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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #694

 1. Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games
    by Paul Schreiner <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
 2. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
 3. Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games
    by Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
 4. Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
 5. Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
 6. Re: Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT
    by Rick Malone <rickmalone [at] sbcglobal.net>
 7. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
 8. Re: Tracking fence
    by "Zirngibl, Ryan John" <ZIRNGIRJ [at] uwec.edu>
 9. Re: Tracking fence
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
10. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org>
11. Re: 1950's Gas Pumps
    by "Ryan Knapp" <RKnapp [at] olneytheatre.org>
12. Re: Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT
    by Allison Helms <allison [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
13. barnwood substitute
    by "Frank Kern" <bugsynights [at] hotmail.com>
14. Re: barnwood substitute
    by "Ryan Knapp" <RKnapp [at] olneytheatre.org>
15. Re: barnwood substitute
    by rwhitco [at] comcast.net
16. Re: barnwood substitute
    by "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
17. Re: Tracking fence
    by Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
18. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
19. Re: barnwood substitute
    by "G. D. George" <ggeorge [at] capital.edu>
20. Re: Tracking fence
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
21. plastic sphere source
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
22. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
23. Re: We're in trouble when...
    by "G. D. George" <ggeorge [at] capital.edu>
24. Re: We're in trouble when...
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
25. Re: barnwood substituteoff topic,,
    by Richard Keith <keith.78 [at] osu.edu>
26. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
27. Re: We're in trouble when...
    by "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
28. Re: Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
29. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
30. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
31. Re: We're in trouble when...
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
32. Powering LED's
    by Joe <joe [at] dunfee.com>
33. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
34. Re: We're in trouble when...
    by "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] cableone.net>
35. Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
36. Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
37. 1950's Gas Pumps
    by Foster E Collins Jr <fcollins [at] unlnotes.unl.edu>
38. Re: Stage Beer
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
39. Re: We're in trouble when...
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
40. Re: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
41. Re: Stage Beer
    by "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] cableone.net>
42. Re: We're in trouble when...
    by "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
43. bubble machine and blacklight
    by "Ash Munro" <amunro [at] avcompany.com>
44. Re: bubble machine and blacklight
    by <kzinkl [at] sbcglobal.net>
45. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
46. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
47. Re: Tracking fence
    by Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
48. Re: Pictures
    by Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
49. Re: Pictures
    by "Michael  Banvard" <mbanvard [at] earthlink.net>
50. Cadd Drawings of NYC Venues
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
51. Re: bubble machine and blacklight
    by "John Gibilisco" <johngib [at] cox.net>
52. Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
    by Paul Masck <paul [at] masck.com>
53. Re: Powering LED's
    by Bruce Cooper <bruce [at] ledworklights.com>
54. Re: Tracking fence (NOW OT)
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
55. For sale - Control box, pump, heater and filter  for"Metamorphoses" pool
    by "David Sword" <dsword [at] scu.edu>
56. Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant
    by Paul Guncheon <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
57. Re: We're in trouble when...
    by Paul Guncheon <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>

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Message-ID: <f23a0f840602160413p1b7bde24n4d1a54ff1f214e17 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:13:06 -0500
From: Paul Schreiner <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
Cc: chip.wood [at] ieee.org (Chip)
Subject: Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games
In-Reply-To: <list-27552816 [at] prxy.net>
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> Though the Canadian women's curling team did put out--I mean,
> publish--a nude calendar this past year IIRC to raise funds and
> supporters.  Haven't seen it, though.

Here's an article (with one pic) of the calendar story...

http://tinyurl.com/bmxuw

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Message-ID: <43F475F2.3020200 [at] dreampossible.ca>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:54:10 -0500
From: Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
Organization: Dreampossible Inc.
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
References: <list-27631915 [at] prxy.net> <list-27639437 [at] prxy.net> <list-27645788 [at] prxy.net> <list-27651142 [at] prxy.net>
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Dale Farmer wrote:

> Useful tricks for charging up glow tape.
> Take a cheap camera strobe flash.  Put the flash right
> up against the glow tape tight and fire it.  Fills it
> right back up with photons in a flash.

The problem I've usually run into is not charging it up to begin with,
but having glow tape that glows long enough to last through an entire
act. The strobe would be visible to the audience.

>   There is also those electroluminesent tapes, which
> have lots of interesting applications.

Yes, I haven't tried experimenting with those yet.

-- 
Jim Hyslop


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Message-ID: <43F477AD.2040501 [at] dreampossible.ca>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:01:33 -0500
From: Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
Organization: Dreampossible Inc.
Subject: Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games
References: <list-27632687 [at] prxy.net> <list-27655463 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-27655463 [at] prxy.net>

Bill Nelson wrote:

> Yep. The Norse really blew their strategy on inning 6 (I think it was).
> The 6 point inning was apparently an automatic win.

"Inning?" This ain't baseball, it's curling. You mean "end."

And, to bring this back to stagecraft, I learned most of my curling
terminology while working on a summer stock production of "The Black
Bonspiel of Wullie MacCrummon".

-- 
Jim Hyslop


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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <2b9.4aca8d0.3125d487 [at] aol.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:13:43 EST
Subject: Re: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games


In a message dated 2/16/06 7:13:29 AM, paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com writes:

<< 
> Though the Canadian women's curling team did put out--I mean,

> publish--a nude calendar this past year IIRC to raise funds and

> supporters.  Haven't seen it, though.


Here's an article (with one pic) of the calendar story...


http://tinyurl.com/bmxuw >>

That calendar is actually of women from a variety of international curling 
teams, , not just Canada, , 

personally, , the two blonde sisters who lead the USA curling team, ,, uh 
huh, , , are THEY in a calendar ? 



best regards,

Keith Arsenault

International Arts & Entertainment Group
Tampa, FL

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Subject: RE: Opening ceremonies of the Olympic Winter Games
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:28:10 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9B4D [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> That calendar is actually of women from a variety of=20
> international curling=20
> teams, , not just Canada, ,=20

Yeah, I meant to correct myself on that one, but forgot when I posted
the link this morning.

> personally, , the two blonde sisters who lead the USA curling=20
> team, ,, uh=20
> huh, , , are THEY in a calendar ?=20

Dunno, but if I find out they are I'll be sure to let you know! :)

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Message-ID: <20060216135236.36831.qmail [at] web80505.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:52:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Rick Malone <rickmalone [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT

Thanks Frank.  I was thinking of that other East as my
wife chides me when I say go to the right and I mean
left.

