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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 27656869; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:01:17 -0800 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RECEIVED, NO_RELAYS,TJ_EMPTY_SUBJECT autolearn=no version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Level: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #693 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:00:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #693 1. Re: We're in trouble when... by Bill Sapsis 2. Re: We're in trouble when... by "Nigel Worsley" 3. Re: spike marks by "LES LIND" 4. Re: If your bored by JSADLER 5. Re: Spike Marks by 6. Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT by Rick Malone 7. Re: Spike Marks by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 8. Re: Oklahoma! drops needed by Shelly A Ford 9. Re: We're in trouble when... by Mike Katz 10. Re: We're in trouble when... by "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" 11. Re: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant by Barney Simon 12. Re: spike marks by Greg Bierly 13. Re: Oklahoma! drops needed by Richard Beam 14. Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant by b Ricie 15. Re: Oklahoma! drops needed by SS 16. Re: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant by Barney Simon 17. Spike Marks -- sort of by "Randy B." 18. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 19. indoor pond by CB 20. Re: indoor pond by "Paul Schreiner" 21. Re: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant by "Zirngibl, Ryan John" 22. spike marks by CB 23. Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall by CB 24. Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall by CB 25. Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall by "Jon Lagerquist" 26. Tracking fence by "Zirngibl, Ryan John" 27. Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games by CB 28. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Jim Hyslop 29. We're in trouble when... by CB 30. Re: Stage Beer by CB 31. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Michael Heinicke 32. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Bill Sapsis 33. Re: We're in trouble when... by CB 34. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 35. Re: We're in trouble when... by CB 36. Re: We're in trouble when... by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 37. Re: Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 38. Re: Stage Beer by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 39. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Jim Hyslop 40. Re: Tracking fence by Davy Davis 41. Re: We're in trouble when... by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 42. Re: We're in trouble when... by Bill Sapsis 43. Re: Tracking fence by Bruce Purdy 44. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Bruce Purdy 45. Re: We're in trouble when... by "Simon Shuker" 46. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Greg Bierly 47. by "Norm Wigton" 48. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 49. Re: Spike Marks -- $Commercial Plug$ by Paul Puppo 50. Re: boxcar children images. by Phil Johnson 51. 1950's Gas Pumps by "Victor W. Smith" 52. Re: Tracking fence by "Zirngibl, Ryan John" 53. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Stephen Litterst 54. Cam-loks and turn arounds by "Victor W. Smith" 55. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Stephen Litterst 56. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 57. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 58. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Phil Genera 59. Re: Stage Beer by "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" 60. Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall by "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" 61. Re: spike marks by "RD" 62. Re: Tracking fence by Bruce Purdy 63. Re: 1950's Gas Pumps by "JUSTIN DAVID BENNETT" 64. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Jim Hyslop 65. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Bruce Purdy 66. Re: Spike Marks -- $Commercial Plug$ by Paul Puppo 67. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Steve Shelley 68. Re: 1950's Gas Pumps by "Matthew Breton" 69. Re: spike marks by Paul Guncheon 70. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by Dale Farmer 71. Re: Cam-loks and turn arounds by "Occy" 72. Re: Halation in profile spots by "Bill Nelson" 73. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by seanrmc [at] earthlink.net 74. Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games by "Bill Nelson" 75. Re: We're in trouble when... by "Bill Nelson" 76. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by "Bill Nelson" 77. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:40:09 -0500 Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Dibs on the bar stool on the right. On 2/14/06 11:55 PM, "Dale Farmer" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >> > The Dutch method of searching for extraterrestrial life. > > http://www.lookatentertainment.com/v/v-1206.htm > > --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <95be01c63229$f126fd30$0c00a8c0 [at] Nigellaptop> From: "Nigel Worsley" References:

Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:18:32 -0000 "Bruce Cooper" wrote: > > On 2/14/06, David Carrico wrote: > > > > > WHAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT! BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN' > > > YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT! > > > > Life is too short.....to drink cheap beer. > > > Life is too short, and too hard, not to drink free beer. True, but does Bud light count a beer? Of course, being a real-ale drinking brit I don't count much of your American stuff as beer! Nigel Worsley ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:00:45 -0500 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: spike marks Thanks to all the suggestions for spike marks. I'll try laying 2 inch clear Marley and 2 inch packaging tape over the spike tape to see which one works best on our stage. Marley tape $5, packing tape free (district bought) Les Les Lind Northeastern High School Manchester, PA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:07:54 -0600 Subject: Re: If your bored From: JSADLER Message-ID: In-Reply-To: This is evil......I LOVE IT!!!!! > From: "Maurice Moe Conn" > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 04:47:38 +0000 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: If your bored > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > try this out > > http://www.winterrowd.com/maze.swf > > Moe > > Help support Long Reach Long Riders 2006 Charity Ride. For Donation and/or > Rider information, Check out: www.lrlr.org > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000901c63236$e240acf0$0600a8c0 [at] lpt> From: References: Subject: Re: Spike Marks Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:51:12 -0600 Organization: Minnesota Ballet I use home-made LED's from rat-shack at the front of the stage. I got a huge kick out of hearing the director shortly after I made them refer to "quarter stage" as "stand on blue". It's been called that ever since. Toolsforstagecraft.com has led spikes, but I still find it cheaper to make your own. As far as further up stage, I always put a clear dance tape over spike and glow tapes. Kenneth Pogin Production Manager Minnesota Ballet ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060215140026.98650.qmail [at] web80507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:00:25 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Malone Subject: Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT Chris wrote: <> Unhh, geography