Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 27508480; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:01:40 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #688 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:00:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #688 1. Re: Stage Beer by Paul Schreiner 2. Re: Qualified Rigging Inspectors & Logs (Was: Life of a Counter-weight system) by "RD" 3. Re: Getting Nothing Done (was: Re: Qualified Rigging Inspectors & Logs, Was: Lif by Herrick Goldman 4. Re: Stage Beer by Herrick Goldman 5. Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games by IAEG [at] aol.com 6. Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games by "Jon Ares" 7. Re: Colored Cable by Cosmo Catalano 8. Buzzing welding cable by Scott Parker 9. Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games by Stephen Litterst 10. Rigging inspection and distance by BKHAIN [at] aol.com 11. Re: Colored Cable by "Carson Koz Noel at LSFX Co." 12. Re: Stage Beer by LITETROL [at] aol.com 13. Re: Stage Beer by MissWisc [at] aol.com 14. Re: Buzzing welding cable by "Occy" 15. Stage Beer by CB 16. Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games by Dale Farmer 17. Re: Buzzing welding cable by Dale Farmer 18. Re: Getting Nothing Done by CB 19. Re: Getting Nothing Done by CB 20. Re: Colored Cable by Mitch Hefter 21. Re: Stage Beer by CB 22. Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games by CB 23. Re: Qualified Rigging Inspectors by "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" 24. Indoor pond with a waterfall by Brian James 25. Re: Getting Nothing Done by Dale Farmer 26. Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall by Dale Farmer 27. Re: Opening Ceremonies by Bill Sapsis 28. Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall by Stephen Litterst 29. Re: Opening Ceremonies by Mark O'Brien 30. Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall by Bill Sapsis 31. Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall by "Don Taco" 32. Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall by "Jon Lagerquist" 33. Re: Pictures by "Don Taco" 34. trapeze actress by Judy 35. Re: Colored Cable by Scott Peterson 36. Re: Pictures by Pat Kight *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:24:09 -0500 From: Paul Schreiner Subject: Re: Stage Beer In-Reply-To: References: > English beer is different again, as is Scottish. In my view, no European > beer is bad, although I mak an excption for German Weizebier. I dunno...I generally prefer a good hefeweizen over pilsners any day.=20 It's altbier I can't really develop a taste for. ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: Qualified Rigging Inspectors & Logs (Was: Life of a Counter-weight system) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:24:10 -0700 Message-ID: <0c6101c62ea9$dc95bfb0$6400a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: Insurance, via brokers or carriers is expensive and will continue to be so as long as there is some interesting activity going on in the insurance companies of the world. I was fortunate to work for the 2nd largest in the world, and with about sixty or seventy carriers plus Lloyds. Inspecting and or working on projects still is expensive, and there is a need, in my opinion, to investigate incredibly thoroughly all those who do inspections. There are inspections and there are "inspections." A good insurance company will be thorough whether it is for pyro or inspections. Premiums are high and E & O is even higher, but it is the price of many occurrences, and incidents which have driven up costs. You always want to be fully covered if you are doing projects, as Bill Conner knows, and most of us who have been doing this for years (myself, I started in August, 1943, and was not covered then, but certainly am now.)doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Idaho Scenic and Rigging Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:25 PM To: Stagecraft Cc: Bill Conner Subject: Re: Qualified Rigging Inspectors & Logs (Was: Life of a Counter-weight system) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- The last time I needed project insurance, I was put off two weeks while the agent "investigated" me, and the GC, the engineer, and architect. Which was fine, we half way expected it, had all our ducks in a row, and was still within the timeline for installation. (aside) In the last 9 years that (static) installation has been inspected twice. Robert Riddle Will Disagree for the Sake of Discussion Will Discuss for the Sake of Learning ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Conner" > Sure. Lots of companies out there willing to risk a million bucks that > anybody can do it and nobody makes mistakes. Sure. > > And what socialist country do you live in? (Oh right - maybe you're the > poster not far from Madison.) > > Go ahead and try to get professional liability insurance. Call an agent. > See how far you get. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:42:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Getting Nothing Done (was: Re: Qualified Rigging Inspectors & Logs, Was: Life of a Counter-weight system) From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: It ain't the machine chris. Its how you use it. Caffe Basso all the way baby. On 2/10/06 1:27 PM, "CB" wrote: > > P.S. This'll end the battle of who has the best machine once and for > all.... > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ > > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:43:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Stage Beer From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Tell him its an acquired taste and he'll drink it and like it! On 2/10/06 2:19 PM, "Tara Holmes" wrote: > -The actor who drinks the most is under age and does not like the taste of the > fake beer. > > Any suggestions would be happily welecomed! > > Thanks > Tara > University of Denver > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <212.12cdaefb.311e9b0d [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:42:37 EST Subject: Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games In a message dated 2/10/06 6:40:59 PM, pabrah [at] telus.net writes: << I didn't check the American networks to see if they were covering the ceremonies. Sorry about that everyone. >> NBC has it here, , but they delayed the broadcast to prime time on the east coast best regards, Keith Arsenault International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, FL ------------------------------ Message-ID: <007501c62eac$e53116d0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:45:54 -0800 > > NBC has it here, , but they delayed the broadcast to prime time on the > east > coast > Don't ruin it for us "West-siders." :) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:51:21 -0500 From: Cosmo Catalano Subject: RE: Colored Cable Cc: Sam [at] FisherTheatrical.com Message-id: OK , Sam where do I order this cable from? I've never seen a red extension cord (orange, blue and green, but not red). I need 1600ft. That's why I don't want to paint, sheath or tape each cable. The "column" of parallel cables should be hollow, and about 6-8" across. 40watt G40 were chosen for their size, could not find the 25's in a G40 bulb. Cosmo > From: "Sam Fisher" > Subject: RE: Colored Cable > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:14:22 -0500 > Message-ID: <004f01c62e97$ba289900$0200a8c0 [at] ftoffice.local> > In-Reply-To: > > It is fairly easy to order red SJ cable, or even buy fairly economical > extension cords and cut the ends off. For a chandelier, is there a > reason > you don't want to just paint it and just heat shrink the bundle? > > Sam Fisher ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980602101752m2cbbeda9g7b35a64235780ca9 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:52:29 -0500 From: Scott Parker Subject: Buzzing welding cable Greetings, I'm teaching basic welding in a shop with welding equipment meant for ship and sky scraper building. Heavy duty to say the least. One of the welders has a positive (DCRP) cable that gives off a very light charge and a sound similar to static electricity when the cable is touched. The units are sitting on concrete with tight cable connections. The cable jacket looks in good shape. It's a bit freaky to say the least. Has anyone dealt with this sort of thin= g? Any suggestions? (Besides, don't use it;-)) Thanks, Scott =09Scott C. Parker =09Professor/Technical Director =09Dept. of Performing Arts =09Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University =09Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F =09Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza =09New York, NY 10038 =09212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:22:56 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games In-reply-to: Message-id: <43ED4A80.4090602 [at] ithaca.edu> References:

Eh, it needed more cowbell. Steve L. Pamela Abra wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > What are everyone's thoughts with the Opening ceremonies of the Olympic > Games? > I like the rings, lighting, acrobats on the rings. Always spectacular > lighting and costumes. Colour and stage! > > Lots of 70's music at the start. > > Nice futuristic ballet costumes. > > Cool Ferari!!!!Gotta love that! > > Thanks > Pam > -- Stephen Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College, Theatre Arts 607.274.3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ From: BKHAIN [at] aol.com Message-ID: <23c.6b40c2f.311ea816 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:38:14 EST Subject: Rigging inspection and distance Time for a clarification and apology here if anyone felt slighted...that definitely was not my intent. I made the comment that I was having a rigging inspection here in Minnesota and said "...I'm just sorry I'm not closer to Mr. Sapsis and company headquarters or other rigging companies / inspectors on this list" What I meant by that was I have gotten a lot of useful advice from those of you who are more vocal on the list and, by default, more well known and also some emails with Mr. Sapsis and it simply meant it was budget reasons and the cost of travel that I chose the local company I did. Time to stop before I dig any deeper! Ben ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004901c62eb5$0ee22de0$0501a8c0 [at] LSFXCO> Reply-To: "Carson Koz Noel at LSFX Co." From: "Carson Koz Noel at LSFX Co." References: Subject: Re: Colored Cable Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:44:19 -0700 Organization: Light and Sound FX Company I have to speak up here. Do NOT use CAT5 cable. It is not designed to carry that kind of current or voltage. Most CAT5 cable insulations are spec'd to 300V, this does not mean that is what it was intended for. If you go to your local Lowes or Home Depot, they both have a nice SJTOO extension cord "in red". CAT5 cable has a specific twist pattern for its application. Just because the conductor size is corect, does NOT mean it will work for your project. When in doubt, consult a professional! Carson "Koz" Noel, III Light and Sound FX Company / LSFX Tucson, Arizona 520.419.4529 - Phone Koz [at] LSFXCo.com *** This communication is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain privileged and/or other confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, or believe that you have received this communication in error, please send reply to above email address or phone.