Wow, someone else on this list has actually been to
Baumholder.  One of my least fond memories of Germany.

Rick Malone

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From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
Subject: RE: Spike Marks -- sort of
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:13:23 -0500
In-Reply-To: <list-27639821 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20060216141329.OGVL10262.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866>

> > A  considerable amount of battery power is lost in the 
> > resistor, however.
> 
> None whatsoever.

<SNIP>

> Proportionally more will be dissipated in 
> the limiting resistor. 

So which is it, Frank?  No power lost in the resistor, OR power will be
dissipated in the limiting resistor?  

Jim



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Subject: RE: Tracking fence
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:27:28 -0600
Message-ID: <5CF1C3D95785A143A3E33ACFD864609B038346D0 [at] PEPSI.uwec.edu>
From: "Zirngibl, Ryan John" <ZIRNGIRJ [at] uwec.edu>

=20
<<<<<<< Chain link, sorry.

    In that case, can you let it roll up onto vertical rollers in the =
wings?

Bruce>>>>>

Hmmm... Hadn't thought about that before I was envisioning a framed =
fence at first, I'll have to give that some further consideration.

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Message-ID: <43F490F4.5030604 [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:49:24 -0500
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Organization: I'm working on that....
Subject: Re: Tracking fence
References: <list-27660675 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-27660675 [at] prxy.net>

Zirngibl, Ryan John wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
>  
> <<<<<<< Chain link, sorry.
> 
>     In that case, can you let it roll up onto vertical rollers in the wings?
> 
> Bruce>>>>>
> 
> Hmmm... Hadn't thought about that before I was envisioning a framed fence at first, I'll have to give that some further consideration.
> 
Chain link fence, will open and close on a regular (well.
a strong enough to handle the weight) curtain track.
You can only get it about 6 or 8 feet width rolls though,
AFAIK.

   --Dale


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Message-ID: <001201c63309$7321b930$0600a8c0 [at] lpt>
From: <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org>
References: <list-27656851 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:37:37 -0600
Organization: Minnesota Ballet

<Actually, it is.  The OP was discussing parts available from Radio Shack,
which sells a 12V LED...but I should have been more specific>

Wow, I didn't think talking about my LED's would spark such a topic. I used 
the 3v LEDs with 2 AAA batteries and rat-shack sells a 4 AAA holder with a 
nice little power switch. No resistor, just straight to the power source, 
and a small hole drilled in one of the empty slots for the battery. The 12V 
LEDs are hard to come by at your local store.

I think Greg mentioned a dance company that used a zip cord with a wal-wart. 
I tried that first, but going with the battery packs made for a cleaner edge 
to the stage. I would never put LEDs actually on the stage for spike marks, 
they'd be more visible than glow tape.

Get the brightest LEDs you can find. When I first made them they lit the cyc 
during blackouts. A small dab of white paint fixed that. My rat-shack also 
sold pre-made flashing red LEDs for the supermarket coupon signs for only 
$3. I bought tons of them for in the wings only. After 3 years the director 
just noticed them and said that the flashing is distracting and a steady 
would be better. I think if it took him 3 years to notice it's not really 
that distracting.

Kenneth Pogin
Production Manager
Minnesota Ballet 



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Subject: RE: 1950's Gas Pumps
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:13:23 -0500
Message-ID: <071168C3EF37C34580207EB53478A0F722979C [at] stage.OTC.local>
From: "Ryan Knapp" <RKnapp [at] olneytheatre.org>

 I don't know what type of time you have, but we would make a mold out
of MDF and go to a local vacu-form company and have them make a couple
for us.  We save a lot of money making our own mold and the company
charges us for the materials used and one hour shop time.  As an
example, we built a mold in 16hrs (one carp, two days) for a set of
clear 3'-6" x 9'-4" pocket doors.  The shop charged us $220 a door pull
on the mold which we used 3/16" clear lexan ($140 of the $220).  Does
this make sense?  If you want more details email me directly, because we
have learned a few lessons.

I can also send some pics.



Ryan N. Knapp
Olney Theatre Center for the Arts
rknapp [at] olneytheatre.org
301.924.4485 *122

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Matthew
Breton
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:39 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: 1950's Gas Pumps

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>We are looking for two 1950's gas pumps.  >>

Does the round top of the gas pump have to be made from wood?  Couldn't
you find something round and metallish?  Sadly, the first thing that
comes to mind when I say that are bundt cake pans, which I don't think
would do the trick, but, y'know, some research along those lines, the
exact size you need, might lead you places.


-- Matt

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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:42:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT
From: Allison Helms <allison [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <C01A078C.307B%allison [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-27660066 [at] prxy.net>

As someone who has been on the list for a bit, but never replied, I just
wanted to say, some of my most favorite memories come from Baumholder and
the surrounding towns. Maybe you should go back and give it another try.

-- 
Allison 
Be safe, be well
SRI


> 
> Wow, someone else on this list has actually been to
> Baumholder.  One of my least fond memories of Germany.
> 
> Rick Malone



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Message-ID: <BAY101-F19EABA6E3791AE988FDF79BAFB0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Frank Kern" <bugsynights [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: barnwood substitute
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:08:19 +0000

Hey guys,

Am doing a production of The Laramie Project in which the designer has 
requested that all platform systems be lidded with actual barnwood.  After 
doing the math, I am going to need a s*#t-ton of board feet for this 
project.  Alas, the budget will not allow any big lumber purchases.  Am 
currently scowering around the NC area for sources, but am also exploring 
other options.  Any ideas?...besides painting?

Thanks again,

Frank Kern III
NC School of the Arts



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Subject: RE: barnwood substitute
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:24:38 -0500
Message-ID: <071168C3EF37C34580207EB53478A0F72297A9 [at] stage.OTC.local>
From: "Ryan Knapp" <RKnapp [at] olneytheatre.org>

I have  a sample of exterior hard board siding that you can get at
Chesapeake Plywood LLC that comes in sheets.  What is your email and I
can send you a pic.  You are going to love this stuff!!!=20


Ryan N. Knapp
Olney Theatre Center for the Arts
rknapp [at] olneytheatre.org
301.924.4485 *122

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Frank
Kern
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:08 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: barnwood substitute

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Hey guys,

Am doing a production of The Laramie Project in which the designer has
requested that all platform systems be lidded with actual barnwood.
After doing the math, I am going to need a s*#t-ton of board feet for
this project.  Alas, the budget will not allow any big lumber purchases.
Am currently scowering around the NC area for sources, but am also
exploring other options.  Any ideas?...besides painting?

