was cutawl and....) by "Davis, Thomas J" 11. Big Bro will be watching US by "Ray-Pfeifer, Merel" 12. Rear Projection Question by "Tom Hackman" 13. Re: OT Request by "Howard Ires" 14. Re: Cutawl and gobo cutting by "Jon Ares" 15. Re: Rear Projection Question by "Ash Munro" 16. Re: Pyro License by SS 17. Re: Rear Projection Question by "Stephen E. Rees" 18. Re: Rear Projection Question by Ford Sellers 19. Re: Pyro License by CB 20. Re: Cutawl by CB 21. Re: backlight material by "richard j. archer" 22. Re: It's happened again.... by Jerry Durand 23. Re: Rear Projection Question by Ken Romaine 24. Re: Rear Projection Question by 25. "tinyurl"ize by Paul Marsland 26. Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) by Bruce Purdy 27. Longstar Logo and Brewery (was cutawl) Followup by "G. D. George" 28. Re: Rear Projection Question by 29. Re: backlight material by Bruce Purdy 30. Re: Pyro License by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 31. Re: by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 32. Re: by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 33. Re: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) by Greg Bierly 34. Re: Rear Projection Question by Greg Bierly 35. Re: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) by Bruce Purdy 36. Re: OFF TOPIC- Stumble (was Hyperlinks) (was Cutawl) by "Abby Downing" 37. Re: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) by "Paul Schreiner" 38. Re: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) by "Davis, Thomas J" 39. Re: question on design software (a looooonnngg question) by "Michael Diederich" 40. Re: backlight material by 41. Re: Rear Projection Question by 42. VW PDF Problem (was RE: question on design software (a looooonnngg question)) by "C. Andrew Dunning" 43. Re: VW PDF (was: question on design software) by Bill Peeler 44. Re: question on design software (a looooonnngg question) by Andrew Vance 45. Re: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) by Mark O'Brien 46. Re: VW PDF (was: question on design software) by Bruce Purdy 47. Re: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) by Bruce Purdy 48. Re: VW PDF (was: question on design software) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 49. Re: Molded "Y" two-fers by "Bill Nelson" 50. Rhinoceri and tigers and bears... by "Don Taco" 51. Re: VW PDF Problem (was RE: question on design software (a looooonnngg question) by "Jon Ares" 52. Re: VW PDF (was: question on design software) by "Jon Ares" 53. AC Cable for sale by Michael Powers 54. Re: Rhinoceri and tigers and bears... by "David Stock" 55. Re: Cutawl by Paul Guncheon 56. Re: Cutawl by Mark O'Brien 57. Re: Rhinoceri and tigers and bears... by J Burch 58. Re: Rhinoceri and tigers and bears... by "Don Taco" 59. Air lift casters (was Re: Casters) by Michael Powers 60. Re: Zero-throw Casters by David d'Anjou *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <200601251246.k0PCjvW1090038 [at] f05n15.cac.psu.edu> From: "Robert Napoli" Subject: Vacuform fridge and stove Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:49:03 -0500 I need a fridge and stove that can breakdown and store in a ridiculously small space. Does anyone have a lead on Vaccuformed kitchen appliances? Rob Napoli TD/ Designer PSU Berks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:27:42 -0500 Subject: Re: OT Request From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Howdy. My son is on the First League robotics club at his high school. They just got this year's challenge info and now there's a mad scramble to get a robot built. They are in need of a machine shop. I don't have any drawings yet but have seen examples of their drafting abilities and it's beyond excellent. Anyone have access to a shop that could build some parts? Continental US/Canada only, please. Thanks Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001d01c621b5$91cee390$87d11ed8 [at] Hackman1> From: "Tom Hackman" References: Subject: Re: Cutawl Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:45:09 -0500 Merel wrote: Cutawl is a FABILOUS tool that I have never seen a better replacement for. I just found one stashed away in the prop room. Heavy, tough, a sweet tool. You don't need one every day but for those detailed cut outs it can't be beat. I think Mutual Hardware still carries the blades for them. Does anybody have a source for the drive belts on Cutawls? I love mine but it has been emitting that 'my belt is burning up' smell of late. Thanks, Tom ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43D784EB.6050301 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:02:19 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Cutawl and gobo cutting References: 15 years ago or more the Lone Star customer service or marketing people fixed me up with all kinds of adverts, posters, and other bar decor for a Texas-themed production. Got a tie tak and a FINE belt buckle with a built-in bottle opener as a bonus. Steve CB wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >>Any suggestions? > > > Ya tried contacting the Lone Star Brewery in San Antonio,TX? Isn't there a > lister in SA? Texans are a pretty proud bunch, play on their nationalism. > Tell 'em that you are dissatisfied with your present solution, as it > doens't do the beer justice. Your new gobos should be in the mail, next > dayed. ; > > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ > > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: RE: OT Request Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:06:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20060125140634.LPHW5216.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> > Anyone have access to a shop that could build some parts? > Continental US/Canada only, please. Every month I see the magazine ads for these guys: http://www.iitmetalfab.com/ Haven't tried them yet, but I probably will soon. Jim www.theatrewireless.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060125140823.31367.qmail [at] web80507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 06:08:23 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Malone Subject: Re: Longstar Logo and Brewery (was cutawl) Lone Star is no longer brewed here in San Antonio. Aside from a couple of brewpubs, no beer is brewed here now. Pearl is closed as well as Lone Star. I believe that LS is brewed in either Ft Worth or Longview. The "official Site" at this link would have you believe that it's brewed here , but no. http://www.puretexanbeer.com/index2.html If you really need a copy of the logo, I can pick up some and peel off the label. Contact me off list. I would go the etch route to do the gobo. It's messy and somewhat hazardous, but the results are worth it. I've made some incredibly intricate patterns using this method. Rick Malone in San Antonio who doesn't drink Lone Star ------------------------------ Subject: Re: OT Request Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:10:24 -0600 Message-ID: <2121C6A125DFE64FAC02D41B52C3391602585EF4 [at] msc.uwgb.edu> From: "Rock, Michael Edward" Have you tried the local tech school? When I was in high school the tech = ed department built a mini-chopper while we had a nice machine shop the = tech had a very nice