Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 27624687; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:01:34 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #692 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:00:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, SEE_FOR_YOURSELF autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #692 1. Re: Stage Beer by CB 2. We're in trouble when... by Jerry Durand 3. Re: If your bored by Ken Romaine 4. Re: We're in trouble when... by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 5. Re: We're in trouble when... by Herrick Goldman 6. Re: We're in trouble when... by Stephen Litterst 7. Re: We're in trouble when... by Bill Sapsis 8. Re: We're in trouble when... by SS 9. Re: We're in trouble when... by "Paul Schreiner" 10. Re: Lab Fees for Tech courses? by Jerry Dougherty 11. Technical possitions available by "Tony Olson" 12. Re: hot wire & welders by Paul Guncheon 13. Expendables question by Bruce Cooper 14. Re: Pictures by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 15. Touring by "Alex Curry" 16. Re: Stage Beer by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 17. Re: We're in trouble when... by Shawn King 18. Re: Pictures by Davy Davis 19. Re: Pictures by James Feinberg 20. Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant by Barney Simon 21. Re: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant by "Paul Schreiner" 22. Re: spike marks by Greg Bierly 23. Oklahoma! drops needed by Richard Beam 24. Re: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant by MissWisc [at] aol.com 25. Re: We're in trouble when... by Tony Kambic 26. Re: We're in trouble when... by David Carrico 27. Re: Pictures by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 28. Re: We're in trouble when... by "Ash Munro" 29. Re: Pictures by Jim Hyslop 30. Re: We're in trouble when... by Bill Sapsis 31. Re: We're in trouble when... by "chip.a.wood" 32. Re: We're in trouble when... by Brian Munroe 33. Re: We're in trouble when... by Herrick Goldman 34. Re: We're in trouble when... by Herrick Goldman 35. Re: We're in trouble when... by Bruce Cooper 36. Re: We're in trouble when... by "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" 37. Re: We're in trouble when... by Paul Schreiner 38. Re: We're in trouble when... by Paul Schreiner 39. Re: We're in trouble when... by Paul Schreiner 40. Re: Pictures by "Jon Ares" 41. Re: We're in trouble when... by "Jon Ares" 42. Plastic 12" globe supplier by Scott Parker 43. Re: Plastic 12" globe supplier by "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" 44. Re: Plastic 12" globe supplier by Mike Brubaker 45. Re: We're in trouble when... by gregg hillmar 46. Re: We're in trouble when... by Dale Farmer 47. Re: spike marks by seanrmc [at] earthlink.net 48. Re: Pictures by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060214073441.00d21268 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:34:41 From: CB Subject: Re: Stage Beer >It's hard to find, even in Germany, these days, most of it is pork. The best >bet is in an Italian restaurant. Jaegerschnitzetl is by definition, pork. Wienerschnitzel is veal. And Italian veal parm is a poor substitute for good wienerschnitzel. Last time I was in Schwabenland (an area in Bavaria, or Bayreuth, in German) good schnitzel of either kind was in great supply, just a coupla years ago. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <107582CC-5DF0-46A4-9790-814B70719C86 [at] interstellar.com> From: Jerry Durand Subject: We're in trouble when... Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:26:45 -0800 ...people stop drinking beer (or in this case, beer-like substance). " Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc., the nation's biggest brewer, said Wednesday its fourth-quarter profit plunged 39.5 percent from a year ago. " http://tinyurl.com/7mz4k Must have been all that talk of fruit-beer. -- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:39:37 -0500 From: Ken Romaine Subject: Re: If your bored In-Reply-To: References:

Thanx, Moe, for reminding us all, once again, to sip the drink BETWEEN post= s. Ken On 2/12/06, Maurice Moe Conn wrote: > try this out > > http://www.winterrowd.com/maze.swf > > Moe ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:54:33 GMT Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... Message-Id: <20060214.075451.24078.87195 [at] webmail34.lax.untd.com> Whoa! They are a major source of tax revenue for California, and the lar= gest source of tax in the San Fernando Valley portion of LA... /s/ Richard _______________________ "Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc., the nation's biggest brewer, said Wednesday its fourth-quarter profit plunged 39.5 percent from a year ago. Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:00:19 -0500 Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Well if they made good beer...... It's like the troubles Detroit had in the 70's. (barring Dodge of course) On a more disturbing note. I entered a local watering hole last night to find a new Monday night special of $20 all you can drink domestic beer from 8-10pm. I was psyched. I ordered up a Sam Adams and was charged $6. I was then told that Sam didn't count as domestic!!! What??!!! When did Boston Secede? While I'm typing...Many thanks to Brian Aldous who came out on Saturday and again on Sunday to help with my load in and strike for Broadway Cares. Also to David Empey of ETC NY who even dragged his wife along to help focus Altman Shakespeare units. :) -H On 2/14/06 10:26 AM, "Jerry Durand" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > ...people stop drinking beer (or in this