Thanks again,

Frank Kern III
NC School of the Arts



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From: rwhitco [at] comcast.net
Subject: Re: barnwood substitute
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:21:11 +0000
Message-Id: <021620061621.9497.43F4A67700019525000025192200761064010C9B0708999D [at] comcast.net>


 
From: "Frank Kern" <bugsynights [at] hotmail.com>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Am doing a production of The Laramie Project in which the designer has 
> requested that all platform systems be lidded with actual barnwood.  After 
> doing the math, I am going to need a s*#t-ton of board feet for this 
> project.  

Fence companies might be able to supply old weathered fence boards.  Will the budget allow for new cedar fence pickets?  They have a nice rough hewn look to them.  Actual barnwood is becoming more valuable as a source of nice stable lumber for construction and woodworking projects.  Lots of nice doug fir beams and boards in those barns.

Randy Whitcomb
Manager/TD
Price Civic Aud.
Loveland, CO.

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Message-ID: <43F4AB24.6060407 [at] fredonia.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:41:08 -0500
From: "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Reply-To:  Rees [at] fredonia.edu
Subject: Re: barnwood substitute
References: <list-27663045 [at] prxy.net>

Are there any sawmills near you that can do rough sawn lumber?  We have 
Amish mills who cut hemlock to dimensional lumber at a reasonable price. 
  Example:  1x8x16 (actual) = $4.80 ea

If you have trouble finding such a thing, my sister-in-law works for NC 
Dept of Agriculture and could probably run some down a source for you.
Regards,
Steve Rees, TD
SUNY-Fredonia

Frank Kern wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Am doing a production of The Laramie Project in which the designer has 
> requested that all platform systems be lidded with actual barnwood.  
> After doing the math, I am going to need a s*#t-ton of board feet for 
> this project.  Alas, the budget will not allow any big lumber 
> purchases.  Am currently scowering around the NC area for sources, but 
> am also exploring other options.  Any ideas?...besides painting?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Frank Kern III
> NC School of the Arts
> 



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Message-ID: <b7318c480602160814s706d53fcn1810e138e5eac345 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:14:29 -0500
From: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tracking fence
In-Reply-To: <list-27660675 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-27660675 [at] prxy.net>

I would frame four sections of the fence with steal pipe and put them
on two long tracks.  One track would have to go all the way across the
stage and about 15 feet into the wings on both sides of the stage,
while the other track could have a break in the middle.  I would hang
these tracks on adjacent battens and marry them so that they are 4 to
6 inches apart. Use several scenery carriers on a rigid member to form
a long load trolley to support section of track. I would make and
install some type of hooks so that the pair of fences that traveled to
the middle would "grab" the second pair and pull them on and off stage
as they moved.  This would mean that only one travel line is need to
move both pairs of fences.  You will need to mount the live-end and
dead-end pulleys so that the the travel ropes are slightly upstage and
downstage of the long track (and attach to the front or back of the
carrier), instead of one line being centered under the track, but this
is easy to do.  The whole thing should be pretty easy and cheap to
rig.

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
ZFX Flying Director
Phone: 714-585-7070

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References: <list-27646323 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <268325D3-D773-4B28-A4EA-C8C743EE591E [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:11:58 -0500


> Yes. Sounds like everyone on this list is too young to remember the  
> lessons
> learned from the abortive new york broadway verson of the musical  
> "chess".

I did not hear that one.  Thanks for that tidbit.  I have been a fan  
of that show since 1985 and saw the broadway and touring version.  I  
am sorry I never saw the london production.  I am sure someday I will  
see the high school version.


Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield High School




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From: "G. D. George" <ggeorge [at] capital.edu>
Cc: Rees [at] fredonia.edu
Subject: RE: barnwood substitute
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:21:38 -0500
In-Reply-To: <list-27664745 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <MALFRONTBFdtaFcFzr800000432 [at] malfront.capital.edu>

A word about actual barn wood.  

The stuff can be nasty.  Should you wind up with a windfall, use appropriate
precautions when working with it.

There's no MSDS <grin>, but wear a mask when cutting; the wood was probably
covered with sh... I mean manure at some point.  

Watch out for old hidden nails, barbed wire, or what ever else was attached
at some point during the life of the barn. In fact, if you're using a "good"
blade in your saws, or you're going to plane or joint the wood, buy a metal
detector from Rockler or somewhere like that. 

Watch out for insects. The wood may be full of eggs just waiting for a nice
warm up to hatch.

Dry the wood well.

I've done some neat things with old barns, but do be careful!

Jerry

G. D. George
Assistant Professor and Technical Director
Capital University Theatre
Department of Communications
1 College and Main
Columbus, OH 43209

(614) 236-6498
ggeorge [at] capital.edu	

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Stephen E.
Rees
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:41 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: barnwood substitute

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Are there any sawmills near you that can do rough sawn lumber?  We have 
Amish mills who cut hemlock to dimensional lumber at a reasonable price. 
  Example:  1x8x16 (actual) = $4.80 ea

If you have trouble finding such a thing, my sister-in-law works for NC 
Dept of Agriculture and could probably run some down a source for you.
Regards,
Steve Rees, TD
SUNY-Fredonia

Frank Kern wrote:
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> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Am doing a production of The Laramie Project in which the designer has 
> requested that all platform systems be lidded with actual barnwood.  
> After doing the math, I am going to need a s*#t-ton of board feet for 
> this project.  Alas, the budget will not allow any big lumber 
> purchases.  Am currently scowering around the NC area for sources, but 
> am also exploring other options.  Any ideas?...besides painting?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Frank Kern III
> NC School of the Arts
> 






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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:35:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Tracking fence
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <C01A222E.DA5E%bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-27661191 [at] prxy.net>

>>>> Chain link, sorry.
>> 
>>> In that case, can you let it roll up onto vertical rollers in the wings?