*** ------------------------------ From: LITETROL [at] aol.com Message-ID: <242.6b380f9.311eaaee [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:50:22 EST Subject: Re: Stage Beer Inquiring minds want to know: can you consume "real" "beer", "spirits" on television? Ads? shows? ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <9d.70cfced5.311eabdc [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:54:20 EST Subject: Re: Stage Beer I seem to recall an article about a food dresser who said she used light motor oil and a whipped egg white head for beer commericals. Has the kid tried Verners Ginger Ale or a dark creme soda? Heck coke looks like Guiness if you shake it up a lot. Kristi In a message dated 2/10/2006 8:51:00 PM Central Standard Time, LITETROL [at] aol.com writes: Inquiring minds want to know: can you consume "real" "beer", "spirits" on television? Ads? shows? ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Buzzing welding cable Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:57:30 -0800 Turn the high freq option off if it has that option I have forgotten was high freq welding is for these days but that's your problem and most chances are you don't need it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Parker" --------------------------------------------------- Greetings, I'm teaching basic welding in a shop with welding equipment meant for ship and sky scraper building. Heavy duty to say the least. One of the welders has a positive (DCRP) cable that gives off a very light charge and a sound similar to static electricity when the cable is touched. The units are sitting on concrete with tight cable connections. The cable jacket looks in good shape. It's a bit freaky to say the least. Has anyone dealt with this sort of thing? Any suggestions? (Besides, don't use it;-)) Thanks, Scott Scott C. Parker Professor/Technical Director Dept. of Performing Arts Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza New York, NY 10038 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060210195842.00d1fd10 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:58:42 From: CB Subject: Stage Beer >-The actor who drinks the most is under age and does not like the taste of the fake beer. So, if he wants to be an actor that is not underage, tell him to act as if he likes it. ; > Really, send him out to find a solution! No, really, try ginger beers, or some of the root beers or sodas that come in beer-looking bottles at your local hippie store. Made with real cane sugar, and not quite as bad for the minors as the corn syrup laden sodas. Not quite 'good for you', but not as bad. Cane colas are pretty tasty, too! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43ED554F.6050104 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:09:03 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games References:

In-Reply-To: Jon Ares wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> >> NBC has it here, , but they delayed the broadcast to prime time on the >> east >> coast >> > > > Don't ruin it for us "West-siders." :) > > - Jon Ares > www.hevanet.com/acreative I'm watching it now. I wish the damn talking heads would just shut their pie-holes and let me hear the program. The fire effects are wicked neat. The rigging for the dancers must have been fun to do. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43ED564D.40302 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:13:17 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: Buzzing welding cable References: In-Reply-To: Scott Parker wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings, > I'm teaching basic welding in a shop with welding equipment meant for > ship and sky scraper building. Heavy duty to say the least. One of the > welders has a positive (DCRP) cable that gives off a very light charge > and a sound similar to static electricity when the cable is touched. > The units are sitting on concrete with tight cable connections. The > cable jacket looks in good shape. > It's a bit freaky to say the least. Has anyone dealt with this sort of thing? > Any suggestions? (Besides, don't use it;-)) > > Thanks, Scott > > Scott C. Parker > Professor/Technical Director > Dept. of Performing Arts > Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University > Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F > Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza > New York, NY 10038 > 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 > > > Take the cable out of service. Give it a wash with soap and hot water, preferably with a power washer. My guess is that you have a buildup of conductive gunk on the cable, and the current is leaking out via a tiny cut or crack someplace. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060210201430.00d1fd10 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:14:30 From: CB Subject: Re: Getting Nothing Done >Nice!!! yep, a nice strong one for me when you get it fired up!!! Yer on. I'm bending the conduit for the 220V line (220-221, whatever it takes) tomorrow or Sunday, and then I need to figger out a way to get water to her. I'm not sure if I want to plumb her in and deal with the water softener or spend the buck and a half on the lil pump for a 5 gal jug. I'm thinking I'll have to go ahead and get the pump deally, and terminate the SJOO in a plug that is going to be compatible with PD's in the audio dept if I'm going to take her with me. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060210201721.00d1fd10 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:17:21 From: CB Subject: Re: Getting Nothing Done >What time do you open? Do you deliver? I could use a pick me up, >this afternoon. It is kinda cold out... I open at the crack of noon. I do deliver, get your paycheck out. This'll do the trick, but it leaves me at about 150 deg Farenheit, I can't make any promises as to what the temp will be when it gets to you. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060210211203.0323a870 [at] mail.DesignRelief.com> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:21:32 -0600 From: Mitch Hefter Subject: Re: Colored Cable In-Reply-To: References: Cosmo Catalano wrote: >120 Volts. The application is a chandelier made from about 50 >individual 40watt G40 medium screw base lamps. Each socket is >individually suspended by it's own red cable. All the cables are >bundled together in a cylindrical shape. The piece never tours, >doesn't fly in and out, and is never touched by anyone once it is in >the air. It has one move: from the shop to the theatre. I'm not too >concerned about conforming to the NEC. What Code applies in your area ? You can ignore the NEC if some other Code is in place. Odds are that you have to comply with some (recent) edition of the NEC, not necessarily the current one, maybe modified slightly. > You pretty much have to use an 'SO' (extra-hard usage) cable and provide grounding per Article 520. You might be able to do something else, except this is a custom fixture, with no Listing. And when you bundle, you may need to derate. Don't let you liability hang out like this. Mr. Kramer - care to add to this ? . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mitch Hefter Member NEC Panel 15 Office: Entertainment Technology / a Genlyte Company mhefter [at] genlyte.com +1-214/ 647-7880 x 7967 http://www.etdimming.com :: http://www.vari-lite.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060210202419.00d1fd10 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:24:19 From: CB Subject: Re: Stage Beer >English beer is different again, as is Scottish. In my view, no European >beer is bad, although I mak an excption for German Weizebier Frank, next time I hop the ditch, I must take you to places to get a proper wheat beer. There are those that know how to make a proper wheat beer, and those that don't. Don't knock and entire kind of beer jsut because you haven't met anyone that can make a good one. And on that subject, should you ever hop the ditch in this direction, I can introduce you te quite a few US beers that would bring a smile to your face. Yep, even one or two American wheat beers! No one drinks Budweiser here anymore, except rich frat boys and poor construction workers. You are correct, though, it doesn't hold a candle to the beer it stole its name from! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060210202557.00d1fd10 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:25:57 From: CB Subject: Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games >I'm in Canada. >> ya must be in Europe Yah, North American Europe, eh? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <008601c62ebc$08df2950$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" References: Subject: Re: Qualified Rigging Inspectors Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:34:15 -0700 Where do we go from here and where does the money come from? Someone stated along this thread that their systems were shut down / modified to compensate for the shortfalls / inadequacies/ dangers of their system. That is good in the regard that dangers were removed. But where does this lead us? For the systems that are still out there in disrepair, accidents waiting to happen, to the training of that future technician who will not be able to experience a full system until maybe(?) college or when he/she walks backstage of a major theatre that fully supports a knowledgeable program of planned maintenance. You Bill, better than I, could estimate what percentage of Theaters - Local, Middle School, High School, College and beyond, have life threatening conditions hanging above them. We could whistle blow until we run out of breath. The results would be many fold: Theaters shut down, theaters minimized, and not a majority upgraded and or repaired with due diligence. I agree that if someone escapes an injury or death, it is more than worth it. What I fear is that this is what would have to take place for many local /regional people to wake up. I could ask many school administrators how the AC accident should affect them. It doesn't. IF they even know about it. How can we convince local people, on up to College Boards to take notice AND allocate monies when the public education system is already strapped. Would / could a Chairman of a Theater Department say, "No shows for two semesters, we need the money to repair equipment." One of the state venues I work at was recently written up for no intermittent rails on their catwalk handrails. A feasible solution has been designed and approved, but no money was allocated in last years budget to implement it. Hardly a life threatening situation, but... To wit, I end my rant. Except to add: What is the shape of our bridge infrastructures of our state and federal highway systems? :-( I thank thee for the bandwidth Robert Riddle Will Disagree for the Sake of Discussion Will Discuss for the Sake of Learning ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sapsis" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Qualified Rigging Inspectors & Logs (Was: Life ofaCounter-weight system) > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > This is obviously a life threatening situation. If the administration is > not willing to do anything about it then someone needs to step up and blow > the whistle. I am not going to advise how to do that. I have my methods, > your mileage may vary. > > This is the kind of thing I hate to hear about and would love to go over > there and rattle some cages. It's bad enough placing adults in danger but > to do that to kids? No way. > > On 2/10/06 2:28 PM, "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" > wrote: > > > As the resident rigging installer for a Memphis company years ago, I was > > asked as a favor by the boss to go inspect a local forty + year old high > > school, which had had a batten fall the night before. I did. This > > theatre had for decades rented the space to Rotary, Children's > > pageants,.... whatever, with NO maintenance and supervision. I > > reported back to my boss that the entire grid area should be red flagged > > and shut down. I, my boss, and the poor Drama teacher who had > > inherited it had no authority to do it and... The show went on that > > night. Sadly so, I heard no more about it. > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43ED6BB0.2000100 [at] gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:44:32 -0500 From: Brian James Reply-To: brianedwardjames [at] gmail.com Subject: Indoor pond with a waterfall Has any one here built and indoor water effect including a water fall? If so, I would love some hints on where to look for some "hoe too" information. As well as any insight you may have.... -- Brian James Everyone has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film" ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43ED6D22.3020501 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:50:42 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: Getting Nothing Done References: In-Reply-To: CB wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Nice!!! yep, a nice strong one for me when you get it fired up!!! > > Yer on. I'm bending the conduit for the 220V line (220-221, whatever it > takes) tomorrow or Sunday, and then I need to figger out a way to get water > to her. I'm not sure if I want to plumb her in and deal with the water > softener or spend the buck and a half on the lil pump for a 5 gal jug. I'm > thinking I'll have to go ahead and get the pump deally, and terminate the > SJOO in a plug that is going to be compatible with PD's in the audio dept > if I'm going to take her with me. > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ > Next task after that is to design the road case for it. *grins* Don't forget room for the supplies it will need. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43ED6EBE.3090905 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:57:34 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall References: In-Reply-To: Brian James wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Has any one here built and indoor water effect including a water fall? > If so, I would love some hints on where to look for some "hoe too" > information. As well as any insight you may have.... > > Keep the water vac handy. --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:55:23 -0500 Subject: RE: Opening Ceremonies From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Whew. I'm breathless. OK. All you left coasters...let us know when the ceremonies are over for you so we can all talk about them. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:58:43 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall In-reply-to: Message-id: <43ED6F03.5080001 [at] ithaca.edu> References: Brian James wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > Has any one here built and indoor water effect including a water fall? > If so, I would love some hints on where to look for some "hoe too" > information. As well as any insight you may have.... We're halfway through building ours. Make sure you build the pond strong enough to hold the mass of the water. We're installing the waterfall part of it Sunday. Hopefully I'll know more by then about how it works. Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College, Theatre Arts 607.274.3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060210215858.h5a5oo8gsgsko80c [at] www.email.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:58:58 -0700 From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Opening Ceremonies References: In-Reply-To: I'm not even watching them. I'm taping it so I can skip through the commentary, and rewind to the good parts. Mark-O Quoting Bill Sapsis : > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Whew. I'm breathless. > > OK. All you left coasters...let us know when the ceremonies are over for > you so we can all talk about them. > > > Bill S. > www.sapsis-rigging.com > 800.727.7471 > 800.292.3851 fax > 267.278.4561 mobile > > Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity > motorcycle ride. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music 520-621-7025 520-591-1803 Mobile ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:01:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: First you chase all the musicians out of the pit.... On 2/10/06 11:44 PM, "Brian James" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Has any one here built and indoor water effect including a water fall? > If so, I would love some hints on where to look for some "hoe too" > information. As well as any insight you may have.... > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <05b501c62ec9$ed490e50$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:13:39 -0800 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sapsis" > > First you chase all the musicians out of the pit.... > > Huh? Don't you remember how much trouble it was to throw them all in there in the first place? ------------------------------ From: "Jon Lagerquist" Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:42:31 -0800 Subject: Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com Message-ID: <43ED08C7.5162.7D3B806 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: We have found that in general waterfalls make noise, and we would rather they do not. So most of the time we take a fine net like a cheese cloth or tulle and use it to guide the water down the surfaces we want. Jon Lagerquist Technical Director [at] South Coast Repertory Costa Mesa, CA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <05cb01c62ecf$8debb2e0$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References:

Subject: Re: Pictures Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:53:57 -0800 Apropos of nothing, well, almost nothing, well, okay, I'll just be long-winded about it. Rarely, if ever, do production photos illustrate, demonstrate, reflect upon, or even resemble the lighting design as seen in the theater. Especially as you move down the food chain to smaller and smaller theaters. But, occasionally, you do see some very nicely done, interesting photos, as photos. Jay Thompson's work on our recent production of 'Suessical' at Albany Civic Theater, OR, came out quite nicely. More and more of our photo work is being done digitally, which means it's easier to distribute. As a Comcast customer, I have webspace I'm not using, so I decided to undergo the painful learning experience of posting some of the photos. The Comcast interface is just this side of horrendous, but hey, I know more than I did when I started, and learning things is still considered a positive goal, last time I checked. Having gone to the trouble, and knowing that some of you enjoy looking at other people's work, I thought I'd post the address for those who want to take a peek. We're a not-for-profit all-volunteer community theater since 1951, the stage is 26.5' wide x 32.5' deep x 16' ceiling with no wing space, brick walls on both sides and only stage right allows entrances, we have 24 dimmers and less than 100 instruments counting all the useless ones. I was the lighting designer on all four of these shows, and the set designer on 'Castle' (also the director, and I did sound and effects, I know, I know, learn to delegate...). Enjoy! http://home.comcast.net/~dontaco ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43ED951B.9080800 [at] post.tau.ac.il> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:41:15 +0200 From: Judy Subject: trapeze actress I'm lighting a show where an actress does trapeze stunts, and has to act at the same time. So the director really wants good visibility for her face. The actress is not a professional trapeze artist, she learnt how to do it just for this show, and I am really afraid of blinding her or putting her to any kind of extra discomfort. I'm going to meet with the professional who trained her for the show, to discuss lighting her safely. But I am a little worried that the professional might not be aware enough of the problems facing an actress who is doing this without all the professional experience. I was wondering if anybody on the list has experience with this, if so what kind of angles, color, instruments you used. Judy ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43EDA5CD.8020305 [at] earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:52:29 -0800 From: Scott Peterson Subject: Re: Colored Cable References: In-Reply-To: I've seen 1pr and 2pr twisted #16 or #14 used for fire alarms in commercial buildings. It has a bright red jacket. Try an electrical distributor, or a local fire alarm installer. They might even have partial boxes they could donate or sell to you... Scott Peterson Upland Stage Centre www.upstgctr.com scpteck [at] earthlink.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43EDA9DA.701 [at] peak.org> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:09:46 -0800 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Pictures References:

In-Reply-To: Don Taco wrote: > Apropos of nothing, well, almost nothing, well, okay, I'll just be > long-winded about it. Rarely, if ever, do production photos illustrate, > demonstrate, reflect upon, or even resemble the lighting design as seen > in the theater. Especially as you move down the food chain to smaller > and smaller theaters. But, occasionally, you do see some very nicely > done, interesting photos, as photos. Jay Thompson's work on our recent > production of 'Suessical' at Albany Civic Theater, OR, came out quite > nicely. More and more of our photo work is being done digitally, which > means it's easier to distribute. As a Comcast customer, I have webspace > I'm not using, so I decided to undergo the painful learning experience > of posting some of the photos. The Comcast interface is just this side > of horrendous, but hey, I know more than I did when I started, and > learning things is still considered a positive goal, last time I > checked. Having gone to the trouble, and knowing that some of you enjoy > looking at other people's work, I thought I'd post the address for those > who want to take a peek. Nice work for a guy who doesn't do Webgeekery, Don. Although I may have to kill you one of those photos. And Nancy may kill you for the one where she's falling out of her dress... -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #688 *****************************