shop staffed with students who need practice. =20 Mike =20 =20 ----------------------- Howdy. My son is on the First League robotics club at his high school. They just got this year's challenge info and now there's a mad scramble = to get a robot built. They are in need of a machine shop. I don't have = any drawings yet but have seen examples of their drafting abilities and it's beyond excellent. Anyone have access to a shop that could build some = parts? Continental US/Canada only, please. -------------------- ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:35:43 GMT Subject: Re: OT Request Message-Id: <20060125.063638.10965.34221 [at] webmail36.lax.untd.com> Dear Bill, I do hope that the final product is featured in, or at least illust= rates, the Sapsis catalog! It would be great if his club wins, of course= , but experiencing the trade-offs present in Mechanical and Electrical E= ngineering by Committee is the true benefit he'll receive. /s/ Richard _____________________________ Howdy. My son is on the First League robotics club at his high school. = They just got this year's challenge info and now there's a mad scramble = to get a robot built. They are in need of a machine shop. I don't have= any drawings yet but have seen examples of their drafting abilities and= it's beyond excellent. Anyone have access to a shop that could build s= ome parts? Continental US/Canada only, please. Thanks Bill S. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43D78DE1.3090808 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:40:33 -0500 From: Barney Simon Reply-To: Barney [at] JosephCHansen.com Organization: Joseph C Hansen Co., Inc Subject: Re: Longstar Logo and Brewery (was cutawl) References: In-Reply-To: Rick Malone wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Lone Star is no longer brewed here in San Antonio. Does that mean the brewery and the hall of horns is gone? (no, I did not look at the website) -- Barney Simon JC Hansen Co., Inc Drapes Drops and Dance Floors 423 West 43rd Street, NYC 212-246-8055 F:212-246-8189 JCHansen.com 866-988-8055 ------------------------------ Subject: beer on stage (was cutawl and....) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:43:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3CF87682970858499CA56707FB1F092BCBF3D2 [at] wscc-s-003000.westshore.edu> From: "Davis, Thomas J" Chris wrote: Ya tried contacting the Lone Star Brewery in San Antonio,TX? ____________________________________________________________ Can we assume you might also need some Lone Star d=E9cor and some beer = on the tables? Beer companies can be great prop sources. If they are like Leinenkugel (for you poor, uninformed, deprived souls, = this is a great brewery in Wisconsin), they will send you anything you = need, might even lend you an illuminated sign and save you the trouble = of needing gobos. We've done productions of "Escanaba in da Moonlight" = and "Guys on Ice" and the Leinie's folks have provided all manner of = posters and memorabilia, and they provided "beer" for both shows in the = form of real cans packed with water. They even carbonate the water = slightly so the can sounds right when opened. Being an alcohol free campus, we couldn't use the real thing. Plus, it = has been my observation over the years that some actors have a problem = remembering their lines if they drink a six pack during act I. Believe = me, I do sometimes miss my own college days at UW-Green Bay, when a cold = one after a long day was as close as the student union (the "Shorewood" = if I remember right...maybe I had one too many once, I should be able to = remember that, lol). Tom D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:53:58 -0500 Subject: Big Bro will be watching US From: "Ray-Pfeifer, Merel" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: And now GW Bush is going be tapping into and monitoring our list for Security Reasons. Merel On 1/24/06 3:15 PM, "Stephen Litterst" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Jerry Durand wrote: > >> --------------------------------------------------- >> So much for terrorists >> using fireworks to blow up buildings (it CAN be done, but a trip to the >> drug store will get you a bigger bang cheaper). > > Geez, Jerry. Making comments like that will end up with every CVS and > Walgreen's being closed for Homeland Security reasons. :-D > > Steve L. > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002b01c621c1$0be612b0$87d11ed8 [at] Hackman1> From: "Tom Hackman" References: Subject: Rear Projection Question Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:07:03 -0500 Oh wise and merciful Stagecraft List: I am in search of some sage wisdom. We are looking at doing some projection for an upcoming production. Probably Powerpoint kind of stuff. Nothing too fancy. My preference would be to use a rear projection screen to simplify making a non-rectangular, non-white screen in my proscenium. (I am building a false proscenium actually) I have been looking at buying some RP screen from Rosebrand. But before I spend the money... Does anybody have a minimum lumens suggestion for rear projection? I have no experience in this kind of thing, so any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom Hackman Technical Director Davis & Elkins College Elkins, WV ------------------------------ From: "Howard Ires" Subject: Re: OT Request Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:12:21 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: check this out: http://www.emachineshop.com/ -----------------h ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000f01c621c2$beb828f0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Cutawl and gobo cutting Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:19:33 -0800 > Got a tie tak and a FINE belt buckle with a built-in bottle opener as a > bonus. How to freak out a girl on the 1st date, Number 58: Start undoing your pants, but tell her it's just because you need to open a beer. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ From: "Ash Munro" Subject: RE: Rear Projection Question Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:28:05 -0500 Message-ID: <008701c621c3$f3412530$6403a8c0 [at] charlottedt> In-reply-to: >Does anybody have a minimum lumens suggestion for rear projection? I = have no >experience in this kind of thing, so any advice would be greatly >appreciated. >Thanks, > >Tom Hackman Depends on the size of your screen and the ambient light. I've seen 1000 lumen projectors look terrific on a 6'x8' screen in a dark room, and = 10,000 lumens look pretty hideous on a 15'x20' with the mercury vapors on. Figuring you'll have a fairly tight control on ambient lighting and my = rough guess at the size limitations of a false proscenium, something in the 1000-2000 range should work fine. If your PPT is full of photos/artwork, = try for a DLP projector, as the colors will be truer. If it mostly text and = clip art, LCD will work fine, and is usually cheaper. =A0 Ash Munro Charlotte Division Manager A&V Company ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0601250738u1538879nf0a9ca4cd86ffd47 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:38:59 -0500 From: SS Subject: Re: Pyro License In-Reply-To: References:

>>>>>Remember all those Gas stations that we used to have on every corner (you know, the ones that cleaned your windows, checked your oil etc). They were all torn down to make way for CVS's and Walgreen's. Hmmm wonder what they will be torn down to make room for?<<<<< Starbucks. A new McHales would be nice though :) -SS TTS-EKU ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43D79CF0.5010900 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:44:48 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Rear Projection Question References:

Tom, I still have my Rosco "black" RP screen available. I got it from Limelight Productions and used it last semester for one show. I have three different pieces available that you might be interested in. As they say, evertyhing's negotiable. I can make you a fair deal just to get it out of here and try to recoup some of my original expenditure. Contact me off list if you are interested in talking. I know this doesn't answer your original query but surface has a lot to do with how little output you can get away with. We used a couple of LCD projectors that produced in the neighborhood of 2000 lumens for a production of Good Woman... a couple of years ago and they worked "OK" when the stage lighting was rather dim and there was not too much ambient light in the area of the screens. A 1500 lumen projector front projected on Rosco Twinwhite washed out pretty badly under "normal" stage lighting. More is better or at least easier to work with but you need to consider the whole stage lighting issue before you pick the projector. HTH Steve Rees Tom Hackman wrote: > We are looking at doing some projection for an upcoming production. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20060125103535.032a8a28 [at] postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:51:12 -0500 From: Ford Sellers Subject: Re: Rear Projection Question In-Reply-To: References:

Tom, This is a Vast, Open-ended question who's answer depends on a lot of factors. 1. What's your throw distance 2. How much will your projections be used over, or on, a lit stage 3. Is this something that you expect to use Frequently 4. Do you need a complete Blackout--If so, you'll need a shutter to go in front of the lens. 5. etc. 6. etc. I would think that you should get the brightest projector that you can afford. I have found that a minimum of 3500 lumens is acceptable for most of our uses. Sharp/Sanyo makes a good one. Expect that once your students, designers and directors see it, they'll want it in their show. So try to get the most versatile projector you can afford. Digital Keystone Correction is a nice and common feature. And make sure that you have money in the budget for a Spare lamp. At 10:07 AM 1/25/2006, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Oh wise and merciful Stagecraft List: >I am in search of some sage wisdom. >We are looking at doing some projection for an upcoming production. >Probably Powerpoint kind of stuff. Nothing too fancy. My preference would >be to use a rear projection screen to simplify making a non-rectangular, >non-white screen in my proscenium. (I am building a false proscenium >actually) I have been looking at buying some RP screen from Rosebrand. But >before I spend the money... >Does anybody have a minimum lumens suggestion for rear projection? I have >no experience in this kind of thing, so any advice would be greatly >appreciated. >Thanks, > >Tom Hackman >Technical Director >Davis & Elkins College >Elkins, WV ************************ Ford H Sellers Master Electrician Cornell University Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts 430 College Avenue Ithaca NY, 14850 (607) 254-2736 office (607) 254-2733 fax ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060125090757.00cf3ba0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:07:57 From: CB Subject: Re: Pyro License >They were >all torn down to make way for CVS's and Walgreen's. The new CVS in my nieghborhood replaced the 'Empress Theatre'. It was just what it sounds like, and the only totally nude one in town. It was actually a pretty place, and the guy that installed the sound system used to get Dj's telling him that it was the best sounding club in town (Shameless Plug, tm). Gas stations, pfah! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060125092350.00cf3ba0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:23:50 From: CB Subject: RE: Cutawl >(! (sorry) Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:28:39 -0500 From: "richard j. archer" Subject: Re: backlight material I built some back light displays a few years ago that used edge lit panels that came in from Korea through a California company. Thin but finicky..not cheap but looked good. My suggestion (of course this costs $$) take a look at electroluminescent http://www.electrivinyl.com Not cheap but not much more than commercial light boxes. Easy to use. Does curves. They've got overlay films you can print on your inkjet (if it's big enough). There was a big mural using the stuff at GW Bush airport in Houston....I don't know if it's still there. Anybody in Houston lately seen this? ( skyline of the city) Dick A TD, Cornell U ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060125083230.01f63ff0 [at] interstellar.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:35:50 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: It's happened again.... In-Reply-To: References: At 03:42 PM 1/24/2006, you wrote: >Now I know who to off all that cool theatre lighting stuff I stole on. >I think he's referring to the German audio company that ripped off American >company designs (and went so far as to duplicate the manufacturers info on >the printed circuit boards!) and sold them as their own, saving a bunch on >R&D. I'm reading an IEEE magazine from last summer mentioning Chinese copies. KFC (former Kentucky Fried Chicken) scouts went to evaluate a town for a new chicken place. They found a fully staffed, busy KFC...only the KFC company knew nothing about this location. Turns out EVERYTHING had been copied, uniforms, recipes, building, etc. -- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:38:48 -0500 From: Ken Romaine Subject: Re: Rear Projection Question In-Reply-To: References:

Tom: As my sig says, I work for Barco. I'll try to keep the commercials to a minimum. That said, in addition to the many things to consider that have already been mentioned, I'd like to add: Content - Is most of the content going to be light or dark? Denser, deeper colors will require more lumens to be seen, whereas a basic black-text-on-white-background (or the other way around) will need fewer. Fast-moving images or stills? DLP - Highly suggested. Better contrast and resolution. Even for text and clip art. Generally a faster setup, too. That said, they are generally more expensive than an LCD projector with similar specifications and features. Source signal type - Be sure the projector you select can handle the type of signals you're going to send it, and pay attention to the input resolutions accepted as well as the output (or "native") resolution of the projector. Having to convert signals and/or resolutions can be done (see Barco's ImagePro) but you need to plan for it. Projector mounting - Where can you put the projector? How will you put it there? Weight and size may become an issue. I assume you're looking to rent the projector. While Barco is a manufacturer of projectors, we don't rent them directly. We have rental partners who do. I'd be happy to try and answer other questions, or recommend a rental partner. Contact me at ken.romaine [at] barco.com. -- Ken Romaine Business Development Manager Barco Media & Entertainment The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how much I want to impose them on the rest of the world. On 1/25/06, Tom Hackman wrote: > > Oh wise and merciful Stagecraft List: > I am in search of some sage wisdom. > We are looking at doing some projection for an upcoming production. Proba= bly > Powerpoint kind of stuff. Nothing too fancy. My preference would be to us= e a > rear projection screen to simplify making a non-rectangular, non-white > screen in my proscenium. (I am building a false proscenium actually) I ha= ve > been looking at buying some RP screen from Rosebrand. But before I spend = the > money... > Does anybody have a minimum lumens suggestion for rear projection? I have= no > experience in this kind of thing, so any advice would be greatly > appreciated. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:37:36 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Rear Projection Question Reply-to: In-Reply-To: References: On 10:28:05 am 01/25/06 "Ash Munro" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see /> > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Does anybody have a minimum lumens suggestion for rear projection? > I have no > > experience in this kind of thing, so any advice would be greatly > > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > > Tom Hackman > > Depends on the size of your screen and the ambient light. I've seen > 1000 lumen projectors look terrific on a 6'x8' screen in a dark room, > and 10,000 lumens look pretty hideous on a 15'x20' with the mercury > vapors on. > Figuring you'll have a fairly tight control on ambient lighting and > my rough guess at the size limitations of a false proscenium, > something in the 1000-2000 range should work fine. If your PPT is > full of photos/artwork, try for a DLP projector, as the colors will > be truer. If it mostly text and clip art, LCD will work fine, and is > usually cheaper. > We just bought some ~2200 lumen projectors for about $600 each, so that may be an option, versus renting one for a hundred bucks or so per week. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060125170451.53250.qmail [at] web52208.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:04:51 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Marsland Subject: "tinyurl"ize In-Reply-To: > > Everyone who reads this go immediately to > > ( wrong side of the ditch). > Yep, even you. I'm going right now just to bask in > the glow. > Chris "Chris" Babbie The best part is the "tinyurl"ize link you can put on your toolbar or favorites list -- find a site you like and want to share; click on your tinyurl button of favorite and up pops the Tinyurl address for you! Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:29:51 -0500 Subject: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: >> Since this is plain text, I don't know if it will come through as a >> hyperlink, so you may need to cut and paste it in your browser. > > Everyone who reads this go immediately to > ( Subject: Longstar Logo and Brewery (was cutawl) Followup Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:49:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi folks, Thanks for all the replies, I really appreciate it. I will probably just send some artwork to Rosco and have them put it together. I've had really good luck with that as well. I do have to resolve the copyright issues first though. (Or go with a generic red star.) I've emailed the brewery and we'll see what they say. The notion of Gobo rather than barware is a design decision. I'm using gobos, mostly windows, for the background for each scene. I thought the Lone Star one would be a nice change visually. Actually my question was more in the lines of curiosity. The Cutawl thread got me thinking. I've done some really nice detail work witha Cutawl, but it's on a larger scale than a gobo. And it seems to me the awl-type baldes might be ideal. Ahh, well, another project in my free time. That means it'll wait until next year, unfortunately. Anyway, I'm not going to try etching one just yet; although I appreciate the directions. Unfortunately there's way too much to do here this semester, no time for play. :( Next time though. Again, thanks for all your thoughts! Jerry G. D. George Assistant Professor and Technical Director Capital University Theatre Department of Communications 1 College and Main Columbus, OH 43209 (614) 236-6498 ggeorge [at] capital.edu -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Barney Simon Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:41 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Longstar Logo and Brewery (was cutawl) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Rick Malone wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Lone Star is no longer brewed here in San Antonio. Does that mean the brewery and the hall of horns is gone? (no, I did not look at the website) -- Barney Simon JC Hansen Co., Inc Drapes Drops and Dance Floors 423 West 43rd Street, NYC 212-246-8055 F:212-246-8189 JCHansen.com 866-988-8055 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060125174930.43300.qmail [at] web81802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:49:30 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: Re: Rear Projection Question In-Reply-To: If you are looking for a new projector (and you are in the education world) you can pick one up at a discounted price with a grant from smarttech.com and NEC. Go to http://www.smarterkids.org/k12/nec/index.asp for more info. The grant is a percent off and can make some rather expensive projectors reasonable. We are getting a VT480 for $800ish and it list on NEC website for $1,495. Now if I can just get admin. to spring for the 6,000 lumen unit, a long throw lens, mounting hardware, and a few other odds and ends I could stop setting a projector on my stage. Dreams are nice... Ken Zinkl Auditorium Manager Fort Zumwalt South High School 636-281-0732 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:08:43 -0500 Subject: Re: backlight material From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I've seen "Backlit" dry erase boards at restaurants and such that work on "Edge lighting". take a look at: http://tinyurl.com/8s6mr I don't know, but I would think that a poster printed on transparency material might work on one of those. Alternatively, perhaps you could remove the black backing material and replace it with white. If a local cafe has one, maybe they'll let you take a look at it and se what you think. The website lists the price as $99, probably cheaper than the LCD material you were looking for. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <2ce.238d0c8.3109259a [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:03:54 EST Subject: Re: Pyro License In a message dated 25/01/06 03:36:40 GMT Standard Time, gwilliams [at] appstate.edu writes: > Hey Frank, I've got an idea for you, and I'm dead-on serious. Not ALL > the U.S. has no-smoking policies, and there are still smoking rooms > in hotels, etc. > > Why don't you come on over this summer and drive a chase vehicle for > the Long Reach Long Riders? You could team up with either the East or > West coast riders, departing either Philadelphia (Bill Sapsis' house, > actually), or San Diego (Loren Schreiber's domain). > > You'd see a lot of the country, and a whole lot of southwest South > Dakota, national monuments, etc. > > You'd pay your own way, as do we all, and you'd have a whole bunch of > us to debate with over liquid refreshment every night. > > Whatcha say? I like the idea, in principle. The problem is that I shall be in rural France, 80 miles from the nearest major airport, which is either Bordeaux or Toulouse, and 30 miles from a railway station. It's not like London, where I can get a bus and a tube straight to Heathrow. I'll look at possibilities. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <110.5a479323.31092883 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:16:19 EST Subject: Re: In a message dated 25/01/06 04:10:26 GMT Standard Time, gbierly [at] dejazzd.com writes: > I am trying to light a 11"x17" show > poster on an outside sandwich board from a battery lit source. I am > sure there are other great ideas also but I thought backlighting > would be kind of cool. How much depth is there? With care, a suitably curved diffuse reflector might work Something like half a parabola. Something like this used to be used in photographic work back in the days of gas lighting for big negatives in enlargers. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1fc.10f43f42.31092c1b [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:31:39 EST Subject: Re: In a message dated 25/01/06 07:23:48 GMT Standard Time, dale [at] cybercom.net writes: > The hard part is getting it perfectly even illumination > across the sheet. Laptop backs do that by varying the > thickness of the plastic sheet. The old ones come back. Back when I joined the BBC in the mid-sixties, I worked in a film recording unit, which recorded TV on film, VT being only just on the horizon. The technicalities requires a graded ND filter on the face of the display, which was done in just this way. They also required the camera shutter to open on line 35 of the picture, which let to the most precise and reliable servo-control I have ever seen. It worked, and when we shut it down, Technicolor bought three of the cameras for making separation negatives from VT. Thet's how precise it was. Frank Wood ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:45:59 -0500 > If you leave it off, and just put "www.yoursite.com", most will not > see > it as a link. (This is true even if it is a "tinyurl" address.) yoursite.com was clickable and turned up an online computer store. Ah I have become a true web surfer. Following totally useless links for the h*ll of it. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Rear Projection Question Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:46:13 -0500 > We just bought some ~2200 lumen projectors for about $600 each, > so that may be an option, versus renting one for a hundred bucks > or so per week. Wow! do tell. new/used? model? supplier? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:23:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: >> If you leave it off, and just put "www.yoursite.com", most will not >> see it as a link. (This is true even if it is a "tinyurl" address.) > > yoursite.com was clickable and turned up an online computer store. Indeed, it may work on SOME Email readers (As it obviously did on yours), but not as many as if you do as I suggested. > Ah I have become a true web surfer. Following totally useless links > for the h*ll of it. Welcome to the club! I'm Bruce and I'm a Surfaholic. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Subject: RE:OFF TOPIC- Stumble (was Hyperlinks) (was Cutawl) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:49:10 -0500 Message-ID: <7AE59BA9B8D15D4787EB1C7A2DB6DFBA300541 [at] jekyll-sbs.ollsi.local> From: "Abby Downing" If you REALLY want to surf, try adding "Stumble Upon" to your browser. It's an adder toolbar and it learns your preferences. You click "stumble" and it takes you to a random website (related to your preferences). Very addictive but has been pretty educational overall, in my opinion. Just don't blame me if you get addicted. =20 http://www.stumbleupon.com/ Abby -----Original Message----- From: Greg Bierly [mailto:gbierly [at] dejazzd.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:46 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) Ah I have become a true web surfer. Following totally useless links=20 for the h*ll of it. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:46:19 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9AD6 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > > Ah I have become a true web surfer. Following totally=20 > useless links=20 > > for the h*ll of it. >=20 > Welcome to the club! I'm Bruce and I'm a Surfaholic. Hi, Bruce, the name's Paul...nice to meet you! :) (No...I'm fine, really...just let me check the headlines on fark.com one more time, then I'll walk away...) ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:52:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3CF87682970858499CA56707FB1F092BCBF480 [at] wscc-s-003000.westshore.edu> From: "Davis, Thomas J" > Ah I have become a true web surfer. Following totally useless links > for the h*ll of it. Welcome to the club! I'm Bruce and I'm a Surfaholic. _________________________________________________________________ Who has time for surfing? I spend all my time reading this list and trying out all the suggestions. Now I need to learn all this tinyurl stuff, then learn motorcycle maintenance (Zen and otherwise). Oh, yeah, and find some Lone Star beer and take some law classes so I can pass the entertainment attorney certification exam..... And I only have an hour of work left to get all that done. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: question on design software (a looooonnngg question) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:59:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Michael Diederich" I apologize for tagging this onto this thread, but I am unable to send an original message; it keeps bouncing back. To answer the question of preference of CAD programs originally posted: Vectorworks/Spotlight.=20 My inquiry: For those of you that do use Vectorworks: I have been unable to print 1/2"=3D1'0" scale drawings without taping 8 1/2" x 11 pieces of paper together. I have finally got a deal going with our Engineering Department to use their large printer, but I have been trying to save this as a PDF to send to them. (Kinko's also prefers PDF as a format from what I was told) I am having no luck with this. Has anyone been able to save this as a PDF, or what do you use to save to ensure it prints in proper scale? I saved it as a .jpeg and opened it in a few different programs, but the quality seems to be less than desirable.