>> Hmmm... Hadn't thought about that before I was envisioning a framed fence at
>> first, I'll have to give that some further consideration.
>> 
> Chain link fence, will open and close on a regular (well, a strong enough to
handle the weight) curtain track.
> You can only get it about 6 or 8 feet width rolls though

    I suggested the "Roller" approach as a thought that popped into my mind.
"How would I consider doing it, since I don't have two track units to play
with?"
 No guarantee it would work, more a brainstorming idea. It's sometimes
useful to consider of-the-wall concepts to think "outside the box"

    The two track approach Delbert described is likely the best approach. I
defer to his expert judgement in such matters, but keeping an open mind to
other concepts is rarely a bad thing.

    I would disagree with only one part of Delbert's suggestion:
> steal pipe
Beg for or buy it - don't use stolen steel pipe.

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House




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Message-Id: <6B496364-FDAA-4B12-AECC-31E5064CB050 [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: plastic sphere source
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:52:27 -0500

I forget who posted originally but in flipping through the Rose Brand  
Catalog yesterday I found Spheres in two halves (clear only) from  
4"-36"  ($2.60-$150 USD) page 53 2005 catalog.  Hope that isn't too  
late.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield High School




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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:57:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <C01A272B.DA63%bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-27661463 [at] prxy.net>

> Wow, I didn't think talking about my LED's would spark such a topic. I used
> the 3v LEDs with 2 AAA batteries and rat-shack sells a 4 AAA holder with a
> nice little power switch. No resistor, just straight to the power source

    This may well make sense. I have a box of 9v batteries from wireless
mikes that still work, but I wouldn't risk another performance on. It makes
more sense to me to use them, rather than buying new batteries just for the
LED markers. Use whatever works best for your own needs.

> I think Greg mentioned a dance company that used a zip cord with a wal-wart.
> I tried that first, but going with the battery packs made for a cleaner edge
> to the stage. 

    Actually, it was I that mentioned that. It was a crudely put together
thing, but it got me to thinking. (Often a dangerous thing!)

    I agree that it had a "Less than clean" look, as even though the cord
was covered with a long strip of gaff tape, it had been poorly stored and
was all twisted up. Still, it got me to thinking ...

    If you run 3v LEDs. and a 3v Wall wart, is there any reason you couldn't
do this with flat antenna wire? Certainly low profile!

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House



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From: "G. D. George" <ggeorge [at] capital.edu>
Subject: RE: We're in trouble when...
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:56:21 -0500
In-Reply-To: <list-27655610 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <MALFRONToG7mlegh0YC00000436 [at] malfront.capital.edu>

Mmmmm. Bitter beer with viscosity...  

Hey, here's a question:  just how many folks on this list are home-brewers? 

I seem to recall in the foggy recesses of memory, someone asking a question
about hobbies (or in the case of home brewers, addictions) are their
relation to technical theatre.  It was years ago, though, I think.

G. D. George
Assistant Professor and Technical Director
Capital University Theatre
Department of Communications
1 College and Main
Columbus, OH 43209

(614) 236-6498
ggeorge [at] capital.edu	


-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:59 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: We're in trouble when...

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> True, but does Bud light count a beer?

Nah! It is training beer. And Coors, whether "light" or not is training
beer for those learning to drink training beer.

Want a good brew? You will have to go to Victoria BC to find it. The brew
is Spinnaker Stout - thick enough that you just about have to hack chunks
out with a knife. And not so hop laden that you cannot taste the other
flavors.

Bill





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Subject: RE: We're in trouble when...
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:06:44 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9B50 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> Hey, here's a question:  just how many folks on this list are=20
> home-brewers?=20
>=20
> I seem to recall in the foggy recesses of memory, someone=20
> asking a question about hobbies (or in the case of home=20
> brewers, addictions) are their relation to technical theatre.=20
>  It was years ago, though, I think.

I vaguely recall that thread, too.

My name's Paul, and I'm a recovering homebrewer...

It's been a while since I've had the time to lay down a batch, but I
still have all my equipment waiting patiently in the basement for me to
clean it up and put it to good use.  Started about 12 years ago, never
made the jump to all-grain...though one of my concoctions was good
enough (or so I've been told) to inspire my oldest friend in the world
to jump in with both feet.  Since then, he's brewed more than I ever
dreamed of, and spent more on equipment than my last car was worth.  The
beer was worth more, too.  Got a fabulous bottle of mead from him when I
got married...

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Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.2.20060216130733.01f87d20 [at] pop.service.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:11:31 -0500
From: Richard Keith <keith.78 [at] osu.edu>
Subject: Re: barnwood substituteoff topic,,
In-Reply-To: <list-27663796 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-27663796 [at] prxy.net>

At 11:21 AM 2/16/2006, you wrote:
>Fence companies might be able to supply old weathered fence 
>boards.  Will the budget allow for new cedar fence pickets?  They 
>have a nice rough hewn look to them.  Actual barnwood is becoming 
>more valuable as a source of nice stable lumber for construction and 
>woodworking projects.  Lots of nice doug fir beams and boards in those barns.

Call your local lumber mills, etc, they often have slabs or low grade 
lumber that is ruff sawn and Cheap,,,,



The barn I a was going to be given was all made of butternut...and 
black walnut.  Alas one strike of Lighting took away my free wood source.

Rick Keith




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Message-Id: <s3f47e15.048 [at] AC3.nesd.k12.pa.us>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:28:27 -0500
From: "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of

I beg your pardon folks, what is a wal-wart?

Les Lind
Northeastern High School
Manchester, PA



>>> bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com 2/16/06 12:57 PM >>>
For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

> Wow, I didn't think talking about my LED's would spark such a topic.
I used
> the 3v LEDs with 2 AAA batteries and rat-shack sells a 4 AAA holder
with a
> nice little power switch. No resistor, just straight to the power
source

    This may well make sense. I have a box of 9v batteries from
wireless
mikes that still work, but I wouldn't risk another performance on. It
makes
more sense to me to use them, rather than buying new batteries just for
the
LED markers. Use whatever works best for your own needs.

> I think Greg mentioned a dance company that used a zip cord with a
wal-wart.
> I tried that first, but going with the battery packs made for a
cleaner edge
> to the stage. 

    Actually, it was I that mentioned that. It was a crudely put
together
thing, but it got me to thinking. (Often a dangerous thing!)

    I agree that it had a "Less than clean" look, as even though the
cord
was covered with a long strip of gaff tape, it had been poorly stored
and
was all twisted up. Still, it got me to thinking ...