lesson: Schwabia is a region generally East of Bavaria. Stuttgart is in the center. Bayreuth is a city in the State of Bavaria. Bavarians and Schwabians are different, sort of like the difference between folks in Georgia and Texas. In the 60's when I first went to Germany, all schnitzel was veal. In the mid 80's when I went back it was mostly pork regardless of the variety. I recall my first Wienerschnitzel in the '63 at a small Austrian Gasthaus in the Alps. Larger that most gourmet pizzas and melt in your mouth. Haven't had one like it since. Rick Malone ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Spike Marks Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:09:28 -0500 Message-ID: <002e01c63239$6f71ee20$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: =20 > I use home-made LED's from rat-shack at the front of the=20 > stage. I do that as well (although I use neons rather than LEDs). A small = piece of white gaffers' tape in front of them really makes them visible to the dancers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:15:04 -0500 (EST) From: Shelly A Ford Subject: Re: Oklahoma! drops needed Message-id: <743166.1140012904555.JavaMail.sford4 [at] aug.edu> You found nothing at Tobins Lake Studios? Richard Beam wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Okay, I screwed up! I thought this would be easier than it has >turned out to be. > >Western Carolina University, Cullowhee, NC, needs to rent some drops, >legs, etc. for a production of Oklahoma! coming up on March 23 - 26. >We would like to have them in house about March 13 for rigging and >rehearsal. > >What we need is a "farmland" drop (preferably with no buildings) as >the basic background for the show and a "wooded glade" portal (legs >and a border are fine) and, preferably a pair of "tree" legs to use >in various scenes including with the "wooded glade scene (the big >dance "dream scene." > >The stage opening is 40 feet wide and we would need a height of >around 20 feet. > >Good quality and reasonable rates are needed. > >I have tried the obvious choices for rentals and turn to the list for >help. Anyone got ideas? > >If you have something we might rent, please contact me directly at >beamr [at] email.wcu.edu. Send rates, sizes and pictures (if possible). > >Hoping someone has a solution for this problem, > >Richard S. Beam >Director of Theatre Production >Western Carolina University >Cullowhee, NC, 28723 > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <7cd95e180602150617k6d7f10a9ue692563506a1ead6 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:17:25 -0500 From: Mike Katz Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... In-Reply-To: References: Boston seceeded When Bush got and got elected. :-) Mike On 2/14/06, Herrick Goldman wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Well if they made good beer...... > > It's like the troubles Detroit had in the 70's. (barring Dodge of course) > > On a more disturbing note. I entered a local watering hole last night to > find a new Monday night special of $20 all you can drink domestic beer fr= om > 8-10pm. I was psyched. I ordered up a Sam Adams and was charged $6. I was > then told that Sam didn't count as domestic!!! > > > What??!!! When did Boston Secede? > > While I'm typing...Many thanks to Brian Aldous who came out on Saturday a= nd > again on Sunday to help with my load in and strike for Broadway Cares. > Also to David Empey of ETC NY who even dragged his wife along to help foc= us > Altman Shakespeare units. :) > > -H > > > > > > On 2/14/06 10:26 AM, "Jerry Durand" wrote: > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > ...people stop drinking beer (or in this case, beer-like substance). > > > > " > > Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc., the nation's biggest brewer, said Wednesday > > its fourth-quarter profit plunged 39.5 percent from a year ago. > > " > > http://tinyurl.com/7mz4k > > > > Must have been all that talk of fruit-beer. > > > > -- > > Jerry Durand > > Durand Interstellar, Inc. > > Los Gatos, California, USA > > www.interstellar.com > > > > > > > > -- > Herrick Goldman > Lighting Designer, NYC > www.HGLightingDesign.com > 917-797-3624 > "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and i= n > light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS > > > -- Mike Katz Technical Director MIT Theater Arts 617.253.0824 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002c01c6323d$0450b5f0$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" References: Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:35:06 -0700 And could very well end up being a record setting length for a thread topic . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Schreiner" >At least I think I can say with some authority that there won't be >ANYONE on this list who is gonna be of the opinion that this >conversation is "off-topic". ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43F342AE.3090202 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:03:10 -0500 From: Barney Simon Reply-To: Barney [at] JosephCHansen.com Organization: Joseph C Hansen Co., Inc Subject: Re: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant References: In-Reply-To: MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > Or are you just having a bad day and needed to vent to friends? I'm take that choice. -- Barney Simon JC Hansen Co., Inc Drapes Drops and Dance Floors 423 West 43rd Street, NYC 212-246-8055 F:212-246-8189 JCHansen.com 866-988-8055 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <5465FD8D-579D-4F55-B056-6082EFB9EDCF [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: spike marks Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:23:19 -0500 > (though honestly, NEVER onstage--must be able to read by that much > glow tape!!!) You don't know the half of it! They would buy a case of glow tape each year and use most of it. 5 full stage rows 40' (SL-SR) DS-US Dotted lines every 5'. a 16' diameter dotted circle and a full strip DR-UL marking a diagonal. This is on top of the annual glow tape numbers across the apron. Every blackout I expected some alien landing craft to appear. The student directors would block out about 6 hours just "spike" the stage. They have since cut back to 2 rolls a year. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:00:22 -0500 From: Richard Beam Subject: Re: Oklahoma! drops needed In-reply-to: Message-id: References: Actually they have exactly what I'd like to use, but they are all booked up and nothing I can use is available. RS Beam On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Shelly A Ford wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > You found nothing at Tobins Lake Studios? > > > > Richard Beam wrote: > > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > stagecraft.theprices.net/> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Okay, I screwed up! I thought this would be easier than it has >> turned out to be. >> >> Western Carolina University, Cullowhee, NC, needs to rent some drops, >> legs, etc. for a production of Oklahoma! coming up on March 23 - 26. >> We would like to have them in house about March 13 for rigging and >> rehearsal. >> >> What we need is a "farmland" drop (preferably with no buildings) as >> the basic background for the show and a "wooded glade" portal (legs >> and a border are fine) and, preferably a pair of "tree" legs to use >> in various scenes including with the "wooded glade scene (the big >> dance "dream scene." >> >> The stage opening is 40 feet wide and we would need a height of >> around 20 feet. >> >> Good quality and reasonable rates are needed. >> >> I have tried the obvious choices for rentals and turn to the list for >> help. Anyone got ideas? >> >> If you have something we might rent, please contact me directly at >> beamr [at] email.wcu.edu. Send rates, sizes and pictures (if possible). >> >> Hoping someone has a solution for this problem, >> >> Richard S. Beam >> Director of Theatre Production >> Western Carolina University >> Cullowhee, NC, 28723 >> >> >> ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060215160337.11719.qmail [at] web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:03:37 -0800 (PST) From: b Ricie Subject: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant In-Reply-To: I think that some designers,especially new designers, have comfortable pallet zones. They tend to pick colors that they know how to work with. Lack of research or experience is also a contribution factor,but I think it boils down to lack of confidence. Brian Rice 508-685-0716 b_ricie [at] yahoo.com "Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the light." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0602150826v619147a8x58fba62e155bd6a6 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:26:51 -0500 From: SS Subject: Re: Oklahoma! drops needed In-Reply-To: References: >>>>>>Western Carolina University, Cullowhee, NC, needs to rent some drops, legs, etc. for a production of Oklahoma! coming up on March 23 - 26. We would like to have them in house about March 13 for rigging and rehearsal. What we need is a "farmland" drop (preferably with no buildings) as the basic background for the show and a "wooded glade" portal (legs and a border are fine) and, preferably a pair of "tree" legs to use in various scenes including with the "wooded glade scene (the big dance "dream scene." I have tried the obvious choices for rentals and turn to the list for help. Anyone got ideas?<<<<<< Don't know if any of these are "obvious choices", and you'll have to sift through their catalogues respectively, but here's a few other options besides Tobin Lakes: http://www.schellscenic.com/rentals/backdrops/ http://www.atlasscenic.com/droplist.htm http://www.grosh.com/item_section.php?parentid=3D1 http://charleshstewart.com/cat.htm HTH. Good Luck -SS TTS-EKU ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43F359D1.80701 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:41:53 -0500 From: Barney Simon Reply-To: Barney [at] JosephCHansen.com Organization: Joseph C Hansen Co., Inc Subject: Re: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant References: In-Reply-To: b Ricie wrote: > Lack of research or experience is also a contribution > factor, I did hear the designer comment that all his research 'looked like that' (sepia and drab colors). I've seen the actual Wild West Show posters and they were not sepia (museum, Cody, WY). -- Barney Simon JC Hansen Co., Inc Drapes Drops and Dance Floors 423 West 43rd Street, NYC 212-246-8055 F:212-246-8189 JCHansen.com 866-988-8055 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00cc01c63252$206eb0b0$640aa8c0 [at] GLOBAL.SCJ.LOC> From: "Randy B." Subject: Spike Marks -- sort of Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:06:12 -0600 In one of the last messages I read in the "spike Mark' Thread I saw that someone was making there own LED on Battery type markers from Radio shack parts. I could not find the original message to contact this person directly, would it be possible to e-mail me the directions to build these. Randy ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Spike Marks -- sort of Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:19:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01c63254$08c1d440$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > In one of the last messages I read in the "spike Mark' > Thread I saw that someone was making there own LED on Battery > type markers from Radio shack parts. I could not find the > original message to contact this person directly, would it be > possible to e-mail me the directions to build these. Parts: 1- 9V battery clip 1- 9V battery 1- LED A. solder LED to battery clip. B. insert battery. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060215102915.00d1f708 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:29:15 From: CB Subject: indoor pond >It is indeed 1/3 from the >bottom, but not the bottom. What is? I think that there were points that pointed out the difference between the two discusions here that are happening simultaneously. One is discussing the maximum pressure against the wall of the pool (which is, of course, at the water that is undser all the other water, at the bottom of the pool; the other is the point at which the pressure has the most adverse effect on said side. Define the terms, then start an argument... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Subject: RE: indoor pond Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:34:55 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9B4B [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Define the terms, then start an argument... =20 Awww, but if you do that, oftentimes you don't end up with an argument (or at least one as defined by two parties espousing differing viewpoints)! Then again, you can get into a really good argument in the process of defining those terms... ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:35:40 -0600 Message-ID: <5CF1C3D95785A143A3E33ACFD864609B038346CD [at] PEPSI.uwec.edu> From: "Zirngibl, Ryan John" Cc: Barney [at] JosephCHansen.com <<<<<<<<< Lack of research or experience is also a contribution factor, I did hear the designer comment that all his research 'looked like that' (sepia and drab colors). I've seen the actual Wild West Show posters and they were not sepia (museum, Cody, WY).>>>>>> A few years ago there was a local director who decided she wanted to do Arsenic and Old Lace in black and white because "that's what the movie was". Painful. That's the only word I have to describe it. =20 Ryan J. Zirngibl University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire Student-Theatre Arts Scenic Designer ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060215103752.00d1f708 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:37:52 From: CB Subject: spike marks >I haven't tried >gaffers tape cause it seems a bit expensive for that use. Asked and answered... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060215104220.00d1f708 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:42:20 From: CB Subject: Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall >How much do the fish weigh? Abaout as much as the water they displace, give or take... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060215104621.00d1f708 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:46:21 From: CB Subject: RE: Indoor pond with a waterfall >(I helped build a large fountain that had >to roll on and off stage, you should have seen the casters and framing >under that thing) Ehm, it isn't teching in Tucson theis week, is it? If its the same fountain on casters, then it makes a super chain motor rinser! No need to even take them out of the air! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: "Jon Lagerquist" Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:46:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com Message-ID: <43F2F86A.22542.577FCF9 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: I have never seen one without a scale so I assume they are weighing things all the time. > > >How much do the fish weigh? > > Abaout as much as the water they displace, give or take... Jon Lagerquist Technical Director [at] South Coast Repertory Costa Mesa, CA ------------------------------ Subject: Tracking fence Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:56:46 -0600 Message-ID: <5CF1C3D95785A143A3E33ACFD864609B038346CE [at] PEPSI.uwec.edu> From: "Zirngibl, Ryan John" =20 So... I am planning on creating a fence that will replace the grand drape for the community theatre's next show, it will be closed preshow then open at the at the show's start. The thing is the proscenium is 40' wide and we have a grand totally of about 10-12' wing space, so I was thinking of creating two telescoping fences, one on each side of stage the telescoping units being two units of around 12'. Now that I've thought the idea up I need to actually figure out how to do it. I was wondering if anyone would have some suggestions on how to go about this. Budget is, of course, little more than the Snickers bar that I'm eating trying to figure this out. Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions. Ryan J. Zirngibl University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire Student-Theatre Arts Scenic Designer ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060215105648.00d1f708 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:56:48 From: CB Subject: Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games >Yeah. It is enough of a favorite to get live coverage - unfortuntely, it >started at something like 2 AM PST. Which means, of course, that this is the part of the Olympics that I got to see! The Americans beating the Norse was kinda cool... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43F36DD6.8010205 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:07:18 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of References: In-Reply-To: Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: > Parts: > > 1- 9V battery clip > 1- 9V battery > 1- LED > > A. solder LED to battery clip. > > B. insert battery. How long do these last before the LED blows because there's no limiting resistor? You're pumping 9 volts across a component designed for 1.6 volts. If you do put in a limiting resistor (470 ohms for a 9v battery gives about 15 mA, more than enough to light the LED brightly) it's dissipating 3/8 of a watt, so you'd have to use a pretty hefty resistor. I've used the clips that hold two AA batteries. That makes the limiting resistor about 100 ohms, and it only has to dissipate about 20 milliwatts. Much less stress on the components. The LED will last several weeks before you need to change batteries. Also, you have to make sure you get the polarity correct - solder the LED in backwards and it won't work. Just don't forget to collect them up before the strike, otherwise they disappear. -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060215111030.00d1f708 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:10:30 From: CB Subject: We're in trouble when... >...people stop drinking beer BUZZZZ! Wrong! The correct answer is "People stop drinking CRAPPY beer". Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060215111053.00d2c278 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:10:53 From: CB Subject: Re: Stage Beer >I can't really agree. 'Swhat I've been saying all along, Frank. >Schnitzels and escalopes are theoretically the same >thing. Note the theoretically! So, in other words, "yes, you are right". Go a head and say it, Frank, you'll feel better. I promise! 'Theoretically' means 'not really' in this case. >The 'jaeger' simply means a heavy mushroom sauce dumped on top, as a rule. 'Jaeger' means 'Hunter'. 'Wiener' translates to 'Vienna', 'schnitzel' to cutlet, 'wienerschnitzel' to 'Vienna Cutlet'. If veal were used in 'hunter cutlet', I'd be surprised. Not even Dick Cheney would be caught hunting veal. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060215181229.78683.qmail [at] web82213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:12:29 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of In-Reply-To: --- Jim Hyslop wrote: > How long do these last before the LED blows because > there's no limiting > resistor? You're pumping 9 volts across a component > designed for 1.6 > volts. If you do put in a limiting resistor (470 > ohms for a 9v battery > gives about 15 mA, more than enough to light the LED > brightly) it's > dissipating 3/8 of a watt, so you'd have to use a > pretty hefty resistor. > > I've used the clips that hold two AA batteries. That > makes the limiting > resistor about 100 ohms, and it only has to > dissipate about 20 > milliwatts. Much less stress on the components. The > LED will last > several weeks before you need to change batteries. > > Also, you have to make sure you get the polarity > correct - solder the > LED in backwards and it won't work. > > Just don't forget to collect them up before the > strike, otherwise they > disappear. We haven't used them for a show yet, but we just built some at work. We purchased a couple of 2 AA battery cases from Mouser that have enough room to insert a 3v LED also purchased from Mouser. We ordered cases that include a power switch, but they sent us the wrong ones. Either way, with the 3v LED it is just connected directly to the power terminals. That simplifies things a little. We'll see how they work.... Mike Heinicke ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:14:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Where do they go? Bill (not one to pass on an opening) S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 2/15/06 1:07 PM, "Jim Hyslop" wrote: > Just don't forget to collect them up before the strike, otherwise they > disappear. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060215111843.00d2c278 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:18:43 From: CB Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... >WHAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT! BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN' >YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT! Pay up. I once built a kegerator out of parts that were lying in my backyard, and got a quarter barrel from a friend to test it with. He gave me the Bud Light. Hey, He gave it to me and I told him it was for a test. We had bit of a party with some of my drinking buddies over, and no one touched it. Life is too short to drink crap beer. Or eat crap food, or drink crap coffee, or drink crap whiskey, or smoke crap cigars. I'm not a snob, I just figure if I'm going to die of something, it had better be worth it. I'd feel lik an idiot going to the emergency room and having the doc tell my kin that it was the MacDonalds and Bud Lite that killed me... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <21b.824afb9.3124cb43 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:21:55 EST Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of In a message dated 15/02/06 17:20:35 GMT Standard Time, stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com writes: > 1- 9V battery clip > 1- 9V battery > 1- LED > > A. solder LED to battery clip. > > B. insert battery. C. Find another LED. D. Insert a current limiting resistor in the circuit. LEDs re current operated devices, and drop about 2V across the junction, as a rule. Applying a 9V battery will destroy them. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060215112234.00d2c278 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:22:34 From: CB Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... >He says "we have Budweiser and Stella." to >which I respond..... > >"I thought you asked me if I wanted a beer?" EEK! The Budweiser could very well have been an actual Czeck Bud, and it would have been an excellent choice, and the Steella Artois is a very fine beer. Although I have no argument with the G&T, why'dja pass up the Stella? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1df.4c30b076.3124cc2f [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:25:51 EST Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... In a message dated 15/02/06 02:41:13 GMT Standard Time, jonares [at] hevanet.com writes: > ...And with respect, I'd pass on your generosity. :) Isn't there a typo in there, somewhere? ;) Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1f3.1b93e4f8.3124cc32 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:25:54 EST Subject: Re: Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT In a message dated 15/02/06 14:01:03 GMT Standard Time, rickmalone [at] sbcglobal.net writes: > Unhh, geography lesson: Schwabia is a region > generally East of Bavaria. Stuttgart is in the > center. Bayreuth is a city in the State of Bavaria. > Bavarians and Schwabians are different, sort of like > the difference between folks in Georgia and Texas. Get your compass seen to. East of Bavaria is either Austria or the Czech Republic. Stuttgart is well to the West. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1e4.4c3e0752.3124ccfc [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:29:16 EST Subject: Re: Stage Beer In a message dated 15/02/06 18:12:01 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > 'Jaeger' means 'Hunter'. 'Wiener' translates to 'Vienna', 'schnitzel' to > cutlet, 'wienerschnitzel' to 'Vienna Cutlet'. If veal were used in > 'hunter cutlet', I'd be surprised. Not even Dick Cheney would be caught > hunting veal. My German is ip to that. And, who hunts pork? Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43F37332.1040706 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:30:10 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of References: In-Reply-To: Bill Sapsis wrote: > Where do they go? I wish I knew. Since they're relatively small, I suspect they get swept up with the debris. Either that, or whoever pulls them off doesn't know where to put them, so they get put who-knows-where. -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:30:33 -0700 From: Davy Davis Subject: Re: Tracking fence In-reply-to: Message-id: <43F37349.7030508 [at] du.edu> Organization: DU Theatre References: The simplest way is to use two curtain tracks one upstage of the other and put two fence sections on each one. Davy Zirngibl, Ryan John wrote: > creating two telescoping fences, one on each side of stage the > telescoping units being two units of around 12'. Now that I've thought > the idea up I need to actually figure out how to do it. I was wondering > if anyone would have some suggestions on how to go about this. -- William Temple (Davy) Davis; Chair Department of Theatre University of Denver wdavis [at] du.edu 303-871-3164 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <19a.459f2272.3124ced0 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:37:04 EST Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... In a message dated 15/02/06 18:23:36 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > EEK! The Budweiser could very well have been an actual Czeck Bud, and it > would have been an excellent choice, and the Steella Artois is a very fine > beer. Although I have no argument with the G&T, why'dja pass up the Stella? Well, an awful lot of beer is brewed away from its home under licence. Stella is one that I know of, and the English version is different. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:46:58 -0500 Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: The Bud was not Czeck Bud. And the Stella? We have different tastes in beer, it seems. Maybe we should compare notes this summer. I hear a rumor you might be joining us? Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 2/15/06 11:22 AM, "CB" wrote: > EEK! The Budweiser could very well have been an actual Czeck Bud, and it > would have been an excellent choice, and the Steella Artois is a very fine > beer. Although I have no argument with the G&T, why'dja pass up the Stella? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:00:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Tracking fence From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > I am planning on creating a fence that will replace the grand drape for > the community theatre's next show, it will be closed preshow then open > at the at the show's start. What kind of a "Fence"? Chain link? Picket? Split rail? Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:12:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Jim Hyslop wrote: > Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: >> Parts: >> >> 1- 9V battery clip >> 1- 9V battery >> 1- LED >> >> A. solder LED to battery clip. >> >> B. insert battery. > > How long do these last before the LED blows because there's no limiting > resistor? You're pumping 9 volts across a component designed for 1.6 > volts. I have built several of these units. Radio Shack sells a limited variety of 12v LEDs, which work fine on the used 9v batteries I have taken out of the wireless mikes. (I think the LEDs have some kind of resistor built in to them.) I simply buy a 9v battery clip, drill a hole in the centre between the terminals to hold the LED, and solder the leads to each terminal. (I cut off the wires that came on the clip.) A dance company came through recently with three such 12vdc LEDs wired in along a length of zip cord, which was connected to a 12v wall wart. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ From: "Simon Shuker" Subject: RE: We're in trouble when... Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:12:30 +0400 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20060215191240.6CA025A50 [at] mail05.powweb.com> Stella also known as wife beater in the UK -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sapsis Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:47 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- The Bud was not Czeck Bud. And the Stella? We have different tastes in beer, it seems. Maybe we should compare notes this summer. I hear a rumor you might be joining us? Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 2/15/06 11:22 AM, "CB" wrote: > EEK! The Budweiser could very well have been an actual Czeck Bud, and > it would have been an excellent choice, and the Steella Artois is a > very fine beer. Although I have no argument with the G&T, why'dja pass up the Stella? ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <4359087B-DC9D-4F94-8165-6B122EAE98A3 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:47:23 -0500 > Would it be possible to e-mail me the directions to build these. This is a no-solder method a touring company showed me. Slip a larger button battery between the leads on a LED and gaff to the floor. Proper polarity matters. I have used 1.5v and 3v batteries with success. My original ones out of a lighting console battery backup worked for a long time. The 3/4" diameter (or larger) are easier to work with than the smaller watch style. ------------------------------ Subject: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:03:12 -0700 Message-ID: <5E471E1615F9B04DAD6D48FD0BC09C48021FE73C [at] email.centralaz.cac> From: "Norm Wigton" I am looking for source(s) of video clips suitable for the running scenes for the play "The Boxcar Children". The kids run in place in front of rear projected rural roads, woods, landscapes, etc. to denote motion. Any suggestions? Offline replies OK. Thanks. =20 Norm Wigton Technical Manager/Designer Pence Center for the Performing and Visual Arts Central Arizona College (520) 494-5432(Voice) (520) 494-5435(Fax) ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com Subject: RE: Spike Marks -- sort of Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:19:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20060215211923.OSZE21965.