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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 27297322; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 03:03:49 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #678 Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 03:01:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, SARE_URI_REPLICA,TW_JR autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #678 1. Re: Station Fire by "RD" 2. sizing drops by "LES LIND" 3. Re: Mic stand recommendations... by "G. D. George" 4. Re: sizing drops by "Travis Whitaker" 5. Re: sizing drops by John McKernon 6. Re: sizing drops by Kevin Lee Allen 7. Re: sizing drops by Delbert Hall 8. Re: Tech Riders by Cosmo Catalano 9. Re: sizing drops by John McKernon 10. Re: sizing drops by "LES LIND" 11. Re: sizing drops by Steve Larson 12. Re: sizing drops by "Peter Scheu" 13. Re: tech rider by Jerry Durand 14. Re: sizing drops by "Peter Scheu" 15. Re: sizing drops by "Stephen E. Rees" 16. Re: sizing drops by John McKernon 17. New ETCP Rigging Exams by "Peter Scheu" 18. Re: sizing drops by "Peter Scheu" 19. Re: sizing drops by "Jon Ares" 20. Re: sizing drops by "LES LIND" 21. knots by Paul Marsland 22. Bogus by IAEG [at] aol.com 23. Re: sizing drops by Kevin Lee Allen 24. Re: New ETCP Rigging Exams by Bill Sapsis 25. Re: sizing drops by "Stephen E. Rees" 26. Re: sizing drops by "LES LIND" 27. Re: sizing drops & bogus paper by "Peter Scheu" 28. Re: Bogus by "Peter Scheu" 29. charring lamp sockets by Byron Lovelace 30. Re: Bogus by Jerry Durand 31. Re: Why we go Nut-Crackers by Noemi Ybarra 32. Re: Bogus by "Peter Scheu" 33. Re: Article: lighting life outside of theater by Noemi Ybarra 34. Re: knots by "Frank E. Merrill" 35. Starter Rife by Chris Wych 36. Re: sizing drops by Kevin Holly 37. redirect of attention by b Ricie 38. Re: charring lamp sockets by Stephen Litterst 39. Re: charring lamp sockets by "JUSTIN DAVID BENNETT" 40. Re: Starter Rife by "G. D. George" 41. Re: Starter Rife by "G. D. George" 42. Re: knots by Delbert Hall 43. Re: charring lamp sockets by "Matthew Breton" 44. Re: side lighting by CB 45. Re: Starter Rife by "Stephen E. Rees" 46. Re: Job titles by CB 47. Re: side lighting by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 48. Re: redirect of attention by CB 49. Re: tech rider by CB 50. Re: side lighting by CB 51. Re: Starter Rife by "Paul Schreiner" 52. Re: redirect of attention by "G. D. George" 53. Re: Mic stand recommendations... by CB 54. lack of documentation by Jerry Durand 55. Re: tech riders by Mick Alderson 56. Re: tech riders by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 57. Re: Tech Riders by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 58. Re: tech riders by "Paul Schreiner" 59. Re: knots by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 60. Re: sizing drops by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 61. Re: sizing drops by Kevin Lowry 62. Re: knots by Delbert Hall 63. Re: charring lamp sockets by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 64. Re: charring lamp sockets by "Steven Haworth" 65. Re: sizing drops by MissWisc [at] aol.com 66. Re: sizing drops - ARGO info by MissWisc [at] aol.com 67. Re: Starter Rife by Chris Wych 68. Re: redirect of attention by MissWisc [at] aol.com 69. Re: sizing drops - ARGO info by "Flowers, Curt" 70. Re: sizing drops - ARGO info by "Stephen E. Rees" 71. Re: sizing drops by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 72. Re: sizing drops - ARGO info by MissWisc [at] aol.com 73. Re: redirect of attention by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 74. Re: sizing drops - ARGO info by Jerry Durand 75. Re: redirect of attention by Stephen Litterst 76. Re: sizing drops - ARGO info by "Stephen E. Rees" 77. Re: redirect of attention by MissWisc [at] aol.com 78. Re: redirect of attention by rwhitco [at] comcast.net 79. Re: charring lamp sockets by Dale Farmer 80. Re: charring lamp sockets by "Curtis L. Mortimore" 81. Re: redirect of attention by Jim Hyslop 82. Re: redirect of attention by rwhitco [at] comcast.net 83. Re: sizing drops - ARGO info by John McKernon 84. Volunteers needed in NYC (non New Yawkers ignore) by Herrick Goldman *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: From: "RD" Cc: bill [at] bcaworld.com ('Bill Conner') Subject: RE: Station Fire Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:28:45 -0700 Message-ID: <00b601c62861$2d757910$6400a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: We have been meeting regularly with some ex. Officials from NYC and environs, and some Fire Marshal types .... and more is to come. In fact I just met today with one of the inspectors I worked with on the Blue Angel and Puerto Rican Night club fires in NYC .... incredible what people will allow for a pocket full of change. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Conner Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:02 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Station Fire For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Jennie Gorrel brought to my attention that the manage for the Great White plead guilty to 100 counts of misdemeanor manslaughter, and avoided a trial on 100 felony manslaughter charges. The owners still await trial. http://www.crowdsafe.com/new.asp?ID=1662 has a nice article on this. A strong lesson to think hard before flipping any switch or lever in this or any business. Bill C. ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 07:30:16 -0500 From: "LES LIND" Subject: sizing drops Morning List, We just bought 2 muslin drops and want to size them. The art teacher asked what we should use and I suggested diluted white glue. What is the glue/water ratio? I also suggested odd leftovers of latex paint but she said that the drop already gets too heavy with paint after a couple of shows and would rather not start with paint. Any other suggestions on what to use? Thanks Les Les Lind Northeastern High School Manchester, PA ------------------------------ From: "G. D. George" Subject: RE: Mic stand recommendations... Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 07:48:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You mean I shouldn't be taping the cable to the stand with duct tape or masking tape? Jerry G. D. George Assistant Professor and Technical Director Capital University Theatre Department of Communications 1 College and Main Columbus, OH 43209 (614) 236-6498 ggeorge [at] capital.edu -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:52 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Mic stand recommendations... For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > The only complaint I have >with the boom arm attachment is that the little clip that helps tidy up >the mic cable tends to get lost very easily. ?!? That little slip is part of the shipping materials. Take it of and throw it away with the peanuts. ; > Don't make me make another video! Seriously, though, I can't remember using those. Ever. Hang your mic where you need it, connect the cable, and wrap it by grabbing the cable a boom's length (however long your boom is) away from the mic, and passing that twice around the 'hinge' of the mic and the boom. This'll put two wraps on the stand and two on the boom. Make it three if you're anal or the boom is really long. On the out, remove the two wraps and disconnect the mic and your done. 'Stoo easy! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: 3 Feb 2006 12:48:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20060203124846.8732.qmail [at] mail15.cybercon.com> From: "Travis Whitaker" Subject: Re: sizing drops References: <> In-Reply-To: <> We just built 12 flats, we used wall size / wallpaper paste to size the muslin and then used Roscoflamex for FR. Travis ------------- Original message follows ------------- For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Morning List, We just bought 2 muslin drops and want to size them. The art teacher asked what we should use and I suggested diluted white glue. What is the glue/water ratio? I also suggested odd leftovers of latex paint but she said that the drop already gets too heavy with paint after a couple of shows and would rather not start with paint. Any other suggestions on what to use? Thanks Les Les Lind Northeastern High School Manchester, PA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 07:50:37 -0500 Subject: Re: sizing drops From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > We just bought 2 muslin drops and want to size them. The art teacher > asked what we should use and I suggested diluted white glue. What is the > glue/water ratio? I also suggested odd leftovers of latex paint but she > said that the drop already gets too heavy with paint after a couple of > shows and would rather not start with paint. Any other suggestions on > what to use? Argo Laundry Starch, it gives you a beautiful surface to paint on. The Lynn Pecktal book has complete directions and it's pretty easy to do. - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:00:50 -0500 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: sizing drops In-reply-to: Message-id: References:

this is absolutely the best answer. As with most things less is more. =20= It does not take a lot of starch in the solution and the drop does =20 not need to be drenched. On Feb 3, 2006, at 7:50 AM, John McKernon wrote: > Argo Laundry Starch, it gives you a beautiful surface to paint on. =20 > The Lynn > Pecktal book has complete directions and it's pretty easy to do. ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com =F0 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:07:12 -0500 From: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: sizing drops In-Reply-To: References:

I agree. -Delbert > > Argo Laundry Starch, it gives you a beautiful surface to paint on. The Ly= nn > Pecktal book has complete directions and it's pretty easy to do. > > - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:07:58 -0500 From: Cosmo Catalano Subject: RE: Tech Riders In-reply-to: Message-id: <94e89ee5a625072251141032c4717a1f [at] williams.edu> References: Careful now. According to Darwin, the few idiots that do survive will live to breed better idiots. Cosmo On Feb 3, 2006, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote: > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> Idiot proofing gear is impossible. I shouldn't even try. The more >> idiots >> who >> kill themselves, the safer the world will be. > > I'd like to propose this be added to the Stagecraft List Mission > statement. > > Steve L. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:22:44 -0500 Subject: Re: sizing drops From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > this is absolutely the best answer. As with most things less is more. > It does not take a lot of starch in the solution and the drop does > not need to be drenched. The ultimate goal is to for the starch to sit largely on top of the drop, not push it into the fibers so much, hence the use of lightly-dragged push brooms instead of brushes. - John ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:46:59 -0500 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: sizing drops I don't have the Lynn Pecktal book. Can someone forward the directions for this process? I'm not even sure I can get this Argo stuff around here. I don't spend much time in the laundry isle. How about a light spray with a Hudson sprayer? Les Lind Northeastern High School Manchester, PA >>> stagecraft2006 [at] mckernon.com 2/3/06 8:22 AM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > this is absolutely the best answer. As with most things less is more. > It does not take a lot of starch in the solution and the drop does > not need to be drenched. The ultimate goal is to for the starch to sit largely on top of the drop, not push it into the fibers so much, hence the use of lightly-dragged push brooms instead of brushes. - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:57:11 -0500 Subject: Re: sizing drops From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Pecktal's books should be a part of everyone's library. Stev > From: "LES LIND" > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:46:59 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: sizing drops > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I don't have the Lynn Pecktal book. Can someone forward the directions > for this process? I'm not even sure I can get this Argo stuff around > here. I don't spend much time in the laundry isle. How about a light > spray with a Hudson sprayer? > > > > Les Lind > Northeastern High School > Manchester, PA > > > >>>> stagecraft2006 [at] mckernon.com 2/3/06 8:22 AM >>> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > >> this is absolutely the best answer. As with most things less is > more. >> It does not take a lot of starch in the solution and the drop does >> not need to be drenched. > > The ultimate goal is to for the starch to sit largely on top of the > drop, > not push it into the fibers so much, hence the use of lightly-dragged > push > brooms instead of brushes. > > - John > > ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Subject: RE: sizing drops Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:59:51 -0500 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: In-reply-to: >The ultimate goal is to for the starch to sit largely on top >of the drop, not push it into the fibers so much, hence the >use of lightly-dragged push brooms instead of brushes. We applied the starch solution lightly with a Hudson sprayer, with someone following behind with the largest brush we had on the end of a bamboo stick with criss-crossing strokes "gently" spreading the starch evenly. Assuming you are sizing/painting the drop on the floor, remember to put something like visqueen under the drop or it will stick to the floor like a postage stamp. Peter Scheu Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. www.scheuconsulting.com Tel: 315.422.9984 fax: 413.513.4966 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060202072029.01ffbc40 [at] interstellar.com> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 07:21:13 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: tech rider In-Reply-To: References:

At 02:14 AM 2/2/2006, you wrote: >I have never run across any problems, but >there may have been swapped neutral/ground connections and I would not >have detected them. There's also all the panels where the installer didn't know/forgot to remove the shorting strap. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Subject: RE: sizing drops Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:12:44 -0500 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: In-reply-to: Recipe per Peckal's book (my well used, but now dusty, 1st edition): 1 lb Argo laundry starch dissolved in 1/2 gal of cold water Slowly pour mixture into 3 gal of BOILING water, stirring constantly Allow to cool before using. 14 Gals of sizing will cover a 28'H x 48'W drop YMMV BTW - our shop was in an old elementary school and we painted on top of the wood cafetorium floor. That's why we had to put something under the drop to keep it from sticking. Didn't do it the first time and a crew of 4 painters spent the better part of a day wetting and peeling. Ugh! Peter Scheu Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. www.scheuconsulting.com Tel: 315.422.9984 fax: 413.513.4966 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43E36655.9080805 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:19:01 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: sizing drops References: <> We typically will make size using yellow carpenters glue in a 4:1 water/glue ratio. On flats, we do the field first, allow it to almost dry and shrink, and then do the glued edges of the frame. This keeps the doped edges from softening and pulling free. This is not a problem with drops however. Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia > Morning List, > We just bought 2 muslin drops and want to size them. [snip] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:07:42 -0500 Subject: Re: sizing drops From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Recipe per Peckal's book (my well used, but now dusty, 1st edition): > > 1 lb Argo laundry starch dissolved in 1/2 gal of cold water > Slowly pour mixture into 3 gal of BOILING water, stirring constantly > Allow to cool before using. > > 14 Gals of sizing will cover a 28'H x 48'W drop Yep! You should also add a tiny bit of analine dye to it, so that you can see where you're spreading it on the drop. Not enough to make problems when you start painting, but just a tint of pink or blue will help. And do be sure to dissolve the starch in COLD water, then add it to the boiling water. And be sure the water is at a rolling boil, not just simmering. The basic procedure to apply the starch is you get two people, one with a hudson sprayer and the other with a large shop push broom. Be sure the broom is fairly clean, if nothing else, shake it out thoroghly to make sure it doesn't have any loose gunk in it. The person with the hudson starts spraying across the top of the drop, wetting a band about 3' wide. Once they've done one band across the drop, the person with the push broom *drags* it *lightly* across the wet surface to spread out the starch horizontally. Don't drag up and down the drop, just across, and don't push the broom (despite its name). Try to avoid pressing the starch into the surface, just smooth it out, and avoiding overworking it. Wet the muslin, but don't soak it. If need be, you can apply a bit more starch in the dry spots and then brush it lightly. I shouldn't have to say it, but I will: Keep the band narrow so that the person with the broom doesn't have to walk in the wet part. Repeat this in bands across the drop, overlapping them a bit. Work very quickly. A good sized drop doesn't usually take more than maybe 20-30 minutes to starch. The best thing to put under the drop is bogus paper, which absorbs moisture nicely. If that's not available, then brown paper will do. Just be careful you don't soak the drop, or the paper will indeed stick to the back of the drop. I don't recommend putting plastic under the drop, as that tends to cause puddles to form which can turn into little rivers going all kinds of unexpected places (like under the drop where you haven't sprayed yet but are about to walk). The finished result is a beautifully smooth tight surface for paint. Very easy to do, and worth the effort. BTW, we always found Argo starch at our local hispanic deli. Good luck! - John ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Subject: New ETCP Rigging Exams Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:16:21 -0500 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: In-reply-to: (insert news-ticker sounds here...) This just in from the ETCP Council: -------------------------------------------------------- The Entertainment Technician Certification Program (ETCP) Council = announces the ETCP Rigging Examinations will be available at computer centers = around the United States and in Canada beginning March 15, 2006. All interested riggers are invited to apply today. =20 Don't delay getting your certification! Many employers are now looking = for ETCP Certified Riggers and have stated they may require certification in = the future. =20 The sooner your application is submitted, the sooner you can take the = test to become ETCP Certified. Candidate information is available at http://etcp.esta.org/candidateinfo/riggingexams.html or call = 212-244-1505 or email kgeraghty [at] esta.org for more information. =20 The ETCP Council members include AMPTP, CITT, CCE, ESTA, IAAM, IATSE, InfoComm, The League, PRG, TEA, and USITT. -------------------------------------------------------- If I remember correctly, the "computer centers" may include H&R Block offices, but don't quote me. Contact ETCP for full info. Good luck! Peter Scheu Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. www.scheuconsulting.com Tel: 315.422.9984 fax: 413.513.4966 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Subject: RE: sizing drops Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:25:00 -0500 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: In-reply-to: John McKernon wrote: >The best thing to put under the drop is bogus paper, which >absorbs moisture nicely. If that's not available, then brown >paper will do. Just be careful you don't soak the drop, or the >paper will indeed stick to the back of the drop. > >I don't recommend putting plastic under the drop, as that >tends to cause puddles to form which can turn into little >rivers going all kinds of unexpected places (like under the >drop where you haven't sprayed yet but are about to walk). I agree, in part. We only had the plastic under the drop when we sized it, and used a large, old furnace blower fan (scavenged from the old school) to blow air under the drop similar to the photo in Pecktal's book. After the sized drop dried, we re-laid it on top of bogus paper for painting. When them trimmed the drop to it's final size. Probably overly cautious, I suppose, but we were deathly afraid of repeating our previous goof. We went through rolls and rolls of bogus paper because we were fortunate to be right up the road from the Marcellus Paper Company who manufactured it, and it was dirt cheap. Peter Scheu Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. www.scheuconsulting.com Tel: 315.422.9984 fax: 413.513.4966 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <007f01c628d8$014b5900$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: sizing drops Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 07:39:22 -0800 >> Any other suggestions on >> what to use? > > Argo Laundry Starch, it gives you a beautiful surface to paint on. The > Lynn > Pecktal book has complete directions and it's pretty easy to do. > > - John I concur - IF you can find the Argo (not the spray-stuff), it makes a wonderful surface, and no heaviness, and the drop will still be foldable after a couple of repaintings. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:39:26 -0500 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: sizing drops Thanks to all for the information. I forwarded it to the art teacher. I did some prelim. phone calls to grocery, fabric and craft stores and haven't found the Argo yet. But she will look around over the weekend. Thanks again, I love this list. Les Les Lind Northeastern High School Manchester, PA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060203154712.50667.qmail [at] web52204.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 07:47:12 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Marsland Subject: knots So is an "icicle hitch" the same as what I have always called a log hitch; a half hitch on top and a clove hitch a few feet down? For the knot fans on the list, dig this website! http://tinyurl.com/9sq62 Paul > > Or you could tie an Icicle hitch or similar knot > to > > the top of the boom pipe to safety to the grid. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <146.5517d5ef.3114d524 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:47:48 EST Subject: Bogus In a message dated 2/3/06 10:26:05 AM, peter [at] scheuconsulting.com writes: << We went through rolls and rolls of bogus paper because we were fortunate to be right up the road from the Marcellus Paper Company who manufactured it, and it was dirt cheap. >> Maybe this has been covered and I missed it, , but where / why did it get the name BOGUS PAPER ? I have often wondered this, , anyone have the origination / derivation of that name? very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:49:14 -0500 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: sizing drops In-reply-to: Message-id: References: it is also sometimes in the baking aisle, used as a thickener for a =20 Roux. On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:39 AM, LES LIND wrote: > did some prelim. phone calls to grocery, fabric and craft stores and > haven't found the Argo ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com =F0 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:50:44 -0500 Subject: Re: New ETCP Rigging Exams From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Yes, it is H & R Block. But, as Peter said, please check with the ETCP. Thanks Bill www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 2/3/06 10:16 AM, "Peter Scheu" wrote: > If I remember correctly, the "computer centers" may include H&R Block > offices, but don't quote me. Contact ETCP for full info. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43E37C86.9090405 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:53:42 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: sizing drops References: Peter, Thanks for the tip on the Martisco Paper Co. Have been looking for just such a source. This is why I love this list. Steve Rees Peter Scheu wrote: > We went through rolls and rolls of bogus paper because we were fortunate to > be right up the road from the Marcellus Paper Company who manufactured it, > and it was dirt cheap. > > Peter Scheu ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:47:30 -0500 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: sizing drops Thanks, I'll look there too... >>> klad [at] klad.com 2/3/06 10:49 AM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- it is also sometimes in the baking aisle, used as a thickener for a =20 Roux. On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:39 AM, LES LIND wrote: > did some prelim. phone calls to grocery, fabric and craft stores and > haven't found the Argo ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com=20 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com=20 =F0 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Cc: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: RE: sizing drops & bogus paper Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:58:58 -0500 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: In-reply-to: Oops, you're right... It's the Martisco Paper Company located in Marcellus, NY. About 10-15 miles SW of Syracuse. The Martisco Paper Co., Inc. 4747 Route 174, P.O. Box 198 Marcellus, New York 13108-0198 Telephone: (315) 673-2071 Fax: (315) 673-4963 Email: info [at] martisco.com Peter Scheu Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. www.scheuconsulting.com Tel: 315.422.9984 fax: 413.513.4966 >-----Original Message----- >From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf >Of Stephen E. Rees >Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:54 AM >To: Stagecraft >Subject: Re: sizing drops > > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > >--------------------------------------------------- > >Peter, >Thanks for the tip on the Martisco Paper Co. Have been looking >for just >such a source. This is why I love this list. >Steve Rees > >Peter Scheu wrote: > >> We went through rolls and rolls of bogus paper because we were >> fortunate to be right up the road from the Marcellus Paper >Company who >> manufactured it, and it was dirt cheap. >> >> Peter Scheu > ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Subject: RE: Bogus Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:02:41 -0500 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: In-reply-to: >Maybe this has been covered and I missed it, , but where / >why did it get >the name BOGUS PAPER ? Don't rightly know, but just about everything else you'd ever want to know is here: http://www.martisco.com/bogus.htm Peter Scheu Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. www.scheuconsulting.com Tel: 315.422.9984 fax: 413.513.4966 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:58:52 -0600 Subject: charring lamp sockets From: Byron Lovelace In-Reply-To: Message-Id: I have a problem with two pin lamp sockets charring so bad they won't pass current and render the fixture useless until repaired. I'm talking about lecos that take EHGs, and S4s and S4jrs that use HPLs. Is this common? Is there a remedy? Are there prevention measures? Byron Lovelace Technical Director / Facilities Manager Cultural Activities Center Temple, Texas lovelace [at] hot.rr.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <9EAE2881-F1BA-4252-93E7-BC2F4444C5BF [at] interstellar.com> From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Bogus Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:08:02 -0800 On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:02 AM, Peter Scheu wrote: > Don't rightly know, but just about everything else you'd ever want > to know > is here: > > http://www.martisco.com/bogus.htm > Nice to see the recycle information. I notice they will be adding new capabilities soon, before fall 1998! And I thought I was bad on keeping our site updated. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43E3820E.91A11137 [at] jonesphillips.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:17:18 -0500 From: Noemi Ybarra Subject: Re: Why we go Nut-Crackers References:

productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org wrote: > tradition of singing along,> > > There's words? Are they published somewhere or did they make them up? No words...unless you consider "da-da-da Da DUH" words. > The crew I get in Columbia, MO has been doing Nutcracker with me for 8 > years. Every year at the Sugar Plum part the fly rail does a virtual > orchestra. They even take different parts! I get a kick out of hearing over > the headset the arguments over who's going to be playing what instrument. Oh fun! Noemi -- Jones & Phillips Associates, Inc. http://www.jonesphillips.com 301 North 5th Street Lafayette, Indiana 47901 765-423-1123 (Voice) 765-742-4013 (Fax) ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Subject: RE: Bogus Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:21:43 -0500 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: In-reply-to: >Nice to see the recycle information. I notice they will be adding >new capabilities soon, before fall 1998! And I thought I was bad on >keeping our site updated. Oh, give 'em a break. They just got rid of their water wheel... Peter Scheu Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. www.scheuconsulting.com Tel: 315.422.9984 fax: 413.513.4966 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43E3875B.1C7A9724 [at] jonesphillips.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:39:55 -0500 From: Noemi Ybarra Subject: Re: Article: lighting life outside of theater References: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > > Scott writes: > > "My work is to focus on what the educational community is doing to train > > those who decide stage "design" is not their thing." > > Interesting. There are many areas of lighting design: architectural, trade > shows, concerts, and theatre. The principles behind each and every one of these > are the same, as are the properties of the luminaires. When you come out of a > course, you should know both. That is what schools are for. What use you make > of what you have learnt is up to you. Principles and properties we get from higher education. What I don't think was covered, and rarely mentioned, was what other jobs were OUT there in the lighting field. It may be a sign of immature youth or just that intense focus on Theatre, but the first time I was even aware that I could work in a related field was when a lighting rep came to visit and asked if I wanted a job! I didn't take that one, but eventually ended up working for a consultant almost accidentally. I still do freelance theatrical/dance lighting as well. And I love it here. Noemi -- Jones & Phillips Associates, Inc. http://www.jonesphillips.com 301 North 5th Street Lafayette, Indiana 47901 765-423-1123 (Voice) 765-742-4013 (Fax) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:52:41 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <466175696.20060203115241 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Re: knots In-Reply-To: References: Howdy ! Friday, February 3, 2006, Paul Marsland wrote: > So is an "icicle hitch" the same as what I have always called a log > hitch; a half hitch on top and a clove hitch a few feet down? PoTAYto..PoTAHto... I'd never heard it as an icicle OR a log hitch, but as a PIPE hitch. Sure works though, whaever the name. I use it most often to lift or lower scaffold crossbraces when the tower is too high to throw them like a javelin... JUST KIDDING, Doom... Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.60 mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060203165425.61067.qmail [at] web34711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:54:25 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Wych Subject: Starter Rife I need some suggestions on companys to contact about buying a Rifle for a production of "Our Counrty's Good". The show takes place in Sidney, Australia during 1788. The rifle needs to be fired and we're looking for a starting rifle first before looking at a rifle that will fire blanks. Either one will do. The theatre is also looking at buying it so they have it in stock instead of renting again and again. Suggestion on companys to contact? Thanks for the help, Chris Wych Chris Wych Indiana University Scenic Graduate Student a_small_idiot [at] yahoo.com ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ http://www.theatretechie.com ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:54:36 -0600 From: Kevin Holly Subject: Re: sizing drops Can anyone point out any differnces in sizing a drop vs. sizing a ground cloth. We did a large ground cloth several years ago that we sized and painted but never really seemed get stiff enough for dancing on--always seemed kind of loose and movable. Any ground cloth sizing tips out thetre? Thank you, Kevin Holly Technical Director Libertyville High School > > We just bought 2 muslin drops and want to size them. The art teacher >> asked what we should use and I suggested diluted white glue. What is the >> glue/water ratio? I also suggested odd leftovers of latex paint but she >> said that the drop already gets too heavy with paint after a couple of >> shows and would rather not start with paint. Any other suggestions on >> what to use? > >Argo Laundry Starch, it gives you a beautiful surface to paint on. The Lynn >Pecktal book has complete directions and it's pretty easy to do. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060203165551.49743.qmail [at] web50613.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:55:50 -0800 (PST) From: b Ricie Subject: redirect of attention In-Reply-To: >> > Whatever happened to separation of church and state? > > >>That disappeared about 6 years ago. Perhaps the >>new conservative >>Supreme >>Court will go ahead and remove that pesky law.<< Over the time I have been reading this list I have learned to sip my coffee between posts. By doing so, I no longer have to clean said coffee off my computer. Jon, thanks for the laugh! Brian Rice 508-685-0716 b_ricie [at] yahoo.com "Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the light." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:06:57 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: charring lamp sockets In-reply-to: Message-id: <43E38DB1.2040804 [at] ithaca.edu> References: Byron Lovelace wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have a problem with two pin lamp sockets charring so bad they won't > pass current and render the fixture useless until repaired. I'm > talking about lecos that take EHGs, and S4s and S4jrs that use HPLs. > Is this common? Is there a remedy? Are there prevention measures? > It is common in the lekos that take EHGs. Especially if they had been overlamped at some point in their lifespan. The remedy is to replace the socket. We have been using the C3A socket from Production Advantage and have had no problems or failures in those in the time we've been using them. I've never had a problem with S4s. If this is a widespread issue in all your units with bi-pin sockets, maybe the lamps aren't being seated fully? This would give you a poor connection which could cause arcing and pitting of the socket. Another possibility is your lamp brand. Some brands are just barely within the tolerances for the ANSI spec, which means they may be a bit smaller than the socket is designed to hold. Changing to a new brand might help. Steve L. ------------------------------ From: "JUSTIN DAVID BENNETT" Subject: RE: charring lamp sockets Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:07:44 -0600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unfortunately this is not uncommon, but the lamp socket is replaceable. I have always attributed this to an improperly seated lamp or a heat issue. In either instance, a gap is created between the lamp posts and the electrical contacts in the socket in which an electrical arc occurs. This leaves non conductive deposits behind which eventually cause the instrument to short open and stop working. The band-aid solution is to clean off the deposits until your new sockets come in and you can repair them correctly. The only time I have seen it in S4's is when they are used as work lights for eight or more hours a day. The way those