    If you run 3v LEDs. and a 3v Wall wart, is there any reason you
couldn't
do this with flat antenna wire? Certainly low profile!

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House



------------------------------

Message-Id: <s3f47ed1.053 [at] AC3.nesd.k12.pa.us>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:31:33 -0500
From: "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
Subject: Re: We're in trouble when...

I make my own wine.  From a kit; I don't have a vineyard. Does that
count?

Les Lind
Northeastern High School
Manchester, PA



>>> ggeorge [at] capital.edu 2/16/06 12:56 PM >>>
For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Mmmmm. Bitter beer with viscosity...  

Hey, here's a question:  just how many folks on this list are
home-brewers? 

I seem to recall in the foggy recesses of memory, someone asking a
question
about hobbies (or in the case of home brewers, addictions) are their
relation to technical theatre.  It was years ago, though, I think.

G. D. George
Assistant Professor and Technical Director
Capital University Theatre
Department of Communications
1 College and Main
Columbus, OH 43209

(614) 236-6498
ggeorge [at] capital.edu	


-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:59 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: We're in trouble when...

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<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

> True, but does Bud light count a beer?

Nah! It is training beer. And Coors, whether "light" or not is
training
beer for those learning to drink training beer.

Want a good brew? You will have to go to Victoria BC to find it. The
brew
is Spinnaker Stout - thick enough that you just about have to hack
chunks
out with a knife. And not so hop laden that you cannot taste the other
flavors.

Bill





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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <62.65581c37.31262046 [at] aol.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:36:54 EST
Subject: Re: Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT

In a message dated 16/02/06 13:53:30 GMT Standard Time, 
rickmalone [at] sbcglobal.net writes:

> Thanks Frank.  I was thinking of that other East as my
>  wife chides me when I say go to the right and I mean
>  left.

I know what you mean. I do a fair bit of driving in France, where they drive 
on the other side of the road. It's no problem, since I mentally change the 
left and right turn procedures over. But, they keep their original labels in my 
head!


Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <007201c63328$d15a9200$85504898 [at] GLOBAL.SCJ.LOC>
From: "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
References: <list-27667952 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:43:02 -0600

One of those big ugly transformers that plugs in to a wall or power strip
blocking all other outlets.  Usually used to power cheap electronic devices.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I beg your pardon folks, what is a wal-wart?
>
> Les Lind
> Northeastern High School
> Manchester, PA
>
>
>
> >>> bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com 2/16/06 12:57 PM >>>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> > Wow, I didn't think talking about my LED's would spark such a topic.
> I used
> > the 3v LEDs with 2 AAA batteries and rat-shack sells a 4 AAA holder
> with a
> > nice little power switch. No resistor, just straight to the power
> source
>
>     This may well make sense. I have a box of 9v batteries from
> wireless
> mikes that still work, but I wouldn't risk another performance on. It
> makes
> more sense to me to use them, rather than buying new batteries just for
> the
> LED markers. Use whatever works best for your own needs.
>
> > I think Greg mentioned a dance company that used a zip cord with a
> wal-wart.
> > I tried that first, but going with the battery packs made for a
> cleaner edge
> > to the stage.
>
>     Actually, it was I that mentioned that. It was a crudely put
> together
> thing, but it got me to thinking. (Often a dangerous thing!)
>
>     I agree that it had a "Less than clean" look, as even though the
> cord
> was covered with a long strip of gaff tape, it had been poorly stored
> and
> was all twisted up. Still, it got me to thinking ...
>
>     If you run 3v LEDs. and a 3v Wall wart, is there any reason you
> couldn't
> do this with flat antenna wire? Certainly low profile!
>
> Bruce
> -- 
> Bruce Purdy
> Technical Director
> Smith Opera House
>
>


------------------------------

Subject: RE: Spike Marks -- sort of
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:43:16 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9B53 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> I beg your pardon folks, what is a wal-wart?

Spelled that way, it's a big box store that tends to be a blight on the
landscape in some people's opinion.

A wall wart, OTOH, is one of those small power adapters that looks like
a cube with edison prongs coming out of one side and a power cable lead
off the end.  I know you know what I'm talking about, even if you
haven't heard it referred to that way...

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060216114556.00d21258 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:45:56
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: We're in trouble when...

>True, but does Bud light count a beer?

As much as MacDonalds counts as meat.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20060216185146.00d159e8 [at] pop.paonline.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:51:46 -0500
From: Joe <joe [at] dunfee.com>
Subject: Powering LED's

There have been several mis-statements, so I think it is important to clarify;

#1 You can't just connect a LED to a battery without a correctly valued
resistor, and not fry the LED (even if both the battery and the LED are the
same voltage - LED's don't behave like normal flashlight bulbs)

#2 There are a few special LED's which ALREADY HAVE THE RESISTOR INSIDE
THEM. (perhaps those are the 12v versions refered to earlier)  Those are the
kinds which you can connect directly to a battery.

Joe Dunfee  joe [at] dunfee.com
Gordonville, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.


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Message-Id: <s3f48308.090 [at] AC3.nesd.k12.pa.us>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:49:24 -0500
From: "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of

Ohhh, those things. gotcha...

Les Lind
Northeastern High School
Manchester, PA



>>> rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com 2/16/06 1:43 PM >>>
For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

One of those big ugly transformers that plugs in to a wall or power
strip
blocking all other outlets.  Usually used to power cheap electronic
devices.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I beg your pardon folks, what is a wal-wart?
>
> Les Lind
> Northeastern High School
> Manchester, PA
>
>
>
> >>> bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com 2/16/06 12:57 PM >>>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> > Wow, I didn't think talking about my LED's would spark such a
topic.
> I used
> > the 3v LEDs with 2 AAA batteries and rat-shack sells a 4 AAA
holder
> with a
> > nice little power switch. No resistor, just straight to the power
> source
>
>     This may well make sense. I have a box of 9v batteries from
> wireless
> mikes that still work, but I wouldn't risk another performance on.
It
> makes
> more sense to me to use them, rather than buying new batteries just
for
> the
> LED markers. Use whatever works best for your own needs.
>
> > I think Greg mentioned a dance company that used a zip cord with a
> wal-wart.
> > I tried that first, but going with the battery packs made for a
> cleaner edge
> > to the stage.
>
>     Actually, it was I that mentioned that. It was a crudely put
> together
> thing, but it got me to thinking. (Often a dangerous thing!)
>
>     I agree that it had a "Less than clean" look, as even though the
> cord
> was covered with a long strip of gaff tape, it had been poorly
stored
> and
> was all twisted up. Still, it got me to thinking ...
>
>     If you run 3v LEDs. and a 3v Wall wart, is there any reason you
> couldn't
> do this with flat antenna wire? Certainly low profile!
>
> Bruce
> -- 
> Bruce Purdy
> Technical Director
> Smith Opera House
>
>