case, beer-like substance). > > " > Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc., the nation's biggest brewer, said Wednesday > its fourth-quarter profit plunged 39.5 percent from a year ago. > " > http://tinyurl.com/7mz4k > > Must have been all that talk of fruit-beer. > > -- > Jerry Durand > Durand Interstellar, Inc. > Los Gatos, California, USA > www.interstellar.com > > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:02:28 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... In-reply-to: Message-id: <43F1FF14.3070008 [at] ithaca.edu> References: Herrick Goldman wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > On a more disturbing note. I entered a local watering hole last night to > find a new Monday night special of $20 all you can drink domestic beer from > 8-10pm. I was psyched. I ordered up a Sam Adams and was charged $6. I was > then told that Sam didn't count as domestic!!! Worked with an ATD in my summer-stock days whose college campus charged more for imported bottled water. Including "Poland Spring." Which is bottled in Maine. Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College, Theatre Arts 607.274.3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:16:12 -0500 Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: David. Are you on this list? I hear through the grapevine that you got yourself a new Buel. You should ride with us in July. Even if it's just a day or two. As a reminder to the listers out there with bikes. Motorcycles, that is. Day trippers are more than welcome to join us on our route this summer. Take a look at the route (it's on the website) and see if you can come and play for a day or more. It's 2 great causes and some very nice people. Thanks Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 2/14/06 11:00 AM, "Herrick Goldman" wrote: > While I'm typing...Many thanks to Brian Aldous who came out on Saturday and > again on Sunday to help with my load in and strike for Broadway Cares. > Also to David Empey of ETC NY who even dragged his wife along to help focus > Altman Shakespeare units. :) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0602140832j165daec4ie7ecea5b47c9eefa [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:32:33 -0500 From: SS Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... In-Reply-To: References:

>>>>As a reminder to the listers out there with bikes. Motorcycles, that is.<<<< Damn. And I just got my Huffy all waxed and everything. Even put a new baseball card in the spokes!! :) -SS TTS-EKU ------------------------------ Subject: RE: We're in trouble when... Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:33:28 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9B48 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > On a more disturbing note. I entered a local watering hole=20 > last night to find a new Monday night special of $20 all you=20 > can drink domestic beer from 8-10pm. I was psyched. I ordered=20 > up a Sam Adams and was charged $6. I was then told that Sam=20 > didn't count as domestic!!! I think I can trump that one. A local/small regional restaurant chain offers specials on "domestic pitchers". But Killian's (brewed by Coors, mind you) is considered an import. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:13:41 -0800 From: Jerry Dougherty Subject: Re: Lab Fees for Tech courses? Message-id: We have a new course fee that will be used for our production class (the mechanism that students get credit for acting and design/tech positions) to cove expendables for the stage manager's kit and scripts. The bookstore makes us buy all of the scripts that they don't sell, so with the course fee, I will buy all the scripts and give them out in the weekly class. As for labs, we are capped at $50. I think it was a policy of the former dean. Scene painting is a $50 class. It covers paint, canvas, and lumber to rebuild the occasional flat. Stage lighting is $20. It buys templates (because the bookstore won't) and some other expendables. Stage Scenery is $20. It buys glue and other shop expendables (mostly safety gear) for student projects. Some of this glue gets used in production, but the auditor hasn't busted us on that yet. I really don't know or care about the costume shop's course fees. Students have to buy their own makeup kits. Here, the book store won't stock them at a reasonable price ($100 for a Ben Nye starter kit) so an off campus book store sells them, but like the scripts, we have to buy what's left over at the end of the quarter. For the record, I negotiated none of these deals where we buy what's left over. I don't know who in their right mind did. If it were up to me, I'd have one word for the bookstore...outsourcing. Jerry Dougherty Production Manager Department of Theatre Arts Central Washington University 509-963-3239 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Tony Olson" Subject: Technical possitions available Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:20:30 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hello everyone- I am currently trying to hire people for our summer season at Northern Lights Playhouse in Northern Wisconsin. I am looking to hire a Costumer, Music Dir, designer/Tech Dir, ATD, Stage Manager, ASM, and a Box Office Manager. if you know anyonw that may be interested please have them contact me through my personal email and I will give them more information. Thank You, Tony Olson General Manager Norhtern Lights Playhouse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 03:48:03 -0900 From: Paul Guncheon Subject: Re: hot wire & welders In-reply-to: Message-id: <535AF737-0AF3-4BA1-9ECD-C9BF11493DFC [at] verizon.net> References: > The welder would be safer doing this, since the wire wouldn't be > isolated from the mains power. I won't disagree but when I used a welder to do this many many years ago, it continually tripped its internal breaker and shut down. I was using electricians fish tape wire bent into a profile and was extruding molding. also, if one doesn't have a welder, the light dimmer is way cheaper. It's also not that dangerous if one is careful. I would intuitively rate it safer than a Skilsaw. I've also used a Variac. Laters, Paul "Where's the light switch?" asked Tome darkly. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1139941037.43f21ead35f13 [at] email.ixwebhosting.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:17:17 -0600 From: Bruce Cooper Subject: Expendables question Ladies and gentlemen: I've been trying to gather some information for a business plan, and at present I'm having a bit of trouble separating the wheat from the chaff in terms of information available. So, I figured, the best way to get accurate information is just to ask. Here goes: How much per year does your theatre spend on backstage safety products? i.e. running lites, cable ramps, glo tape, rope light, signage. If you reply, could you also tell me the relative size [in terms of dollars or seats] of your organization? Thanks so much. :Bruce Cooper -- LED Worklight Systems 847-445-2668 http://ledworklights.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1a0.45cd6574.3123810d [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:53:01 EST Subject: Re: Pictures In a message dated 14/02/06 00:43:17 GMT Standard Time, ZIRNGIRJ [at] uwec.edu writes: > My findings: > The Ektachrome provided for absolutely gorgeous pictures with vibrant color. > The extra exposure time did create a few problems with movement, but that > wasn't the worst problem when it came down it. My concern with the slide > film is I haven't been able to find anyone who can print them well in the > area, projected they look absolutely stunning with rich colors, then I bring > them in to get printed and every time they are washed out or very sloppy. If > I could find someone that I trusted with printing them I would feel confident > this would be my preferred method of photography. The trouble with slides is that they may not be the end product you need. Yes, if you want to show them to a gathering they are very good, but, as you say, getting prints from them is hard. It can be done, but requires a very expert lab to do it properly. A possible way round might be to re-photograph them on to print film, using a slide copying attachment for your camera. 3M used to do a 640ASA tungsten balanced slide film, which I have found to work better than pushed Ektachrome. > > The high speed film and filter provided deep and rich color (although not > completely accurate all of the time) and it seems that even and idiot can > print it fairly well, it is a bit grainy, but not all that bad (in the past > few years high speed films seem to have gotten much better with lessoning the > grainy quality). This is most likely the method I will be using for the next > few years, until I find another way. I changed to this some time ago, as it is a whole lot more convenient when you want to show your work. Personally, I find an 82B filter better, although most things come up a bit too orange. I use Kodak Royal 1000ASA, and tell my camera that it's 1800ASA. This compensates for the higher contrast of stage lighting. The nice thing is that you can still use a real camera. > > The digital camera worked surprisingly well. I, for one, HATE digital > cameras, I think they are the devil and kill a lot of the poetry of > photographic imagery, but I will admit all of the shots I used for my > portfolio from this show came from the digital camera I used. I probably > would continue shooting with one, but I was lent the camera that I used and > don't know that I could afford my own at this point in my career (plus I will > always have a soft spot in my heart for film and am going to try to cling to > that as long as I can). The problem with digital cameras is that unless you pay an arm and a leg, you wind up withe a maximum aperture of perhaps f/2.8 to f/3.5. This is OK for a brightly lit scene, but for dimmer scenes, not. I don't see how they likk the poetry: that is a matter of composition, rather than of the storage medium. They have onbig advantage in that they allow you to be trigger-happy, at no extra cost. I can shoot 200 and more frames, transfer them to my computer, review them, and throw away all the bad ones. If I need prints, they are easy: if not I burn a CD, and file it, making prints later if and when I want them. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Alex Curry" Subject: Touring Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:03:47 -0500 Hey. I'm going to attend USITT for the first time. Any advice on how to get around and the things you think would really be worth doing? Also, I'm interested in eventually touring with either a play production or a concert. Will there be anyone at USITT that I could talk to or get some advice from on how to break into that arena? Thanks for your help. Alex Curry ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <233.6e2b6dd.31238522 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:10:26 EST Subject: Re: Stage Beer In a message dated 14/02/06 14:35:34 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > Jaegerschnitzetl is by definition, pork. Wienerschnitzel is veal. And > Italian veal parm is a poor substitute for good wienerschnitzel. I can't really agree. Schnitzels and escalopes are theoretically the same thing. Note the theoretically! When cooked, they are 1/4" thick or less, tender, and succulent. All the best ones I have had have had an Italian hand in them. My butcher in France cuts them straight, rather than on the bias, and far too thick. An English butcher doesn't even know what veal is, as a rule. But, in Italy, you will see trays of the real thing in the shop window. The 'jaeger' simply means a heavy mushroom sauce dumped on top, as a rule. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <84c790f30602141143v2c7b871bw111e877f58398cd [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:43:51 -0500 From: Shawn King Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... In-Reply-To: References:

At a chain restaraunt in Amarillo, Texas, they considered Shiner Boch an import beer. Shiner, brewed at the Spoetzl Brewery in Shiner, TX. Now I would be willing to pay import prices for it up here in NYC.... On 2/14/06, Herrick Goldman wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > Well if they made good beer...... > > It's like the troubles Detroit had in the 70's. (barring Dodge of course) > > On a more disturbing note. I entered a local watering hole last night to > find a new Monday night special of $20 all you can drink domestic beer fr= om > 8-10pm. I was psyched. I ordered up a Sam Adams and was charged $6. I was > then told that Sam didn't count as domestic!!! > > > What??!!! When did Boston Secede? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:46:53 -0700 From: Davy Davis Subject: Re: Pictures In-reply-to: Message-id: <43F233AD.3020500 [at] du.edu> Organization: DU Theatre References: I have moved entirely to digital and am very happy with the move. Most of the time I am looking at putting the pictures up on the web. (see http://www.du.edu/thea/designs/Design-HenryVI.htm) For this production I shot 500 images over the final two rehearsals and for opening night had already converted the best 180 to small jpeg images, put them into an auto-playing pdf slide show, duplicated 25 copies and gave them to the cast as opening night gifts. I did not pay "an arm and a leg" for the camera (A Nikon D70) but did pay a lot for a 24-70mm zoom lens with a f2.8 maximum aperture. So many of the shows I've taken over the years with slide film, the slides just sit in the boxes most of the time. Davy -- William Temple (Davy) Davis; Chair Department of Theatre University of Denver wdavis [at] du.edu 303-871-3164 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:00:10 -0800 Subject: Re: Pictures From: James Feinberg In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <80A94325-9D94-11DA-BFDA-00039367B7D4 [at] sandiego.edu> I'll second the recommendation for the Nikon D70. I've shot several shows using the basic zoom that came in the "kit" with great results. I set the ASA/ISO equivalent to around 800, spin the exposure compensation dial up a few clicks, and then usually leave everything else in full auto mode. I tend to shoot from a tripod, but occasional freehand shots have come out well, too. There's a bit of grain with the fast "film" speed, but I'm happy with the trade-off, especially since I mostly show the pictures online or in small inkjet prints (as opening night gifts). The full-res pictures (off CD-ROM) have been running as the screen saver on the department office computer, and they look fabulous on the 17" LCD from across the desk. If you'd like to see for yourself, check out the current season and the 2004-2005 season at http://www.sandiego.edu/~feinberg/theatre/ --James Feinberg University of San Diego On Tuesday, February 14, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Davy Davis wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have moved entirely to digital and am very happy with the move. > Most of the time I am looking at putting the pictures up on the web. > (see http://www.du.edu/thea/designs/Design-HenryVI.htm) For this > production I shot 500 images over the final two rehearsals and for > opening night had already converted the best 180 to small jpeg images, > put them into an auto-playing pdf slide show, duplicated 25 copies and > gave them to the cast as opening night gifts. I did not pay "an arm > and a leg" for the camera (A Nikon D70) but did pay a lot for a > 24-70mm zoom lens with a f2.8 maximum aperture. > So many of the shows I've taken over the years with slide film, the > slides just sit in the boxes most of the time. > Davy > -- > William Temple (Davy) Davis; Chair > Department of Theatre > University of Denver > wdavis [at] du.edu > 303-871-3164 > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43F238F7.1060802 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:09:27 -0500 From: Barney Simon Reply-To: Barney [at] JosephCHansen.com Organization: Joseph C Hansen Co., Inc Subject: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant Okay, I have just seen the drawing for a production of "Carousel," designed by a graduate of a prestigious theatre design graduate school. They remind me a lot of the drawings I have seen for productions of "Annie Get Your Gun." The several productions that I can think of all have the tent/signs/drapes looking old and ragged. The colors are all headed into sepia land. Did they not have new stuff in color a hundred years ago? These designs have all looked like the designer believes that people all dressed and decorated in only sepias tones! This makes no since to me. Anyone have any thoughts on the logic? -- Barney Simon JC Hansen Co., Inc Drapes Drops and Dance Floors 423 West 43rd Street, NYC 212-246-8055 F:212-246-8189 JCHansen.com 866-988-8055 ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:46:39 