bases are constructed it's difficult to improperly seat the lamp. If you are dealing with an inexperienced crew, make sure they know that the metal clip goes on top of the lamps heat sink and not around the sides. I have seen that goof more than once. I don't know what replacements cost off hand, but I think around $20 each. Justin Bennett Technical Director / Theatre Manager St. Philip's College - Watson Fine Arts Center jbennett43 [at] mail.accd.edu (210) 531-4706 Office (210) 531-4768 Fax -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Byron Lovelace Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 9:59 AM I have a problem with two pin lamp sockets charring so bad they won't pass current and render the fixture useless until repaired. ------------------------------ From: "G. D. George" Subject: RE: Starter Rife Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:11:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've seen 19th century blank firing long guns, but nothing as early as that. I'd suggest purchasing a black powder kit that uses a percussion cap, rather than powder-priming. Fill the muzzle so that it can't be loaded, of course. Not sure if the cap would be loud enough though. Have you considered using a replica and firing a blank gun off stage? Or do you want the puff of smoke? The replicas and the black powder arms are all over the web. Jerry G. D. George Assistant Professor and Technical Director Capital University Theatre Department of Communications 1 College and Main Columbus, OH 43209 (614) 236-6498 ggeorge [at] capital.edu -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Chris Wych Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:54 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Starter Rife For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I need some suggestions on companys to contact about buying a Rifle for a production of "Our Counrty's Good". The show takes place in Sidney, Australia during 1788. The rifle needs to be fired and we're looking for a starting rifle first before looking at a rifle that will fire blanks. Either one will do. The theatre is also looking at buying it so they have it in stock instead of renting again and again. Suggestion on companys to contact? Thanks for the help, Chris Wych Chris Wych Indiana University Scenic Graduate Student a_small_idiot [at] yahoo.com ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ http://www.theatretechie.com ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "G. D. George" Subject: RE: Starter Rife Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:14:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Never dealt with these guys, but worth a look. My favorite is the Blunderbuss (with bayonet, no less). http://replicagunsswords.com/weapons_gallery/home.php?cat=140 There's also IAR Arms (www.iar-arms.com) and Maxsell (www.maxsell.com) but their stuff is about a hundred years too late. Jerry G. D. George Assistant Professor and Technical Director Capital University Theatre Department of Communications 1 College and Main Columbus, OH 43209 (614) 236-6498 ggeorge [at] capital.edu -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Chris Wych Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:54 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Starter Rife For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I need some suggestions on companys to contact about buying a Rifle for a production of "Our Counrty's Good". The show takes place in Sidney, Australia during 1788. The rifle needs to be fired and we're looking for a starting rifle first before looking at a rifle that will fire blanks. Either one will do. The theatre is also looking at buying it so they have it in stock instead of renting again and again. Suggestion on companys to contact? Thanks for the help, Chris Wych Chris Wych Indiana University Scenic Graduate Student a_small_idiot [at] yahoo.com ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ http://www.theatretechie.com ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:33:03 -0500 From: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: knots In-Reply-To: References: I have never heard of a "log hitch", (nor could I find it in any of my knot books). Could you have meant a "timber hitch"? A timber hitch is not the same as an icicle hitch. The icicle hitch is credited to John Smith (May 1990). Geoffrey Budworth has an excellent description (and photoes) of how to tie it in THE UNTIMATE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF KNOWS AND ROPEWORK. I prefer the "snuggle hitch" which Budworth also describes in this book. -Delbert On 2/3/06, Paul Marsland wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > So is an "icicle hitch" the same as what I have > always > called a log hitch; a half hitch on top and a clove > hitch a few feet down? > > For the knot fans on the list, dig this website! > > http://tinyurl.com/9sq62 > > Paul > > > > Or you could tie an Icicle hitch or similar knot > > to > > > the top of the boom pipe to safety to the grid. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -- Delbert L. Hall ZFX Flying Director Phone: 714-585-7070 ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: RE: charring lamp sockets Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:46:48 -0500 >I have a problem with two pin lamp sockets charring so bad they won't pass >current and render the fixture useless until repaired. I'm talking about >lecos that take EHGs, and S4s and S4jrs that use HPLs. Is this common? Is >there a remedy? Are there prevention measures? The usually cause is seating the lamp incorrectly in the socket. It also happens when the wrong type of lamp is used (different base or higher wattage), or sockets aren't kept clean. I've also seen it happen when a lamp is installed in an instrument that's hot, which is bad practice for many other reasons. I wouldn't say it's common, but it all depends on the skill of your electricians. The lamp caps on all the fixtures you mention are removable, so you can trade "good" caps to units in the air, while repairing bad caps. You can replace the entire socket (in Altmans) or the leads (in Source Fours). If you don't have a manual to refer to, I believe both companies keep them online. Also, many rental houses will repair units for you, although the cost is pretty expensive. You should be able to order the parts you need through a theatrical vendor such as Production Advantage. Matthew Breton Technical Director Cambridge Family YMCA Theater (617) 447-5261 (cell) www.cambymca.org _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060203105444.00d0b680 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:54:44 From: CB Subject: RE: side lighting >> then on the first day, God created gaffers tape. >> Because there is no way he could have finished the set and >> lighting in six days without it" > >Actually, some of us remember the days before gaffers' tape was in common >use, and we designed and executed the sets and lighting for many shows in >those days. Just as we suspected, Jeff has been in the biz since before God created the universe. (heh!) Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43E3994F.6020707 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:56:31 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Starter Rife References: Chris, Try Western Stage Props in Las Vegas. They used to be Mark Allen. Lots of choices and good prices. www.westernstageprops.com Steve Rees Chris Wych wrote: > I need some suggestions on companys to contact about > buying a Rifle [snip] ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060203105709.00d0b680 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:57:09 From: CB Subject: Re: Job titles >After >about 15 minutes of his "expert" opinion, I wanted to wring his neck "Look, kid, there are two ways to do this. My way, and my way when I'm really pissed off. But you get to choose." MOB has given you this tool, now you need to know when to use it. Coulda saved you thirteen minutes... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: side lighting Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:56:27 -0500 Message-ID: <00c901c628eb$27dfecd0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Just as we suspected, Jeff has been in the biz since before > God created the universe. ...And I'll remind you that, according to Genesis, the first thing he created was lighting design. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060203110018.00d0b680 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:00:18 From: CB Subject: Re: redirect of attention >Perhaps the new conservative Supreme >Court will go ahead and remove that pesky law. Ehm, other than this being the subject of many fine plays and all, we're treading dangerously close to subject matter that doesn't pertain to Stagecraft too much. Although, the consequences of this kind of politic would definitely impact the theatre and the rest of the arts community. I do have to ask, though, what law? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060203111535.00d0b680 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:15:35 From: CB Subject: Re: tech rider >I should like to think that this is a minor risk. Electricians are paid not >to do this sort of thing, and contractors of proven competence should always be >used. *sigh* Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060203112306.00d0b680 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:23:06 From: CB Subject: Re: side lighting >Oh, that sounds so easy unless you remember I'm talking about rented booms. Eek! Ehm, n'ermind... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Starter Rife Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:26:18 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9B0B [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Suggestion on companys to contact? Try http://weaponsofchoicetheatrical.com/. ------------------------------ From: "G. D. George" Subject: RE: redirect of attention Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:30:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You know, that pesky Church and State thingy... what was it called? G. D. George Assistant Professor and Technical Director Capital University Theatre Department of Communications 1 College and Main Columbus, OH 43209 (614) 236-6498 ggeorge [at] capital.edu -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:00 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: redirect of attention For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- >Perhaps the new conservative Supreme >Court will go ahead and remove that pesky law. Ehm, other than this being the subject of many fine plays and all, we're treading dangerously close to subject matter that doesn't pertain to Stagecraft too much. Although, the consequences of this kind of politic would definitely impact the theatre and the rest of the arts community. I do have to ask, though, what law? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060203113300.00d0b680 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:33:00 From: CB Subject: RE: Mic stand recommendations... >Checkout Sweetwater.com, I think they have what you described, or at >least something close. Thanks for the leads, but no, this was actually clawball feet on the end, and looked like the quintessential Queen Anne era micstand base. Also called 'ball and claw'. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060203102424.01fc8418 [at] interstellar.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:33:07 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: lack of documentation We're all used to having people underdocument projects (and yet want a firm bid on building it). I just received the best yet: A client needs a device re-designed for a new enclosure which has specific locations for buttons, connectors, etc. But...they can't get any drawings from the enclosure manufacturer and were wondering if this would be a problem. I suggested a psychic. They did offer that they may be able to get us an enclosure before we design the guts. That would be nice, I often like to know what I'm building. Firm bid? Hahahahahahaha -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:31:50 -0600 From: Mick Alderson Subject: RE: tech riders Message-id: <08300F70-F5CB-46E2-BD97-43F0CE70CDB5 [at] uwosh.edu> CB wrote: > If reversing the gender of the G&N made anyone's life easier, or > safer, I'd > be all for it. All it does is give you a warm feeling of safety > where none > atually exists, and makes a whole lot of busy work when time is of the > essence. I'll take either way, as long as someone can decide which > one and > get everyone else to go along with it. Agreed! I have been ME for an annual 5-day Country-music festival for several summers. The power gennies always have all-female hookups. Invariably about half the sound rigs and a third of the ML rigs that bands bring will have gear with reversed N/G, and of COURSE the only set of turn-arounds disappears with the first warm-up band on the first day! :-) Mick Alderson TD, Fredric March Theatre University of Wisconsin Oshkosh alderson [at] uwosh.edu ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <25a.63631ed.3114fe68 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:43:52 EST Subject: Re: tech riders In a message dated 03/02/06 00:16:45 GMT Standard Time, megironda [at] att.net writes: > > Idiot proofing gear is impossible. I shouldn't even try. The more idiots > who > > kill themselves, the safer the world will be. > > > > > > Frank Wood > > Where will we get our director's? > Gerry G. Or managements, except that they don't get their hands dirty. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <12a.6dd84194.3114ff59 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:47:53 EST Subject: Re: Tech Riders In a message dated 03/02/06 13:09:05 GMT Standard Time, Cosmo.A.Catalano [at] williams.edu writes: > Careful now. According to Darwin, the few idiots that do survive will > live to breed better idiots. That's us! Why else would we work in this business? Frank Wood ------------------------------ Subject: RE: tech riders Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:48:20 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9B0C [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > > Where will we get our director's? > > Gerry G. >=20 > Or managements, except that they don't get their hands dirty. This statement implies that you've known directors to actually get their hands dirty...I know you're pretty far away from me, Frank, but didn't realize you lived in an entirely different universe! ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <27a.439c4cc.311500df [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:54:23 EST Subject: Re: knots In a message dated 03/02/06 15:47:52 GMT Standard Time, paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com writes: > So is an "icicle hitch" the same as what I have > always > called a log hitch; a half hitch on top and a clove > hitch a few feet down? I've always caller it a 'timber hitch', but any way, it's a very useful knot, and the description is exact. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1fb.197d10a4.31150208 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:59:20 EST Subject: Re: sizing drops In a message dated 03/02/06 15:49:45 GMT Standard Time, klad [at] klad.com writes: > it is also sometimes in the baking aisle, used as a thickener for a > Roux. Yeugh!!! The only proper thickener is flour. Potato flour is an expedient, cornflour a very last resort, as it produces a glazed appearance. OK for Caneton a l'Orange, Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <5a73bd8d0602031110o274d9c26j66cbce521158b90b [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:10:07 -0500 From: Kevin Lowry Subject: Re: sizing drops In-Reply-To: References: I find that eaither diluted white (latex) or flex glue work the best for sizing. I find that if using the flex glue you want to dilute it 8:1 or for the paint 6:. Hope this helps Kevin On 2/3/06, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 03/02/06 15:49:45 GMT Standard Time, klad [at] klad.com wri= tes: > > > it is also sometimes in the baking aisle, used as a thickener for a > > Roux. > > Yeugh!!! The only proper thickener is flour. Potato flour is an expedient= , > cornflour a very last resort, as it produces a glazed appearance. OK for = Caneton > a l'Orange, > > Frank Wood > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:13:35 -0500 From: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: knots In-Reply-To: References: A Killick hitch is a timber hitch (not a clove hitch) followed by half hitch around the pole (or whatever) at a distance from the timber hitch. Works really well. -Delbert On 2/3/06, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 03/02/06 15:47:52 GMT Standard Time, > paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com writes: > > > So is an "icicle hitch" the same as what I have > > always > > called a log hitch; a half hitch on top and a clove > > hitch a few feet down? > > I've always caller it a 'timber hitch', but any way, it's a very useful k= not, > and the description is exact. > > Frank Wood > -- Delbert L. Hall ZFX Flying Director Phone: 714-585-7070 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <28e.5062073.311505cd [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:15:25 EST Subject: Re: charring lamp sockets In a message dated 03/02/06 16:05:49 GMT Standard Time, lovelace [at] hot.rr.com writes: > I have a problem with two pin lamp sockets charring so bad they won't > pass current and render the fixture useless until repaired. I'm talking > about lecos that take EHGs, and S4s and S4jrs that use HPLs. Is this > common? Is there a remedy? Are there prevention measures? If these are GX or GY 9.5 sockets, I have answers. Yes, it is common. The remedy is to change them, and I can't think of preventive measures, other than to replace them with the best quality sockets you can find. The Strand Preludes are very bad for this, since the sockets are spot-welded to the lamp tray. To change one, you have to drill out three pop rivets, to remove the reflector, drill and countersink two holes for securing screws, and then take the spot welds apart with a sharp chisel. Then you have to put the whole tray back together, pop rivets and all. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Subject: RE: charring lamp sockets Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:02:12 -0600 Message-ID: <5D5187063B6B8B46A99E8C0D36E0EB097B605C [at] danube.river.idm.com> From: "Steven Haworth" Doesn't Production Advantage (in the US) sell a 'super-socket' for = Altmans, rated at 1200w and of better quality then the OEM part? Seems = I remember us discussing that here some years back. - Steven (sjh [at] idm.com) --------------------------- http://www.stagelights.info ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <2a3.4e7d0e0.3115230f [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:20:15 EST Subject: Re: sizing drops Frank! I'm shocked! It was a friend who studied to be a pastry chef in Paris who introduced me to the many uses of corn starch. Kristi In a message dated 2/3/2006 1:00:09 PM Central Standard Time, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com writes: In a message dated 03/02/06 15:49:45 GMT Standard Time, klad [at] klad.com writes: > it is also sometimes in the baking aisle, used as a thickener for a > Roux. Yeugh!!! The only proper thickener is flour. Potato flour is an expedient, cornflour a very last resort, as it produces a glazed appearance. OK for Caneton a l'Orange, Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <242.6497ab4.31152459 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:25:45 EST Subject: RE: sizing drops - ARGO info ARGO corn starch is usually found near flour in grocery stores. It comes in one pound boxes (yellow with a native-American dressed as an ear of corn on the front) As someone mentioned, it makes a great thickener for roux and gravy, makes great fruit gels for pie, and is good for a variety of other cooking applications. It's also an excellent substitute for talcum powder as it will dry the moisture without damaging the lungs like talc can. Made by Best Foods Division CPC international, Inc. Englewood CLiffs NJ 07632-9976 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060203222012.9713.qmail [at] web34712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:20:12 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Wych Subject: Re: Starter Rife In-Reply-To: Thats a good idea but the stage is a 3/4 thrust so it wouldnt sound right. Plus im sure the director wants it to look as real as possible. Thanks Chris Wych --- "G. D. George" wrote: > > Have you considered using a replica and firing a > blank gun off stage? Or do > you want the puff of smoke? > Chris Wych Indiana University Scenic Graduate Student a_small_idiot [at] yahoo.com ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ http://www.theatretechie.com ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 17:39:37 EST Subject: Re: redirect of attention ggeorge [at] capital.edu writes: << You know, that pesky Church and State thingy... what was it called? >> That would be the First Amendment to the Consitution of the United States of Amercia, AKA #1 of the Bill of Rights. Also covers freedom of speech, peaceful assembly, and that congress won't establish a national religion and make us all (pretend) to worship the same way as had been done in Great Britain depending on the religion of the monarch at the time. Kristi ------------------------------ Subject: RE: sizing drops - ARGO info Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:54:30 -0600 Message-ID: <6A5D1F7AAA9AD24696B12DC283BAF9F7A629FD [at] ADMINMAIL1.ui.uillinois.edu> From: "Flowers, Curt" I believe we are getting ourselves confused.=20 Argo Corn Starch (food) is NOT Argo Laundry Starch (not food)=20 Google for those two phrases.=20 Curt, who makes an occasional gravy and sizes an occasional drop. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of MissWisc [at] aol.com Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:26 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: sizing drops - ARGO info For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- ARGO corn starch is usually found near flour in grocery stores. It comes in=20 one pound boxes (yellow with a native-American dressed as an ear of corn on=20 the front) As someone mentioned, it makes a great thickener for roux and=20 gravy, makes great fruit gels for pie, and is good for a variety of other cooking=20 applications. It's also an excellent substitute for talcum powder as it will=20 dry the moisture without damaging the lungs like talc can. Made by Best Foods=20 Division CPC international, Inc. Englewood CLiffs NJ 07632-9976 =20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43E3E284.3050503 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:08:52 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: sizing drops - ARGO info References: I hope everyone realizes that we are talking about two different products with similar names here. The original about gloss laundry starch, the kind of stuff stiff collars are made of. Not sure where the corn starch discussion arose. To my knowledge, Corn Starch is not the stuff of collars or sizing. Kristi is right about the corn starch packaging but laundry starch comes in a blue box. Steve Rees MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > ARGO corn starch is usually found near flour in grocery stores. It comes in > one pound boxes (yellow with a native-American dressed as an ear of corn on > the front) As someone mentioned, it makes a great thickener for roux and > gravy, makes great fruit gels for pie, and is good for a variety of other cooking > applications. It's also an excellent substitute for talcum powder as it will > dry the moisture without damaging the lungs like talc can. Made by Best Foods > Division CPC international, Inc. Englewood CLiffs NJ 07632-9976 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1c8.3a206cfa.31153c4a [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 18:07:54 EST Subject: Re: sizing drops In a message dated 03/02/06 21:21:00 GMT Standard Time, MissWisc [at] aol.com writes: > Frank! I'm shocked! It was a friend who studied to be a pastry chef in Paris > > who introduced me to the many uses of corn starch. Cornflour, yes, this has a few culinary uses. As I said, in Caneton a l'Orange. Also in Blancmange. But it makes a sauce with a glossy texture, which is seldom right. And I'm not sure that laundry starch is a substitute. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1a7.47c75790.31153ea3 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 18:17:55 EST Subject: Re: sizing drops - ARGO info cjflower [at] uillinois.edu writes: << I believe we are getting ourselves confused. Argo Corn Starch (food) is NOT Argo Laundry Starch (not food) >> My apologies!!! Kristi ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <241.64a7645.311540b5 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 18:26:45 EST Subject: Re: redirect of attention In a message dated 03/02/06 22:40:14 GMT Standard Time, MissWisc [at] aol.com writes: > Also covers freedom of speech, > peaceful assembly, and that congress won't establish a national religion > and make > us all (pretend) to worship the same way as had been done in Great Britain > depending on the religion of the monarch at the time. Not really true. Henry VII was a staunch Catholic, sepatated only by the divorce; Mary even more so, as the fires of Smithfield bore witness. Her successors were more pragmatic, apart from Cromwell. I except James II, who was a Catholic, but he didn't impose his religion on the country, just tolerated it. Looked at from afar, the US seems to be divided between Baptists and Presbyterians, in general. Episcopalians and Catholics seem to be in a minority. In some states, the 'down with Darwin' brigade appears to be gaining. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060203153503.01f32240 [at] interstellar.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:35:58 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: sizing drops - ARGO info In-Reply-To: References: At 03:17 PM 2/3/2006, you wrote: >cjflower [at] uillinois.edu writes: ><< I believe we are getting ourselves confused. Argo Corn Starch (food) is >NOT Argo Laundry Starch (not food) >> > >My apologies!!! " After discovering that laundry starch was being sold in grocery aisles as a snack, causing black women to become anemic, Dr. Deas forced Argo to repackage its product in powdered form and to add a warning label, "Not Recommended for Food Use." In recognition of this service, the Food and Drug Administration awarded him a special commendation. " http://www.hscbklyn.edu/giving/deas.html A snack? Starch?? Makes rice cakes sound interesting. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:42:05 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: redirect of attention In-reply-to: Message-id: <43E3EA4D.8090003 [at] ithaca.edu> References: MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > ggeorge [at] capital.edu writes: > << You know, that pesky Church and State thingy... what was it called? >> > > > That would be the First Amendment to the Consitution of the United States of > Amercia, AKA #1 of the Bill of Rights. Actually, separation of Church and State is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. The government can interact with the church all it wants, as long as it does not pass any laws establishing an official religion. Steve L. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43E3ED59.4080700 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:55:05 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: sizing drops - ARGO info References: Kristi, No apologies necessary because in parts of this and other countries, Argo laundry starch is eaten as a snack food by pregnant women. Very common in the African-American population here. I once had a neighbor in GA who ate it by the boxful. I don't know why, just that it is done. Steve MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > cjflower [at] uillinois.edu writes: > << I believe we are getting ourselves confused. Argo Corn Starch (food) is > NOT Argo Laundry Starch (not food) >> > > My apologies!!! > > Kristi ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <146.551f368d.311546d5 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 18:52:53 EST Subject: Re: redirect of attention _slitterst [at] ithaca.edu_ (mailto:slitterst [at] ithaca.edu) writes: << Actually, separation of Church and State is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. The government can interact with the church all it wants, as long as it does not pass any laws establishing an official religion. Steve L. >> Technically, you are correct, Steve. But it is that ammendment which is "credited" as the mandate for the "separation". I see it all as moot since the three major world religions all trace their roots to a guy named Abraham/Abram who said there is one God. Koran, Torah and Bible are all the same on that point. They also all say to care for others as you would like them to care for you, as do many other religions. Would be nice if our government would follow that one for all it's citizens! :) And how does this relate to stagecraft?? Just see the many posts on theatre performed in churches. Kristi ------------------------------ From: rwhitco [at] comcast.net Subject: Re: redirect of attention Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:02:54 +0000 Message-Id: <020420060002.8251.43E3EF2E000A10810000203B2200761394010C9B0708999D [at] comcast.net> This is one way the establishment clause relates to theatre. http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_3448876 The teacher is currently on paid admin leave pending an investigation by the school district. Randy Whitcomb Manager/TD Price Civic Aud. Loveland, CO. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43E3F4BE.8090004 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:26:38 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: charring lamp sockets References:

In-Reply-To: Stephen Litterst wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Byron Lovelace wrote: >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> I have a problem with two pin lamp sockets charring so bad they won't >> pass current and render the fixture useless until repaired. I'm >> talking about lecos that take EHGs, and S4s and S4jrs that use HPLs. >> Is this common? Is there a remedy? Are there prevention measures? >> > It is common in the lekos that take EHGs. Especially if they had been > overlamped at some point in their lifespan. The remedy is to replace > the socket. We have been using the C3A socket from Production Advantage > and have had no problems or failures in those in the time we've been > using them. > > I've never had a problem with S4s. If this is a widespread issue in all > your units with bi-pin sockets, maybe the lamps aren't being seated > fully? This would give you a poor connection which could cause arcing > and pitting of the socket. > > Another possibility is your lamp brand. Some brands are just barely > within the tolerances for the ANSI spec, which means they may be a bit > smaller than the socket is designed to hold. Changing to a new brand > might help. > > Steve L. > > > > The other thing is that arcing of the contacts is contagious. By that I mean, if you put a good bulb in a damaged socket, the pins on the bubble get damaged in turn. Then when you replace the contacts in the socket with new ones, and put the old lamp with the damaged pins into it, it works, but it starts the damage in the perfectly good socket. So when you replace the socket, toss the glass glowy thing as well, so you don't propagate the damage into the repaired socket. In my experience, I don't know if anyone has actually done any actual research on this. --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:14:45 -0500 Subject: Re: charring lamp sockets From: "Curtis L. Mortimore" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Byron, EHG's? Yeah, they get old. It sucks. The only thing I know is seat'em tight and hope for the best. Replace'em after they've eaten their first lamp. They only get hungrier if you keep feeding them. HPL's in S4's are a different story. How old are your S4's? Do they have lamp retaining wires in the caps? My experience is that the older S4 caps without the retainers do have problems with arcing. As the spring clip (different from the retaining wire) ages and after it has endured a countless number of heat/cool cycles it loses it's ability hold the lamp tightly in position. The inherent vibration of electricity eventually causes the lamp to slip a bit and begin arcing. Once it begins arcing the only real solution is to replace the socket leads, the lamp and the spring clip. If you have to take the whole thing apart to replace the leads it only makes sense to spend a few extra bucks on the retainer wire upgrade which involves a few more parts but is still a simple repair. You should ask your local vendor about the upgrade kits. If memory serves correctly ETC sells a retainer kit which runs just short of ten bucks with socket wires extra. They have a PDF of how to install the kit on their website http://www.etcconnect.com/literature/ look for "Source Four Lamp Retainer Upgrade" Hope that helps, your mileage may vary, and good luck. -- Curtis L. Mortimore Technical Director Ball State University Department of Theatre and Dance Muncie, IN 47306 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43E40373.6040200 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:29:23 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: redirect of attention References: In-Reply-To: rwhitco [at] comcast.net wrote: > This is one way the establishment clause relates to theatre. > > http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_3448876 I think you're misreading the article. The establishment doesn't feel that the teacher did anything wrong, except perhaps showing the video to too-young children. It's the ultra-conservative parents who are causing the problems. > The teacher is currently on paid admin leave pending an investigation > by the school district. The article doesn't say anything about paid leave. Quite the opposite, actually: "George Sauter, district superintendent, said Waggoner is not in danger of losing her job." Do you have an additional source of information? -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ From: rwhitco [at] comcast.net Subject: Re: redirect of attention Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 01:41:06 +0000 Message-Id: <020420060141.13823.43E4063200054179000035FF2200734076010C9B0708999D [at] comcast.net> > > The teacher is currently on paid admin leave pending an investigation > > by the school district. > > The article doesn't say anything about paid leave. Quite the opposite, > actually: "George Sauter, district superintendent, said Waggoner is not > in danger of losing her job." > > Do you have an additional source of information? > There was a short follow up article a day or two later. http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_3459859 Randy Whitcomb Manager/TD Price Auditorium Loveland, CO. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:07:10 -0500 Subject: Re: sizing drops - ARGO info From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > After discovering that laundry starch was being sold in grocery > aisles as a snack, causing black women to become anemic, Dr. Deas > forced Argo to repackage its product in powdered form and to add a > warning label, "Not Recommended for Food Use." In recognition of this > service, the Food and Drug Administration awarded him a special commendation. > " > http://www.hscbklyn.edu/giving/deas.html > > A snack? Starch?? Makes rice cakes sound interesting. I understood that in some ethic areas (such as our old hispanic neighborhood in NYC), women were fond of eating the (blue box) Argo laundry starch when they were pregnant - which is why we could find it at the bodega. Hopefully that either never happened or doesn't happen anymore... - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:49:22 -0500 Subject: Volunteers needed in NYC (non New Yawkers ignore) From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: Hi folks, I'm designing "All Is Full Of Love" a benefit for Dancers Respond to AIDS. The show is next Sunday the 12th. I need helpers for Load in on Friday 11-6, Saturday 11-5, and Sunday strike 9pm-midnight. I'm buying the beer after the strike. And on Friday. (Saturday I will be teching) The show goes into the lovely St. Clemens theater on 46th st. between 9th and 10th. It's not a huge plot but the space is work intensive. I'll take any and all levels of stagecraft skill. It's for a good cause and it's a beautiful piece. Please respond to me off-list so we don't waste bandwidth. Thanks __herrick -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #678 *****************************