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Message-ID: <006001c6332a$e17b8750$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200>
From: "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] cableone.net>
References: <list-27668309 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: We're in trouble when...
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:57:48 -0700

Great analogy

Being born and raised in Denver The National Stock show was dominated
each year buy MacDonald's buying the Grand Champion bull, in a
braggardly sense.   they then did what they do with it.  Sort of what
Bud does with their Hops  (-;

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CB" <psyd [at] cox.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: We're in trouble when...


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> >True, but does Bud light count a beer?
>
> As much as MacDonalds counts as meat.
> Chris "Chris" Babbie
> Location Sound
> MON AZ
>
> Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
> negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060216120201.00d21258 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:02:01
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Geography and Schnitzel --Waaay OT

>Unhh, geography lesson:  Schwabia is a region
>generally East  of Bavaria.  Stuttgart is in the
>center.  

Ehm, my mom would be so embarrassed right now.   Of course you are
correcct, and I meant Bayern.  Schwabia is a bit less defined than Bavaria,
as Bavaria is a 'province', and Schwabia is more like 'the midwest'.  There
*are* schwabish in Bavaria, I'm related to some of them.  Stuttgart might
be the geographical center of Schwabia, but Illertissen and Ulm are the
cultural center if you talk to any of my kin...


> Larger that most
>gourmet pizzas and melt in your mouth.  Haven't had
>one like it since.

Had one on Munich, and one on the isle of Minau.  
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060216120618.00d21258 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:06:18
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant

>I think that some designers,especially new designers,
>have comfortable pallet zones.

Sort of along those lines, what's with hazers nowadays, for theatre?  One
tour I went out on (a musical) actually had chrome par-can like trusses
visible in an ancient egyptian setting, and most of the ones I've been on
lately use hazers so that you can see the beams.  Is this more about
justifying a rent check than theatre?  Or am I just a skweek that doesn't
get it?
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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In-Reply-To: <list-27656851 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: 1950's Gas Pumps
Message-ID: <OF7F556085.C4F2269E-ON86257117.00690E33-86257117.00696E2A [at] unl.edu>
From: Foster E Collins Jr <fcollins [at] unlnotes.unl.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:11:35 -0600

They aren't close to Connecticut, and they aren't cheap, but these guys
might help with your research. You never know what some people find
collectible!
http://www.gaspumpheaven.com/
Foster Collins
NET Television
Lincoln, NE


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060216121349.00d21258 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:13:49
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Stage Beer

>My German is ip to that. And, who hunts pork?

Pig hunters.  What do I win?  Javelina (wild pig) is a very popular game
here, and I get a bit donated to me every year.  Wild pigs used to roam the
forsts of Germany, too.  While there may not be as much pork being hunted
nowadays, I have never heard of anyone anywhere or anywhen hunting veal.
Nice call on the east/west deal, though  It went right past me too.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060216121654.00d21258 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:16:54
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: We're in trouble when...

>Maybe we should compare notes this summer.  I hear a rumor
>you might be joining us?

Well, you ain't gonna come through my neighborhood this time, but I'm not
sure I'll still have a bike either.  The rumour mill knows more than I do,
at this point, but I might ride up to meet you for a day or two through the
mountains.  I'll have to say "we'll see" til I get more of a schedule this
summer.  The first beer is on me if I make it!
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Subject: RE: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:24:12 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9B54 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> Sort of along those lines, what's with hazers nowadays, for=20
> theatre?  One tour I went out on (a musical) actually had=20
> chrome par-can like trusses visible in an ancient egyptian=20
> setting, and most of the ones I've been on lately use hazers=20
> so that you can see the beams.  Is this more about justifying=20
> a rent check than theatre?  Or am I just a skweek that doesn't get it?

That, I think, has more to do with the fact that for many audiences
these days the story plays a subservient role to the spectacle, in
(primarily) film, and theatre as well.  And with many producers wanting
theatre to become more like film (cuz that, again, is what audiences are
assumed to be expecting), well, you can follow the math.

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Message-ID: <001701c6332e$96197200$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200>
From: "Idaho Scenic and Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] cableone.net>
References: <list-27669136 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Stage Beer
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:24:20 -0700

Cheney might do with hunting veal
They don't move.
Last veal I saw on the hoof was in locks at a feedlot.

> nowadays, I have never heard of anyone anywhere or anywhen hunting
veal.
> Chris "Chris" Babbie

Robert Riddle
Will Disagree for the Sake of Discussion
Will Discuss for the Sake of Learning


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Message-ID: <43F4D3B1.8030304 [at] fredonia.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:34:09 -0500
From: "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Reply-To:  Rees [at] fredonia.edu
Subject: Re: We're in trouble when...
References: <list-27668309 [at] prxy.net> <list-27668775 [at] prxy.net>

OTOH, a small local meat purveyor with real butchers buys the 4-H 
GrandChampion from the county fair each year, usually paying the kid 
double the bid price.  Yes, the same thing happens to it but it becomes 
some very fine steak and roasts in the process.  Sort of like what 
Leinies does to hops. ;)
Steve

Idaho Scenic and Rigging wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Great analogy
> 
> Being born and raised in Denver The National Stock show was dominated
> each year buy MacDonald's buying the Grand Champion bull, in a
> braggardly sense.   they then did what they do with it.  Sort of what
> Bud does with their Hops  (-;
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "CB" <psyd [at] cox.net>
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: We're in trouble when...
> 
> 
> 
>>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
> 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> 
>>---------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>>True, but does Bud light count a beer?
>>
>>As much as MacDonalds counts as meat.
>>Chris "Chris" Babbie
>>Location Sound
>>MON AZ
>>
>>Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
>>negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...
> 



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From: "Ash Munro" <amunro [at] avcompany.com>
Subject: bubble machine and blacklight
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:46:17 -0500
Message-ID: <004a01c6333a$0be90c60$6403a8c0 [at] charlottedt>

Has anybody tried this combination to know how the bubbles look? Does =
the
light just pass on through, or actually reflect of the surface and do =
cool
hippy-trippy things? Or would it depend on the fluid used to make the
bubble?