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9B49 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" Cc: Barney [at] JosephCHansen.com > The several productions that I can think of all have the=20 > tent/signs/drapes looking old and ragged. The colors are all headed=20 > into sepia land. Did they not have new stuff in color a=20 > hundred years=20 > ago? These designs have all looked like the designer believes that=20 > people all dressed and decorated in only sepias tones! This makes no=20 > since to me. The following, as (almost) always, is strictly IMHO, and is written with reference to the unnamed masses that aren't on this list. Does that cover me? A lot of the "name" shows dating up until the late 1970s/early 1980s have passed or are beginning to pass into a fuzzy realm of collective memory now. People are at least passingly familiar with them; in many cases, people are also passingly familiar with some famous set design, whether that be from Broadway or a national tour or film. There's always a danger in completely rethinking something original for a piece like this, because if you jar the audience too much from the get-go visually, it's ouften tough to keep their interest for the remainder of the show. You're also liable to get complaints in many cases, and for longer runs that aren't at well-funded institutions (or companies with a reputation for pushing the envelope) that can translate into a loss at the box office. So producers/directors (and, by extension, designers) often play it safe and rely on the tried-and-true. At the same time, it's often NOT just a question of playing it safe, but realizing that certain scripts scream out for a certain specific treatment. Other times, people don't do their homework, or for any one of a number of possible reasons choose not to (or are unable to) make that extra effort to find something that'll work that is original. Original is expensive--if not in capital, then in time. I almost ended up designing Carousel many years ago, and I don't recall ever pondering a jump into sepia-land. Take that how you will. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <5010550D-E4CE-4A2A-9794-9FDE8D7E7C1A [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: spike marks Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:05:08 -0500 > 1' square floor tiles. They simply gaff taped > the whole tile down where they wanted them, so they could re-use them > wherever they performed. Seemed like a clever idea to me. On that note I had a dance company that used three rolls of glow tape to number the front of the stage each year. After watching touring shows come in I suggested they find a scrap strip of dance floor and tape it permanently on the strip and gaff that down each year. Saves three dance instructors about an hour a year. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield High School ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:27:54 -0500 From: Richard Beam Subject: Oklahoma! drops needed Message-id: <6A2F9A8D-C406-44E0-ACB0-7C2ACD5991E9 [at] wcu.edu> Okay, I screwed up! I thought this would be easier than it has turned out to be. Western Carolina University, Cullowhee, NC, needs to rent some drops, legs, etc. for a production of Oklahoma! coming up on March 23 - 26. We would like to have them in house about March 13 for rigging and rehearsal. What we need is a "farmland" drop (preferably with no buildings) as the basic background for the show and a "wooded glade" portal (legs and a border are fine) and, preferably a pair of "tree" legs to use in various scenes including with the "wooded glade scene (the big dance "dream scene." The stage opening is 40 feet wide and we would need a height of around 20 feet. Good quality and reasonable rates are needed. I have tried the obvious choices for rentals and turn to the list for help. Anyone got ideas? If you have something we might rent, please contact me directly at beamr [at] email.wcu.edu. Send rates, sizes and pictures (if possible). Hoping someone has a solution for this problem, Richard S. Beam Director of Theatre Production Western Carolina University Cullowhee, NC, 28723 ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1ef.4bd7ead1.3123abf8 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:56:08 EST Subject: Re: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant barney [at] JosephCHansen.com writes: << These designs have all looked like the designer believes that people all dressed and decorated in only sepias tones! This makes no since to me. >> Did you talk with the designer? Carousel isn't exactly a comedy - so I can understand the choice from that aspect. He doesn't have first hand knowledge of the time/location so he's needing to go on what others have done before him. What does the director think? Or are you just having a bad day and needed to vent to friends? Kristi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:51:26 -0500 From: Tony Kambic Subject: RE: We're in trouble when... In-reply-to: Message-id: <000001c631b9$2fc92520$09bc5743 [at] tony> It seems most bars these days most bars are calling anything over 100 miles (in a 3500 mile-long country) away an 'import,' with a few exceptions of course. I remember: -Yunegling as an import in DC (200 mi) -Rolling Rock being an import in New York, unless I'm going to the wrong bar (340 mi) -Samuel Adams as an import in Pittsburgh (600 mi) -Shiner Boch as an import in Orlando, but that over 1000 mi. 'Domestic' these days seems to refer to cheap beer, or water (aka Bud Lite) Tony Kambic Electronics & Lighting Technician New York, NY > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Herrick > Goldman > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:00 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > [snip] > On a more disturbing note. I entered a local watering hole last night to > find a new Monday night special of $20 all you can drink domestic beer > from > 8-10pm. I was psyched. I ordered up a Sam Adams and was charged $6. I was > then told that Sam didn't count as domestic!!! > > > What??!!! When did Boston Secede? > [snip] > Herrick Goldman > Lighting Designer, NYC > www.HGLightingDesign.com > 917-797-3624 > "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in > light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1964cf3b0602141517s12684c25t5623988d99be9c7b [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:17:21 -0500 From: David Carrico Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... In-Reply-To: References:

WHAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT! BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN' YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT! AND THE STONES F-IN ROCK. -- Dave Carrico New York Metropolitan Area ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <19d.4561d514.3123c007 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:21:43 EST Subject: Re: Pictures In a message dated 14/02/06 19:52:16 GMT Standard Time, wdavis [at] du.edu writes: > I did not pay "an arm and a leg" for > the camera (A Nikon D70) but did pay a lot for a 24-70mm zoom lens with > a f2.8 maximum aperture. I was talking of the really serious digital cameras, with interchangeable lenses from the manufacturer's range. Myself, I have an Olympus C2100, with a f/2.8 - f/3.5 lens, and an incredible optical zoom range. 7-70mm, which is 35-350mm in 35mm terms. but f/2.8 is too small if you are shooting han-held, or even with a monopod. For my old 35mm camera, I use f/1.8 lenses, changing them as needed. > So many of the shows I've taken over the years with slide film, the > slides just sit in the boxes most of the time. They do. I have several boxes. I also have dozens of print albums, but these can be scanned, and put on the web. See ' photobucket ' under my name. I did find a use for my slides when I was teaching stage lighting, some years ago. They are better in a class, and I still have a couple of magazines worth for this. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: "Ash Munro" Subject: RE: We're in trouble when... Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:52:29 -0500 Message-ID: <017d01c631c1$bd4f0740$6403a8c0 [at] charlottedt> In-Reply-To: >At a chain restaraunt in Amarillo, Texas, they considered Shiner Boch >an import beer. Shiner, brewed at the Spoetzl Brewery in Shiner, TX. > >Now I would be willing to pay import prices for it up here in NYC.... We're swimming in it here on Charlotte, and at reasonable prices, unless = you try to buy one at Neighborhood Theater, $4.50 a bottle. The grocery = stores even carry the Shiner Heff. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm beer. Ash Munro =20 =20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43F26DDF.4040206 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:55:11 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Pictures References: In-Reply-To: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > The problem with digital cameras is that unless you pay an arm and a leg, you > wind up withe a maximum aperture of perhaps f/2.8 to f/3.5. Get used to digital, though. The major camera manufacturers have severely cut back on the number of film cameras they produce. I figure in five years, maybe ten, you won't be able to find a roll of film except at a very few specialty shops. -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:18:43 -0500 Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: So. I'm sitting at an outdoor caf=E9 in Leicester Square in London, waiting to see a show. The waitperson comes over and ask "Would you like a beer?" I say "sure, whatcha got?" He says "we have Budweiser and Stella." to which I respond..... "I thought you asked me if I wanted a beer?" Sigh. He didn't get it. =20 I had a gin and tonic. ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "chip.a.wood" Subject: RE: We're in trouble when... Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:31:31 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Rough day at tech? I had to buy a case of Coors Light to get a $50 rebate on my gas grill. It took two parties and a work day to get rid of it. Chip > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of David > Carrico > > WHAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT! BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN' > YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT! > > AND THE STONES F-IN ROCK. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:08:40 -0500 From: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... In-Reply-To: References:

On 2/14/06, David Carrico wrote: > WHAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT! BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN' > YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT! Life is too short.....to drink cheap beer. Brian Munroe bpmuroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:55:14 -0500 Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: You mean it's NOT "IRISH"!!! Ohmigod! On 2/14/06 12:33 PM, "Paul Schreiner" wrote: > > A local/small regional restaurant chain offers specials on "domestic > pitchers". But Killian's (brewed by Coors, mind you) is considered an > import. > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:04:46 -0500 Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Nope..... On 2/14/06 6:17 PM, "David Carrico" wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > WHAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT! BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN' > YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT! > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1139969130.43f28c6aa262a [at] mail.opentransfer.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:05:30 -0600 From: Bruce Cooper Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... References:

In-Reply-To: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > On 2/14/06, David Carrico wrote: > > > WHAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT! BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN' > > YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT! > > Life is too short.....to drink cheap beer. Life is too short, and too hard, not to drink free beer. :Bruce Cooper ------------------------------ Message-ID: <007601c631d5$03da21a0$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" References:

Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:10:38 -0700 If you pay my per diem , hotel, and flight expense there and back, I'd let you buy me a Bud Light. Then... I would buy you a Guinness... I Need the Flyer miles Robert Riddle Will Disagree for the Sake of Discussion Will Discuss for the Sake of Learning ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Carrico" >HAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT! BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN' >YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT! ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:30:21 -0500 From: Paul Schreiner Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... In-Reply-To: References:

> > WHAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT! BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN' > > YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT! Frank, you don't have a cousin on this side of the pond, do you? (Actually, Frank's got MUCH better taste in beverages.) And no, I don't drink Bud Light (or any other light "beer") unless my choice comes down to that or lukewarm skanky tapwater. And even then, only if it were free, or I was trying to be a gracious guest. I'm a beer snob and proud of it. Started getting that way when I got into homebrewing. Worked long and hard to sample as many different styles and brands (over 400 unique bottles in the collection and counting) as I have. Wish I had the time and the funds to sample at the rate I used to, though! And for the record, I do like the Stones. Well, their music anyway.=20 Back when they recorded it. At least there are still some acts (Michelle Kwan?) who know when it's time to bow out gracefully and stop milking it... > Life is too short.....to drink cheap beer. That's the slogan for Warsteiner. Love it...the slogan, anyway. The beer's pretty tasty, too, though it wouldn't come close to cracking my 'A'-list. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:32:43 -0500 From: Paul Schreiner Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... In-Reply-To: References:

> It seems most bars these days most bars are calling anything over 100 mil= es > (in a 3500 mile-long country) away an 'import,' with a few exceptions of > course. I've noticed more and more calling the real beers "domestic premium", and charging the same as an import for them. Must have something to do with the giant macrobreweries and the distributors and such, and the deals the restaurants/bars get for BudMillCoors. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:34:15 -0500 From: Paul Schreiner Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... In-Reply-To: References:

At least I think I can say with some authority that there won't be ANYONE on this list who is gonna be of the opinion that this conversation is "off-topic". ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001901c631d8$850a9cc0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Pictures Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:35:44 -0800 > I have moved entirely to digital and am very happy with the move. I agree completely with Davy Davis.... I have sold off all my "analogue" 35mm equipment (and the darkroom), and am very happy with the Canon Digital Rebel. I don't use the 'stock' cheapy lens - I too have invested the value of a couple of extremities in a couple of excellent fast lenses (and boy, are they bigger pieces of glass, compared to their 35mm counterparts!). Learning to get great digital photos took some practice, and tricks like knowing when/how much to underexpose a shot (and bend the exposure curves in Photoshop) come with time. I've had a lot of great pics.... check out some of the more recent shows at my website (under Production Photos). - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002d01c631d9$3300ea00$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:40:35 -0800 > WHAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT! BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN' > YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT! > > AND THE STONES F-IN ROCK. ...And with respect, I'd pass on your generosity. :) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980602141856y3165ccebn16112d998b56a8b [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:56:14 -0500 From: Scott Parker Subject: Plastic 12" globe supplier Greetings, I'm trying to find a 12" globe. My designer wants a clear sphere to go on top of a lamp post. The unit needs to fit in a space shallower the the 12" so I want to cut it in half and just use the front half. So, I'm looking for either a 12" plastic