=20 Thank you in advance, and sorry again!!=20 Mike Diederich MVCC Utica, NY ------------------------------ Message-ID: <25b2a3f5c7376cb06ba403176f05b4ac [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:58:37 -0500 From: Subject: Re: backlight material Reply-to: In-Reply-To: References: On 1:08:43 pm 01/25/06 Bruce Purdy wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see /> > --------------------------------------------------- > > I've seen "Backlit" dry erase boards at restaurants and such that > work on "Edge lighting". take a look at: > http://tinyurl.com/8s6mr > I don't know, but I would think that a poster printed on > transparency material might work on one of those. Alternatively, > perhaps you could remove the black backing material and replace it > with white. If a local cafe has one, maybe they'll let you take a > look at it and se what you think. The website lists the price as > $99, probably cheaper than the LCD material you were looking for. > > ANother thing that does away with all the tricky optics issues is if you can make a light box several inches deep behind the poster surface. Then just build a box, paint the inside flat white, and run lights all around the outside shining on the white paint. Think one of those x-ray viewer boxes in the doctor's office. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <737c37babece889c59625eb086e27ddd [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:05:51 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Rear Projection Question Reply-to: In-Reply-To: References:

On 2:46:13 pm 01/25/06 Greg Bierly wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see /> > --------------------------------------------------- > > > We just bought some ~2200 lumen projectors for about $600 each, > > so that may be an option, versus renting one for a hundred bucks > > or so per week. > > Wow! do tell. new/used? model? supplier? > New, don't know the model offhand, tosiba I think. We are a non-profit educational, so we worked through some discount program. I don't know the details, and I won't see the folks who do for a week or two. Video projectors in general are dropping in price and increasing in abilities all the time. You can nearly always find a better deal if you wait a couple months. --Dale ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: VW PDF Problem (was RE: question on design software (a looooonnngg question)) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:25:47 -0600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike - >Has anyone been >able to save this as a PDF,...? This is about the only way that I print from VW. I'm using Acrobat Distiller as a printer driver. I use a custom page size set to whatever size I need - typically, 34"x44". The PDFs then go to my vendors and plotting service. I've had no scaling problems - as long as the recipient prints the files [at] the "printed-for" size. Regards - C. Andrew Dunning Landru Design - Nashville, TN - cad [at] landrudesign.com www.landrudesign.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:25:56 -0600 From: Bill Peeler Subject: Re: VW PDF (was: question on design software) In-reply-to: Reply-to: BillPeeler [at] txstate.edu Message-id: <43D7ECE4.2050007 [at] txstate.edu> References: Michael Diederich wrote: > Has > anyone been able to save this as a PDF, or what do you use to save to > ensure it prints in proper scale? I saved it as a .jpeg and opened it in > a few different programs, but the quality seems to be less than > desirable. Mike, If you're on a PC, you might try CutePDF (www.cutepdf.com/). It's free and installs as a printer on your machine. I've used it several times to do what you're trying and have had very little trouble. Bill Peeler Texas State University ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7CA83E3B-FBF5-4173-A2D5-DE90280D8D48 [at] gmail.com> From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: question on design software (a looooonnngg question) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:32:31 -0600 On 25 Jan, 2006, at 14:59 , Michael Diederich wrote: > I have been unable to print 1/2"=1'0" scale drawings without taping 8 > 1/2" x 11 pieces of paper together. I have finally got a deal going > with > our Engineering Department to use their large printer, but I have been > trying to save this as a PDF to send to them. (Kinko's also prefers > PDF > as a format from what I was told) I am having no luck with this. Has > anyone been able to save this as a PDF, or what do you use to save to > ensure it prints in proper scale? I saved it as a .jpeg and opened > it in > a few different programs, but the quality seems to be less than > desirable. I lack a plotter as well, and print all of my plots at Kinkos or another printing service in town. The theatre I work at, though, has Adobe Acrobat, so I'm able to print PDFs via that, make custom page sizes [18X24, 24X36, or whatever] and send them to Kinkos. After I solved some weird font mapping issues, I've never had any problems with scale or anything else. It ends up looking like it did on my screen. I embed all the fonts in the drawing as a precaution, but that's about the only non-normal thing I do. I use Vectorworks on a PC to accomplish this, though I do all my drawing on a couple of Macs. If you happen to be running a Mac, you have to option to Print to PDF if one of you printers can do the larger size or custom sizes. I don't know if you're networked to the Engineering Dept.'s large format printer, but that's certainly an option. Of course, if you're networked to it, why not just print there? -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer atvanceld [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <3FB39AD8-BFC0-4F43-8FFA-0F0F459D6A73 [at] email.arizona.edu> Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:09:19 -0700 On Jan 25, 2006, at 1:52 PM, Davis, Thomas J wrote: > > Who has time for surfing? I spend all my time reading this list and > trying out all the suggestions. Now I need to learn all this tinyurl > stuff, then learn motorcycle maintenance (Zen and otherwise). Oh, > yeah, > and find some Lone Star beer and take some law classes so I can > pass the > entertainment attorney certification exam..... And I only have an > hour > of work left to get all that done. Be careful, or I'll find the virtual trebuchet address and post it... Mark-O Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:19:13 -0500 Subject: Re: VW PDF (was: question on design software) From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: >> Has >> anyone been able to save this as a PDF, or what do you use to save to >> ensure it prints in proper scale? I saved it as a .jpeg and opened it in >> a few different programs, but the quality seems to be less than >> desirable. > Mike, > > If you're on a PC, you might try CutePDF (www.cutepdf.com/). It's free > and installs as a printer on your machine. I've used it several times to > do what you're trying and have had very little trouble. Or if you are on a Mac running OS9, you could use PrintToPDF http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html That's what I use, and it serves me well. There are other Shareware and Freeware printer emulators that do the same thing depending on your platform and OS. Try GOOGLE ing "PDF shareware" to start. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:27:16 -0500 Subject: Re: Hyperlinks (was Cutawl) From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Be careful, or I'll find the virtual trebuchet address and post it... Oh, Do, Do, Please do! Never mind. I couldn't wait and Google already found it! ;-) Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <141.555e1393.3109653f [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:35:27 EST Subject: Re: VW PDF (was: question on design software) In a message dated 25/01/06 22:24:29 GMT Standard Time, bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com writes: > > If you're on a PC, you might try CutePDF (www.cutepdf.com/). It's free > > and installs as a printer on your machine. I've used it several times to > > do what you're trying and have had very little trouble. It might, just might, help to output in HPGL format. This is a very elementary format designed for talking to plotters, rather than printers. Large format printers are likely to be used for drawings, and may well be able to translate this. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1113.208.51.52.71.1138237268.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:01:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Molded "Y" two-fers From: "Bill Nelson" > I have a customer seeking a quantity of ready-made one-piece molded > "Two-fers" with parallel-blade "Edison" style connectors. I used to > buy them from Daniel Woodhead company, but I don't find them on their > woodhead.com website. Kindly suggest another source, please. They should be able to purchase them at any Home Depot, Home Base or any large hardware store. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <01d201c6221e$64d6f490$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Rhinoceri and tigers and bears... Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:15:34 -0800 Anyone got an inside track on, solid info about, or an informed opinion on a/the (or the/a) new translation of Ionesco's 'Rhinoceros?' Such as, 'who has a copy of the script for me...' Thanks! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002701c62222$b10c65d0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: VW PDF Problem (was RE: question on design software (a looooonnngg question)) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:46:21 -0800 >>Has anyone been >>able to save this as a PDF,...? > > This is about the only way that I print from VW. I'm using Acrobat > Distiller as a printer driver. I use a custom page size set to whatever > size I need - typically, 34"x44". For those that don't wish to pay for Distiller (or rather, for the full Adobe Acrobat suite), check out CutePDF. http://www.cutepdf.com/ There is a free version, and it works very well. I use it from Vectorworks all the time. I have never had a PDF created with it 'break' - that is, cause trouble for any printer/ plotter/ service bureau. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002d01c62222$ce07fbe0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: VW PDF (was: question on design software) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:47:10 -0800 > If you're on a PC, you might try CutePDF (www.cutepdf.com/). It's free and > installs as a printer on your machine. I've used it several times to do > what you're trying and have had very little trouble. Oops... someone beat me to it. Sorry for the bandwidth. That'll learn me.... - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <58f67b0f0601251944r7961145cka42b580ea459f0a7 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:44:57 -0600 From: Michael Powers Subject: AC Cable for sale Warning, semi commercial post! A couple of years ago (before I came to work here) we bought a 1,000 ft. spool of 3/16"-7x19, Black vinyl coated aircraft cable. The job it was purchased for fell through and it's just been sitting there.=20 We have pulled off 60' for miscellaneous things. If anyone wants it we'll let the 940' remaining go for $300, that's $.32 a foot, FOB our dock. -- Michael Michael Powers Director of Operations Central Lighting & Equipment 1720 Fuller Rd. Suite 150 West Des Moines Iowa 50265 515-277-4190 877-977-4190 Fax 515-277-2295 515-557-0178 cell michael [at] clelights.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "David Stock" Subject: RE: Rhinoceri and tigers and bears... Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:17:12 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Did Production Design for this show last year. We used the original script. It is a somewhat interetesting pc. to say the least. If you have a real problem finding a script... and you really shouldn't. nut if you do I can help you out. Thanks Dave -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Don Taco Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:16 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Rhinoceri and tigers and bears... For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Anyone got an inside track on, solid info about, or an informed opinion on a/the (or the/a) new translation of Ionesco's 'Rhinoceros?' Such as, 'who has a copy of the script for me...' Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 05:52:45 -0900 From: Paul Guncheon Subject: Re: Cutawl In-reply-to: Message-id: <9E92F639-7241-44F8-A7C0-38DFD7B7F0F6 [at] verizon.net> References: On Jan 24, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Stagecraft wrote: > I bought mine at a yard sale for $100. > > Steve Oh yeah? I bought mine at a local swap meet for $20.00. I talked the guy down from $25.00. Laters, Paul "I repaired the step unit" said Tom with a fixed stare. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060125213755.0hf288ow84ogkc00 [at] www.email.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:37:55 -0700 From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Cutawl References:

In-Reply-To: Quoting Paul Guncheon : > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > On Jan 24, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Stagecraft wrote: > >> I bought mine at a yard sale for $100. >> >> Steve > > Oh yeah? > > I bought mine at a local swap meet for $20.00. > > I talked the guy down from $25.00. > > Laters, > > Paul > > "I repaired the step unit" said Tom with a fixed stare. Oh yeah? I got mine at an aution for 5 US Dollars. The Duo Fast guns were 25 though... Poor guy whose shop it was. A retiring patternmaker. His Bridgport mill went for 500 USD WITH tooling. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music 520-621-7025 520-591-1803 Mobile ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060126044428.53355.qmail [at] web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:44:28 -0800 (PST) From: J Burch Subject: Re: Rhinoceri and tigers and bears... In-Reply-To: Greetings You can find a copy of Rhinoceros and other plays by Ionesco on half.com. Jean Burch --- Don Taco wrote: > Anyone got an inside track on, solid info about, > or an informed opinion on > a/the (or the/a) new translation of Ionesco's > 'Rhinoceros?' Such as, 'who > has a copy of the script for me...' Thanks! > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <01f401c62236$98230c90$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Rhinoceri and tigers and bears... Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:08:40 -0800 Yes, thanks, but all of those appear to be the 'old' translation, which I already have. Greetings > You can find a copy of Rhinoceros and other plays by > Ionesco on half.com. > > Jean Burch > > > --- Don Taco wrote: > >> Anyone got an inside track on, solid info about, >> or an informed opinion on >> a/the (or the/a) new translation of Ionesco's >> 'Rhinoceros?' Such as, 'who >> has a copy of the script for me...' Thanks! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <58f67b0f0601252144g483b67f8qa219a63704c2a106 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:44:40 -0600 From: Michael Powers Subject: Air lift casters (was Re: Casters) Jim Hyslop writes: << .......... I'm trying to convince our group to make a capital investment in a set of pneumatically operated casters. .......The casters are mounted on a built-in pneumatic piston. When you actuate the piston, it pushes the caster down, lifting the set piece off the stage ........ Release the pressure, and the set piece settles straight down exactly where it is. The big problem is the initial investment - something like $1500-$1800. ..... >> Jim, I've brought up this solution before and I'll bring it up again because it works so well and is quite inexpensive, $15 - $20 a unit. First though, a few quick notes on pneumatics to hold a wagon in place. There are three main ways to do it. 1. Raise/lower the platform off/on the casters, this includes extending a spike or rod to prevent rolling. 2. Extend/retract the caster to lift the platform to roll or lower it to the floor to anchor it. 3. Clamp or jam the caster to prevent rolling or swiveling. There are advantages and disadvantages to each. With #1 failure results in a wagon that rolls but will not lock. #2 gives you a wagon that is locked in place but will not roll. #3 can fail in either position or only able to steer in one direction or some casters lock and some don't regardless of whether you want the unit to roll or stop. That said, I have used these devices for over 15 years now and have never had a failure during a show. The only mechanical failures I have ever had were split diaphragms when I tried to use Neoprene instead of gum rubber for the diaphragm. However, I do admit to installing a redundant system in units that absolutely, positively "MUST" move for the show to go on. Yes, that means twice the casters, hoses air tanks etc. but I could relax at home at night and not worry about a call from the theatre to rescue the show. #1 has a larger gap between the wagon frame and the floor in the playing or "show" position than when rolling. #2 has no floor gap in the playing position. #3 the gap is constant. All require on-board air tanks, all require actuating valves. Methods #1 & #2 can result in a bit of sway or 'movement" as the scenic unit raises or lowers, depending on the air pressure used, the number and location of the lift units and the weight distribution on the wagon. The method I have used successfully for many years is the diaphragm caster lift invented by Greg Bell. The lift units are shop built and cost about $15 - $20 each. The cost of the caster and the air system components are extra but roughly the same for all three methods. =20 The units are very low profile, only about 1" more than the height of the caster when mounted. The working pressure is 10psi in the devices. The device is constructed of Sched 80 PVC pipe, 1/2" PVC plate, 1/16" pure gum rubber sheet, a bit of cutting and machining, a few air fittings and PRESTO!!! You have a pneumatic actuator. Some of you may recall that PVC is no longer code for compressed air systems unless encapsulated, and that I was one who strongly advised against the use PVC for air tanks etc. The reasons for that are that PVC when it fails, tends to shard and create shrapnel when failure happens in a compressed air system. However, the reported failures involved extreme pressures beyond the PVC pressure rating, exposures to sub freezing temperatures and other various causes. The manufacturing method of these units, under the best of conditions, results in massive air leaks at pressures above 60 psi. Schedule 80 PVC has a pressure rating of 400psi and the 10psi operating pressure of the lift unit is so far within that range that a pressure failure is virtually impossible. I have used the lifts to move loads as high as 11,000 pounds and as light as 20 pounds. Jim, if you are interested, I'll send you the info. Everyone else, give me a chance to post it.I have been meaning for some time to post the text and drawings on Scott's web site, maybe now is the time to do it. -- Michael Michael Powers Director of Operations Central Lighting & Equipment 1720 Fuller Rd. Suite 150 West Des Moines Iowa 50265 515-277-4190 877-977-4190 Fax 515-277-2295 515-557-0178 cell michael [at] clelights.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <96c90e340601260109w7a4c0835we726b17aa931224 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 01:09:39 -0800 From: David d'Anjou Subject: Re: Zero-throw Casters In-Reply-To: References:

Now to muddy the waters yet further - I think of triple swivel casters as being made with each of the three being a DOUBLE caster - how many swivels does THAT make? And more to the point - who else builds them like that and in general how do you feel about double casters? D On 10/6/05, Curtis L. Mortimore wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Steve, > > I apologize for my egregious over-sight in describing a "triple swivel" a= s a > "zero throw" and defer to your obviously superior knowledge of caster > terminology. > > Now for the return fire... Is it really a triple swivel? Let's see, three > swivel casters and a center pivot makes four... Oh, and the wheels rotate > around axles as well so that adds three more... Triple, quad, quint... > What's the word for seven? Can we get away with calling them septuple > swivels? > > Ducking, running, and changing my identity. > > -- > Curtis L. Mortimore > Technical Director > Ball State University > Department of Theatre and Dance > Muncie, IN 47306 > 765-285-8750 > > > > From: "Waxler, Steve $waxlers$" > > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:44:50 -0400 > > To: "Stagecraft" > > Subject: Re: Zero-throw Casters > > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > I almost hesitate (almost) to jump in and mention that there is a > > difference between "zero throw casters" and "triple swivels". A zero > > throw caster would not have "incentive" to change direction when pushed > > to the side. It is the throw of the caster that causes it to swivel > > when a force to the side is initiated. And so it starts!!! > > > > Steve Waxler > > Technical Director > > College Conservatory of Music > > University of Cincinnati > > waxlers [at] uc.edu > > http://www.ccm.uc.edu/tdp/ > > 513 556-3709 > > > > > > > > > > -- David d'Anjou Cirque du Soleil Mirage 2006 project ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #668 *****************************