Ash Munro
Charlotte Division Manager
A&V Company=A0




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Message-ID: <20060216211228.60380.qmail [at] web81808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:12:28 -0800 (PST)
From: <kzinkl [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: bubble machine and blacklight
In-Reply-To: <list-27671392 [at] prxy.net>

Never seen it done but I know you can buy UV bubble
juice and I have also heard that it stains.  

Ken Z

--- Ash Munro <amunro [at] avcompany.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Has anybody tried this combination to know how the
> bubbles look? Does the
> light just pass on through, or actually reflect of
> the surface and do cool
> hippy-trippy things? Or would it depend on the fluid
> used to make the
> bubble?
> 
> Ash Munro
> Charlotte Division Manager
> A&V Company 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:23:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
Message-Id: <20060216.132351.17584.92976 [at] webmail31.lax.untd.com>

Wal-warts are often utilized when the manufacturer of an electronic devi=
ce wishes to minimize a UL listing hassle by having the highest voltage =
inside the device be limited to 24 volts or less [Class B].
/s/ Richard
__________________________________
One of those big ugly transformers that plugs in to a wall or power stri=
p blocking all other outlets.  Usually used to power cheap electronic de=
vices.




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References: <list-27668211 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <2021CBDA-D84F-45D0-80F5-A270498ADDDD [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:34:48 -0500

> A wall wart, OTOH, is one of those small power adapters that looks  
> like
> a cube with edison prongs coming out of one side and a power cable  
> lead
> off the end.  I know you know what I'm talking about, even if you
> haven't heard it referred to that way...

And my other personal favorite, if the cube is in the middle of the  
cable (edison out one side and a DC power connecter on the other) is  
referred to as a "Line-Lump."  This is so you can distinguish it from  
a "Wall-Wart"

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield High School




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Message-ID: <b7318c480602161413h4c4d1da7j4d81ee588c82dca4 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:13:08 -0500
From: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tracking fence
In-Reply-To: <list-27666469 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-27661191 [at] prxy.net> <list-27666469 [at] prxy.net>

Hey Bruce,

I once had a student bring me a huge amount of rusty tin for a tin
roof I on the house for Oklamoma!.  After I had cut it up he told me
that if someone showed up asking about it, I was to say that I did not
know where it came from.  I had the idea that some farmer's barn was
missing its roof. No one ever came asking about it.

The roller idea sounded good but I am afraid that I could not get
enough tension on the chain link fencing to make it hang straight and
be look taut when it was onstage, or how to get it to roll up neatly
off stage.

 -Delbert


--
Delbert L. Hall
ZFX Flying Director
Phone: 714-585-7070

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References: <list-27576136 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <EAF7F28E-A929-4724-8163-F76400AE873D [at] appstate.edu>
From: Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
Subject: Re: Pictures
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:52:35 -0500


On Feb 13, 2006, at 4:11 PM, G. D. George wrote:
>
> I still shoot 35mm Tungsten Balanced Ektachrome slides of each  
> production.
> Good color.  Slow though.  I can push the newer "high speed" ASA  
> 160 to 320,
> but it's still hard to shoot scenes that are dimly lit without a  
> support.
> I've been thinking about trying high-speed daylight balanced film  
> with a
> filter, but havn't got that far yet.  I am afraid that anything  
> that fast
> will go very grainy.
>
> Jerry
>
> G. D. George
> Assistant Professor and Technical Director

I like Fuji NPZ 800 with an 80-B filter, on a tripod, with a cable  
release. No push, but I will always bracket.  I ask my local pro  
developer to also scan the negs at high-rez and put them on a CD,  
which gives me lots of options in both digital and analog realms.

I heartily recommend the NPZ, and your concerns about grain have been  
addressed in recent films. Try it once, you might just be hooked as  
well!

-=Greg Williams=-
Production Manager
Valborg Theatre, Appalachian State University

www.LRLR.org - 2006 ride dates July 9-18 - c'mon and join us!



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From: "Michael  Banvard" <mbanvard [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Pictures
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:06:36 -0600
Message-ID: <000001c63356$07732af0$8c00a8c0 [at] Gelert2>
In-Reply-To: <list-27675271 [at] prxy.net>

I just shot some really impressive shots for a final dress with a Sony
DSC-F707 Cybershot.  It does some good at emulating an SLR, with
appropriately adjustable settings, but it is merely an older, 5 megapixel
point-and-shoot, for the most part.  I came up with some rather nice
pictures, using the preset indoor setting for the white balance.  The 7x
analog zoom gave me a lot of options from the back of a 350 seat auditorium.
I was rather impressed.  

3 years ago, this was a $1000 camera at circuit city.  Times have caught up
and surpassed it now.

- Michael Banvard


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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: Cadd Drawings of NYC Venues
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:24:16 -0500
Message-ID: <00b201c63358$7ca11d30$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-reply-to: <list-27677604 [at] prxy.net>

There are several online libraries of CADD drawings, but I can rarely find
drawings of the venues I need, so I figure there's certainly room for one
more site.

For now, I'm just putting up NYC venues.  Eventually (soon, I hope) I'll go
national.

If anyone has drawings they'd like to contribute, I'll give appropriate
on-screen credit (and, of course, you'll gain much merit, gratitude, and
praise). Please email to me as a DXF, DWG, MCD, or VCD file.

The site's address is: http://www.jeffsalzberg.com/cadd_drawings.htm


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Message-ID: <002501c6336c$ebd49560$6400a8c0 [at] om.cox.net>
From: "John Gibilisco" <johngib [at] cox.net>
References: <list-27671392 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: bubble machine and blacklight
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:50:32 -0600


Ash,

 I 've failed with Bubbles so many times I have bubble-phobia.

 I think the key to success may be a machine that makes large UV bubbles.
I've also failed with UV Bubbles for our production of "Zombie Prom". I had
tons of UV light from 400w Nocturne fixtures. A gallon of UV bubble fluid
with two machines churning out pathetic ping pong ball sized bubbles. The
only thing I saw glowing was after the bubble burst. The splat on the floor
looked very nice. Not exactly the desired effect. If you have any success
please let me know what worked. Also would love to find or build a bubble
machine that works. The best bubble drop I have seen was a during the final
moment of some dance company's televised performance at Wolf Trap. Huge
bubbles filled the entire stage top to bottom and left to right. How did
they do that?????