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> > A. solder LED to battery clip. > > B. insert battery. I wouldn't go quite this simple. LEDs require current limiting or they will fail prematurely (sometimes immediately). The simplest solution is a dropping resistor between the battery and LED, limiting current to whatever the maximum is for the particular LED being used, or less if you prefer a dimmer light. A considerable amount of battery power is lost in the resistor, however. A method I prefer uses a much lower resistance, along with a low-duty cycle pulse with an oscillator circuit. This way, more of the power is converted to light and the battery will last a much longer time. With an oscillator running at 30Hz (or there abouts) will create a visual strobing effect when viewed peripherally. Many performers find this faster to locate. A cheap and effective oscillator can be made with a little 555 timer IC, based on one of the reference circuits included with the datasheet for that part. Jim www.theatrewireless.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3998154b0602151322o71360963yf25aeefe176895f9 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:22:04 -0800 From: Paul Puppo Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- $Commercial Plug$ SHAMLESS COMMERCIAL PLUG Illumineering sells pre-made 9 volt battery LED Stage Markers in Red, Yellow and Green, blinking or non blinking. We also have coin cell Stage Markers that change color when you change the polarity of the battery, from Red to Green or Red to Yellow depending on the model. Please take a look at our products: http://www.Nifty-Gadgets.com After all, if they're good enough for ABT, the Joffrey Ballet, the Monte Carlo Ballet, the Royal New Zealand Ballet, and others, they might be good enough for your show! Thanks for the bandwidth, Paul Puppo ILLUMINEERING On 2/15/06, Randy B. wrote: > I saw that > someone was making there own LED on Battery type markers ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <8dd726c4427ca25a9f6136718b31563e [at] mail.tamucc.edu> From: Phil Johnson Subject: Re: boxcar children images. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:48:05 -0600 Are you wanting full motion video or stills. Your post implies motion. If you need stills you can find them on the internet. Try using a search such as google.. How are you playing back the images? video, CD photo, power point ? This will determine what type of images you will use. On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:03 PM, Norm Wigton wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > I am looking for source(s) of video clips suitable for the running > scenes for the play "The Boxcar Children". The kids run in place in > front of rear projected rural roads, woods, landscapes, etc. to denote > motion. Any suggestions? Offline replies OK. Thanks. > > Norm Wigton > Technical Manager/Designer > Pence Center for the Performing and Visual Arts > Central Arizona College > (520) 494-5432(Voice) > (520) 494-5435(Fax) > Philip Johnson Designer/Technical Director Texas A & M -Corpus Christi ------------------------------ From: "Victor W. Smith" Subject: 1950's Gas Pumps Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:56:43 -0500 Message-ID: All: We are looking for two 1950's gas pumps. I think the full rounded corners will take my carpneters longer to make than if we can find shells of pumps. Any ideas? We're in Westport, CT. Victor W. Smith ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Tracking fence Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:03:04 -0600 Message-ID: <5CF1C3D95785A143A3E33ACFD864609B038346CF [at] PEPSI.uwec.edu> From: "Zirngibl, Ryan John" =20 <<<<<< What kind of a "Fence"? Chain link? Picket? Split rail?>>>>> Chain link, sorry. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:03:06 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of In-reply-to: Message-id: <43F3B32A.9060303 [at] ithaca.edu> References: Greg Bierly wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- I have used 1.5v and 3v batteries with success. My > original ones out of a lighting console battery backup worked for a long > time. So *that's* why my console keeps losing data when I turn it off! Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College, Theatre Arts 607.274.3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ From: "Victor W. Smith" Subject: Cam-loks and turn arounds Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:03:54 -0500 Message-ID: Back to this discussion: We are in a newly renovated building. We have three 100 amp three phase company boxes - two for sound & one for lighting. The lighting box N & G cams are reveresed and the sound boxes are not - take your choice. And don't get me started on the 100 amps for lighting. Victor W. Smith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:08:40 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of In-reply-to: Message-id: <43F3B478.1070703 [at] ithaca.edu> References: Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > 1- 9V battery clip > 1- 9V battery > 1- LED > > A. solder LED to battery clip. > > B. insert battery. Electrical concerns aside (as they've been beaten to death), why do I want a spike mark that large? It's going to stand out on the deck. And I'm not drilling a hole large enough for a 9v battery everywhere a piece of furniture sits during the show. Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College, Theatre Arts 607.274.3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <207.128ba25d.3125127b [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:25:47 EST Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of In a message dated 15/02/06 21:22:12 GMT Standard Time, stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com writes: > LEDs require current limiting or they will fail prematurely (sometimes > immediately). The simplest solution is a dropping resistor between the > battery and LED, limiting current to whatever the maximum is for the > particular LED being used, or less if you prefer a dimmer light. A > considerable amount of battery power is lost in the resistor, however. None whatsoever.The power distribution is different, and that is all. A LED drawing, say 10mA , will draw the same power from any source. Proportionally more will be dissipated in the limiting resistor. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:31:08 EST Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of In a message dated 15/02/06 23:03:45 GMT Standard Time, slitterst [at] ithaca.edu writes: > I have used 1.5v and 3v batteries with success. My > > original ones out of a lighting console battery backup worked for a long > > time. I am surprised. 1.5V is not usually sufficient to make a LED work. 3V, well that depends on the internal resistance of the cell. This may limit the current enough. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:14:37 -0500 From: Phil Genera Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of Message-ID: <20060216001437.GI3542 [at] web1.vtventures.net> References: In-Reply-To: On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 02:47:23PM -0500, Greg Bierly wrote: > I have used 1.5v and 3v batteries with success. My original ones out > of a lighting console battery backup worked for a long time. The 3/4" > diameter (or larger) are easier to work with than the smaller watch > style. I just saw this creative use for the same technique: http://tinyurl.com/e28q5 Essentially, combine LEDs, button batteries, and strong magnets using tape. Throw resulting bright things at various metal things, much to the delight of passers by. The link is complete with parts lists and amusing photographs :). -- Phil Genera San Jose, CA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <009201c63293$45c27130$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" References: Subject: Re: Stage Beer Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:52:33 -0700 In 1973 Baumholder, Germany a soldier was "treed" to the top of his truck by an ornery / angry wild pig. He would have loved to hunt pork. We weren't allowed shells for our hand weapons ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Stage Beer > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 15/02/06 18:12:01 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > > > 'Jaeger' means 'Hunter'. 