globe, or a round plastic bowl of some sort. The problem is most bowls have a flat bottom that might not read correctly. Any suppliers come to mind???? Thanks, Scott -- Take care, Scott =09Scott C. Parker =09Professor/Technical Director =09Dept. of Performing Arts =09Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University =09Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F =09Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza =09New York, NY 10038 =09212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ From: "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" Subject: RE: Plastic 12" globe supplier Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:14:32 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c631dd$f1632d60$0300a8c0 [at] Roadbox> In-Reply-To: Scott, Locally, I would try www.canalplasticscenter.com, or any of the other industrial scrap guys who may still be in operation on Canal Street. If = that doesn't pan out try www.outwater.com. Good luck. - J.Minh ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.0.10.0.20060214222201.01e5eb38 [at] insightbb.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:24:58 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Plastic 12" globe supplier In-Reply-To: References: A quick Google search revealed: http://www.globalplastics.ca/domes.htm It appears that they may have EXACTLY what you want. Mike At 09:56 PM 2/14/2006, Scott Parker wrote: >I'm trying to find a 12" globe. My designer wants a clear sphere to go ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: gregg hillmar Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:49:41 -0500 On Feb 14, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Shawn King wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > At a chain restaraunt in Amarillo, Texas, they considered Shiner Boch > an import beer. Shiner, brewed at the Spoetzl Brewery in Shiner, TX. > > Now I would be willing to pay import prices for it up here in NYC.... same here... Shiner got me through tough times in grad school in Austin. I miss the Shiner Boch draft! g. _____________________ gregg hillmar scenic & lighting design portfolio & life as we know it: http://www.hillmardesign.com "Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching." Satchel Paige ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43F2B42C.7060701 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:55:08 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... References:

In-Reply-To: Bruce Cooper wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> On 2/14/06, David Carrico wrote: >> >>> WHAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT! BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN' >>> YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT! >> >> Life is too short.....to drink cheap beer. > > > Life is too short, and too hard, not to drink free beer. > > :Bruce Cooper > > > > > The Dutch method of searching for extraterrestrial life. http://www.lookatentertainment.com/v/v-1206.htm --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <26414779.1139988749052.JavaMail.root [at] elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:32:29 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Reply-To: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Subject: Re: spike marks Using that much glow tape for anything seems to be rather....well, a bit over the top. A minute or two on Google resulted in: http://tinyurl.com/8lfgj Not sure if it's the best source.....but I've seen big glow-in-the-dark number stickers on a couple occasions (though honestly, NEVER onstage--must be able to read by that much glow tape!!!) It doesn't store quite as well as a roll of dance floor, but I've seen numbers done on 1'x8' black painted maso strips that are screwed/finish nailed/taped to the deck just DS of the dance floor. Tape/stick on numbers would last longer this way (and you could put poly over them. --Sean Sean R. McCarthy seanrmc [at] earthlink.net -----Original Message----- >From: Greg Bierly > >On that note I had a dance company that used three rolls of glow tape >to number the front of the stage each year. After watching touring >shows come in I suggested they find a scrap strip of dance floor and >tape it permanently on the strip and gaff that down each year. Saves >three dance instructors about an hour a year. > >Greg Bierly >Technical Director >Hempfield High School ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1181.208.51.52.78.1139991471.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:17:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Pictures From: "Bill Nelson" >> wasn't the worst problem when it came down it. My concern with the >> slide >> film is I haven't been able to find anyone who can print them well in >> the >> area, projected they look absolutely stunning with rich colors, then I > bring >> them in to get printed and every time they are washed out or very >> sloppy. One problem with going from slide to prints is that prints cannot handle the contrast range that slides produce. The other problem is that reflected colors are not as rich and intense as those produced by transmitted light. You can get good copies by going to a custom lab, but expect to spend a lot of money. Getting the best possible image from a slide may require many trials, and the paper is expensive. There are two ways to make a copy. One is using an internegative, which is used to make the print on normal color printing paper. The other is to use color reversal paper. The former allows more control, but is more expensive. Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #692 *****************************