John Gibilisco
Omaha Playhouse



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Message-Id: <AD29C21D-D82C-4A9D-937E-54E0023E6BA9 [at] masck.com>
From: Paul Masck <paul [at] masck.com>
Subject: Re: Spike Marks -- sort of
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:07:12 -0500


A tangent to the LEDs as spike marks is this article from MAKE: magazine

HOW TO - Make LED Throwies
"Developed by the Graffiti Research Lab, LED Throwies are an  
inexpensive way to add color to any ferromagnetic surface in your  
neighborhood. A Throwie consists of a lithium battery, a 10mm  
diffused LED and a rare-earth magnet taped together. Throw it up high  
and in quantity to impress your friends and city officials."

the article at MAKE
http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/02/ 
how_to_make_led_throwies.html

the link:
http://www.instructables.com/ex/i/7DBB34EAEDFF1028A1FC001143E7E506/? 
ALLSTEPS

They look cool. I would love to see someone spend some money and see  
if you could
cover the entire facade of one of our cast-iron buildings...

P...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Masck    paul [at] masck.com       www.masck.com
slave to the misshapen chaos of well-seeming forms
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Message-ID: <1140149581.43f54d4d4780f [at] email.ixwebhosting.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:13:01 -0600
From: Bruce Cooper <bruce [at] ledworklights.com>
Subject: Re: Powering LED's
References: <list-27668573 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-27668573 [at] prxy.net>

Welllll..... 
 
  Actually, if you're forward drop on your diode is the exactly the same or 
greater than the voltage of the battery, you don't need a dropping resistor.  
The diode is self-limiting.  Careful of your polarity though. 
 
:Bruce Cooper 
-- 
LED Worklight Systems 
847-445-2668 
http://ledworklights.com 
 
 
Quoting Joe <joe [at] dunfee.com>: 
 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/> 
> --------------------------------------------------- 
>  
> There have been several mis-statements, so I think it is important to 
> clarify; 
>  
> #1 You can't just connect a LED to a battery without a correctly valued 
> resistor, and not fry the LED (even if both the battery and the LED are the 
> same voltage - LED's don't behave like normal flashlight bulbs) 
>  
> #2 There are a few special LED's which ALREADY HAVE THE RESISTOR INSIDE 
> THEM. (perhaps those are the 12v versions refered to earlier)  Those are the 
> kinds which you can connect directly to a battery. 
>  
> Joe Dunfee  joe [at] dunfee.com 
> Gordonville, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. 
>  
>  
 



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Message-Id: <B0A7EF45-ECE4-4349-8857-D1A39CD1C038 [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Tracking fence (NOW OT)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:39:17 -0500

> After I had cut it up he told me
> that if someone showed up asking about it, I was to say that I did not
> know where it came from.  I had the idea that some farmer's barn was
> missing its roof. No one ever came asking about it.

If this was were I think it was, I don't think some of the farms  
there would have missed their roofs.  When I was younger I used to  
work the Appalachian Fair in Gray.  Don't get me wrong, I loved the  
area.  The local redneck crew was hardworking and fun.  They would  
show up for a 9am load-in after they put in a full morning in the  
tobacco field.  Would do anything to get the show up.  I'll never  
forget the midnight run to a bar with a local crew member driving his  
Trans Am and narrating the ride (with that Tennessee twang)  "Now  
we're on Possum Hollow road.  See that mailbox.  I almost hit that  
once.  See that fence,  I took out that section and then hit that  
mail box... twice."

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield High School




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Message-ID: <s3f4e637.054 [at] gwcl-21.scu.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:52:39 -0800
From: "David Sword" <dsword [at] scu.edu>
Subject: For sale - Control box, pump, heater and filter
  for"Metamorphoses" pool

I have a control box, pump, heater and filter that was used for a product=
ion of "Metamorphoses" for sale.  The system was used for about three wee=
ks.  It consists of a pump connected to a 3/4 H.P. single speed motor, a =
11KW heater, and a stand alone cartridge-type filter.  Our production use=
d a pool that was 16 feet by 12 feet by 1 foot deep.  Calculated to be 15=
00 gallons.  The hard part in keeping a pool like this warm is the large =
surface area.  The system was capable of raising the water temp. in the p=
ool from 75 degrees to 95 degrees in five hours.  System was not run duri=
ng show.  Was able to use standard pool vacuum to clean bottom of pool.  =
Control box has temp. control connected to thermostat in heater.  System =
needs 50 Amps at 240 Volts using two hots, neutral and ground.  Uses 1-1/=
2 inch plumbing.  Please contact me directly for price or with any questi=
ons.  I am also happy to answer any questions about the other technical c=
hallenges this show poses.

David Sword
Technical Director
Santa Clara University
Dept. of Theatre and Dance =20




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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:48:07 -0900
From: Paul Guncheon <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Question about what are scenic designers thinking/Rant
In-reply-to: <list-27624668 [at] prxy.net>
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References: <list-27624668 [at] prxy.net>


On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote:

> Did they not have new stuff in color a hundred years
> ago?  These designs have all looked like the designer believes that
> people all dressed and decorated in only sepias tones!  This makes no
> since to me.

Not unlike actors reading old yellowed newspapers in a period piece.

I commented years ago after viewing the many designs at USITT on the  
amazing similarity of the work.

THE leafless tree on the BARE stage with the contrasty light and  
muted palette. Interesting for maybe 5 - 10 seconds.

Laters,

Paul

"We need more air" bellowed Tom.


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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:53:31 -0900
From: Paul Guncheon <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: We're in trouble when...
In-reply-to: <list-27624668 [at] prxy.net>
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On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote:

> WHAT A BUNCHA' BEER SNOBS...LIFE IS TOO SHORT!  BETCHA IF I WAS BUYIN'
> YOU'D DRINK BUD LIGHT!

No.
>
> AND THE STONES F-IN ROCK.

Saw them twice. First time was fantastic. The second time was  
actually boring. I rate "Satisfaction" as one of the most tepid and  
dull rock songs ever to make the Top Ten list.

Laters,

Paul


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