'Wiener' translates to 'Vienna', 'schnitzel' to > > cutlet, 'wienerschnitzel' to 'Vienna Cutlet'. If veal were used in > > 'hunter cutlet', I'd be surprised. Not even Dick Cheney would be caught > > hunting veal. > > My German is ip to that. And, who hunts pork? > > Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <009b01c63293$82edc640$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" Cc: jon [at] lagerquist.com References: Subject: Re: Indoor pond with a waterfall Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:54:15 -0700 does that mean you can't weigh a catfish? > > I have never seen one without a scale so I assume they are weighing > things all the time. > > > > > >How much do the fish weigh? > > > > Abaout as much as the water they displace, give or take... > > > Jon Lagerquist > Technical Director [at] South Coast Repertory > Costa Mesa, CA > ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Cc: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Subject: RE: spike marks Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:19:17 -0700 Message-ID: <029701c63297$01d27ca0$6400a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: I have been recommending photoluminescent markings for all stage spike marks, stairs, handles, either side of the stage about two feet from the ends of the battens up to down stage, and on platforms, edges of stage,orchestra pits, etc. I have found it great the last six years. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:32 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: spike marks For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Using that much glow tape for anything seems to be rather....well, a bit over the top. A minute or two on Google resulted in: http://tinyurl.com/8lfgj Not sure if it's the best source.....but I've seen big glow-in-the-dark number stickers on a couple occasions (though honestly, NEVER onstage--must be able to read by that much glow tape!!!) It doesn't store quite as well as a roll of dance floor, but I've seen numbers done on 1'x8' black painted maso strips that are screwed/finish nailed/taped to the deck just DS of the dance floor. Tape/stick on numbers would last longer this way (and you could put poly over them. --Sean Sean R. McCarthy seanrmc [at] earthlink.net -----Original Message----- >From: Greg Bierly > >On that note I had a dance company that used three rolls of glow tape >to number the front of the stage each year. After watching touring >shows come in I suggested they find a scrap strip of dance floor and >tape it permanently on the strip and gaff that down each year. Saves >three dance instructors about an hour a year. > >Greg Bierly >Technical Director >Hempfield High School ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:56:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Tracking fence From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > > What kind of a "Fence"? Chain link? Picket? Split rail? > > Chain link, sorry. In that case, can you let it roll up onto vertical rollers in the wings? Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ From: "JUSTIN DAVID BENNETT" Subject: RE: 1950's Gas Pumps Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:36 -0600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I did a production of Route 66 a while back. We were able to borrow one from a company that services gas pumps. They had it as office decoration in a conference room. It still had all the innards and was HEAVY. So, while I don't have a concrete lead, I would suggest calling gas pump servicing companies or the corporate offices of gas stations. Justin Bennett Technical Director / Theatre Manager St. Philip's College - Watson Fine Arts Center jbennett43 [at] mail.accd.edu (210) 531-4706 Office (210) 531-4768 Fax <<-----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Victor W. Smith We are looking for two 1950's gas pumps. >> ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43F3EFF2.4080607 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:22:26 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of References: In-Reply-To: Stephen Litterst wrote: > Electrical concerns aside (as they've been beaten to death), why do I > want a spike mark that large? It's going to stand out on the deck. And > I'm not drilling a hole large enough for a 9v battery everywhere a piece > of furniture sits during the show. They're very handy when gaffed to hard-to-see items backstage, or where glow tape doesn't work because there's no light to charge it up. They aren't a universal replacement for glow tape (although the lithium cell combined with surface-mount high-intensity LEDs may get you closer...). -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:34:33 -0500 Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Stephen Litterst wrote: >> B. insert battery. > > > Electrical concerns aside (as they've been beaten to death), why do I > want a spike mark that large? It's going to stand out on the deck. And > I'm not drilling a hole large enough for a 9v battery everywhere a piece > of furniture sits during the show. Actually we don't use them for spikes as in positioning marks in the middle of the stage for a drama. Rather, they lay on the edge of the stage to mark the centre line and quarter marks for dance. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3998154b0602151946n2e73908ayd8cb5d2a2322d414 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:46:28 -0800 From: Paul Puppo Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- $Commercial Plug$ In-Reply-To: <3998154b0602151322o71360963yf25aeefe176895f9 [at] mail.gmail.com> References: <3998154b0602151322o71360963yf25aeefe176895f9 [at] mail.gmail.com> On 2/15/06, Paul Puppo wrote: > SHAMLESS COMMERCIAL PLUG You say Shamless and I say Shameless. Never said I could spel. Paul Puppo ILLUMINEERING http://www.Nifty-Gadgets.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:48:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of From: Steve Shelley Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Yes. Sounds like everyone on this list is too young to remember the lessons learned from the abortive new york broadway verson of the musical "chess". They attempted to have all the spike marks in several colors of LED's drilled into the turntable. Then they got into the theatre and everything changed. Then the entire turntable was taken out of the theatre and returned to hudson to get redrilled and all of the LED's moved. In the end, it was all spike tape. On 2/15/06 10:22 PM, "Jim Hyslop" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Stephen Litterst wrote: >> Electrical concerns aside (as they've been beaten to death), why do I >> want a spike mark that large? It's going to stand out on the deck. And >> I'm not drilling a hole large enough for a 9v battery everywhere a piece >> of furniture sits during the show. > > They're very handy when gaffed to hard-to-see items backstage, or where > glow tape doesn't work because there's no light to charge it up. They > aren't a universal replacement for glow tape (although the lithium cell > combined with surface-mount high-intensity LEDs may get you closer...). -- Steve Shelley (212) 865-2969 home (917) 334-7625 cell (212) 749-9117 fax MrTemplate [at] Earthlink.net www.fieldtemplate.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: Re: 1950's Gas Pumps Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:39:10 -0500 >We are looking for two 1950's gas pumps. >> Does the round top of the gas pump have to be made from wood? Couldn't you find something round and metallish? Sadly, the first thing that comes to mind when I say that are bundt cake pans, which I don't think would do the trick, but, y'know, some research along those lines, the exact size you need, might lead you places. -- Matt ========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:40:12 -0900 From: Paul Guncheon Subject: Re: spike marks In-reply-to: Message-id: References: I have used 1/2" spike tape which is "gaffers" or "gaff" tape covered with clear packing tape as has already been mentioned. I however believe that the first function of spike marks is to insure the correct placement of set pieces in the time given. Various colors are used to distinguish different set pieces and there locations in different acts. Small notes can be written on them as needed, i.e. a couch may be designated by blue tape and "Act I" and "Act II" can be written on the tape. Contrasting colors can be used to facilitate the placement as needed. An au vista change may require extremely contrasting colors if the change is fast as you really don't want your stagehands wandering around looking for the marks. If the changes are done behind the curtain between acts or scenes with work lights, then colors which more closely match the paint can be used. I always strive for the best look but correct and speedy placement come first. When I paint the stage floor, usually after many rehearsals, I cover the spike marks with masking tape. I use a piece of tape longer than the spike. I lay it down starting at the beginning of the spike, fold it in the middle onto itself as I am laying it down, and press the remainder onto the rest of the spike. This leaves a flap or flag that sorts sticks up and makes the spikes easy to find after the paint job. Laters, Paul "I ran over that oriental guy with my car" said Tom flatly. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43F41866.6020200 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:15:02 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of References: In-Reply-To: Jim Hyslop wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Stephen Litterst wrote: >> Electrical concerns aside (as they've been beaten to death), why do I >> want a spike mark that large? It's going to stand out on the deck. And >> I'm not drilling a hole large enough for a 9v battery everywhere a piece >> of furniture sits during the show. > > They're very handy when gaffed to hard-to-see items backstage, or where > glow tape doesn't work because there's no light to charge it up. They > aren't a universal replacement for glow tape (although the lithium cell > combined with surface-mount high-intensity LEDs may get you closer...). > Useful tricks for charging up glow tape. Take a cheap camera strobe flash. Put the flash right up against the glow tape tight and fire it. Fills it right back up with photons in a flash. The more geeky way it to shine a UV light onto it. There is also those electroluminesent tapes, which have lots of interesting applications. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Cam-loks and turn arounds Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:10:13 -0800 That's funny in the early 80's we when to 1200 amps for lighting and 400 amps for sound 200 amps for video 60 amps for rigging mid 80's we when to 3 1200 amps for lighting 500 amps for sound. now the lighting has 3 disconnects for each 1200 amps, service sound the same and now 400 amps for video... Who knows ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor W. Smith" > > Back to this discussion: > > We are in a newly renovated building. We have three 100 amp three phase > company boxes - two for sound & one for lighting. The lighting box N & G > cams are reveresed and the sound boxes are not - take your choice. And > don't get me started on the 100 amps for lighting. > > Victor W. Smith > > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1077.208.51.52.29.1140081032.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:10:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Halation in profile spots From: "Bill Nelson" > Did you know that the final polishing stage of the lenses > and reflectors of astronomical telescopes are done by hand. > Literally by hand, using just the abrasive properties of > human skin. Since they cannot afford to polish source 4 > lenses to this level, we live with it and move on. I have ground and polished two reflector mirrors by hand. I can guarantee that skin abrasion is not used. It might have been, when people were still silvering their mirrors, but I cannot find any mention of it in my references. The traditional abrasive used for final polish and the parabolizing the mirrors is generally optical quality red jeweler's rouge. A quality mirror is corrected to within 1/8 wavelength of light, so we are working with tolerances in the micron range. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <25342720.1140082951214.JavaMail.root [at] elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 04:42:31 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Reply-To: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of Using a Surefire flashlight will do that as well....and it's useful for more than just charging glow tape. --Sean Sean R. McCarthy seanrmc [at] earthlink.net -----Original Message----- >From: Dale Farmer >Useful tricks for charging up glow tape. >Take a cheap camera strobe flash. Put the flash right >up against the glow tape tight and fire it. Fills it >right back up with photons in a flash. > > --Dale > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1107.208.51.52.29.1140083560.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:52:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games From: "Bill Nelson" >>Yeah. It is enough of a favorite to get live coverage - unfortuntely, it >>started at something like 2 AM PST. > > Which means, of course, that this is the part of the Olympics that I got > to see! The Americans beating the Norse was kinda cool... Yep. The Norse really blew their strategy on inning 6 (I think it was). The 6 point inning was apparently an automatic win. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1113.208.51.52.29.1140083917.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:58:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: We're in trouble when... From: "Bill Nelson" > True, but does Bud light count a beer? Nah! It is training beer. And Coors, whether "light" or not is training beer for those learning to drink training beer. Want a good brew? You will have to go to Victoria BC to find it. The brew is Spinnaker Stout - thick enough that you just about have to hack chunks out with a knife. And not so hop laden that you cannot taste the other flavors. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1126.208.51.52.29.1140084705.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 02:11:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of From: "Bill Nelson" > 1- 9V battery clip > 1- 9V battery > 1- LED > > A. solder LED to battery clip. > > B. insert battery. Unless that is an LED that has a built in resistor designed for 9 volt operation, the end result will be a quickly burned out LED. Bill ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Spike Marks -- sort of Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:21:32 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c632e2$c249ec20$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > > A. solder LED to battery clip. > > > > B. insert battery. > > Unless that is an LED that has a built in resistor designed > for 9 volt operation, the end result will be a quickly burned out LED. Actually, it is. The OP was discussing parts available from Radio Shack, which sells a 12V LED...but I should have been more specific. ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #693 *****************************